ITT: we design a hypothetical image board.
U18thchannel is down and pawsru is gone
Tgere needs to be a high traffic furry chan thats not all fetish shit and not all pron
>>51659328
>furry
That system is too hard for me desu
>>51659256
>tfw could literally never use that image board
How about an image board without any captchas?
Girls use this image board
>>51659389
It's a model that you could apply to more than just furshit, it's pretty much the model for 4chan. The real question is what to implement that actually improves upon the imageboard model. What multimedia and web3.0 features need to be standard?
>>51659256
>No thread last longer that 24 hours
>Every link is a no follow link
>Auto-Upload everything to imgur in order to save on bandwidth costs as a new image board.
>Have user activity itself prune old threads
>Use bootstrap and modify the css so that it's auto phone/tablet/desktop friendly
>NO VOTING SYSTEM
>>51659462
Also....
>log 100% nothing
>no IP's saved anywhere
>meanwhile auto-ban proxies/tor traffic/wget/curl traffic/and anyone using ad-blockers
>make sure admins have 100% no SJW affliation
>>51659462
>Have user activity itself prune old threads
Go on.
>Use bootstrap
Pic related
>>51659518
>log nothing
>but no tor
I'm getting mixed signals here
>auto-ban ... wget/curl traffic
Why on earth would you do that?
>>51659518
Why not just make it decentralized while we're at it?
>>51659586
>Making user activity prune old threads cuts the need for janitor/cron usage
>Log nothing && no tor, because tor is logged. People are actively logging tor traffic, it's just not safe bro.
>auto-ban wget/curl traffic because any idiot can set up a script to download your shit every 10 minutes... that just drives up bandwidth costs.
>>51659610
>decentralizing server based web code for any reason other than load balancing is a long-con.
>>51659745
Oh yeah... as well, adsense doesn't pay out for wget/curl traffic. We may be talking an image board, but an image board that hemorrhages money all the fucking time will just turn you into moot during the bad years.
>>51659794
>adsense doesn't pay out for wget/curl traffic.
>--user-agent "blahblah-firefox"
>???
>Profit
>>51659610
>decentralized
I too love getting an all expense paid trip to federal prison because someone uploaded kiddie porn and it was impossible to remove.
>>51659745
Banning based on user agents is absolutely pointless, almost every schmuck that can manage to INSTALL curl or wget can change the user agent.
>>51659794
>embedding Google code in your site
>literally selling your viewers
>>51659872
>1. users are always resourceful
>2. nothing is hack proof
Implying your cli-fu is strong doesn't mean everyone's is as well.
>>51659430
>denim dress on left
>over 35 on right
they probably both have kids and are still single. they'll give you their number even if you pulled out a pocket full of spaghetti and started eating it.
>>51659895
>cli-fu
Fuck off reddit.
8ch but not full of aspie retards
has the best layout, a good idea of user controlled boards
but its owned by an aspie retard, and is used by aspie retards, the kind of people who took gamergate as something more than a meme
>>51659907
I'd wager that most (>75%) scrapers running on 4chan weren't written by their operators. If a developer of said scraper found out having "curl" in the user agent meant a ban, they'd figure it out pretty quickly.
Has anyone started a logo?
What about administration tools and systems, could they be improved upon somehow, perhaps going beyond the standard report/delete/ban utilities?
>>51659952
I'd wager that 100% percent of IT/admins that allow 1000 hits an hour from a single IP that hit 100% every page you have up... probably shouldn't be employed.
>>51659979
>no thread updating
Surely you're not suggesting such a site should actually ban people for watching a thread?
>>51659955
"/G/ch" logo
>>51659945
>good idea of user controlled boards
that's a very old idea. usually there are 1 or 2 active boards and thousands of dead boards with cheese pizza hidden in them.
>>51660018
>watching a thread?
vs
>1000 hits an hour from a single IP that hit 100% every page you have up
I don't think you did the math here.
>>51659256
>use google phone number bs
profit
>>51660039
Every time I've heard of a scraper being used, its been either thread-restricted or topic-restricted. Nothing (sans archive bots) saves an entire board at any unreasonable repeating interval.
>>51660081
I highly recommend meeting real developers, and people that understand code.
>pic related.
