Internet advertsing companies finally woke up.
You know why adblocking works? Because most people are stupid enough to use generic IDs like "ads" and "here-goes-the-ad", so it's easier to filter them.
But a new revolution has begun in Germany, with ad scripts that finally generate random IDs and image URLs (similar to legit images) for the ads, making them unblockable.
Now we just need to wait for other companies to be smart enough to copy this obvious idea.
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Isn't this why there's whitelisting in NoScript?
>>51393644
fuck.
It was nice for a while then that I could browse a site without a shitty banner for something i don't want shoving itself in my face.
I guess we'll have to wait for an adblocker than can get around this.
>>51393644
So you just block the dimensions, retard.
>>51393670
Then they would have the ad placed at a randomly generated location on the page
>>51393644
>ad scripts
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>>51393664
All adblockers need to do is block the image/banner using a hash.
You block the domain dummy, and buying thousands of domains is expensive so they won't do that.
>>51393644
GORHILL AKBAR
just tryed it on my laptop, no ads anywere to see.
Fuck off shill
I use ublock origin and no script.
adshill btfo
>>51393695
>what is serverside scripting/page generation
>>51393644
test
>>51393722
>implying
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>>51393644
>It's the end of adblockers.
nah.
>>51393644
>block xpath/css-syntax path to elements
>block bizarrely named css classes and shit that may be scrambled but are still reused between ads and such because that's how css classes and shit work
>???
>no more profit from ads
>>51393644
see
>>51393717
also no ads for me, op is full of shit
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unless they dynamically download the ads onto the local server and serve them from there you can just block the source...
>>51393644
>You know why adblocking works? Because most people are stupid enough to use generic IDs like "ads" and "here-goes-the-ad", so it's easier to filter them.
of course retard, during all these years no one realized this until now
>>51393644
div > div > img
You know OP, there are multiple ways for a css selector to find elements
Also:
>>51393695
>>51393749
>>51393787
Adaway master race.
Ads already entered new age with in-site popups over entire browser asking for donations, feedback or to join their fucking Facebook or what not.
>>51393644
Just block the IP?
>>51393699
this
i use ublocko as a cosmetic thing basically
>>51393644
We already know how to block shit like that.
>>51393693
It doesn't fucking matter if the dimensions of the ad itself are the same. Even if they started randomly generating the size as well, there are only so fucking many possible iterations. This can literally all be solved via filters, and will be.
>>51393644
>Not understanding how adblockers work
>Being this new
>>51393664
You may not want it until you see the ad. All ads serve to create an anxiety relievable by purchase.
>>51393644
Just use a text-only browser like elinks, dummy
I did something crazy.
I actually turned off uMatrix and refreshed that page leaving only uBlock Origin to defend me.
Still no ads.
werks on my machine.
Works fine for me on Canary 49.0.2566.0 (64-bit) and uBlock Origin 1.3.3
>>51393782
Annoying at first, but good overall
>>51393698
Until the ads start using a script to randomly change one pixel in the image before displaying it.
>>51394020
I'd let the one on the right handcuff me any time.
>>51394050
Block the script.
>>51393644
No problems with Spiegel, BILD is a bitch though.
https://bild.de for those who want to try.
>>51394072
>blocking server side scripts
>>51394076
I thought people had this figured out already... with 3 additional lines of filters
>>51394072
you can't block server side scripts that are simply part of the website
Everyone go home, OP is a retard.
>>51394076
the alternative anti ad block killer list offered in ublock works on bild.de
Works fine for me, also nice wasted space.
>>51394076
BILD also works fine for me.
Who cares, I just won't visit those sites.
random ids and classes have been there for at least 5 years, did you sleep under a rock?
>>51393644
>You know why adblocking works?
> Because most people are stupid enough to use generic IDs like "ads" and "here-goes-the-ad", so it's easier to filter them.
But that's wrong.
Also
>not using uMatrix
Top kek.
>>51394076
>timed out
>>51394085
>>51394090
Oh server side. Well either way it has to be presented to the browser somehow and that in itself is a means by which to block it.
If it is done on a third party domain then that is easily blocked, if it is done on the first party domain then it is taking control over the advertising away from the advertising companies and giving it to the site, which is a benefit anyway.
>>51394068
the stuff that I'd let her do to me..
>>51394076
>>51394135
Need to fix the link: http://bild.de
They don't seem to support HTTPS.
>>51394095
Reek's anti ad block killer list? Doesn't work for me...
>>51393698
>All adblockers need to do is block the image/banner using a hash.
