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Corsair announced the release of its first low-profile liquid CPU cooler, the Hydro Series H5 SF, bringing the quiet and efficient benefits of liquid cooling to the smallest of PCs. Mounting to any Mini-ITX motherboard and equipped with a specially tuned low-noise blower fan, the H5 SF is able to cool even an overclocked CPU within the confines of the most compact small form factor cases.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/corsair-hydro-series-h5-sf-low-profile-liquid-cpu-cooler.html
fuck off shillbot
just fuck my form factor up f a m t b h
HOLY FUCK I DON'T CARE
>>51671895
This seems stupid.
Even in a low profile case couldn't you just mount the rad anywhere anyway?
>>51671952
Yea
>>51671895
You can't even use that PSI slot now
>>51671952
but this allows you to have an even smaller case
>>51672001
But that would have to be a case without any fan mounts at all.
Why not just make a radiator for 80mm slots.
>>51671996
Do you have problems with depth perception?
>>51671996
Have you depth perception checked.
>>51671996
If your card doesn't go above the PCI slot it will fit.
>>51672017
>>51672028
>Depth perception on a 2d image.
>>51672011
this is cheaper and still needs less space
>>51671895
Can this cool as good as the H100i?
>>51671996
It's an Asus motherboard. Thing is as useless with a smaller cooler.
>>51672035
What would he the appropriate term then? Our point was conveyed anyway.
>shitty blower, probably scream like an AMD reference card
>need holes at specific location on case to exhaust properly
>>51672071
They are meant to work with corsair cases.
>>51672040
How is it cheaper? Also what small cases support that kind of exhaust?
Second, how does it save space when it takes the same space as regular radiator. A regular closed loop can be put anywhere, including cases with a fan mount above the motherboard.
>>51671996
http://hexus.net/tech/news/cooling/88613-corsair-launches-hydro-series-h5-sf-low-profile-liquid-cpu-cooler/
what mate?
>>51672071
>need hole at specific location
what case does not have exhaust holes in the rear?
>>51672108
lower profile ones.
I dont know guys. I like the idea of it in the bulldog case.
>>51672122
that's the only place it's viable anyway.
A single fan radiator is all you need for liquid cooling and they fit in just about every single case, including mini.
Anything else is just pissing money away.
Wouldn't it make more sense to release a CLC that is modular with low profile rads th at can fit in any case?
Then make a modular version of this blower that fits in PCI slots.
>>51672122
A 980 Ti in those would make 4k gaming possible, provided it don't melt the case.
>>51672101
no water canals, etc, have you ever seen a radiator? 80$ is also a good pcie
>>51672122
looks ugly as sin
>>51672162
>Closed Loop Cooler
>Modular
Are you actually retarded?
>>51672172
actually you wont really get a proper radiator at all for 80$ right now
>>51672172
Why wouldn't it need water canals? It still needs to transfer the heat from the liquid to the rad fins.
Also the Corsair H60 is 60 bucks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181030&cm_re=corsair_h60-_-35-181-030-_-Product
>>51672176
Prefilled proprietary components with quick disconnects. No cutting your own tubes, no picking your own fittings, no filling, just buy prefilled parts that link up.
Can this fit on my GPU?
>>51672208
>Implying
H60 is 60 bucks and it does just as good as $100+ ones.
>>51672174
Good thing you'll never see it then, 95% of ITX cases don't have side panel windows.
>>51672231
More than probably but it would be fucking dumb.
>>51672240
It has a smaller rad and fan than most 100$ ones which means less cooling power.
Got my H100i for 80€ and Im pretty happy with it. I doubt that a smaller cooler would perform just as good on my OCd card.
>>51672174
it could be worse
they could be rainbow wires and transparent tubing
>>51672293
benchmarks don't lie.
buying the larger ones have barely noticable dfiference.
>>51672293
OP's cooler probably has worse ventilation than an H60, also an H60 works fine, obviously good enough to OC a 2700k to 4.8ghz
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5
>>51672035
>>Depth perception on a 2d image.
stereoscopy is only one aspect of depth perception
>>51672322
Some places report ~2°C and other report about a ~5°C to ~6°C delta between the H60 and H100i on OC'd cpus.
The larger ones are only really valuable if you're planning on overclocking. That's where the slightly larger rad space in coolers like the h100i beat out their single 120 rad counterparts.
