How bad is Firefox going to get before we say enough is enough?
Just use pale moon or an older version instead of mindlessly updating their bloatware
Still is more memory efficient than Chrome.
>>51599810
Kinda has to be since the official builds were stuck at 32 bit on Windows for so long. Out-of-memory was still probably the most common cause of crashes.
It also got sluggish as hell as it approached 2 GB because of the constant panic GC trying to avoid the crash.
i installed pale moon after seeing that last thread
everything is going to shit
i just want something that werks without probing my asshole and synthesising my dna
>>51599896
what I want to know is why that GC never seemed to do any goddamned good. I could close every tab but one and it would still sit there banging it's head on the 2GB wall. Why isn't it smart enough to just dump everything that's associated with a particular tab on the floor when that tab is closed or unloaded?
>>51599961
It did seem to get faster even if the OS-reported memory usage didn't drop. Probably just didn't bother shrinking its internal memory pool(s) since they'd just get filled again very soon.
It's the best thing we got as an upstream project for an open source Web browser. Iceweasel and IceCat are great, and they still get their code from Mozilla.
Up to the point when there's a better alternative.
>How bad is Firefox going to get before we say enough is enough?
i stopped in the first half of the year
jump off the bandwagon with us already
it just ain't worth it anymore
I only use it because the font rendering is better than other Windows browsers.
I'm sick of it but there really isn't anything better still. It's either shit or shittier shit.
>>51599788
>>51599918
PALE MOON SHILLS LITERALLY CANNOT GET ABOVE 720p IN YOUTUBE HTML5 PLAYER
KEK
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9919&p=68039&hilit=720p#p68039
>>51600336
Only reason I still use it is Rikaisama. I'll be able to drop it in 10 or so years when I can read things like news articles, BBS and chan posts without having to resort to a dictionary much.
You're free to use whatever you want OP but there's no better alternative in my opinion
What the fuck is this meme? Can somebody explain to me why exactly Firefox is "going to shit"? Hint: the SJW argument is /pol/-tier retarded
>>51600368
>not watching youtube videos on your favorite media player
>not downloading them
ayy #lmao @u
>>51600510
couple of 17 year olds off school for the Thanksgiving weekend
>>51600510
It uses telemetry even when you explicity uncheck the "firefox health report" box. Somone /g/entoomen has the source.
Where is this sudden anti-Firefox crusade coming from?
I don't like Firefox itself per se, but I have been a Pale Moon user for years. I have to support Firefox to some degree so its derivatives can continue to exist. (Although I suppose they could be independently maintained if FF development were to cease at some point)
If you don't like PM for some reason, SeaMonkey is still in active development.
>>51600690
weird descisions made recently, UI, SJW shit, extension limitations and pocket integrations.
I still use it, but I am glad that spinoffs exist.
I generally dont agree with neckbeard whining, but this is worrying to me.
If firefox go down this road any longer it will cease to exist, and the only browsers will be chrome and whatever IE is nowadays.
>>51600690
I think it's just paid shills from third world shitholes like india, they usually suggest people use vivaldi or some other garbage.
>>51600737
>herp derp
Right. Gotcha. Just another thinly veiled /pol/ thread to scapegoat the evil SJWs / Zionist-occupied government.
>>51600820
it was a mild point, but one I felt needed included.
All in all it was Pocket integration that made me feel it was a worrying trend. I still use firefox, and will probably continue to do so. Its just a weird trend that is a decline.
I dont think its /pol/ shit to be weirded out by Eich being hounded out.
>forcing developers to go through Mozilla's shitty and pointless review process to install addons
>dropping FTP browsing
>cloning Chrome's plugin system
>Forcing Australis UI and removing complete theme support
>Actively holding back the development community with stupid shit like "you shouldn't use .bro as your file extension because it's sexist"
>Forcing Telemetry even if the option is disabled
Just move over to Pale Moon/Midori at this point those devs have worked plenty hard on their browsers
>>51600893
I also forget to mention forced features that have no place in a browser by default like Hello and Pocket, but I'm sure other anons can point it out just as well.
