What are some pieces of technology that sport terrible designs?
>>51529063
No human holds the n64 controller like that
I think the N64 is a marvellous controller in that it is the least ergonomic design imaginable and yet it works.
>>51529082
i saw this in action.
i stomped that 8yo kid on every race in diddy kong racing, fuck yeah
>>51529082
glad to know I was always holding it right.
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>>51529063
your hands have terrible design
>>51529098
The controller was literally designed around Super Mario 64 only.
>>51529111
the whore in your pic has terrible design
>>51529063
You shut your fat fucking faggot face because the fucking N64 is the best fucking console of the whole fucking history of the whole fucking world you fucking fagging fuckface fucker fuck
FUCK YOU
>>51529165
u mad, bro?
>>51529165
>the fucking N64 is the best fucking console of the whole fucking history of the whole fucking world
the super nintendo would like a word with you
>>51529254
>>51529108
Wait, there were people who didn't hold the controller that way when trying to use the joystick? Really? Wow.
>>51529063
>>51529633
what the fuck is this monstrosity
>>51529165
To be desu that console was probably one of the most deranged clusterfucks that ever got somewhat popular. Advanced 3D hardware with great texture filtering? Let's limit texture size to 4 KB and kill the performance with overengineered microcode. CD quality audio support? Let's put the games on media that forces devs to ship like 8-bit 8 kHz voices because of space. Developers? We don't need developers, everyone will buy it because of Mario 64.
That controller was the least bizarre thing about it.
>>51529660
It looks like those birth control rings you put in your vagina.
>>51529063
Only retards hold the controller like that. Are you a retard?
>>51529063
I hate this fucking meme.
Nobody asked you to hold it like that.
You put your left hand in the middle and your right hand in the right prong.
Almost no games used the D-pad.
>>51530260
then what's the far left prong for?
I'm open to the argument that they designed it to be like two controllers in one - you can use the left and center or right and center - but that never came to fruition, and even if people had tried to make it so they'd be trying to design a game where you used a D-pad and control stick, but no buttons.
The controller was poorly designed. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call it *comically* poorly designed. Maybe over in /v/ it's more of a "meme", but this is a pretty measured evaluation of that controller.
>>51530260
The D-pad made games like Mortal Kombat or Tony Hawks Pro Skater easier to play. There were few(if any) that exclusively used the D-Pad, but there were quite a few where the D-Pad was preferred over the joystick.
>>51529660
Intel Wireless Series Gamepad Controller
Looks like a toilet seat
>>51530319
given how many games the n64 ultimately had, there would need to have been something on the order of 10-20 really *excellent* games to justify a design as compromised as this.
And that's what this was - a compromised design, trying to satisfy two groups of people at once. That's not easy, and often blows up in your face, as the controller in OP's picture illustrates.
UNIX's "Do one thing and do it well" philosophy isn't born out of some arbitrary thought some neckbeards had; it was the evaluation from studying countless attempts to engineer all-encompassing software projects that tried to be something for everyone.
>Shitposting on another board.
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>>51529353
my brother who has autism held his left hand on the left handle. proves something I swear.
>>51529633
that actually looks really comfortable to hold
>>51530402
>come from symetrical controller where you held the handles on opposite sides
>left hand on dpad and right on face buttons
some people were just used to it you underaged piece of trash
>>51529063
That's a fantastic design. If you use the analog stick you hold the center; If you use the d-pad you hold the left side. Would have made more sense if they came out with more d-pad games (or had backwards compatibility)
>>51529063
equally retarded: pic related
seriously never got into Nintendo because these controllers sucked so much dick
>>51532002
>literally the most comfortable controller to ever be
>says it's shit
>>51532002
>>51529108
riddle me this, Nintendofag
i'll just leave this here
>>51532002
Are you fucking kidding me?
I actually got my GameCube after using a friends.
I didn't even consider games after using that fucking orgasm of a controller.
>>51529967
Theres something bad to say about every console. Hindsight is 20/20. They could have done a lot worse.
Despite this complaint, I'm going to drive manual until flappy paddles are standard or cars drive themselves, but clutch pedals are never far enough outboard since it must be sized for women to use. Seats and steering wheels are infinitely adjustable but width-wise pedal spacing is crammed toward the centerline.