>>51671895
from what i understand, the point of liquid coolers in general is their ability to "move" heat to a place where a larger radiator can be used
in this case i don't see the point, you're not going to get a larger heatsink in this way
this is just marketing, isn't it? (wow! liquid cooler!, or it's a liquid cooler, therefore it's better!)
>>51672420
Benchmarks don't lie
please educate yourself on liquid cooling also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2nWfIap2k
>>51672420
The point of liquid cooling is its superior heat dissipation. That cooler will perform far better than a standard air cooler occupying the same space.
>>51672322
I have an OCd 3770k (4.5Ghz, 0.08V offset) in a HUGE case with very good airflow.
I dont think that my whole PC, or even my CPU alone would sit at 62°C +/- 2°C under max load with a smaller cooler. And even if it did, one small fan wont contribute to the heat dissipation of the whole system as much as 2 120mm fans.
>>51672420
The rad is located right at the exhaust point of the case, while traditional top-down SFF coolers blow hot air all over the place, with which heat buildup may become a problem, but with this design there is no problem. It's still something even if the radiation surface isn't significantly bigger.
Wouldn't the airflow to the card in that slot be terrible? How are you supposed to cool the card?
>>51672293
got myself a seidon 120v plus for 65 aud.
53 degrees in Intel burn test, i5 2500.
ditched the original fan and installed a pair of 1300rpm fans in push/pull so it's even quieter.
>>51671895
Will it fit in my lian li pc- 05x doe
>>51672640
>>51672543
Not him but there's nothing preventing you from mounting a blower style fan on an aluminium and headpiece based design, which would probably perform similarly with less moving parts and being cheaper to manufacture.
Most CLCs are pretty close to the audiophool style bullshit though and Corsair are well known for their pandering to people with more money than sense.
>>51672780
Water is better at moving heat than air. A blower fan attached to a piece of metal the same dimensions as that cooler will emphatically NOT perform similarly. It would of course be cheaper though.
>>51672122
Is this literally the only case that has a mesh grill located where this thing exhausts?
>>51672838
>Water is better at moving heat than air.
You're ignoring the bit where the heat removal is done by air in both cases.
>A blower fan attached to a piece of metal
You'll have to excuse my use of the word headpiece in the previous post, it seems android doesn't have the word heatpipe in its dictionary by default.
Calling a heatpipe a piece of metal is disingenuous, it's quite a lot more complicated than that. You're talking about phase changes to carry the heat away, something we know is extremely efficient. CLCs generally speaking aren't exactly vastly superior to well designed heatpipe systems.
>>51673019
>You're ignoring the bit where the heat removal is done by air in both cases.
If air cooler isn't moving heat quickly enough away from the core, imagine this: 1mm from the core the temp is 95C. 2mm from the core the temp is 85C, and so on. When the heat gets to the fins, the cooling effect is only the temperature difference between the relatively cool fins and the air, while all the heat get stuck near the core.
>>51672946
Most regular towers I have seen have some kind of vent above the motherboard IO.
Of course those don't need this stupid thing.
>>51673126
i kinda want to try liquid metal cooling
like with mercury/gallium through a standard loop
>>51673184
can you not just do your own custom loop with mercury instead of water?
>>51673126
alright, but you still need to get the heat out of the liquid
how you're describing it, the liquid takes the place of the metal near the core
>>51673184
galliums' melting point of ~30c might be a bit of a problem
>>51673184
Not sure whether a pump can handle pushing liquid metal because it's heavier.
>>51673230
The liquid might be able to distribute the heat more evenly across the fins, so that cooling effect is maximized, since the cooling effect is directly proportional to (temperature of fin - temperature of air)
In the case of an air cooler, the further away from the core the metal fins are, the cooler it becomes, so cooling effect is reduced because (temperature of fin - temperature of air) is lower as it gets further away from the CPU core.
>>51673237
Maybe you could make a hand pump or something?
Also why doesn't someone just put heatpipes into a 20lb block of solid metal?
>>51671895
>>51672001
>>51672017
>>51672028
>>51672097
>>51672040
>>51672106
>>51672176
>>51672240
>>51672293
>>51672543
holy shit I didn't realize the shilling had gotten this bad again
>>51673126
That's where the heatpipes come in. You know, boiling liquid that evaporates and takes the heat with it up, cools down and dumps the heat at the top, condenses and does it all over again. Really fun stuff!
