Thunderbird is kill
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/kAyVlhfEcXg
First for mourning
>>51626676
Second for evening
>>51626676
That's not at all what it's saying. This is basically an anti-systemd move: Thunderbird and Firefox are tripping over each other's dicks by sharing a repository, so Thunderbird is going to separate out from Firefox a bit.
IT'S HAPPENING
SeaMonkey is likely going to die or need restructuring as well due to the move to WebExtensions in place of XPCOM/XUL. In fact, I believe starting with nightly 41 or 42 XPCOM binary extensions are already REMOVED. ewong~ has not made any definitive statements yet though.
I've seen the future of software
The future is bleak
>>51626845
>find a way for Thunderbird to separate from Mozilla infrastructure
>We also want to make sure that Thunderbird has the right kind of legal and financial home
>Thunderbird should would thrive best by separating itself from reliance on Mozilla development systems and in some cases, Mozilla technology.
That's more than just repositories. they want to separate it from the technology stack, infrastructure and even the "legal and financial home". It's basically getting rid of the whole thing. Just cushioned in a lot of nice words.
I will now use ______ instead of Thunderbird
>>51626948
Thanks I really needed that
>mfw freetards just lost their only fully featured mail client
>>51626887
>I believe starting with nightly 41 or 42 XPCOM binary extensions are already REMOVED.
I thought this was not happening till way later next year?
Honestly Thunderbird went shit anyway it's just that there is nothing better.
>>51627042
>Removed support for binary XPCOM components in extensions, use addon SDK "system/child_process" pipe mechanism for native binaries instead
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/41.0/releasenotes/
>>51626994
at least we still have seamonkey
Opera Mail
>>51626906
Kiwi for Gmail
Isn't this a great thing? Literally with every update Firefox removes security, removes features, and changes things to be more Chrome. I don't want my email to have the same shitty features as gmail.
>>51627229
>any year
>* for Gmail
>Gmail
It's like you don't understand the purpose of an email client.
>>51627236
The problem is what happens when they lose the Mozilla bux and development stagnates because of lack of funding.
>>51627206
the mail client portion of seamonkey is literally just thunderbird though. If thunderbird dies, SeaMonkey's mail client dies alongside it.
>>51627243
>tinfoil
>help i have autism
gmasterrace. what's your problem, faggot? Gmail is fantastic ;-)
>>51627352
Just use the web interface then, if you have no concern for personal integrity. Holy fucking shit, anon.
>over the course of a few years, the sjws at mozilla ruin their browser
>they're going to ruin their mail client too and...
>"...no ma'am."
this is the great split. where the sauce is kept from the mozzarella because it's leaving a bad taste in the customers mouths.
rejoice, oh internet. for the return of the thunderbird is near, and a golden age of post-mozilla is upon us. this will literally transform thunderbird into the greatest open sores program ever.
This makes sense from the standpoint of not being the main concern of Mozilla at the moment, but why not re-wire Thunderbird at the the same time as firefox? Why can't it use the same extensions and just be a nice interface over top of whatever-the-fuck Mozilla wants to do next?
>>51627423
Unlinke Firefox's sidebar tabs consmetics shit and similar, Thunderbird has extensions (e.g. Enigmail) that are actually mission critical for some people. Rewriting them just to fit the latest NIH induced webdev trend would require massive effort and security considerations.
>>51626994
I've been using Evolution for years.
Has even less known security vulnerabilities than mutt, not even mentioning Thunderbird.
>>51627352
>he doesn't use cock
stay pleb :^)
>>51626676
>modernizing our development process and our
infrastructure
what did he mean by this
>>51626676
Heil Mozilla
>>51626895
i thought they said they were swimming in fucking cash
now they have smart tab keyloggers, forced tranvestite fluid drinking holy fuck.
what a complete and total NIGHTMARE
first they FORCE YOU TO LOVEEEE TRANVESTITES AND DRINK THEIR FLUIDS... AND LOVE IT OR BE FIRED
then - ALL GOOD ENGINEERS LEAVE
then they say WE DON'T NEED GOOGLE - WE'RE RICH
want to know how FF helped google?
