Daily reminder, Linux is meme OS that is only suitable for desktops. It has the worst cpu scaling and battery utilization of all time when it comes to laptops and mobile devices.
Eh no. I get the same 8 hour battery life on both windows and lunnucks.
You're doing something wrong.
>>51652016
Prove it. I have done my research, there is no solution to this problem and the devs acknowledge its existence.
>Mobile device
Found your problem :^^^^^]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
>>51652035
kek
My battery lasts for only 1 hour 47 min at 70% running windows.
>>51652103
Your battery is dying. When my first 6-cell was worn out, it gave 36 min tops. New one goes 9hrs idle, 7hrs on load.
>>51652035
Windows 8.1/10 on Samsung NP270E3E:
3 hours doing little to nothing.
Ubuntu 14.04 on same hardware:
5 hours using chrome and MPV.
Try harder rajesh.
>>51652162
9-cell? Every fucking distro I tried on my laptops has given pathetic output, the worst being Gnome 3.
>>51652181
Nigga plz, Ubuntu 15.10 barely lasts 4hrs on 100% charge with tlp and 20% brightness.
>>51652162
You manually scaled down your CPU frequency to an absolute minimum. OP screenshot is without any forced CPU scaling which is what most Linux distros come by default.
>>51652203
Yeah, 9cell T420.
I can get around 4 hours with my bloated KDE5 and default-set tlp install compared to 3 hours on Windows 10 with Battery Saver.
Windows is just shit.
>>51652237
Mine is 6-cell and that screencap is without cpu scaling. If I tweak my Windows 10 settings and adjust GPU/CPU with power saving mode, I can squeeze close to 10 hrs on a 6-cell battery.
Linux does not even offer me those options in GUI, the battery monitor is a joke.
>>51652246
If you want to lie, at least be convincing. KDE and Gnome are battery destroyers with so much bloat and background processes running.
>>51652234
Did I really, faggot?
Just admit you have no idea what the fuck you're doing.
>>51652133
same here, my laptop was constantly plugged in with the battery full, it died in one year and a half, now it only gives me about 15 minutes before giving out and shutting down my PC without a warning.
New battery still going on after two years, giving me at its best 4 hours. I still let my PC plugged when I can, but as soon as my battery is full, I remove it. This is the best way I found to keep it safe, and well, it proves effective.
>>51652280
Yes, and Windows 10 is so pure and clean of background processes.
I can probably get both to 6 hours by slimming down on services/daemons and fucking with kernel configs to lower interrupts and wakeups, but what's the point, it's a 17" laptop and it's always plugged
>>51652288
shopped
>>51652288
Your OS/DE are literally a command prompt with no visible processes or applications running. You have stripped down the entire functionality of your OS for minimalism trade off.
In the end, your distro is a useless toy that can't be used for any practical work. People who use laptops outside their basement have intensive applications to run like Office 365, CAD and Adobe software.
Your piece of shit distro can't even run those applications.
>>51652288
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/119606/why-does-linux-have-poor-battery-life-by-default-compared-to-windows
>>51652330
Haha oh wow, now you're getting desperate.
Cinnamon is just a command prompt now? Give it up panjeet.
>>51652371
Dodging the question won't work faggot. Can or can't your OS support the mainstream applications?
If you just want a shitty GUI on top of a kernel to watch anime, even ChromeOS can do that and with a lot better battery life.
So what are the merits of using your shitty OS?
>>51652371
>using 9-cell with throttled cpu scaling against 6-cell and still losing to Windows 10
LINUX IS SHIT!
S
H
I
T
Linux is just edgy manchildren shit, real professionals do work on well supported OS like Windows.
>>51652458
You've got it backwards pal, is the 6 cell that was throttled as fuck and barely beat the 9 at full speed.
>>51652419
Where did I say I exclusively used one OS? I specifically said that both perform the same to me. I'm not some retard zealot swearing allegiance to one side and calling the other shit. That's you m80.
>>51652544
>You've got it backwards pal, is the 6 cell that was throttled as fuck and barely beat the 9 at full speed.