>>51659256
>check thread for pics of qt average korean gfs
>people instead are discussing technology
shame on you /g/
shame on you all
>>51660177
>gomen dubs-senpai gomenasai
>>51660039
Speaking of math, let's do a little.
Let's sat the inbuilt thread watcher updates once every 10 seconds. For one thread, that's 360 requests in an hour. Watching three threads will trigger your 1000 reqs/hour heuristic.
>>51660123
I have met real developers and people that understand code. Rarely does a single person meet both requirements.
>>51660177
>average qt Korean
I got you faam.
Pic related, literally the average qt for each area.
>>51660523
>You still failed to meet the "on every page you have up" portion on this quiz....
>the understanding code joke still doesn't invalidate anything I've said.
1/10 your still not paying attention. You get an F.
>>51660568
>>You still failed to meet the "on every page you have up" portion on this quiz....
Other than archival and attack, name one reason someone would want to request every page on a board, let alone a whole image board?
For archival, chances are the operators are amenable to rate limiting. For the attack case, there are measures to be taken, but not at the application level.
For the occasional poorly written script, I'd certainly hope the traffic could be handled. If that script continues to run unchecked, treat it as an attack.
>>the understanding code joke still doesn't invalidate anything I've said.
Telling me to meet developers doesn't validate anything you've said in the first place.
>1/10 your still not paying attention. You get an F.
>your
Talk about not paying attention.
>>51660749
>Other than archival and attack, name one reason someone would want to request every page on a board, let alone a whole image board?
Because you can. Same reason why people face sub zero temps to climb a mountain that's already been climbed.
>Telling me to meet developers doesn't validate anything you've said in the first place.
Sure doesn't... you speak for 100% everyone, everywhere, at all times. Sure thing hoss. let's just ignore the code from here:
>>51660123
>your vs you're
I gave that to you because I was 99% sure you had nothing left in the tank.... this is /g/ after all. But clearly I wasn't right because you speak for everyone.... ever.
you don't seam to even have /b/ level material left at this point.
>>51660824
Give you a hint... there's more bait here.
>>51660824
>seam
You could've done better than that.
Seeing as this post would be entirely off-topic if I left it there, I had addressed scripts with disregard to courtesy in the previous post.
>>51660976
bait taken... hook, line, and sinker.
>I had addressed scripts with disregard to courtesy in the previous post.
Nope. You demanded and explanation that encompassed 100% to some non-existent standard, for why anyone would do something that you already decided no one would ever do.... specifically this:
>Other than archival and attack, name one reason someone would want to request every page on a board, let alone a whole image board?
Nothing I've ever brought up has been addressed. I give you bait, because that's all you have left. Hell you, yourself, already stated that meeting devs, coders, admins, IT specialists is pointless because you already decided you speak for everyone (multiple times I might add). I mean come on man... ignore me all you want to in order to troll, but when you start ignoring yourself that's just depressing.
>>51659462
>Auto-Upload everything to imgur in order to save on bandwidth costs as a new image board.
imgur is an insecure PoS. Don't use it.
I'd make it P2P. IPFS maybe? Or something like H@H?
>>51661084
>PoS
point of sale? point of service?
>>51661084
imgur is insecure... but it's reliable.
>>51661092
Piece of Shit
>>51659933
Seriously, this is 4chan.
It would be "cli-rinrin".
>>51659462
>Auto-Upload everything to imgur in order to save on bandwidth costs as a new image board.
you know they'd catch your bullshit and ban your ip, right?
or just make every image a penis
>>51661157
Not if you use the api and have it uploaded via JavaScript from the IP of the user.
>>51661045
>Other than archival and attack, name one reason someone would want to request every page on a board, let alone a whole image board?
>For archival, chances are the operators are amenable to rate limiting. For the attack case, there are measures to be taken, but not at the application level.
>For the occasional poorly written script, I'd certainly hope the traffic could be handled. If that script continues to run unchecked, treat it as an attack.
>still saying I didn't address your points
What do I loose from taking your bait again?
>>51659518
>ban anyone using adblockers
I weep for the future that the millenials generation is creating
>>51661254
>What do I loose from taking your bait again?
What little self respect you had.
Again, you're asking for bs explanation to encompass 100% everyone that has no standard of address, that's suppose to convince you of something you already decided will 100% never happen, for no reason other than you decided it wouldn't.
