http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/08/mozilla-plans-to-remove-support-for-heavyweight-themes-in-firefox/
>Mozilla announced yesterday that it plans to remove heavyweight theme support from Firefox as part of the organization's great or dead initiative.
>Benjamin Smedberg, Sr. Engineering Manager at Mozilla, stated in the bug report that heavyweight themes can do "arbitrary styling and replace chrome packages" but did not list reasons for Mozilla's decision on the bug tracking site.
>One likely reason for the change is Mozilla's plan to move away from giving extensions -- and themes -- full control over the browser. Another that complete themes are not overly popular. Only three complete themes have more than 100,000 users each.
The top 10 themes on AMO have 895,690 users combined, yet Mozilla considers that a minority undeserving of support because being a Chrome clone is what they consider "great" and being unique, open, and customizable is what they consider "dead".
Every single fucking time this company introduces/announces a big change, it always shits all over what the original purpose of Firefox was. I'm seriously considering switching to Pale Moon at this point before I have to do it out of rage because SJWzilla finally destroyed the usability of the best browser there ever was.
>inb4 bloat
>inb4 rice
>browser themes
kek, is the 2006 or are u 006 years old lad??? ;)
>>51257986
Does this mean I won't be able to CSS style the browser?
>Smedberg
Are you fucking serious.
>>51257986
holy fucking shit, when do you finally move to vivaldi. as much as its name is shit, it's a great, fully customizable and non-botnet browser.
>removing extensions
Haha why the fuck are they being so stupid
>themes
Lmao child
>>51258556
Last I checked the extension support was garbage, has that changed?
>Themes
Literally who cares
Good riddance
>visit complete theme collection
>not available for firefox 42
>not available for firefox 42
>not available for firefox 42
>not available for your platform
I'm not a fan of this senpai
>>51258571
it still somehow is. but now it's rather up to extension devs to change that.
>tfw Firefox edge over Chrome is all the extensions it has
>Mozilla plans to remove those things
For what reason?
Seriously, something tells me that someone high in the hierarchy is getting orders from Google to kill Firefox.
>>51258734
>Theme
>Relevant extension
pick one
Can you still make custom userstyle themes?
It's just themes, who cares. That being said having the chat IM thing in with Firefox means something bad is going on. I think the original Firefox people are being pressured by the FBI, Jews, Illuminati to make their browser suck or else they will magically die in accidents.
>>51258383
>>51258568
>>51258581
>>51258761
Mozilla shills detected. Your only retorts are that themes are for kids or they're not relevant somehow. If you have never used a heavyweight theme, I feel bad for you son.
>>51258918
If you have ever used a heavyweight theme, I feel bad for you kiddo.
>>51258918
Yeah the joys of them breaking every other version.
>>51257986
>I'm seriously considering switching to Pale Moon
Fuck no. Being raped by Mozilla is definitely better than that.
>>51258734
The reason? Millenials.
>>51259027
Huh?
>>51257986
>it just keeps getting worse.
>>51258965
LOL
>>51259052
>vaporeon
>>51258965
Fuck off, Mitchell Baker
>>51257986
So to what browser do I migrate
what's /g/'s recommended browser?
>>51257986
>as part of the organization's great or dead initiative.
So that explains the recent history of firefox. They are working hard on the >dead part. Now it all makes sense.
Fuck this shit.
If ff is totally dead, I will need a new computer, because my current X200 is maxed out at 8GB of RAM.
>>51259083
Pale Moon or Vivaldi
>falling for /g/ memes though
>>51259078
say that to my face not online and see what happens
>>51259099
>>51259067
Yes you can read. Good dog.
in terms of privacy, how well does chromium stack up against mozilla?
>>51259249
>tripfagging without a tripcode
You must be new here
>>51259272
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromium-voice-extension-pulled-after-spying-concerns/
>>51259279
I know right
>>51259290
so then, not very well at all? or is this a good thing?
>>51259249
are you a giant slutboi like the vaporeon I know
>>51259308
The fact that it happened should make any sane person question whether they can trust Chromium.
>>51259325
how do we know firefox doesn't track us?
>>51259322
maybe :3
>>51259332
Unless you check the source and compile it yourself, you don't.
>>51258556
>non-botnet
You mean closed source shit?
>>51259361
But at least you can.
https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/feedback/firefox?#
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>>51257986
Looking at the numbers for the most popular themes is bad statistics. They should look at the total amount of people running any kind of full theme against all users.