>>51600913
didnt mind Hello because at least it was Open. Firefox is good when its pushing that kind of shit, its how they saved the web after all.
Pocket addition was weird
>>51600893
There was a technical reason for not using .bro also though, .br uses fewer bytes. You're not going to convince anyone to change that no matter how assmad you are about it.
>>51601053
If that were the actual reason given by Mozilla devs, then nobody would complain.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366559#c146
As you can see here though.
>>51600510
Tab groups a kill = to me a dealbreaker.
Also themes also a kill apparently.
So yeah firefox = chrome.
>>51601132
>Tab groups a kill
whut? Seem to be still there.
were they more functional in the past? I've only started using them
>>51601110
This guy tried but he fucked up
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366559#c169
>>51601110
>Brotli is a derogatory term for bread in Switzerland
my_sides.png.tiff.exe
>>51601159
They're going to be removed in a future version
>>51600368
>not using mpv to stream youtube inside browser
ugh...
>doesn't have full VP9 support
into the trash it goes
>>51600893
>prefers functionality and aesthetics > security
Bitch please https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/
>>51601190
it's actually a diminutive
I just wish the guy who makes Lightning Browser had the time to make a full desktop version. Its literally perfect on Android.
Firefox has been trying to become Chrome for years, in spite of the fact that the only reason Firefox became popular was due to them doing their own thing.
Once Chrome came out and was packaged into everything, and has been bundled in with motherboard software and various utilities, it became huge on the backs of the people who don't know how to uncheck optional software offers, or are just interested in trying something new.
Apparently some of the newer people to come in to Mozilla saw how popular Chrome was and decided to try to make Firefox more like Chrome, completely ignoring how Firefox got big in the first place. The biggest example of this being that FF now advances the version number of Firefox every month and a half regardless of what changes have been made, to be more in line with what Chrome does.
Now, as the Firefox user base continues to shrink, these same people are digging themselves even further down the same hole by removing the addon functionality that made Firefox what it was in favor of copying Chrome yet again.
When they replace addons with that web extension shit.
Where am I supposed to go?
>Chromenet
>Appleshit
>Edge lolno
>Firefox spinoff "this is time is completely different guise!"
Might as well use w3m
Question: if Mozilla offered a premium version of Firefox with all their shitty ideas removed, would you pay for it?
>>51601211
>he fell for the VP9 meme
>>51601211
You are a fucking retard
>>51600893
>>dropping FTP browsing
VERFIED WONTFIX
>>51601206
how2do
>>51601380
5$/Year, Yes.
>>51599810
Not if you use that memory inefficiently. With chrome at least if one of the tabs dies it can't take the browser with it.
>>51601462
how am I a retard? Mine's not supported. FF 43.
>>51601211
>>51601462
yup, has been like this since what v28 or so?
>>51601529
mozplugger
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mpv#Use_as_a_browser_plugin
or openwith plugin
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Browser_plugins#Video_players_workarounds
But that will spawn mpv on new window
>windows 10 is botnet central
>OS X went full Fisher Price when jobs died
>linux has [spoiler]no gaems
>all major browsers are botnet or in a race to drive themselves into the ground as fast as possible
>Moore's law has been broken
>Intel has zero competition until 2017 when consumer zen chips hit
>TPP
Wake me up
>>51601567
media.mediasource.webm.enabled;true
>>51601610
I thought consumer zen was going to be the end of 2016?
>>51601608
>mozplugger
Oh, by the way, Mozilla will also drop plugin support (as will Chrome).
>>51601626
why isn't it enabled by default?
>>51601610
I wish there was a browser that didn't suck. Fuck.
>>51601718
Still considered as "experimental" hence why about:config comes handy for nerds such as us.
>>51601704
Ackhually, they will drop the XUL framework.
Please improve your reading comprehension skill next time
>>51601832
He's referring to NPAPI plugins, retard.
>>51600368
I never had problems with palemoon getting 1080p videos on youtube, though.
>>51601832
Correct, I develop a Firefox plugin made with the SDK and the upcoming updates don't even affect me.