I mean holy shit... now your down to "You have to answer my BS question, and if you don't or I say your wrong... then your wrong."
>>51661260
Yup... turning a profit = bad.
Moot: 4chan is a money sink lets make canv.as
>1 year later
Moot: 4chan is a money sink and canv.as is a money sink.... I quit.
At some point in time we're gonna have to break this cycle as well.
>>51661327
>he thinks Laotian sculpting blogposts ACTUALLY AFFECT someone's opinion of them self
I've addressed the three categories of use for an imageboard:
- Normal board traffic (incl. Thread and topic scrapers), which is served as requested.
- Archival bots, which either have abide by rate limits or be classified as malicious
- Malicious traffic, which is handled elsewhere, either by IPTables, your generic WAF, or Cloudflare et al.
You're really this flustered about a rhetorical question?
Also, turning a profit isn't bad, it just simply isn't feasible. The majority of traffic that comes to the hypothetical imageboard would in all not pay for access (with exceptions, see 4Chan pass). They would also block ads, which I wholeheartedly support because of the blatant disregard for users and their preferences on the part of the advertisers. Aside from selling some other service (like ban revocations, post position, content moderation, and moderator positions), most of which are expected for free by the general image board userbase.
In short, if you want to make money, operating an image board is not a good choice for you.
>>51659256
a full /biz/ oriented site would be pretty cool, all a matter of whether or not it would be active
not too hard to design though tbqh
>>51661528
>spouts nonsensical bs
>repeats same hur dur bs question.
>calls me flustered
>In short, if you want to make money, operating an image board is not a good choice for you.
please tell that to reddit, tumblr, and imgur.
your still not paying attention, and now you've latched onto >>51661260 desperate for support....
Come on man.... your better than this. not even 10 posts ago you still had wit in you.
>>51659389
>>51659328
>not all fetish shit and not all porn
Can't exist.
Furfags are at their base, sexual deviants.
You can't separate content from fetishists.
This is why /trash/ is such a terrible idea. That board should be nuked, or at least made so that only five threads can be active at a time.
Trashcans should be small. Otherwise it's just a /dumpster/.
Saying something bad about animu is bannable.
>>51661801
Yes, a community whose connections are formed around sexual fantasy or perpetual disillusionment with their own bodies will to show sexual tendencies.
It's a wonder LGBT groups haven't run in to this problem.
>>51659256
It's 2015, nobody cares about phone numbers anymore - all you need is permission to add them on facebook
I adminned a chan. (It's still alive, I transferred it.) Here's my critique, from the perspective of a former admin:
>>51659444
I didn't have captchas. They actually didn't help as much as I thought they would.
>>51659462
Nofollow is default on most chan software, because spammers. Imgur would ban you very quickly for doing that.
>>51659518
You wouldn't be able to ban anyone. You'd get CP infestations. Not logging + Tor outproxy blocking = wtf? Ad networks are wary of user generated content especially if you have light rules you can't enforce. Adblockers are necessary security things, blocking them is scummy, don't be a dick. I didn't even run ads on my chan. Even after leaving my nest, it's still ad free. Whether that scales is a different question, but it worked more or less.
What you won't be prepared for is everyone arguing about the rules. You have no idea, people. No fucking idea. Someone tried to dox me because they were autistically arguing over it, like ... fuck? Some people have no respect, and they didn't get real dox because I've been stalked before and take precautions.
Plus I live in Britbongland. That's not a friendly place, legally, to host a chan. It moved when I stepped down.
>>51662464
>You'd get CP infestations.
You say this as if it's a bad thing.
>messages are pushed to you live using websocket technology
>no captcha
>the robot from /r9k/ on every board
>catalog view on default
>allowed filetypes: webm,zip,rar,txt,jpg,png and gif
>have it work and look like 4chan with 4chanX
>admin created boards, but you're also allowed to create your own board like in 8ch
>>51662902
>intelligent thread scrutiny and pruning system. Refuse to create a new thread on a topic that already has a thread on it.
no more dozen threads on the same topic.
>save file with original name as in 8ch
>built-in option to save all files (with or without original names) to a folder of user's choice
>keep files on-server for a certain period of time (2 hours would be ideal) after the thread is pruned.
>enforce the 6-pics necessary rule. force OP to upload 6 different files before the thread will be created.