But of course collecting this metric requires what freetards believe is spyware.
>>51257986
>Full Themes
Good riddance. Only 12 year old would be upset by this.
FUCK YEAH SEAKING
Yet another undesirable update.
I guess I'll be using 28 until I retire.
>>51259513
Hey, did you not notice the seaking post above you? Pay attention.
>>51258556
>best baroque composer
>shit name
Get on my level mVIII
literal trash
>>>/trash/40797
You people are missing the goddamn point. The reason I'm (OP) upset is not because they're removing support for complete themes. I don't even use a complete theme. The reason is because they keep removing functionality that's been essential to Firefox's distinguishment from Chrome for a while now and this is another aspect of the customization and privacy (comparable to Chrome) that I love about Firefox being gutted.
>>51259044
he means you.
>>51259513
>>51259523
>>51259534
>>51259538
Hey you all need to pay attention, you completely overlooked the funny meme located here:
>>51259442
>>51259564
For seaking's evolution, a custom brown pill was used to enhance its abilities.
The Brown Pill Always Wins.
>>51259534
>>51258556
>proprietary
>non-botnet
ok kid
>>51259799
>implying proprietary = botnet
Fuck off with your bullshit /g/ memes and freetard shit
>muh sparkly speshul snowflake of uniqueness
>>51258563
>>removing extensions
>removing extensions?
where is dis stated cunt munching cunt.
ffs
>pleb
lel
>Themes will be disabled after you restart Bloatfox.
y/n?
>>51259851
>>51258476
No it does not. Stylish will still work, until the full switch to WebExtensions, but they have claimed that they will add APIs to allow Stylish to work then as well.
>>51258628
This is why they are killing it. Because, since they moved to the update-every-fucking-week schedule, themes were being broken on a very regular basis, and the system requires theme devs to manually update the theme to state that it is compatible with new versions even if nothing changed in the newer versions to break it.
They crippled the theme support ages ago, and are now considering finishing it off just as soon as everyone stopped using complete themes and started using Stylish/CSS themes.
>>51258765
Yes, until Web Extensions kills that, but they claim they will work with addon devs to have an API to allow it even then.
>>51259513
Why specifically 28?
>>51260142
Testament to avoiding becoming part of the 27 Club
>>51259442
nice meme
I rate it 6/10
>>51258734
>Talks about extensions
>>51258761
>Replies thinking it's only about theme
Dense.
>>51259044
You heard him. Millennials too dumb to know how to use software and expect companies to do things for them whether or not it's watered down as fuck.
Chrome is entry level trash because it's software catered for lazy ass kids.
>>51260272
>implying that millennials are less adept at using computers than literally every age group above them
>implying that computer literacy doesn't decrease as you ascend in generations
>>51260358
>Millennials still acting like lazy manbabies when they should had grown out of that rebellious hormone-induced phase years ago.
Older generations are fucking retards too, but at least they're productive.
>>51260358
most millennials are technology C U C K S
>>51260358
>implying millennials know how to use office
it`s all about apps my friend :^)
>>51260358
they're keks desu senpai
>>51260418
>>51260443
>>51260446
>>51260451
I didn't say millennials were computer literate, I said they were more computer literate on average than older generations. Chrome being watered down, entry level trash caters more to computer illiterate people than millennials.
>>51257986
how do i dark theme now without FT DeepDark complete theme?
ffs, nigger mozilla
>>51260470
it caters more for the c u c k s browsing facebook and youtube all day long.
Also, the fags deploying wordpress websites
>>51260481
http://venturebeat.com/2015/11/08/wordpress-now-powers-25-of-the-web/
:(
>>51260470
>computer literate
Are you kidding me? You're talking about a consumerist generation that is content using nothing more than a handful of simple apps for their social media needs. It cancels out any advantage they have being younger and more competent at technology.
>>51259811
proprietary = you don't know if botnet or not
>>51260541
that's fucked up. It's meant for soccer moms to blog about recipes and how quickly they managed to get their kid ready this morning BECAUSE OF THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK THAT YOU WON'T BELIEVE
not fucking web applications and general websites.
>>51257986
At this point, who is their target audience?
They had the powerusers, but they've fucked the browser up so bad that group isn't interested anymore and if any powerusers are still using FF, they're almost certainly just waiting for a semi-decent alternative to switch too at this point.