>>51532036
The main problem here is that someone bought an Apple branded peripheral.
>>51532002
>being this young
The best console ever made is the NES.
>>51532032
>>51532032
>>51529702
wtf is that
>>51532036
It makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint. Apple wants everything they make to look ultra sleek all the time. If they allowed you to use the mouse while it was plugged in, then it would look less sleek to other people who see you using the plugged in mouse.
Style >>>>>>>>>>> Substance
>>51532088
That nigga's left shoulder got a boner.
>>51532088
lol this answers nothing
you have to take your hand off the wheel to press anything in your pic, just like you have to take your hand off the joystick in my pic--which means you can no longer use the joystick.
>>51532050
have you used one recently?
that cstick is fucking horrid
the triggers are retarded and require way more pressure and depth than anyone with sense would want
no l2, just a small ass z bumper above the right trigger
and the movement stick was also pretty shit. especially compared to the competition.
only thing good was the A button and the ability to mix it with any of the other buttons at the same time
>>51529165
lol
>>51532136
You are forgetting that at the time it was:
>gamecube
>playstation on-- two
>xbox - fat edition
As for the triggers, they actually had depth, rather than the PS2 ones, which were still buttons.
And for prolonged use, the Gamecube controller is the only one of its time that didn't cause physical pain.
>>51532131
The point is, you rarely need to press any of those buttons in the car, when you do, you usually aren't turning.
I can't recall the left bumper thing on the 64 ever actually being used for anything in most games.
>>51532208
>developers avoid using a button because it's hard to reach and a pain in the ass generally
>"the controller's fine, you don't even need to press that button anyway!!!!"
>>51529063
>>51532032
Z is used instead
LT is for games that use the d-pad as the main navigation instead of Z.
This generally means LT is reserved for toggling a ui or some hidden gem
>>51532126
My sides are in orbit
>>51532249
It probably wasn't intended to be used though.
Just like it would be retarded for the 'select' button to be used for major gameplay on the PS2 controller.
>>51532291
But including a button with no intended use is still shitty design. You've proven my point yourself.
also, left bumper is a critical button in nearly every game outside of N64, yet select is never important regardless of console
>>51532276
>>51532451
see this post
This is how you're expected to enter text on the new Apple TV
>>51532471
That post doesn't counter anything I said. The "left bumper" while you are using the analog stick is the z button at the bottom/back and is arguably more comfortable than reaching your finger up to hit a bumper on any controller. If a game was to use the digital pad, then the Z button wouldn't be used, and the actual left trigger would be used. This allows for comfortable grip on the controller and use of a left input button, regardless if the game calls for analog or digital input.
>>51532002
>these controllers sucked so much dick
if only
>>51532560
Microsoft did it first
>>51532560
same on the hulu console app
shit sux
>>51532208
I think it was used to toggle the edge-of-screen fruits ring in Yoshi's Story, so it was fine just taking the right hand off the controller and reaching over to press it if you needed to.
>>51532002
>posting literally the objectively greatest controller of all time and calling it shit
>>51532560
Why does nobody use the Crockford keyboard for this kind of thing? Make too much sense?
>>51532021
> the most comfortable controller to ever be
Since nintendofags are eternally 8
Try playing the xbox 360.. comfort 4 days
Any controller that look like that when you play anything that require you to use both sticks all the time and fuck you I aint using the claw grip.
>>51532560
microsoft should sue them like they sued samsung.
>>51533152
claw grip master race
>>51533090
Because vertical space is precious with a 16:9 aspect ratio.
This is the future you chose.
>>51532451
>But including a button with no intended use is still shitty design.
So the Select button on the PS2 is bad design?
>>51533245
you can reach select without moving your whole fucking hand you negro
>>51533090
Can't you control your Apple TV with your iPhone? I don't see anyone buying one who doesn't already own an iPhone tbqh
>>51533334
As far as I remember it was an awkward manouver.
But the thing was, it was an accessory button.
You used it like three times a year.
Without it though, you would have to fish through menus or use confusing button combos, but you couldn't map it to something like 'Jump'.
For something like 'change camera angle' or 'skip song' or the like, it doesn't matter if you need to move your hand to use it, but not having the button would be a greater disadvantage.
Someone mention claw grip?