I don't agree with all of Mozilla's actions of course but it works and it's still free-er than Chrome. And since I actually care about plugin support I'm not going to start using a meme browser.
>>51601907
>DRM
>hello
>telemetry
>ads
>still freer than chrome
Not anymore it's not.
>>51600942
The way firefox saved the web was by providing a browser that was about function over form. hello is form over function.
>>51600913
chrome has hello too
>>51601610
It's middle of the decade syndrome. Everything seems to slow down between the 20*3-20*7 years. We saw it 10 years ago when XP stagnated everything.
>10 years ago
>XP was the major consumer OS
>Original Project Longhorn scrapped because WinFS killed the XP kernel to death
>OEMs have literally no incentive to produce anything beyond basic XP requirements 3 years after release even though the tech existed
>Most homes were sold machines with 512 MB RAM when 2 GB was entirely feasible
>A lot of web servers still used IIS, so no Linux at all
>Moore's Law not broken, but not helping because stagnant software
>AMD keked everyone with low quality chips
>OS X was still largely based on PPC, so compatibility was an issue
>Google Docs too young to be viable
>Malware everywhere
>Everything internet related was tightly coupled to Internet Explorer 6
>MySpace was a joke
>UX Design looked too corporate
>Phones were built tough but had shit features
Fast forward 5 years:
>2010
>Windows 7 released
>OS X much better due to Intel support
>iPhone spurs software development
>UX design was good for the time
>Startups everywhere experimenting with cool stuff
>Moore's Law not broken, OEMs actually building faster machines
>Google Docs matured
>AMD dying
>Linux servers replacing old IIS/Novell servers
>Active cleansing of IE 6 from the world, IE 9 was tolerable
>Firefox stable, Chrome new and lean
>Facebook is alright
Now to today:
>Windows 7 is literally the new XP
>Win 8 is shit, Win 10 too young
>OS X is shit because Tim Cock won't say no to his idiot investors
>linux useable on servers only because people threw money at it
>Everything tightly coupled to Google Chrome
>Firefox bloated as fuck
>Edge is rebranded IE because Microsoft is desperate
>Moore's Law possibly broken
>OEMs using cheap parts from China since no AMD
>UX Design looks too corporate again
>Startups are dramatically cut back because fear of second bust
>Facebook is a joke
See the pattern?
>>51602092
>>51601610
Oh, and more today:
>phones full of features but built like cheap shit
>spyware willingly installed if it gives people money
>>51599762
As long as I'm able to fix whatever they mess up, I'll just continue doing that.
The perks of a modular browser.
Once they deprecate XUL and move to WebExtensions and all that jazz, that's possibly when I'll finally jump ship. Time will tell.
>>51602092
>>OS X was still largely based on PPC, so compatibility was an issue
How did PPC have anything to do with comparability?
>>51602092
but edge is drastically improved ie
and linux has been popular on web servers since the early 2000s
>>51600514
how to do this, I use to do it on ubuntu but don't know how to do it on windows
>>51599762
ff28 was best firefox.
I just deleted the updater and continue to happily use it to this day.
>>51602092
win 8.1 isn't shit.
Just install Cyberfox.
>>51602613
>just install cukerfuck with a different icon
>>51602427
freemake video downloader
flashgot
>>51602632
And support for the old UI and all ff addons/themes, you fucking mongoloid! Fuck pale moon!
>>51602656
Thank, anon.
>>51602676
Palemoon is literally better in every single way, especially since it's more than a reskin.
>>51602427
- Either get MPV like the other anons are saying
or
- Get 'Complete Youtube Saver' for firefox/palemoon (you'll also need to download ffmpeg, just follow the CYS instructions) - This is what I use, it allows you to download whatever quality level you want for the video and merges the split audio+video on newer videos.
>>51602733
Yet it lacks support for many of ff addons. It's based on old ff codebase (security flaws aplenty). Sites don't support it unless you spoof you UA. Its development is a one man show (who's a furry). Fuck that POS!
>>51602809
>It's based on old ff codebase
Except this is wrong, the UI code is mature and Pale Moon is always running the latest Gecko release.