So they try I assume to target normalfags and those people already using chrome by becoming a chrome clone, yet why would normalfags who most likely don't even care about what browser they're using switch from chrome to an inferior chrome clone?
Usually you can find some kind of sensible reason for changes, but FF, I just don't know maybe their HQ is just an echo-chamber for their shit ideas.
>>51260470
Millennials are computer illiterate as a rule. Being able to use Facebook to stalk, or being about to use Tinder to fuck a different cocksleeve a few times per week, does not equal computer literacy.
I think computer literacy peaked with people born between the mid 70s and the very beginning of the 90s.
>>51260548
You're forgetting that older generations by and large don't even know how to do that. Most elderly people don't even know how to turn a computer own. Most baby boomers can barely type at 30 wpm. Gen X is only moderately less competent than millennials.
You're just a fucking autist who programmed and compiled your own Gentoo installation and coded every program you use on it in C++.
>>51260580
it's just a bunch of SJW homo's in that office now
>>51260580
>So they try I assume to target normalfags and those people already using chrome by becoming a chrome clone, yet why would normalfags who most likely don't even care about what browser they're using switch from chrome to an inferior chrome clone?
Spot on.
>>51257986
>no more complete black themes
>only firefox default 100% #FFFFFF white aryan theme available next year
feels good man, i like that mozilla wants to preserve all whiteness in this god forsaken world
let's not forget Windows 10 and all white windows and titlebars
'tis a good year to be white viking
>>51260596
Oh yeah it's a mark of shame to have written programs.
>C++
>>51257986
There haven't been any good themes for Firefox since about 2011 when the release schedule got faster and broke themes more often. Which is a shame because there were some cools things you could do with them.
>>51257986
I've never used a theme and never will
I'm glad that they made firefox a little less bloated
>>51260596
That's because the critical window when they should learn to use technology came and went.
They may be inept in IT but you'll find them competent in a lot of other (useful) fields. And in many ways they'll do better in life in the long run than these millennials will ever do.
>>51258556
>non-botnet browser
>proprietary browser
>>51260651
Who gives a frick you god damn autist
>>51260673
>frick
>calling somebody an autist
Holy kek
It seems I'll use either Vivaldi or Edge at this point. Just wait until Vivaldi becomes decent and Edge supports extension, and I'll choose what will I use.
>>51260673
>Not sure if trolling or not
>>51258771
>It's just themes, who cares.
I care. I use LittleFox because my screen is small. The second I can't use it anymore is the day I start using w3m. (Or Mothra)
>>51260596
>old people cant into computers
>most people can't type really fast (false)
>i can into computers though, i know that downloading ram is a myth
>and i can type fast
>but you're an UBER NERD for knowing how to kode
>becasue i can't into programming
>>51260701
who are you quoting?
>>51259811
go play some gaems faggot
>>51260610
it's probably becaues the theming engine is shit and unsustainable
they will probably replace it with something better once they implement servo
>>51259397
>smile/frown format
What the hell? It's more complicated than that. It's like asking how student debt makes you feel in 5 emoji or less.
>>51260701
>old people CANT into computers
>baby boomers, not people in general
>...
Dunno where to go from there, you just kinda descended into full blown sperglord mode, anon
>>51260651
>They may be inept in IT but you'll find them competent in a lot of other (useful) fields. And in many ways they'll do better in life in the long run than these millennials will ever do
qft
millinials, as you call them, may know how to use apps, but they don't know how to think, they have an extremely low sense of work ethic, and an unnaturally high sense of entitlement. a perfect storm, a recipe for disaster, designed to fail, or become obsolete. combined with yolo'ing they'll fizzle out. but there's always hope and a chance that they'll buck the fuck up.
I think the main reason that millennials can't learn shit about using a computer these days is that every program is a special snowflake. You have programs with the WordStar toolbar approach, you have programs with ribbons, you have hamburger-oriented UIs, and you have programs that were clearly geared toward phones, you have programs where buttons look exactly the same as hyperlinks, you have programs that abandon the scrollbar metaphor (and this is just in four different MS programs). Browsers are of course completely fucked up Chrome clones now too; some of the weirdest and least consistent UIs of all.
There are no consistent metaphors to learn like there was when we learned how2puter.
>>51260673
shit == lost
>>51260743
You sound upset, anon
>>51260695
>Just wait until Vivaldi becomes decent
Literally the second they go open source.