>have to load the image completely to block it
UHIDE, UHIDE
>>51394150
No ads for me.
>>51393655
Yes op is just stupid.
>>51393644
Works just fine here (:
> MVPS HOSTS
> ABP
> Fanboy Ultimate List
>>51394163
There are some cases where ads can only be hidden and not blocked.
This is true for all adblockers.
>>51394095
>>51394150
>>51394164
Nevermind, got it.
Had to get rid of Disconnect either (don't even know why I didn't set up uBlock to replace it; will do that now). Funny thing though is that stupid Anti Adblocker script also triggers non-adblock users sometimes. It's way too aggressive.
>>51394186
>>51394131
>uMatrix
>not NoScript
>>51394210
noscript a shit.
try to whitelist a 3rdparty script only on a specific page.
>>51394186
Like what, fucking text ads? If you block properly the ad server won't even be fucking contacted you retarded shit.
>>51394233
What if the ad server is the content server?
>>51393644
It's dumb, because you can still block the ad-servers.
>>51394240
Then you're browsing a fucking ad server.
>>51394207
dummer Froschpfostierer
>>51394098
bild was being bitchy for me until i blocked all scripts with ublocko
>>51394222
why would you want to do that?
>>51394240
90's called, they want their selfhosted ads back.
>>51394290
>uhide user meming :^)
>>51394240
then the content is an ad
wtf, do you even internet? whats the point on using ad networks along with your server if your content is served like an ad? no caching, no need for your server, NO NEED FOR YOUR CONTENT
>fag
>>51394294
when page A and B use the same script cdn and I don't want to allow it on page A but on B.
>>51394281
Exactly. If you want content you won't be able to block contact to the ad server because they are one and the same.
Assuming they also don't use easily filtered file names that means that you can't block connections to the ads, only hide the areas they will appear.
>>51394297
>i have no argument
>>51394297
nyaa.se does that?
>>51393644
You can still block them by blocking the hosts
>>51394328
>self hosting ads means your content is advertising
I guess Nyaa is an advertising site then.
Even then it is possible to just make the URL appear local but redirect it from the webserver to another location.
>>51394297
Anti-adblock ad service PageFair use self hosting as a fallback.
>>51394348
>||files.nyaa.se/an*.jpg$image
>gay website, itooktheb8
>>51394385
They change the letter combination from time to time, it's not always "an"...
>>51394385
They change the filenames every once in a while.
>>51394348
At one point if you blocked ads you couldn't download torrents. Nyaa is a full blown jew.
>stop visiting shitty sites
WOW that was really fucking hard
>>51394331
wtf guys...
the ad still has to point somewhere, and track the click which is always something like ads.cnd.0.whatever.com, you cant random that or anything.
>>51394385
Just change it to a* instead and you should be good.
I thought we were over this 'block all ads' meme.. You are destroying the web by blocking ads.. so please stop...
>>51394409
That's not how it works.
>>51394419
There are many sneaky ways you can add hyperlinks to images after they load.
>>51394397
>>51394399
then block all jpg's, or whitelist only png's or stop browsing drawn cp lists, da fuck is wrong with you?
>>51394468
>letting javashit run on your computer
No there isn't.
yeah they came through on my machine, first ads i've been served in years
adding custom filtes for
>http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-317249-hppano-*
and
>http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-350716-panoV9free-*
got rid of them though. nice try.
>>51394470
It is most probable they have a script that monitors image hits compared to page hits and will change the filename structure and/or file type if the images are loading far less than the pages.
All you need to do is implement a simple css statement that will hide the ads. Who cares if they load? They local, they don't get money from them unless they're clicked.
>>51394502
I like ordering pizza though.
>>51393644
>Visiting Axel Springer owned media
Fool
>not using ABP instead of memblock
>>51393717
I second to this
lol OP got told
>>51394163
seriously don't care about this, wouldn't this even mean that sites still get money for ads, but you don't see them
Of course it would take longer to load and shit, but that would be pretty much unnoticeable and sites would have no reason to be "angry" at ad blockers
Better alternative than seeing all the fucking ads after this long of clean browsing
Well , spiegel.de, I'm waiting for your bloat ?
Oh wait, this is the www, I'm the one making them HTTP requests and reading the responses' contents so I guess I'll display whatever the fuck I want.
>>51394560
Works fine with uBlock for me.
And I also have no problems with bild.de because I set uMatrix to block all scripts by default.
Also, even if I couldn't block their ads, it wouldn't matter because I'm not visiting spiegel, bild (lol), or any other of these sites.