>>51600893
>CURRENT YEAR
>FTP
>theme support
>oh no I can't rice my browser
>>51602800
Sweet, ok. Will do.
Just install Midori or Qupzilla and fuck off!
>>51601251
>ricing my browser is more important than avoiding the botnet
absolutely disgusting
>>51602800
What would I need ffmpeg for though ?
>>51602248
you're either retarded or a freetard
I'm leaning towards number 1.
>>51602921
I'm neither.
>>51599810
Why should it matter in 2015? We should all have at least 8GB. if not 16.
>>51602930
Not >>51602921 but I'll answer your question. PPC can't run x86 programs. Thus the compatibility issue
>>51602912
YOU JUST DO SHUT UP
>>51601251
>CSP bypass due to permissive Reader mode whitelist
Literally the definition of aesthetics over security: they introduced a 100% useless feature that JUST SO HAPPENS to have a massive security flaw. I don't need to remind anyone of the pdfjs exploit, do I?
>>51602912
To remux the audio+video.
Youtube made a major change about about 2-3 years ago, as of that time, Audio and Video are sent separately and normally just played together by the youtube player.
>This allows them, among other thing, to store less data for a given video, since they only need to store a few video files and a separate Audio file, there is less duplication on their end which saves them money.
Is chromium better than firefox at this point?
Why do people call Vivadl botnet
>>51602809
>Its development is a one man show (who's a furry).
This is completely irrelevant to the quality of this project. This line of thinking is similar to how SJWs think. Why does it matter?
>>51603163
Id rather have a furfag dev than an sjw. Furries don't hurt anyone. Sjw's do
>>51602809
>Yet it lacks support for many of ff addons
I have had zero problems with any add-ons so far, more like user problem.
>>51603152
It still downloads and enables binary blobs behind your back, so no.
>>51603153
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>>51603021
But all of the important software ran on powermacs
adopt photoshop was more popular on os x at the time
I switched to palemoon recently and it's nice, but webm in 4chan x doesn't seem to display properly. It plays the first few seconds of the video before cutting out.
>>51603129
Thanks for the clarifications, I was having trouble sorting through the installations or packages etc of ffmpeg but I'm following a guide atm provided by CYS. Appreciate it.
Is pale moon another shill, like win 10, or is it actually good?
Does it have an adblocker?
>>51603273
Make sure to have gstreamer support enabled (check in about:config and make sure the support is compiled in if you compiled it yourself).
>>51603288
It's fantastic, and it supports 99.9% of firefox addons.
It needs to get pretty fucking bad.
>>51603288
It works great, it just has that old Firefox layout that (for me) is hideous. If there only was a way to have Pale Moon with the modern look (with the tabs at the top) I'd be sold.
>Try to install Palemoon
>Installer shits itself and crashes
ebin :D
>>51603363
Hit tabs on top in view menu. An australis theme exists if thats your thing.
>>51602092
If in 5 years we don't have aero and a better browser than chrome I'm gonna fucking lose it
Also this web app meme better end god damn soon
>>51603343
so in what possible ways is it better than firefox developers' edition?
>>51603386
Oh cool, wasn't aware of that. So long, FF.
>>51603189
Furries are optimistic and obsessive, SJW's are angry, pessimistic, and lazy
All companies should have at least one furry making decisions
>>51603189
From what I've seen and experienced I agree. SJWs don't seem to care about the technical aspects which is why anything they touch degrades. Maybe they just lack the necessary technical skill so they focus on the political.
>>51603288
It's a shill meme just like gentoo
>>51603377
>Start page has ad and every font is blurry suddenly.
Nice meme browser fuck this
>>51603361
Do you mean that bit about him not supporting gay's ? I remember that and then I uninstalled firefox but then I guess I forgot.
I guess I will uninstall it now and install palemoon.
What browser are you using ?