>have Plain White installed
>browser is actually faster and smoother
God damn it Mozilla fuck your shit
>>51260734
>Dunno where to go from there, you just kinda descended into full blown sperglord mode, anon
>you're a sperg
>but i'm not a sperg beacause i know only the very basics about a computer (still more than all thoes old people though)
honestly, you really should learn how to program. you'll feel better about yourself, and won't have to dump all your self worth into the fact that you can google something faster than some "old person"
which brings me to yet another point about "millennial", and their problems. Googling something is not the same as having knowledge on a topic. You can't google everything you need for success. Believe it or not, there are still things that you can't just look up or reference when you think you need them. It's called "the illusion of knowledge". Just because something is bouncing around in your mind's short term memory after you look it up for a few days, doesnt mean that you've "learned" it. Learning something requires repetition, recall, and explaining it to other people in your own words. Once you've truly mastered a topic then you can compartmentalize that knowledge, and use it as a building block to learn other things.
Why am I going off on what seems to be a tangent? Well, it's because the so called millennials, and by that i don't mean every person born after an arbitrary date, I mean the people who have a smug air of superiority about their own rudimentary knowledge on a particular range of subjects, and therefore believe they are capable of discussing or debating, or in extreme cases, asserting about the aforementioned topics.
this is a good thing, ricing truely is the cancer of this world
>>51260841
flatshit truly is the cancer of this world
>>51260841
Yes it's much better to have someone else tell you how your stuff should work
>>51260857
*look
Forget themes, they're planning to butcher Firefox's extension system?
In what way?
>>51258556
This is the worst browser I've ever used, and I use IE (not 6)
>>51260832
The millennials ostensibly completely lack this ability for actually learning things. It's as if it actually hurts their brains to practice spaced recall. But that's irrelevant because they would never have the time to practice anything that would lead to real learned knowledge; usually they are too pre-occupied with whatever ephemeral and vapid fad is captivating them at the time. Social media, and the commercialisation of internet in general play a minor part, but I don't blame these entities, because there are alternatives and choices. You can choose to spend your time in time-sinks, or you can choose to spend it on something prudent. I blame the individual for not realizing that the onus lies with them.
>>51260874
Well extensions need to be signed by Mozilla now, that's the latest change.
Do people even realize that Firefox is FOSS, as in there will be forks that allow full themes IF people want them.
Bitching over free software(in both meanings) has to be stupidest thing I know.
>/g/ can't make their own Stylish CSS
>/g/ cares about shitty themes
I thought you knew how to use computers.
>>51260948
Yeah, a shitty fork being maintained by one guy with no security updates that quickly gets outpaced by everything else.
>>51260087
So, a constantly updated browser (something that has become necessesary in these times of html5 constant improvements) breaks the old extensions made using outdated technologies?
Wow.
Why the fuck is having a reliable browser that doesn't change every week such an impossibility? Is this some secret government shit where they don't let it happen? It's fucking 2015 almost +1 and we're still crying over shit we should be bale to make happen ourselves. Fuck this world and fuck you OP.
>>51260977
Welcome to /g/.
>>51260979
Indeed. So, if Mozilla are the best maintaining Firefox. why don't you trust them, hun?
>>51260989
HTML5 changes constantly, and improves constantly.
Are you talking about Firefox? Do you realize they need to change or they will die bellow the 10% marketshare?
>>51261025
Being the "best" at something doesn't mean that you're actually good at it.
It only means that you're better than everyone else.
The way Firefox is headed, the difference is bound to be irrelevant.
>>51261066
>Being the "best" at something doesn't mean that you're actually good at it.
>It only means that you're better than everyone else.
wtf is this shit
>>51261025
i used to use firefox, for many years. but then chrome come with V8, and the whole web needed javascript, so not only was the layout super fast, but the js performance was *ke kech* (like the armor)
i just tried to use the firefox developer version a few days ago, genuinely wanting to get off of chrome, but i was disappointed.
i don't like the way firefox lays out it's user interface. it's bigger than chromes, and the way it comes off to me is it's not putting the content first. it still wants to be like "look, i'm here" i just want it to be out of the way, and i *dont* want to use a "reading mode" either, becasue that's not my workflow. generally i'm browsing, and have some text editors and a terminal open. i don't want to continually switch between "reading mode" and my workspace. but i digress on that aspect.
i've heard good things about Servo, the new layout engine by mozilla research, written in rust. if it's really good, *and* they make the UI more like chrome in terms of minimalism, as well as the back end UI (administration, etc) i would like it better.
generally, i think the chromium way of doing things with a minimalist ui is superior to the FF/gecko way anyway. if there were a chromium with Servo as the layout engine, and v8 js performance, i'd use that. hope someone on the dev team sees this. wish you luck
>>51261095
>and the way it comes off to me is it's not putting the content first
Look at this, does this look like a "look, i'm here" interface. this isn't even an old theme, is the current one with a web add-on.
gecko is pretty fast. is great for opening new paages, returning to thhe previous page, and for its super smooth scrolling, give it a try.
