NVIDIA GTX 970 or AMD R9 390?
https://strawpoll.me/6167140
https://strawpoll.me/6167140
https://strawpoll.me/6167140
Say it with me.
THREE
390.
Is this even a question anymore?
>>51666364
POINT
if you want a 3.5 meme card, get the 970 lol
if you want a house fire card, get the 390 lol
guise, am I doing it right? XDD
>>51666533
FIVE
>>51666533
FIVE
>all these non-overclock fags voting 390
You can OC a fucking Gigabyte 970 G1 to run better than a 980. Can't do that shit with a 390, nigga.
>3.5gb
>>51666533
FIVE
>>51666543
>>51666550
>>51666575
GIGABYTES
>>51666568
At which point it's even more of a housefire than a 390 lel
>>51666568
yeah but 3.5gb compared to 8gb.
>>51666598
Not true in the slightest. That can be done on air, and barely go over 65 Celsius.
>>51666608
>>51666608
GDDR5
>>51666616
LinusTechTips benchmarked all current titles at 4k, and only one used higher than 3.5GB VRAM. I think it was Assassin's Creed Syndicate or something memey like that.
>>51666324
>>51666568
I know it's not the question here, but it might be economically friendlier to just get a 960 and overclock the living shit out of it. Those things clock higher than stock like there's no tomorrow and if you need more performance in a year just SLI the thing.
>>51666634
VIDEO
>>51666659
You know what linus can't do?
Benchmark things that arent released. Why would you even set yourself up for failure in the future?
Futureproof is a meme term, but when talking about a 970, its relevant and subjective
>>51666684
MEMORY
>>51666684
MEMORY!
NVidia because CUDA, of course
>>51666695
No games are going to be using more than 3.5GB of VRAM any time soon.
And, even if they suddenly did, that wouldn't top the immense overclocking performance increase the 970 has over any similar AMD card.
>>51666735
Wut.......I hope you're kidding right now.
>>51666695
>>51666735
This, and also the fact that every fucking big title always runs like shit on AMD cards.
Oh, and the fact the 970 used a fuck load less power, and has a fuck load lower temperatures.
>>51666695
>Futureproof is a meme term, but when talking about a 970, its relevant and subjective
who knew cognitive dissidence could apply in only one sentence.
>>51666735
>no games are going to use more than 256mb of ram any time soon!
>>51666756
I see someone took psychology 101, but clearly didn't pay attention during the definitions of words phase
>>51666768
Nice slippery slope.
>>51666756
Think ya quoted the wrong person little buddy
>HDD advertised as 500GB
>only 470GB can be used
>no sperging out over this
>muh .5 performance
By the time that actually becomes an issue, better cards will be out . Future proofing is a retarded concept in many areas in tech.
>let me buy two titans so I dont have to waste money later!
>>51666852
I dont think you know how bits and bytes work kiddo
>>51666852
This.
>GTAV uses like, 2.5GB on absolute MAX settings
>Fallout 4 uses even less
>MGSV uses about 2GB too
I don't like this "YOU NEED A BILLION GB OF VRAM" meme, especially when the 8GB AMD one runs worse by far.
>asking this on /g/ where there is a massive bias towards amd
>>51666879
Nice cool kid finisher. Perhaps you want teleport behind me and unleash your katana?
>>51666888
The VRAM is what i believe reserved for higher resolutions as well as for mods like in Skyrim and whatever
But in general both cards are good, get a GTX970 for fullhd-gaming
R9 390 for 1440p and some other shit
Speaking of the 970, I have a question considering SLI.
I have an MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G. Can you SLI with an MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC? I'm noticing a great deal on it right now. Pardon my lack of knowledge here, it would be my first time SLI'ing (I'm considering this because I'm about to get my new 2K 144hz 1ms refresh monitor today in the mail)
>>51666938
>not just get a 380x for 1080p gaming.
I'm thinking of getting a 390 come tax return season
Think it will still be worth it or should I just wait for the next gen of graphics cards?
>>51667002
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/technology/sli/faq#c17
:^)
>>51667032
This
>>51667219
>gtx 970 = $250
>r9 390x = $460
>same fps
lmao call me team green i guess
>>51667032
GTX970 performs a tad better on full-hd and is a tad cheaper too
now if you'd want something that would be cheaper than a 970 and better than a 380x get an R9 290
>>51667384
380x is $225
>>51666659
you're forgetting mods
>>51666324
390
>>51667219
>>51667246
>optimized for NVIDA
>literally 45% of people will be a card which will LITERALLY drop your FPS to 10%
The Jews really got to you keks huh
>>51666735
Games cache graphics and shaders. Play a game for a few hours/levels and your ram is filled, moreso when games are running 10-20gb now
Fuck both these companies.
But mostly fuck you. Person reading this post.
>>51667246
Those prices are bullshit
If you are on Linux then the 970, if on Windows the 390.