>>51603413
It doesn't contain botnet features (DRM, hello, ads, pocket, reader), is more secure both due to this and because there's a faster turnover rate for security fixes, and features that are useful but obvious attack surfaces are disabled by default (pdfjs was disabled long before the firefox vulnerability was revealed), has a fuckload more customization options (old, information download window, tabs on bottom or top, status bar, etc.), and loses support for accessibility features as well as support for xp and before, which increases speed and stability while reducing memory usage. There are additional changes to further improve performance on top of that.
>>51599788
The pale moon layout is meh. Just use waterfox.
How would you guys say Palemoon compares to Waterfox ?
>>51603453
>get a virus called palemoon
>blames the browser called palemoon which he never even installed
>>51603481
>waterfox
firefox + new logo
>palemoon
>>51603469
I use seamonkey life is weird
>>51603319
I have it compiled in. V8/V9 work fine in its own tab, but not in 4chan x. Might be some script issue or something.
>>51603525
Lol, you have convinced me. Alright, sounds good. Chromium I'll install in a bit.
>>51603525
>All the benefits of Chrome without Google data mining you
Are you sure about that?
>tfw used firefox since I have memory
I can't let go
>>51603525
I'm not fond of Chromium's font rendering and some of the weird ways it displays webpages, but there are sites out there that require Chrome and Chromium does the job for those.
Palemoon/Chromium master race desu senpai
>>51603525
>All the benefits of Chrome without Google data mining you
Except for voice recognition proprietary blob being "accidentally" downloaded in your system.
So what's the name of Greasemonkey and uBlock equivalents for Palemoon
>>51603469
>loses support for accessibility features
That's actually pretty fucked.
What's the justification/rationale?
>>51603598
Name one such site. Protip: you literally can't.
>>51603614
Greasemonkey and uBlock Origin.
>>51603614
Ublock should work on palemoon
>>51601875
how did you do it anon?
>>51603636
Greasemonkey doesn't work on Palemoon says dated Firefox version 24.
>>51603615
What's fucked about it? Nobody cares and it is a massive amount of unmaintained code that slows down everything and can be used as an attack surface. There's an indepth explanation with precise examples of that somewhere on the palemoon site (or forums? I think it's on the main site though), but palemoon runs on an OS and OSs already have accessibility features, so what's the issue?
>>51603648
Install 1.15 or the fork that's like 3.5 or something.
>>51603624
If you want to play Duelyst in browser, you have to have chrome.
>>51603648
It works perfectly. Do a forced install when it asks or use an older version if you're a c u c k. It's a hard version-check which assume the version maps to firefox versions so it doesn't know that it's actually compatible.
>>51603676
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromium-voice-extension-pulled-after-spying-concerns/
It's solved now
>>51603670
im sure this aint working properly.
>>51603825
Yeah he lied to you. Use this fork.
https://github.com/janekptacijarabaci/greasemonkey/releases/tag/3.7beta1Fork
>>51603652
>Nobody cares
Except disabled people
>indepth explanation with precise examples
Will try to find
>OSs already have accessibility features, so what's the issue?
It seems reasonable to expect some specialized accessibility features from the browser, being a content viewer with unique features where almost all users spend significant time.
I can't imagine the thing that reads me the contents of my porn folder being very good at reading me some stunning UX web app in general.
That said, there is a lot that goes into the issue so I will look into it more.
>>51603825
That's right, it's not working properly. It's working perfectly.
>>51603864
Thanks, now I got it working.
This seems to be noticeably faster browser than FF at least in my old craptop
>>51603972
I have a C2D with 3GB ram and it runs perfectly while firefox just stutters and I can't even scroll without locking up. With higher-end hardware the difference is only noticeable with several hundred tabs open or when lots of js is running simultaneously. For lower-end hardware, the difference is noticeable right away and scales really far.
these threads are clearly an anti-mozilla campaign, organized and financed by someone/some group(s)
>>51601251
all browser have/had security vulnerabilities, you fucking retarded monkey. in fact, ALL software does.
>>51599762
nice meme you 12 year old
I'm still using Firefox, not seeing anything getting worse?
I picked up the botnet Chrome a year ago and haven't looked back.That's a lie, I've been spiraling into an abyss of just not caring anymore. Please, stay with Firefox even if it's shit, you don't want this.