>>51261150
forgot pic
>>51261150
i made the comparison while having both open at the same time on my computer
>>51261025
>>51261066
>>51261091
They're the best at the retard olympics.
>>51261158
also i don't like the settings views either. the chromium way of organising them is more logical
>>51261189
we are talking about we browsers, dude.
Being the better at web browsers makes you good at web browsers.
Just as being the better at retard Olympics makes them good at retard Olympics.
read this shit again:
>Being the "best" at something doesn't mean that you're actually good at it.
And tell me how it makes any sense.
>>51261203
>also i don't like the settings views either.
fucking bullshit. once you finish configuring any software, how often do you visit the settings of that program? complaining about how the settings looks is stupid.
>>51260470
millennials use iPhones, not computers
>>51261238
>we are talking about we browsers, dude.
It was an analogy wherein Mozilla and the developers of the forks (e.g. Palemoon and Waterfox) are the retards in the retard olympics - Mozilla wins but they're still retarded. Outside of that group are several other "athletes" who don't have to wear a helmet while walking down the sidewalk.
Would you like me to continue this whimsical analogy or do you get it?
>>51261251
pic related. but then i realised you don't do any real work, so that completely explains your position on the matter
>>51261251
what i mean actually, and i should have been clearer, is that the downloads and history views are consistent, and to boot the settings views are also consistent. they're clean too. it's a hallmark of good design in any discipline, software, architecture, consumer goods: when nothing can no longer be taken away.
>>51260874
>We are implementing a new extension API, called WebExtensions—largely compatible with the model used by Chrome and Opera—to make it easier to develop extensions across multiple browsers.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-developing-firefox-add-ons/
They are dropping the powerful current extension system in favor of the weak one covered by chrome.
>>51261025
>HTML 5
>improving
>Do you realize they need to change or they will die bellow the 10% marketshare?
Firefox was the most popular browser before they began trying to clone Chrome and changing the UI every week. I don't think they understand that no one wants an ersatz Chrome when they can just use Chrome itself. Mozilla have killed off any prospective audience.
>>51261392
I'm sorry for you but IE was most popular before chrome
>>51261392
ja sieg heil
>>51258556
>vivaldi
Nobody wants another chrome skin.
>theme
Yaeh I hate it too when Firefox keeps removing shit but this is not one that I mind
That's it. I'm out! Fuck Firefox, the browser of keks
Mozilla has completely lost their marbles. Until a viable alternative shows up, Pale Moon is currently the best browser of choice (that isn't botnet-based).
>inb4 Waterfox/Cyberfox
Is there any browser that renders webpages faster than Chrome or Chromium and has good extension support?
>>51261567
>>51261623
samefag
>>51261784
Try again, cretin.
maxthon . com
>>51258556
vivaldi is part of the google-botnet-family. all your lolis belong to google
>>51257986
It feels good to have a browser around which is customizable to the bone and damn fast...
Fuck Open Source, fuck Google Botnet and Mozilla Chrome clone needs, Jon Techner, the former Opera chief is my new hero!
>>51261853
Yet it is customizable, Firefox is instead getting more and more simplistic and minimal. Luckily most people just will drop it if they realize it will be "another Chrome without Blink" - only the crack addicted Mozilla and Open Source fanatics will keep on supporting Firefox - and luckily you ignorant guys are the minority!
Enjoy seeing your hopes and dreams being shattered in a cinema near to your place soon!
>>51262229
What kind of normal people even care about custom themes in Firefox? They're not likely to touch it.
>>51262263
Firefox is no simple users browser, i suggest you normal fags switch over to Chrome. It is because of people like you that Mozilla wants to be like Chrome. Fuck off!
I don't really use complete themes but if they're going to kill them they need to work on the lightweight themes so they can change more than the background of the tab strip. Most of the backgrounds look hideous and just make the tabs unreadable.