Lol, nice try
Where do you live? In 2005? Battery life is practically the same for both nowadays if hardware has supported power-saving mode on both.
>>51652584
Except it is not. I have tested it on 3 different laptops with latest versions of Linux distros and 4.2 kernel. I honestly think that Gnome 3 devs are pants on head retarded because it only gave 2.5hr battery life with all the shenanigans.
>>51652623
Don't use gnome then? It's not exactly good anyway.
>>51652623
>I honestly think that Gnome 3 devs are [derogatory comment]
You would be correct.
But GNOME3 isn't Linux, there's other choices.
ITT
>>51651998
I get 5 hrs on a thinkpad
>>51652641
Cinnamon, Unity, Xfce, KDE, LXDE were all tested in the process. The results weren't that far off.
Unity by far had the highest battery life without cpu scaling, offering close to 4.5hrs without cpu scaling. Xfce was nearly on par with it, I had too much trouble with the compositor to test it properly.
>>51652678
>Unity by far had the highest battery life
Well, that's that.
You can continue your thread by yourself.
What is the best software to use for power managment? I am using Xubuntu , most of these shit bulit in programs are not doing anything.
>>51652698
highest compared to other DE's. Windows is in a class of its own.
>>51652707
tlp and powertop are all you need.
>>51652133
>>51652311
How do I check which battery I need?
I'm not even sure what model my laptop is.
>>51652707
tlp seems to work well with *buntu distros. I still can't seem to resolve the other big fuck up of using Linux, the excessive heating of the laptop especially on the left side of the trackpad.
Same laptop on Windows is cool throughout.
>>51652361
This
>>51651998
I get about 2 hours on Windows 8 that came with the laptop and 4 to 5 hours on lightweight Linux I installed.
It's one of the main reasons I try to use mostly Linux now.
>>51652764
Obvious lying
>>51652744
You remove your battery and take it to the electronics store. Show it to the technician and ask for a replacement? HP laptops are easy in the sense that most of them use similar model of battery and chargers.
That's what happens when half you programs are written in an interpreted language such as python (muh bindings)
>>51651998
My laptop lasts longer with Arch than it does with Windows
>>51652771
Screw that.
Why can't I just get one from Amazon.
Did my battery die from leaving it plugged in all the time?
>>51652764
0/10
>>51652779
2/10
No shit sherlock, when you have stripped away the functionality and processes of your laptop for minimal GUI and packages, you have just a skeletal remnant of an OS good enough to watch anime and shitpost on /g/.
>>51652792
Pull the battery and Google the model number on the sticker.
Windows has no working terminal and the file system is antique.
It is a pain in the ass to do any sort of web development on Windows. Their font rendering is the worst in the market.
Windows hides a lot of stuff in the registry which makes many common tasks a real pain.
Windows takes the control away from the user and replaces it with spyware.
This thread reminded me how dealing with children is a chore.
>>51652330
>Office 365, CAD and Adobe software.
Not in CS they don't, Liberal arts maybe.
>>51651998
I had 4 hours on my 11 YEARS OLD thinkpad with wifi enabled. (9-cell battery, didn't buy it new)
I didn't even tinkered laptop-mode tools.
>>51652792
Battery dies out fast for some of these reasons:
1. not draining it completely once a month at least to calibrate it properly for charge/discharge
2. running CPU/GPU intensive applications and games on battery for extended periods of time
3. constantly exposing battery to high temperatures without proper cooling tray underneath your laptop
4. using a shitty charger that is not properly regulating current or charging your laptop from a UPS source.
>>51652766
Whatever, believe it or not. It's the truth.
I do wonder whether it would have been the same if my installation wasn't as minimal as it is, though. It's not like there aren't fancy effects or as if it's barebones, I work with it daily nowadays and have no problems, but I just in general tried to use lightweight and fast apps when I installed the system (no DE, awesome as WM, spacefm as file manager, urxvt as the terminal and mostly run with urxvtc, firefox is literally the only exception), whereas I didn't have such an option with Windows 8. It probably makes up for the driver problems.