>>51604903
gb2tumblr
Just switched to Pale Moon, it's so fast that now the loading speed of sites depends only on my shitty laptop and shitty ISP
>use pale meme
>1000% faster
oh man this is great
some addons dont work but i'll live.
How do I transfer all my bookmarks to palemoon?
>>51606026
pale moon vs chromium. whats faster?
>>51606183
Delete everything in Appdata/Roaming/Moonchild Productions/Profiles/[gibberish].default
then copy the firefox profile contents over to that folder
If you get an old session like I did, remove the entire moonchild folder, restart palememe, exit, and try it again with the newly generated folder
>>51606183
I'm wondering the same, plz advise.
If a bunch of crying SJWs that don't give a shit about anything can get the CEO to resign why can't people that actually do give a shit get them to stop the death spiral?
CAPTCHA suggests we use Golf Clubs, Break some knees lads?
>>51606183
Bookmarks > Organize bookmarks > Import and Backup > Backup
Then import in Pale Moon. If you want to transfer your saved passwords, there's an addon for it.
Is chromium only 32 bit ?
Do I have to do anything special to sync Firefox settings with a 64 bit version?
No other browser has competent tree style tabs, therefore no other browser is remotely functional. Quod erat demonstrandum.
>>51606491
Tried just installing Waterfox, it just worked.
>>51600798
What's wrong with Vivaldi?
>>51606507
Tab groups are on the feature chopping block.
>>51606792
It's closed source. it might as well be IE
>>51606825
I think this addon has existed for far longer than whatever you're talking about.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
>>51599762
Went to IE. No more overheating cpu
>>51606859
Unsigned extensions are on the chopping block too. You can't even about:config to undo it unless you're on nightly.
>>51606841
What's wrong with closed source?
>>51603438
Furfag detected
>>51602989
>a simple webpage should use 10 GB of ram because it can
Hi Rajeet
>>51600510
Firefox devs are literally killing every feature Firefox has, to be more like Chrome
This has been going since Australis, it's just getting worse
>>51600690
>If you don't like PM for some reason, SeaMonkey is still in active development.
SeaMonkey will be kill soon, specially when XUL gets kill
The only alternative will be PaleMoon, and by then it will be a full fork from Firefox
>>51601053
>.br uses fewer bytes
We aren't living in the 60's senpai
>>51601493
It will come back soon, it was proposed by the Director of Engineering, he will try to drop support again soon
>>51602843
Keep using your Facebook machine senpai
>>51601159
Removed by Firefox 45, they still don't even have a roadmap of how it will be done
>>51607164
Mi nam es hamood
>>51603249
But le x86 would drive costs down in software development
Actually compatibility wasn't the issue, but rather that PPC was reaching a dead end, IBM wasn't investing much and literally the only PC vendor that used PPC was Apple, IBM had shifted all the development of anything Power related to mainframes
The main reason it's that it was impossible to get the G5 to not overheat on a laptop, PA Semi tried and delivered, but by then Apple had decided to stab them in the back and just jump to Intel
Best decision Apple ever did, they bought PA Semi and got the A series
>>51603662
>Duelyst
>muh gaems
yeah, the botnet sounds about right for you
>>51600510
>being this technically illiterate and not lurking
>>51606309
>If a bunch of crying SJWs that don't give a shit about anything can get the CEO to resign why can't people that actually do give a shit get them to stop the death spiral?
Devs shut down any discussion in the bug tracker that tells them to not fuck everything
>>51606859
Changes in FF 42 killed TST, future changes to the plugin API's will make TST impossible to implement
> Firefox is kill
> Closed-source horseshit and spyware becoming the norm more and more
> apparently Firefox alternatives are shit too
> sjws are bringing the world to an end
I think I might just kill myself now, honestly.
At any rate, is there any useable browser that doesn't spy on you and isn't outdated, buggy horseshit, or a piddling one-man job that will die in a decade?
I run linux, so I'm hoping I actually have some options in that regard. I don't give a shit about aesthetics or gaems, I just want to use the Internet.