>>51262263
Stupid minimalist and simplicity design loving fag!
>>51262229
join the resistance....
https://www.palemoon.org/
>I need a bigger trashcan
No silly, you need a smaller one. You're all skinny now.
>>51262275
Firefox is free software. I am fine with Firefox thank you. I have never needed to touch the custom theme even once in my many years of Firefox.
>>51262312
Pale Moon? Once Mozilla moves away from Gecko to Servo, Pale Moon project can't backport stuff anymore.
I am either using Otter Browser or Vivaldi, depending which browser does not betray it's users!
Blink as an engine has a future, what Mozilla tries to create has none.
Sadly we move to a future where Google decides what is standard and what is draft.
We are already there partly. So why not giving in as it is anyway of no use. Still better than using anything official Mozilla, as they have no problem with betraying their userbase over and over again. Same like the fags of Opera had no trouble with such a "business decision"
>>51262312
within a year or two, palemoon will overtake firefox.
>>51262384
Stupid simple fags, get used to power user features or fuck off!
You guys who only care for minimalim and design should be removed from this world!
Minimalist fags earn no respect!
>>51262386
pale moon is moving away from goanna as well, by forking it into an engine of it's own called goanna. this way pale moon can cut it's ties with mozillas insane development.
https://www.palemoon.org/WIP/
>>51262386
Pale Moon can continue working with Gecko. What do you mean that Mozilla's next engine has no future? It's going to be like Gecko except it's multithreaded, it's going to keep track of the current web standards.
>>51262409
gecko....
>>51262384
During the Amiga age we would have smashed people like you who despise features and choice against the nearest wall while enjoying your suffering!
Stupid newskool computer generation, no brain but with a style fetish.....
>>51259279
lol u dumb. so is he tho
What about Seamonkey?
>>51262404
What about you? The source code is right there, it is the ultimate power user feature. You guys are bitching that other people are removing something that they don't want to maintain. Why don't you start using this ultimate user feature?
>>51262433
I don't despise features or choice. The source code is right there for you so you can have unlimited amount of features.
>>51257986
>mfw literally using the theme they use as the example of the themes that will not be allowed any more
I've been using FT Deepdark for literally years for the sole reason that it's the best theme and is not shitty like 99% of "lightweight" themes you fucking cock ass faggots
>>51262409
Friend, you do not have a clue do you? Goanna=Gecko - just renamed because of copyright issues. But it is still the same old Firefox 24 engine.
Without being able to easily port over security fixes from bugzilla, there would be no Pale Moon around. And Servo and Gecko/Goanna are 2 different things.
Once Servo is around, Pale Moon with Goanna is meeting it's end! Just wait and see!
Do you really believe the Pale Moon guys have the manpower to write bugfixes and features on their own? No! All they do is take code from Bugzilla, see if it can be used with Pale Moon and then refactoring it if possible. If it can't it can not be used. It is as simple as this!
>>51262480
So what's wrong with staying with Goanna and continually working it? Remember that the Palemoon guys are not doing new features. There will eventually be a mature version that only needs updating for security flaws.
>Browser themes are important.
I want 9 year olds to leave. Bet you wear ugly as shit graphic tees as your main clothing too.
>>51262447
>>51262447
They just want to create a Chrome clone to make users switch over to Firefox! This has nothing to do with maintaining things you fag!
Stupid fucking minimalist cunt! You should be pushed trough some mirrors with the head first!
Firefox was a power user browser and a browser for geeks! So why rewriting it for simple fags like you?
Why all software has to be changed to be fitting for you worthless fucktards needs? Just fuck you stupid fucking cunt! Asshole! FUCK OFF!!!!
>>51262384
>Firefox is free software. I am fine with Firefox thank you.
So is Chrome.
>>51262557
You're quite mad. Why don't you calm down and use Chrome from Google.
So what are we supposed to use once Firefox takes the final plunge and goes too far?
Pale Moon?
Iceweasel?
Icecat?
Waterfox?
Something else?
What are the differences here
>>51262386
Sadly we move to a future where Google decides what is standard and what is draft.
We are already there partly. So why not giving in as it is anyway of no use. Still better than using anything official Mozilla, as they have no problem with betraying their userbase over and over again.
>Bowing down to Google scooping up your browsing activity to sell to dodgy advertisers.
>>51262563
Chrome is non-free and all non-free software are not acceptable, thank you very much. Chromium is free so it's fine to fork that.