>>51666752
lurk specy threads
Most of the time they're neck and neck. My 390 idles at 31c with fans set to 25%
>>51666735
What is 4k
>>51667219
Damn. I see now that this one benchmark enforces the needless shilling going on by both logically unsupported sides of this shillgument.
g-sync > freesync
sorry boys, the 970 wins this one
>voting amd
>falling for le bigger numbers must be better meme
the 970 is:
>cheaper
>performs better
>comes with nvidia's support and technologies (nvenc, physx, cuda, etc...)
>more efficient, better OC headroom that can bring it up to the performance of 390x
i like AMD but the 970 is a steal if you can find it on sale or on b-stock
>>51669839
>2015
>paying more for same feature
>nvidia fags will defend this.
>>51666735
>no games are going to need more than 4gb of DDR3 RAM
>ever
>>51667033
Don't wait for pascal unless you are an nvidiakek
>>51666324
freesync or g-sync?
>>51669957
g-sync
>>51669965
>starting at only 385$
The other day I was browsing one of these 970 vs 390 threads on my phone and somehow accidentally set my background to that picture of the graphs that show the frametime problems with the 970 (you know the one). When I closed my browser and saw it I nearly pissed myself laughing.
>>51669998
epic blog
>>51669941
But won't AMD drop their 4xx GPU's next year?
>this thread again
>relying on 4chan for a gpu purchase
Fuck off and look at some reviews online.
>>51670786
no website is as honest as 4chan. you just have to learn how to filter out the shitposts and trolls
>>51669839
g-sync = freesync +$200 proprietary crapware
>>51670819
4chan leans so far to the AMD side it's doing a barrel roll. I won't theorize why, but it's fucking pronounced.
>>51671492
>4chan leans so far to the AMD side
/g/ leans to AMD, /v/ goes for nvidia.
Though, this whole 390 vs. 970 shit should stop. The 390 is the more powerful card, has more vram and draws more power. 970 is cooler and overclocks really well and has all the gameworks shit. (though an OC'd 390 and OC'd 970 are still really close in performance unless you win the silicon lottery).
>>51667946
not really, they sell for like 270$ without rebate sometimes
>>51666735
640k is all you need
i have a 2gb r7 370 :^)
Ordering a 390, what PSU can handle it with everything else?
>>51675650
what else?
>>51675655
Just the rest of the parts in my PC
>>51666725
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/boltzmann-initiative-2015nov16.aspx
>>51675666
which are??
>>51675650
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/7481/the-amd-radeon-r9-290-review/15
>paired with overclocked 130W CPU
>consumes less than 400W
Even a shit CX430 can power it. You can literally pick whatever you want from a reliable brand.
But keep in mind that you'll be consuming about 300W and CPUs are most efficient at 50% load, so a 600W (even a cheap one, so long as it's 80 Plus Bronze) would be ideal. But even a 500W is more than enough.
>>51669741
It's when you have 4 weapons boards
>>51666659
Im gonna call bull shit. At 1080p alone arkham knight uses over the 2gb my 7879 has at medium textures and generally low settings. Pushing it up it starts estimating 3.5+ gb vram usage
>>51671492
>4chan leans so far to the AMD
>I won't theorize why
Maybe it's because of the 3.5 GB stutterfest. Or maybe it's the gimping of their own cards from one generation ago. Or maybe it's the anti-competitive practices. Or maybe it's the lack of basic DX12 features on current-generation cards. Or the subsequent strong-arming of developers to force them not to put those features to use so Nvidia's DX12 support doesn't look as bad as it is. Or maybe it's the fact that Shitworks is being used to deliberately cripple the competitors. Or maybe it's the fact that Shitworks is doing a disservice to the whole PC gaming market and in the end everyone, even Nvidia's own users, lose. Just so they can make a quick buck.
Seriously, if Nvidia were ahead of the game due to its own merits, they would deserve all the respect for achieving that. But they do it by abusing their position anti-competitively, so I wish they would all die. Literally, I wish all executives, engineers, programmers and janitors that would at Nvidia would cease to live.
>>51676238
While I agree the "4 GB is enough for everything" argument is bullshit, arkham knight is not a good frame of reference.
They recommend 12 GB of RAM.
>>51676131
>50% load, so a 600W (even a cheap one, so long as it's 80 Plus Bronze) would be ideal. But even a 500W is more than enough.
This is true, however the difference between the efficiency of a really good PSU at 50% load and 90% load (or 20% load for that matter) is pretty minimal.
Also, most of the time you will not be at 50% load no matter what PSU you pick, because your draw at idle or trolling /g/ is going to be minuscule compared to full load/gayman load.
TL:DR; this guy is right, don't worry too much about wattage. Worry about quality.
>>51676242
Atleast NVIDIA is the way games are meant to be played and designed around.
AAA devs don't just get up in the morning and say they are going to design around some shitty AMD card.
>>51676306
>the way games are meant to stutter
ftfy
Also, developers don't design around cards from a particular brand, you idiot. They don't even design around architectures from a particular brand.
They design around an API, which >99% of the time is DirectX. That, when they aren't just licensing a third-party engine and just adding in the assets. In which case they don't even deal with APIs, unless in the rare exception in those cases where they decide to write some custom shaders.