I already have flash and Java removed from my computer, I use html5 generally and just don't use anything written in Java.
>>51607357
42 did not kill TST according to the Firefox window I had up a couple minutes ago. Given that the first part is false, I'm doubting the latter part of your post.
>>51607718
Lot's of anons reported problems with TST and 42, the TST dev fixed the problems, but they were related to changes Firefox 42
>https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3m9olr/welp_42b1_broke_the_hell_out_of_tree_style_tab/
>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10097630
When they adopt Web Extensions API and drop XUL it will be impossible to implement TST, there's a reasone there's nothing like TST in Chrome
>>51607793
Why does everything I love have to die?
>>51599762
So what the fuck do we use now?
Safari?
>>51600510
>current year
>being a Social Justice Weenie
Found the tiny-dicked libtarded fuccboi.
>>51608304
/pol/ is that way ------->
>>51607690
SeaMonkey
>>51607718
TST doesn't work properly anymore
>>51608342
>THIS IS A SAFE SPACE, CIS SCUM SHITLORD
>>51599762
I stopped using their bull shit browser awhile ago...the fuck tpok you so long?
>>51608342
>hating SJW's means you're from /pol/
>>51608474
I'd never thought I see so many triggered liberal shitheads on my /g/.
No really
no jokes, no shills
how is PaleMoon?
how is Seamonkey?
>>51608523
User of palemoon here currently, it's flaws are pic related and 720p only for html5 youtube, and it crashed a bit before this patch which supposedly fixed it after i've had it open for like 5 give or take hours and 150-200 tabs.
Also getting working versions/releases off github or mozilla addons are annoying.
Other than that I don't have a better alternative currently, it wins over the other browsers.
>>51608589
I see
I noticed it loads 4chan bigger threads faster
>>51608523
>>51608589
oh and the html5 player sometimes flashes to black periodically throughout a video, you can fix this by reloading however.
i love firefox, really, but it is getting unbearable.
i am going to try jumanj
cfr https://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji/
as i like zathura and all.
anyone here using jumanji?
>>51602585
Yes it is.
Having used Pale Moon for couple of hours now I really like it. I think it is faster than my Firefox was - both with same plugins.
>>51601264
It is just a lightweight fork of WebKit Engine. That is Safari or Konquerer
Chrome has been taking a big shit when I have even a moderate amount of tabs open, so I actually recently switched back to Firefox. It seems to have improved a lot since I abandoned it a few years ago.
>>51608523
SeaMonkey has a god-tier interface and email client. It's as if the golden age of the Internet never ended. Also has an options menu fit for power users.
Pale Moon is snappy and smooth.
So is Pale Moon the only good alternative to Firefox?
>>51609927
>Pale Moon
meme
>>51602656
>>51602800
plebs confirmed
>>51602427
just use youtube-dl
>>51602989
>we have resources
>why bother having efficient code
I bet you prefer nodejs over anything more efficient
>>51602560
What happened after v28?
>>51602092
you gave an example of two lows and one high, there is no pattern.
now if you could give an example with a longer time frame, maybe I'd believe
>>51599762
it's already unusable
>>51606245
Chromium is most likely faster
PM is for more addons + more tabs with less memory usage
>>51608363
What part of it broke? It still works for me
I just want a browser like firefox with tree style tabs, palemoon shills can fuck off since tree style tabs is incomptaible with palemoon
Disabling shit like Speculative Connections and all the other junk I don't use is easy. And I haven't found another browser I can customize for fullscreen view that pleases me as much as FF does.
>>51601549
tabs crashing is a bug. that needs fixing instead of simply ignoring the issue because it doesn't take other tabs down with it.
I heard that they turn the TelemetryPing back on every time there's an update, any verification on that?
>>51600893
>Forcing Australis UI and removing complete theme support
Australis theme is nice - the pinned tabs look like nipples!
Due to how they work, complete themes are ridiculous to develop and maintain now that Firefox releases every ~month (not that they were too great with v2/3) - how they should allow it is as pure CSS, like the devedition theme.