It gave GOOGLE time to help learn from your mistakes, swallow up IE, then go and sweep up the remaining shares of Firefox.
Mozilla - Face it - You're blind sex fetishes and how you FORCE THEM on people is the ROOT of your psychology.
You will NOT force your CROSS DRESSING fetish on me.
>>51627538
He's getting a new computer.
>>51627538
Seconding this
>>51627566
Oh, I recognize you. You're that schizo that posted the rant thread the other day. Still going strong, I see.
>>51627538
they're deprecating lots of old things that are difficult to maintain. See the whole XUL/XPCOM thing. Guess what thunderbird uses.
>>51627575
So, what's a good alternative email client?
>>51627634
Evolution
>>51627634
mutt
gmail
>>51627634
If you don't have catagory 3 autism and use Windows try Mailbird.
>>51626676
>Thunderbird is kill
Not surprising.
SJW only use twitter, facebook and github "issues" to talk. They have no concept of the importance of e-mail and a great client for managing it.
>>51627688
>paying for a Thunderbird clone
>>51627731
actual kek
So what does this actually mean?
I never used Thunderbird but my mom uses it for her emails.
How is that going to impact her?
I'm guessing not at all...
The Windows 10 mail app is better t.b.h.i.m.o
>>51627932
>12. [...] People using Thunderbird will not see any change in the product
they use.
>>51627417
There is probably a surprising amount of truth to this.
All those resources that went into TB were problematic? Yea, sure man.
nice so people will finally move to mu4e
>>51626895
>thunderbird is moving away from mozilla
Best fucking news I have heard all day.
>>51628200
getting rid of it is their primary goal. finding a new home is only a secondary concern.
>>51627415
Gmail's web interface consumes RAM like OP consumes cocks
>2015
>still using a mail client instead of the web interface
>>51628450
Which web interface supports PGP and is trustworthy?
>inb4 copy & pasting PGP messages in and out of the web mailer
Does it means Thunderbird will stop working on my computer?
No.
It's the perfect mail software as it is, in fact I'm glad Mozkeks will stop fucking with it, adding chat and that aurora abomination.
TB is perfect on professional environment, even my old mother uses it everyday. There's no reason for it to change, even if the "support is discontinued."
>>51628512
>security flaws are found
>software needs updating
>operating systems/desktop environments/external libraries evolve
>software needs to adjust
alternative email client
http://www.opera.com/computer/mail
http://www.getmailbird.com
http://inky.com
Claws Mail is very fast and has excellent PGP support
>>51628545
opera mail is not in a much better state than thunderbird. split out product in minimal maintenance mode.
>>51628495
>trusting a website with handling your pgp
Retard.
>>51628571
>not understanding rhetorical questions
>tfw using UNIX mail and gpg
You plebs are pathetic.
>>51628525
>security flaws
niggers nigging with a computer are security flaws. this is virtually impossible on a mail client, unless you open a joint file that's called "sabrinapics.jpg.exe"
the only exploit remains retardation and should not be fixed, for natural selection reasons.
>>51627236
Yes
>>51627256
yea, people are tired of firefox's shit. After that giant expendature on women that bankrupted them there is nothing to transfer and I would hope the community steps up with new funding.
>>51627538
>>51627596
kek. I thought it was the new things that are difficult to maintain. I think he didn't want to call out that firefox is just not progressing and shoehorning new code into old practices. Python 2 for their new sync rewrite I am looking at you
>>51628613
you realize the OS upgrades around your client that does move right?
>>51628613
>mail client
>uses SSL
>certs need to be kept up to date
>security flaws in network libraries discovered every now and then
and that just one issue you didn't consider, there are others.
>>51627575
Kek