>>51652839
did you literally copy/paste that from another troll thread?
>>51652870
By CS you mean code monkeys who can be replaced by Indians? The most lucrative and rewarding jobs are those where creativity and design is implemented.
>>51652875
A typical battery has a tolerance for maximum 2 years after which it starts to wear down and gets less and less charging capacity. You are lying through your teeth.
>>51652921
If you are not in STEM you don't matter pal, simple as that.
>>51652972
b-but my graphical design degree.
>>51652921
You are doing God's work anon. Defending Microsoft from all these heretics. The best way to spend your life and you do not hesitate to take it. Mad respect. Stay frosty.
>>51652985
Bbut i'm le artist, you don't get it, i'm important, pay attention to me!
I get this with 61% left on my battery. Ubuntu 15.10 on kernel 4.3
>>51652203
> every distro
> gnome 3
/thread
>>51652972
The only people in STEM who are actually making a difference are chemists and engineers whose jobs cannot be easily stolen by Indians.
>>51652985
I have a degree in Finance and Maritime Trading.
>>51652991
I have my grudges against M$ for their past fuckups, my only purpose is to call out these freetard monkeys who keep boasting about how superior they are to Windows users.
Linux has inherent problems in the kernel which lead to shit battery life and excessive heating of laptops which is an established fact. A quick Google search would show you hundreds of such complaints.
>>51651998
I take it you haven't tried running "powertop" yet. Don't have to sacrifice anything important to get more lifetime out of your machine.
>>51653062
> installed gentoo on laptop that wouldn't last more than 2.5 hours normally
> literally lasts 5 hours
> gentoo doubles battery life time
itt: install gentoo
>>51653091
Isn't android and ChromeOS based on Gentoo?
>>51653030
>4W
Is that a laptop or a phone damn.
>>51653062
>i was only pretending to be ret.. Microsoft shill.
Linux Kernel has problems, but at leat it's not handling scollbars and font rendering.
>>51652817
Thanks anon
>>51652878
Thank you for this info
>>51653137
dell xps 13 with skylake
>>51653137
I had the same concern. My laptop consumes 8-11W on idle.
>>51653124
box cutter your jugular please
>>51653163
fuck... Dell and Skylake just raped HP in the asshole.
That is a sexy consumption.
>>51653124
>android
>gentoo
>>51653163
Impressive.
>>51653184
Thanks but I prefer inhaling helium or brain hemorrhage.
>>51653163
Windows would get half of that wattage
>>51653264
I used Windows 10 for about 2 weeks before I installed Ubuntu and it uses about the same if not more.
>>51653264
Windows also cured your mom's cancer, apparently.
>>51653264
>source my ass
>>51653163
Damm skylake is doing great on power consumption.
>>51653330
>8.22W
that is the same as my ivy bridge on Windows. Quite insulting for the next gen processor.
>>51653378
That's because everything post-SB has been insulting.
>>51653264
Until it decides to index your files, send the data it collected, install updates, restart itself etc.
Because if you use Windows you don't really have control over your computer, that's why it's not even called My Computer these days :^)
>>51653443
This is why folks women should not smoke or drink during pregnancy. This guy is clinically retarded.
>>51653443
you forgot the Windows Modules Worker, Antimalware services executable, supertech, and all the asswiping Windows needs to to in order to keep itself usable.
>I fell for the linux meme
>>51653535
Your own fault, now buy some reliable Windows OS and get yourself the battery life you deserve.
Microsoft has literally spent billions on improving battery life, Linux doesn't even give a shit
>>51653443
Dude. You chose to use proprietary software. You are forbidden to control proprietary software and you chose to make it this way.
>>51653636
Microsoft has literally spent billions on improving security, and Windows ended up doing scrollbars on kernel side.
http://breakingmalware.com/vulnerabilities/one-bit-rule-bypassing-windows-10-protections-using-single-bit/
>>51653717
Sounds like more nitpicking by the freetards ;)
>>51653682
But I use GNU/Linux, I don't even have a laptop btw.