>Forcing Telemetry even if the option is disabled
You are wrong here - there is no UI option to disable telemetry (it says "Share additional data (i.e., Telemetry)" not "Disable Telemetry", and the about:config options to disable telemetry work as they should, even if they are annoyingly spread out these days.
Sure, Firefox is getting a few weird things lately, but it's still the best we've got...
But Firefox is still working well for me. Can someone TL;DR what happened to it?
>>51613546
Are you on windows 10?
I would use pale moon, but it has really shitty extension support. Maybe I'll give SeaMonkey a try though...haven't really looked into it that much.
>>51599762
i won't switch away from it until it gets worse than chrome.
This thread got me into full paranoia mode
Digging around in the about:config file and came across
beacon.enabled
Anybody have any idea what the hell it does?
I'm not having much luck googling it other than fedora tippers talking about it lacking in Pale Moon and shit like that.
I've just went ahead and disabled it, but I am curious as to what its purpose really is.
https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/rev/cfa20e34ebee
> Gstreamer
Into the trash it goes
>>51613854
beacons are a way of sending data to a server when a page is unloaded. usually used for analytics/tracking things, so best disabled imo
>>51613940
it's time to let go of phonon dude.
>>51601264
Lightering browsers maybe good on mobile but useless on computers. Just try Midori to understand what I mean.
>>51599762
How bad is your shit posting gonna be before we have to tell you to stop ?
I would use Pale Moon, but BetterPrivacy and Random Agent Spoofer aren't working. Also, I would like to watch videos on YouTube in 1080p.
Second day with Pale Moon, really liking it so far. My only complaints are that the scrolling is rather slow (at least compared to FF or Chrome), and triple click for highlighting a whole phrase doesn't seem to work for some reason. What the fuck?
At least all of my (few) extensions work. And for 1080p videos I just stream them through mpv.
Fx4 upset me, and Fx5 was enough
>>51614476
>BetterPrivacy and Random Agent Spoofer aren't working
BetterPrivacy is compatible with PM. I've been using it all this time. Maybe you just need to install an older version. Currently I'm using 1.68.1 signed.
Older versions of add-ons aren't necessarily less secure or functional. A lot of future revisions may be Australis compatibility updates or some other superficial changes.
I have no idea about Agent Spoofer, but I use Blender.
>>51613546
>But Firefox is still working well for me. Can someone TL;DR what happened to it?
Nothing. It's just /pol/tards invading /g/.
Can anyone explain why pages like any catalog on 4chan or any forum pages(generally CSS heavy pages I assume) any are painfully slow to load on firefox while chromium and chrome do it so much faster?
If it wasnt for this shit i would probably use fitefox more.
Why do you keep fucking updating? I'm still on 28 and the shit still works fine.
>>51614642
>no security fixes
>web sites using new features won't work (e.g. vp9 video)
>devtools are getting better with each update
>>51614585
Thanks I installed 1.68.1 as you said and it's working. I also found older version of Random Agent Spoofer working. Mozplugger and ViewTube play 1080p videos nicely, although not in 60 fps, but I can live without it.
>>51611144
Nigga what, I'm using Palemoon with the tree style tabs extension just fine.
>>51600534
edgy
>>51600820
Found the tiny dicked beta faggot
>>51601053
Nice try faggot but the proof says you're a retard
The mozilla cuCk literally asked the chrome dev to change it because it was misogynistic
>>51603434
Plus, if you use the beta of Pale Moon 26, there's an Australis theme based on FF42:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=8735#p69481
>>51603659
>>51603648
>>51603614
https://github.com/janekptacijarabaci/greasemonkey/releases
>>51615485
how? I can't install it
>>51615753
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/versions/0.14.2014051101.1-signed
>>51614541
>scrolling is rather slow
You can tweak the smooth scrolling in Options.
Can someone recommend me an alternative to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/
for Palemoon?
>>51616015
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/versions/5.6.3.1-signed
>>51616051
Thank you.
>>51613600
Yes I am.
>>51600893
cool meme.bro
>>51615777
shieeet
