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Have any of the mass surveillance programs actually stopped any
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Have any of the mass surveillance programs actually stopped any terrorism?
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>>51515032
That's classified.

Terrorists in France were communicating with each other openly though, their phones were unencrypted and their messages were in plaintext.
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>>51515032
Yes, but nowhere near enough to justify keeping the programs.
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>>51515032
you really think NSA or anyone else has the power to analyze all the shit on the internet in real time?
they collect data yes but they are not able to analyze all that shit LIVE.
They are only going to use the data to control you.
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>>51515032

Nope, they're most likely for tax collection purposes.
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Sorry, OP. That's a secret ;)
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>>51515197
nobody speaks towel speak though
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no, no they haven't.
move along citizen.
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Mass surveillance isn't intended to stop terrorists only dissidents. ISIS has a facebook and twitter ffs.
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>>51515032
NSA has made a few claims, but all of the ones put out could have been done the normal way with warrants
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>>51515032

Not yet. But they've allowed the Feds to manipulate incompetent morons into joining fake terrorists cells, where they are then sometimes caught trying to detonate fake bombs.

The publicity increases funding, allowing them to continue to entrap even more morons.

Meanwhile, the real terrorists actually kill people from time to time. Far less than from auto accidents, or slipping in the tub, or choking...but still they kill a few people here and there. It's miniscule really.

BUT SOME DAY, the Feds will entrap enough fake terrorists, and get so big and fat with funding, that they'll actually catch a real terrorist or two. Man, that will be so awesome.
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Nope.
The snowden leaks did actually contain information about how many attacks were stopped:
One.
Just one.
100s of billions of dollars and ONE was stopped. And it wasn't a big operation, it was just some chump change attack.

If you think the NSA is doing what it is doing to stop terrorism, you're naive.
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>>51518317

Are you talking about the taxi driver out of San Diego that gave a terrorists organization $8500?
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>>51518453
Yeah. What a big catch.

Almost as big as the millions pouring out of saudi arabia.
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Pfft.

Maybe some ultra retarded drug dealers or something, but nothing meaningful. Encryption is by absolutely no means a new thing for radical elements.
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>>51518469

I wonder if they're ever going to figure out who flooded Syria with weapons between 2011-2013. Or maybe they could figure out who trained Bin Laden in the 80's. Or maybe who produces all of the world's cluster bombs.
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>>51515032
No. Full stop.
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>>51518317
Sometimes I think that NSA and the like are just one huge moneysink and nothing else.
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