>>51529063
>pic not related
>>51529633
Not sure which end to insert, maybe I need a friend for this one?
>>51532032
With your chin duh
>>51529702
>>51532002
Biggest bait I've ever seen.
>>51533735
I have never considered to play AC this way. But I will, the next time I play it.
>>51529063
>insulting the nintendo 64 controller
Take it back, Samantha
Take it back
>>51533117
It's too bad that the d-pads on both the GameCube and the Xbox 360 are horrendous. Trying to play fighters or shmups on either console is a terrible experience. Come to think of it, the Playstation consoles have pretty mediocre d-pads, too.
>>51534436
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>>51532103
But what about the people who see you charging the most? This is certainly worse.
>>51529702
If Apple came out with one just like this with upgraded specs I'd buy it.
I'd buy one of those now if it didn't cost so much
>>51533117
>360 controller
>heavy
>fuckhueg
>terrible dpad
>concave analog sticks
>>51532102
20th anniversary mac
apple design before 2nd Jobs era
>>51529702
Lain's navi was pretty cool.
>>51532036
Doesn't it only take like 5min to charge fully?
I mean it's a 'bad' decision, but if it's just a 5min wait it's not too bad. I don't like the idea of putting style over usability, but it's not like you have to leave it that way for an hour.
>>51536897
not him, but i keep hearing this about this and the pencil for the ipad. my first counterpoint is that these numbers quote charging up to 80% if i remember correctly. it's not a big deal, but forgetting that final 20% (which takes longer than the first 20%).
but i'll digress, because this isn't the core issue. the core issue actually makes the time to charge irrelevant; flipping the mouse upside down and having the cable come out the way it does is asking for something to catch it and - if caught at the wrong angle - snap off.
Apple used to have a clear vision about what was an unacceptable frustration for users, and then steve died, and now it seems that they don't really have a strong voice guiding design.
>>51535727
so that's why they sucked jobs off to come back, jesus.
>>51529165
This. And no controller has matched yet the N64 controller design, which was god tier. OP is probably a sonydrone.
Anything I don't like.
>>51532032
only an OG smash bros player would know. (Move left hand forward, press L from underneath with your middle finger. This can achieve 2 taunts with 1 action and is HIGHLY OPTIMAL.)
>>51536897
A few minutes for a day, a couple hours for a few months of use.
>>51533117
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The Xbox controller is terrible son.
>>51533735
top kok
>>51529353
Motherfuckers didn't read the manual
>>51529082
>>51529633
>>51529248
This
>>51529063
The Z button was the perfect shooting button. It actually felt like you were pulling a trigger.
>>51532002
People consider this bait but I agree. The gc controller is the shittiest gamepad I've ever used.
>>51532560
You're supposed to use voice search for everything
>>51532002
the gamecube controller is literally the best controller ever, bait harder, faggot
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>>51529633
>>51529063
>>51532002
Greatest controller I've held, it actually curves and properly fits the human hands.
>>51529063
Pretty much every controller is butt fuckingly retarded.
They put the triggers below the bumpers, so you either have to move your fingers off the trigger to hit the bumpers, or use your middle fingers on the trigger.
Then there's the fact that you can't both be pressing face buttons while also using the right stick.
Controllers completely overload your thumbs while only using one, maybe two fingers on each hand.
>>51533896
nostalgia just rekt me hard
I actually did this. It was wierdly satisfying
>>51532088
But you can easily leave one hand on the wheel while using the other hand to do whatever. No loss of functionality.
>>51532062
It's a safety thing.
The idea is you can react quicker and not accidentally miss the brake etc. in an emergency.
>>51532062
you want them close together for dat heel-toe
>>51534655
You can buy some with the removed rumble packs(makes them light as fuck) and domed sticks
>>51547770
But then my controller loses its haptic feedback, although the domed sticks make it slightly better. The dpad and general controller size are my biggest issues
>>51541250
>>51529248
agreed. the super nintendo has the best library of any video game console and is extremely diverse in the genres available.
>>51532172
PlayStation 3 and 4 as well the ps4 controller is so fuckign uncomfortable compared to xbox 360 and GameCube controllers
>>51547803
Are you kidding?
GameCube controller > Pre-DS4 DualShock controllers > DS4 > others > 360 controller
>>51543922
FAAAAKE