It's so efficient that it's used in the overwhelming majority of laptops available on the market. Its only major downfall is that it's very dependent on gravity.
>>51673184
IIRC the specific heat capacity of mercury isn't that great compared to water, I'm looking it up now. There are also the problems of trying to pump a denser liquid.
I could shill but I won't. Instead I want to know if I jumped the gun by purchasing a H100i. Is there any advantage the H5 SF has other than compactness?
>>51673292
We're talking about Corsair, there has always been a resident population of rabid fanboys who think they can do no wrong. Bonus points for overlapping with the idiotic CLC crowd.
>>51673315
Evaporation and condensation is slower than forcibly pumping the liquid around.
>>51673287
No it is because the liquid cooling loop pulls heat away from the CPU faster into the cooler.
Really you are just upgrading the heatpipes.
It isn't heat from the heat sink into the air that matters, it is the heat from the CPU into the heat sink that matters.
>>51671996
You idiot the real problem is if there is a ram clearance issue. Especially with those G.skill heatsinks.
>>51673369
It also takes a whole lot more energy. Go look at phase change.
>>51673315
I stand corrected on the heat capacity of mercury. While it's dismal per gramme, it's astonishing per cubic centimetre. Still, there are a host of other problems with this idea. Warm mercury generally speaking isn't a good thing.
"it is the heat from the CPU into the heat sink that matters." will affect "It isn't heat from the heat sink into the air that matters"
I'm not claiming it's not an upgraded heatpipe though. I'm claiming that it's superior cooling method to normal air coolers.
>>51673418
I don't think the point is energy efficiency here.
>>51673478
If the point is energy efficiency then adding a pump is definitely not helping.
>>51673418
mercury's thermal conductivity is shit compared to other metals, but it's still way better than water
>>51673226
i'm a (AMD) poor fag
>>51673230
>>51673237
>>51673315
i know..
need to do research on:
melting points of metals/alloys
reactions of those metals/alloys
heat transfer and capacity of such
pumps
i just started thinking about it
its all on my todo list now
will post a thread if it seems plausible after research.
>>51673492
Laptops are shit.
>>51673289
The same reason nobody makes a laptop with liquid cooling. Once you heat up the metal block or the water, you've got a warm heatsink which is pretty awful at getting rid of the energy. It'll work brilliantly for a grand total of five minutes.
>>51672174
Who cares ?
>>51673520
Add local laws to your list. The EU has some pretty heavy restrictions on the stuff and the individual countries that are part of it aren't to gone on the idea either. I can't imagine the US is any more eager to let civilians have the stuff.
No way this is as good/quiet as something like the shuriken. It seems to exist for the sake of existing.
>>51673692
You've just described the entire Corsair product line.
>>51673184
At that point you might as well use liquid metal thermal paste. But that is whole can of bullshit in itself that requires you to sand down the surface of your processor.
>>51673791
Not him but I fail to see the connection between lapping the IHS on a CPU and liquid metal cooling. Could you please clarify?
>>51673184
Holy shit just google liquid metal cooling take a look at this:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/05/danamics-liquid-metal-cpu-cooler-found-to-be-impractical-ineffe/
Doesn't work but pretty cool.
>>51673601
The same reason nobody makes a laptop with liquid cooling
But that's wrong
>>51673964
Care to correct me then? We are, of course, ignoring the Asus gx700 because under normal operation it won't use liquid cooling, the liquid cooling is a separate, xbox huge module that the laptop needs to be docked into. Under normal circumstances it'll use phase change just like every other actively cooled laptop on the planet.
Note that I said on the planet, the ThinkPads on the ISS are modified because heatpipes don't work without gravity.
>>51673791
if the thermal compound starts limiting the cooling
I would de-lid the chip have minimum materiel between them.
>>51673867
thermal compound has much lower thermal conductivity then most metals
>>51673887
cool clock ahmed
but srsly I don't want to risk loosing my arms/legs
>>51674080
>thermal compound has much lower thermal conductivity then most metals
That still doesn't explain why you want to start lapping the IHS. Especially if you're using it in place of water in a liquid cooling system, in which case whether or not it conducts heat is irrelevant, the important thing to consider is its heat capacity.