Hmmm none of these seem to have anything to do with the content on the page maybe I'll just block all of them. Good thing I block third party scripts and frames by default.
>>51393644
>with ad scripts that finally generate random IDs and image URLs (similar to legit images) for the ads, making them unblockable.
The NoScript guy has been doing this for years on his website.
I started doing this on my website a while ago.
Obviously I should charge for consulting.
>>51393693
Literally destroying their shitty formating for everyone
>>51393644
AdBlockers only come second after the hosts file. Most ads and annoying shit doesn't even reach the browser that way.
>>51394331
>Assuming they also don't use easily filtered file names
To make it completely unblockable, use data: URIs and don't support Range headers.
>>51394862
address?
>>51395032
Also the ad would be need to be before the content. Of course it would still be hideable, just not blockable.
>>51393644
it will take an hour or two before the devs work out ways to identify the ads.
Ublock might be destroyed
but Ublock Origin still works
faggot
>>51393699
this
there are limited amount of IPs as well and most ad networks are separate entities from sites.
I came here looking for a thread like this. Has anyone noticed issue with loading youtube videos + ublock origin?
It works in chrome, but with ads.
I have to press play and sometimes that does nothing.
>>51394210
Why would he used inferior software?
>>51394330
Using noscript and getting around what you're saying takes three mouse clicks.
For example, I don't use any google products at all. Sometimes I HAVE to use them in certain situations, like posting on 4chan.
I have it setup as follows..
Noscript global setting:
Make permissions tab specific and not reload all tabs when a change is made.
Whitelist:
4chan.org and 4cdn.org
Temp allow:
When I want to post - I temp allow google.com and gstatic.com on this site. Again, with three clicks of my mouse and I can post.
It's not that hard.
>>51393644
thats not how ublock works you retarded
>>51395240
Well that was a waste of time. Apparently I also installed the user script "Stop Youtube Autoplay" along with YAYS.
What the fuck.
>>51393644
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/c4846f48ba1ffba16e4b739115027b5cc6fd78e7
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Inline-script-tag-filtering
>>51395570
chrome a shit
>>51393698
Then all advertisers need to do is change one pixel.
>>51393699
Randomly named sub domains on the same site as the content itself.
Or, fuck, use the same thousand random sub domains for both adds and content.
>>51393644
>thinking that ids are the only way to identify content
This isn't 1980, anon. Adblocking rules will get more complex, like "the third embed on the page" or "any image 600x200 px". It's a perpetual cat and mouse game.
we block the domains desu
>>51393644
Among all these fine answers, You can just use a script blocking program.
>>51393644
>yfw in 2020 servers only send you websites as a pdf with the ads baked in
>op is fucking retarded
Nothing new here.
androidfag here
im not worried, people who make adblockers are smarter than advertising designers & infinitely more bitter
but am i gonna need anything more than Adaway? & is it possible to block youtube commercials, or are the Jews too strong?
>>51393810
lots of adblockers also block fb/twitter/... buttons.
>>51397161
Thank goodness.
>>51393699
For real.
>>51393644
Do you even know how ad blockers work?
>>51393722
Server-side generation costs resources from your side that affects scalability. Hence the push to use javascript and force the work to the client.
>People assuming the free no strings attached ride would last forever
Well it looks like you are not actually intitled to websites entirity of hosted content at zero cost to you for ever.
What a fucking shock.
What where they supposed to so about it? Ask for subscriptions and get shit on for it?
Also I'm kinda of skeptical that this is legit if Google isn't doing it.
>>51397383
>What where they supposed to so about it?
Do business in a way that respects their visitors. If they can't make a living that way then just shut it down, find a real job.
>>51397383
> implying all the shitty click bait sites are actually performing a valuable service that we should be paying for
>>51397383
>implying it matters if a bunch of "news" sites that copy/paste content from other places shut down
>>51397383
It's this simple: If you force me to pay for it, i will just go to the next free distributor of that content.
I don't see any ads? just update your ad blocking lists OP
ITT: OP compromises a random German website and baits random users on /g/ into infecting themselves
>>51397449
and when there aren't any left because your self-entitled nature has made it unsustainable?
>>51397575
Do something else.
>>51394068
May I take the law into my own hands?
>>51397559
I surf with protection.
>>51396651
That would be more secure tho
I mean, aside from loads of PDF vulnerabilities, if its just a static image you don't have to worry about drive-by downloads, annoying popups, flashing banners, etc
when are they gonna have DRM'd websites that require an approved browser to decode the content?