Developers don't design games around cards at all. It's only when Nvidia waves some money at them in exchange for adding their own proprietary code that nobody knows what is and in many cases even the developer can't see, that it goes downhill for the competition.
Unless, of course, a developers decide to use an unreasonable ammount of a single resource one brand is better at that the other, which is why you end up with a heavily-tesselated ocean below the whole map that you can't even see, and hurts performance for everyone, only it hurts the competitors a bit more.
>>51676295
You're right.
I was just making the point that even a not-so-great 600W PSU would handle thta kind of system more than fine, as a budget option.
Obviously, a high-quality 400W~500W one would be preferable, for example.
So which 390 version is the best? Gigabyte is voltage locked, MSI is decent, but isn't the best at temps or overclocks and Powercolor & Sapphire are pretty much tied temp/performance wise, but Powercolor+ is $20-40 cheaper.
>>51676403
stay in denial poorfag
>>51676442
>poorfag
>AMD offers products on the same price points as Nvidia, including $650 flagships
This meme doesn't even make sense.
>>51676493
Ironically, if anything, don't AMD users spend more due to the higher TDPs?
>order 390
>in my state at 2pm today
>sitting in warehouse since then
>supposed to be "delivered by end of day 12/04"
>have it delivered to pickup center cuz niggers
>center only open from 8-10am;4pm-830pm.
>work during later hours
>center not open on weekends
>not gonna get my fucking card until Monday when I have to work again
FUCK
>>51666695
Because I can sell the card and get 50-75% the cost of the new pascal cards come out.
>>51676579
Who is going to pay 75% of the original price of a defective card when Pascal comes out?
>>51676592
Third worlders or yuropoors where a $280 card costs $400-$500.
If I sold it for $250 yuros or Brazilians would eat that shit up. I did it with my 670 back in the day and I'll do it again with my 970.
>>51676510
>higher TDP
TDP is about cooling, not power consumption, just FYI.
Also, both companies rate their TDPs by entirely different definitions, you can't even compare them directly.
But to the point, AMD cards do consume more this generation, but usually only about 30W to 60W, give or take. It would take years for the electricity difference to get to $10.
Also, the playfield is going to level with Pascal vs. Arctic Islands. The reason Nvidia has such a high efficiency at the same 28 nm process is because they made architectural decision that sacrificed compute performance to ensure higher eficiency in rendering (gaming). That's why they don't have HPC products basedon Maxwell (Tesla cards are still Kepler), Maxwell is shit at compute.
Nvidia can't keep like that, they need an architecture that is also good at compute, and Tesla needs an update. They won't be able to make those same trade-offs with Pascal.
I got my EVGA SC ACX 2.0 for $279 so fuck it
>>51676783
If you weren't drawing so much electricity, well then, you'd have a lower tdp. By gosh it's science!
I want to upgrade to a new gpu because what i have now is holding me back on AAA titles
(2x ASUS radeon hd 7770 in sli) im thinking about the r9 390x because its got 8 gb of video memory, and seems like a very good card for the price.
PC specs
Processor - amd fx 6350 3.9Ghz 6 core oc to 4.3.
Motherboard - asrock extreme 4 i think...
Ram - 8 gbs of sniper ram running at 2400Mhz.
Video cards - 2x ASUS radeon hd 7770 in sli
Storage - 160gb hd win 10 on it. 3tb hd with games and programs on that
I have a decent amount of cooling.
Thx for the help. (Pc name Red, White n Blue. Still working on it, suggestions?)
>>51676813
Are you retarded?
You can control how high you want the TDP to be at a given level of consumption by designing the chip for whatever leakage you prefer (obviously, within an ideal range). TDP is not a direct linear consequence of consumption.
>>51676783
>a 60W light bulb won't cost you $10 a year
nigga what are your electricity rates?? even if you're only paying 10 cents per kwh, 60W draw for 5hrs a day is $11 a year.
>>51676861
I pay the equivalent to about 20 cents per KWh.
>5hrs a day
>running a GPU at full power for 5 hours, every day, for an entire year
Outliers do not count. You can cut that figure to at least half for the vast majority of people.
>>51676783
>8-13 cents per kwh
>60/1000 x 5 x 365
> = $10.95
>Take years to get to $10
You mean 12 months if your rates are 10cents per kwh. Not taking into account peak/offpeak faggotry
>>51676936
Even if you cut it by half for a vast majority of people it would still take you 1 year to get to $10 at your fucking 20 cent per kwh rates retard.
>>51676936
>0.20
lel thats a terrible rate must be some old east coast major metropolitan city
>8Gb DDR5
wtf is the point radeon
>>51677188
Triple monitors, 1440p+ resolutions.
>>51677188
>2012
>2 GB HD 6970
>what's the point, Radeon, you'll never need more than 1 GB for 1080p, right guise?
>>51666324
http://strawpoll.me/6172825
>>51667219
>R9 290X removed because too good of performance for the price.
>>51677274
>tfw i have a 2 gig 7870
every single game from the second half of this year uses more than 2 gigs at more than low settings