>slipping on the liquid meme
>>51673867
>>51674152
I'm referring to applying liquid metal to the IHS and not delidding the IHS and applying liquid metal underneath. Though I suppose both methods would yield the best results. The reason you need to lap is because it should allow for easier application of the liquid metal, so it doesn't slide everywhere.
>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-performance-benchmark,3616-17.html
When I was in the market for thermal paste I compared the benchmarks between thermal paste and liquid metal. Liquid metal nets the best results whether its worth the effort is a different story.
I also discovered this while googling:
>>51673887
Doesn't seem to work the best.
>>51674080
>>51674152
Quite frankly how I see it is that we've peaked to what is possible with AIO solutions in regards to temperature gains. At least to what is attemptable to the laymen. Asetek really is not gonna allow any more innovations in the way AIO rads work either so the next step would be to go custom loops.
However I hope that maybe one day we could either get AIO phase changers (I know of 1 case that already exist) or thermometric coolers (Peltier / TEC). It be nice if we could innovative solutions in these areas without the use of heavy insulation or at least minimal insulation or a mobo that comes pre-insulated for that specific purpose.
I'd buy a $1000 pre-insulated Peltier mobo. It'd be a new step for ASUS TUF series that's for sure.
>>51674267
Derp the term I was looking for was "Conformal Coating" I've seen these in some of the machines used at work.
>>51674267
>I'd buy a $1000 pre-insulated Peltier mobo
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-v10-cpu-cooler-review/
A peltier cooler built into a CPU cooler. It works pretty well and one should think they have some way of preventing condensation.
>>51674267
yeah.. soldering them together would be best,
but i don't feel safe with that.
would love to see TEC advance.
an AIO TEC or phase change system would be sweet
im a cheep fuck so no to spending that much
>>51674411
not really efficient though
>>51674455
>not really efficient though
Of course it isn't, it's a peltier cooler. As soon as you add one of those in it's an inherently inefficient system. Certainly does seem effective though.
>>51674411
Who the fuck wrote this?
>let's desiccate it to find out what's inside
>Removing the huge plastic cover that envolves the whole cooler we can have a better idea of how it really is.
>They are made of translucid black plastic
>the true differential of this cooler is the presence of one TEC (Thermo-Eletric Cooler) device
There's some gross spelling or grammar mistake in practically every sentence.
>>51674411
Cool stuff, I really hope for more advancements in these kinds of cooling systems
>>51674455
>efficiency
If your this far down the rabbit hole is efficiency really an issue? Performance is what we're after, if only they could get the reliability down it make for an easy sell
https://youtu.be/CSXJj6gzsfU
http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?id=1440
If only, if only. Though I am aware that 100% insulation is impossible due to the fact that you would need custom interfaces and custom GPUs. The whole system would quickly become proprietary.
>>51673287
Just to drive the point home to you
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Phanteks/PH-TC12DX/6.html
Why does Corsair do so well with the h100 and h110? Look at the fan speeds and noise levels.
There is no inherent advantage to a CLC, if you want to water cool do it right. If not then get a good air cooler.
>>51674720
But you're just cherry picking the temp benchmark that favour the air cooler.
>running at stock with a xbox hueg heatsink? really?
Fans rpm can actually be turned down, and I haven't seen any noise/temp benchmarks that run the fans at the same rpm. They just retardedly run everything at stock.
>>51672773
i don't think so.
>>51673601
It would take awhile to heat up 20lbs of metal wouldn't it?
Even if it didn't have fins it would still dissipate heat, and it would still be huge.
>>51675106
If I were cherrypicking I would have picked the the tc14 from the image. Look at the article, the CLCs do not perform so much better that it cannot be explained by fan speed.
Yeah, fan speed can be turned down and temperatures suffer. Still doesn't change anything, CLCs do not have an inherent advantage over well designed heatpipes.
There's a reason why the 212 was suggested universally on /g/ for a period; it's cheap and it works well to the point where spending more money is hard to justify. Unless you're really space constrained the h100 and h110 are insanely hard to justify and even then you'll have a hard time finding a case small enough to not fit the air coolers but big enough to fit the fuckhueg rads.
>>51672165
the card they show in that picture is actually a hybrid air/water cooled 980Ti
Can't wait for this itx meme to die. It got old in 2012.
I have a rvz01 unbuilt. Do I buy this corsair product?