>>51262576
pale moon is the only option. Iceweasel/Icecat is GNU/Linux only and waterfox is made by one guy that rarely gets upates.
>>51262509
There is nothing wrong with it. My point is just that it is only a limited time possible seeing from now on. At some point there is no going forward anymore.
Features which can not be ported over because too complex:
1)MSE for Youtbe (not EME)
2)New Javascript engine
3)Promises
The list of what can not be ported forward and is essential for today's pages is much more longer than this list. Just some famous examples!
And more incompatibilities will arise. Stay as long with Pale Moon as it is working, but be assured that it will not be forever!
>>51262576
Icecat is going to mirror whatever Mozilla's Firefox does. The same is true for IceWeasel and Waterfox.
Firefox is fucking terrible yet Chrome is worse and I am too fucking spooked of Edge/IE (whatever its name is ffs) telemetry shit to use it.
Fucking Firefox 6-9 tabs 1% CPU usage but hogs about 800-1.1GB of my goddamn ram...
>>51262630
Something is wrong with your Firefox. That many tabs should be 500-700mb
about:config clock ticking
they want to control the UX right? We don't really need those options. Stats say 99% of people dont even use them!!1 We'll give you a nice options screen with 3 options about your advertisment personalization and degree of tracking (everything or just most, you decide!)
UX people, please change your career to take options away from other people, like perhaps human traffickers, and leave my computing alone. Streamline your ass-dildo collection not my browser.
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>>51262600
Anybody who is skilled enough to backport security fixes to Palemoon is also skilled enough to backport MSE to Palemoon. Remember, Firefox is written in C++ in proper OO style and OO style is designed to be easily modular, composible and extensible. People who have the aptitude to work at this level can get it done.
>>51262658
F U R R Y
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>>51262645
I have reinstalled 8.1 and 10 and it always fucking leaks memory. Always.
>>51262630
It's probably your set of extensions or corrupted Firefox profile. I use only three extensions without memory problem: Noscript, RequestPolicy and Cookies Manager+
>>51262670
install Linux Mint
>>51262571
Google Chrome i would never use. Google Chrome is the reason why Mozilla is doing all this what they are doing.
Without Google, no reason for Mozilla to be jealous because they have not that much users like Chrome has.
Mozilla should not try to compete with Google, there is no need for fighting a war they have lost from the beginning.
Instead they should be happy that power users once have chosen Firefox as state of the art, but that is for Mozilla not enough anymore. Simple fags are for them of more importance, but i am still waiting for the tons of Chrome users switching over to Firefox since Australis landed.
Guess what, non came over! How pathetic is that! And intead of understanding that that did not work out, they try to remove as much features until Chrome users come over in masses, but guess what...
It will not work!
>muh themes
>don't touch muh babby themes
dear gaylords, in case you haven't noticed firefox is the only decent free alternative in this shit botnet world
It's not good, it's good enough to not having chrome forced down our collective throats, so deal with it
>>51262677
I use uBlock Origin and Greasemonkey (only 4chan X script in Greasemonkey)
>>51262660
You believe that MSE was made by one person from Mozilla?
Remember this, there is only one capable developer working on Pale Moon - Moonchild!
The others have neither the skills to do that, smaller patches yes, but bigger things.. forget this.
For MSE there would be the need for at least 2-3 lead developers capable like Moonchild.
Let's talk on when they have those additional manpower! As long as they don't - no complex features are being ported over!
>>51262680
It won't work the way you're describing because that's not Mozilla's goal! Competing with Chrome and attracting Chrome users are not the reason why they do their work!
>>51262670
I use 7. Never had issues of this magnitude. Maybe it doesn't play nice with 8.1+.
Are you using the 64bit version?
>>51262600
https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml
There's probably no problem getting MSE in, but they don't want it (and I agree with that position myself).
>>51257986
>all /g/ does is bitch and moan about firefox fucking over support
>not creating a successor
fuck you keks
>>51262694
Another one of Mozillas die hard apologists!
So, you support feature less Firefox too in the future because it is not Google Chrome? Poor stupid cunt!
Grab a rope and end your life!
>>51262715
64bit 8.1 + 10
64bit Firefox on both
both pcs rock ublock origin and greasemonkey (with only script being 4chan x)
>>51262708
>look, ma, no brain!
I lol'd.
>>51262630
>>51262645
If you think FF memory management is bad, Chrome does it even worse.