The phone made the laptop obsolete.
Well. I get about 6h with my 1/3 dead battery using linux. Thats about the same as i got with windows when the battery was new.
On another machine, both perform roughly the same. On a third, more powerfull one, windows performs around 20% better on low load, but cause of phc about 20% better on very high cpu load.
I ditched another which run significantly longer on windows.
>>51651998
>only suitable for desktops
Which is why it runs most of the worlds servers, and a huge chunk of mobile devices(via android)?
>>51653776
I get the tone you were trying to send before. I misinterpreted you.
>>51653794
Windows Server is gaining ground tremendously fast, Linux will be evicted from both desktop and server soon
>>51652330
>intensive applications to run like Office 365
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>51653726
Metasploit is made of nitpicks senpai.
>>51651998
>linux
>suitable for desktops
KEK
>>51651998
True for gnu/linux not android/linux
>>51653808
>Windows Server is gaining ground tremendously fast
Uhhhhhh no. It's always been prominent in SMB (b/c muh active directory) but anyone who thinks "oh I need a webserver, lemme fire up a Win2012R2 server in azure and setup IIS" is a fucking moron.
>>51652878
1 is wrong for the last 2 decades, 3 is misleading, 4 is practically bullshit.
>>51652623
I must be living in some weird fantasy land then if I say my laptop manages close to 6 hrs running Gnome 3.
And it's a shit laptop that was advertised with an 8hr battery life when I bought it 3 years ago...
>>51653808
If you can't beat them...
>>51652330
>intensive applications to run like Office 365, CAD and Adobe software.
>>51651998
>It has the worst cpu scaling and battery utilization of all time when it comes to laptops and mobile devices.
I can put that aside, what is REALLY infuriating is no of my printers on Linux have ever had ink levels displayed, several times I ran dry at a bad time.
I found 1 command to check it, with warnings all over the post about how 90% of the time it doesn't work and reports nothing. Guess what it reported? Fucking nothing.
I get similar battery life on both windows 8.1 and arch on my x220t without any fiddling with settings in linux, but on windows I need to set it to power saver mode
>>51653961
Waht manufacturer?
The oldest many years back was epson which barely worked and made chewing noises on linux for 3 minutes before shitting something out and the rest were Cannon.
For the past year I've had no printer and been sticking shit on a usb and taking it to the printers instead.
I had 10 laptops and only one managed to install linux, all the rest stalled after dumping a wall of cryptic text at me
desu it's a pretty joke OS
>>51651998
>a majority of the world's servers and supercomputers run on a meme.
>>51653995
For >>51653974
Also the official drivers from cannon themselves didn't show anything either, it spat paper out faster than gutenprint drivers though.
>>51654015
HP and Brother have great support, but i don't know about others.
>>51652878
> completely draining Li-Ion batteries
Are you OK, my friend? You seem a little brain damaged.
>>51653830
you clearly have not used excel
>>51652203
gnome 3 isn't a distro you idiot.
>>51652764
not surprised,
>>51652330
>intensive applications to run like Office 365
nigga you gay
I took this picture today for another thread. I used my Thinkpad T410 with 9-cell battery for several hours when I was visiting my parents and didn't plug it in while using it. I actually got that much time out of the battery. I use Arch with Cinnamon and I have tlp installed.
I'm wondering why distros don't come with tlp by default, all DE's have some kind of basic, togglable power management but none of them are close to what tlp offers.
It actually makes me wonder what settings to enable so they aren't overwritten by tlp or vice-versa
>>51652570
>>51652458
>>51652419
>>51652330
>damage control
Sorry dude he just wrecked your shit lol.
I get like 1.5 hours in Windows with the power saving features enabled. With power saving features enabled and tweaked on Linux I get like 3.5 hours.
>>51651998
I think I interject for a while hope. In fact, has been called is a GNU Linux and GNU / Linux, and in addition to that, I was taken to be able to Linux when recently, it was called, if you can. Other free by not, was useful to system components in a shell, the components of the GNU system, it it is a utility that has been defined, there is a POSIX normal OS, GNU corelibs, namely, that of Linux is set to complete to be important, but it is its own operating system does seem to be fully operational.
Without realizing it, many computer users, please run a modified version of the GNU system every day. It is widely, in many cases, if it is not recognized through the call in a characteristic pattern of events, it has many "Linux" user and GNU system version GNU, I developed've used today and the GNU project basically I is possible.
Part of a system that uses itself, if you are using it, Linux these people actually exist therein. Linux is the kernel: the machine, allocate resources to other programs that you run the program on the system. Not only is an integral part of the operating system, it is in the kernel, it is possible to work in the context of a complete operating system itself, and you may be useful. Linux is used in combination with the GNU operating system in general. The GNU Linux based and must be added to the whole system, it has been is GNU / Linux. , So-called, it is also the distribution of the GNU / Linux is a distribution of all called "Linux" really.
>>51651998
You just haven't configured it correctly.
That's your fault, not the kernel's.
>>51652234
my battery only holds 83% of the design capacity and i think 8 hours is more realistic
>>51651998
i guess this must be system dependent. my laptop runs 8 hours straight of consistent use and can last weeks in sleep mode and its an HP Mini 110-3700.
some things i have learned, turn off wallpapers, and make sure closing the lid suspends, not sleeps. also, i am not sure if this contributed to the power saving, but i turned off lock screen during the same time which may have done something, i dont know. but linux gives me great battery life
>Linux doesn't work so well on one laptop or another because OEMs don't want to share the PM details of their boards
>FUCKING LINUX MEME OS
>Windows doesn't work so well on certain machines because shit drivers
>LOL THATS YOU'RE FAULT FOR BUYING SHIT HARDWARE
>>51652912
It wouldn't have been
X+"muh modern" graphical effects = inefficient
Also DE programmers are notoriously unskilled
Macbook pro 2010 with OS X, full bloat mode: 6 hours
With ubanto+gnome shell: 3
With ubanto+KDE: 4
With ubanto+dwm: 6 hours
>>51652330
Not only is that an X terminal emulator, but you're a colossal idiot
Do you think your favorite jobs that involve computers are the only jobs that exist or the only jobs that count? Grow the fuck up.
>PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY USE CARS SIT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND GIVE CANADIANS SPEEDING TICKETS FOR GOING A REASONABLE SPEED ON AMERICAN HIGHWAYS OK? FUCK YOUR TRUCK IT CAN'T EVEN BREAK 80 FAGGOT.
>>51652795
not him, but it is literally impossible to make linux as bloated as windows, no matter what the fuck you do. its no surprise most people have better performance, whatever your problem is it is your side only
>>51656001
Powertop
Default windows or OS X on a laptop that's not literally brand new is slow and laggy compared to linux because of that battery saving.
Linux defaults to fast because its users (developers and server admins) need fast by default. There's no magic "hardcore CPU scaling that gets in your way" toggle switch in the GUI, but that doesn't matter because linux isn't for normies, and most users don't configure scaling to be as severe as it is on say, OS X aka throttleOS, because they can't stand the thought of their computer being fucking slow.
You live in the first world. Use the outlets, luke. Everywhere you would use a laptop there is a power outlet.
You're also installing an OS for a completely different demographic and expecting it to be for normies that think it's the coolest thing ever to browse facebook on the couch
>>51653062
>The only people in STEM who are actually making a difference are chemists and engineers whose jobs cannot be easily stolen by Indians.
ebin
>>51655956
>wallpapers
i meant screensavers sorry
>linux
>battery life
>>51656083
true
99% of "professional developers" are actually making the world worse with shitty bloated proprietary software and more web apps that take control and computational efficiency away from the user like proprietary trash never could
1% are 30 year veterans that develop algorithms instead of python and C# "apps and use erlang or ocaml as their neckbeard language instead of C or lisp
>>51651998
Works on my machine
whats the best programs/settings for debian xfce and dual gpu?