It uses vastly more memory in total by running tabs as individual processes at 50 MB each, and forces every tab to load on session restoration whether you like it or not when FF makes that an option.
My FF session on average has 100 tabs, with 20 tabs active at one time. I'll take FF with 1GB memory usage over Chrome with 20 tabs alone.
>>51262708
The Palemoon team doesn't have to reimplement MSE, all they have to do is learn how the class interfaces to MSE work and then rip out all that code. Mozilla does the hard work of perfecting MSE, Palemoon only need to learn what code interfaces that the MSE class(es) need to touch.
>>51259380
>falling for the "hurr durr itz not open sorses so it must be botneet" meme
and before you accuse me of shilling, remember that people can simply have different opinions from yours
>>51262714
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>>51262229
>>51262205
Seriously though, stop samefagging.
>>51262746
The difference is that chrome has garbage memory management, but firefox outright leaks memory.
>>51262746
>'100 tabs/20 active tabs' FF using only 1GB ram
what the fuck lmao
>>51262729
Another one of Mozillas die hard apologists!
So, you support feature bloated Firefox too in the future because it is not Google Chrome? Poor stupid cunt!
Grab a rope and end your life!
>>51262714
Shut the fuck up Mozilla apologist! That is all Mozilla does care of you stupid fucking cunt! Grab a gund and shoot your brain out of your body you fucking Mozilla dick sucker!
Hope you like Mitchell Baker raping your ass into pieces, stupid transvestite cunt!
>>51262754
Nice try NSA shill.
>>51257986
They're also removing Hello and Pocket.
>>51262766
get fucked botnet shill
>>51262730
Windows 7
All in one sidebar
Ublock
Noscript
Site launcher
Restart
Greasemonkey
Stylish
Classic theme restorer
Search preview
YouTube link title
Appchan x
YouTube center
The most I ever see is like 700mb. Maybe it's cause I'm using Firefox Nightly.
I recommend the addon Restart. Lets you bind keys to restart function. I use ctrl + alt + /
>>51262761
You should see my FF session a couple months ago. 260 tabs. Been cleaning up the backlog since the WebExtensions shitstorm in an event I need to make any switch.
My DownloadThemAll backload is even worse.
>>51262758
And you Mozilla apologist, fuck up you worthless Chrome clone lover! Fucktard simple fag!
Subhuman, you worthless INSECT! Hope you enjoy being cocksucked by the Mozilla cunt developers!
Stupid whore, fucked of bitch, gay SJW asshole! Shove yourself a spoon in the nose and pull out your non existing brain you moron!
Fucktard, suck Mozilla cocks and swallow yourself into suicide!
>>51262781
you first google senpai desu
Just use an old version of developer edition or switch to a clone
>>51258556
Shit-tier form over function browser
>>51262797
people not only realize the 2nd-level meta in this but your methods work contrary to even that purpose. Perhaps speak truth from your heart to move others. Even if cynically, and in anger.
>>51262797
when autism speaks...
>>51262783
How on earth is that low memory use possible when my fucking Firefox goes to shit with 6+ tabs with only Ublock and Greasemonkey (with GM having only one script)
>>51262783
To add on, you can quickly restart in like 2 seconds every hour or so to prevent memory leak is the problem persists
>>51262759
Still, the fact that Chrome lacks the option to load restored tabs only on selection makes session reloads on Chrome fucking shit.
Why it never has that option I don't know.
>>51262834
It's a mozilla shill, just pretend he doesn't exist.
>>51262818
I have neither a heart nor i have feelings! I just shit on others because i can!
And if it is a bunch of Chrome clone Australis lovers, then i am glad to shit an even bigger sausage on their heads!
Mozilla has no right anymore to exist after their user betrayal. Same like Opera.
Both developer groups should stuffed in one big building and it should burned to ground afterwards! Does perhaps solve no overpoulation of this fucked planet, bit at least there would be a bunch of cocksuckers less on earth!
>>51262829
.. When an Australis Chrome clone lover and minimalist design loving fag is allowed to stay alive...
>>51258543
I,ll ring up /pol/...
>>51262864
>thank you, 0,005 dollars have been deposited on your Google Wallet™ account
>>51262771
>hurr durr I'm a zombie that only listens to opinions of a board on 4chan and can't think for myself
you're no better than a big chunk of the American population, the only difference is you're brainwashed by an even less powerful entity.
>>51257986
final nail on the coffin.
time to lower it into the ground.
>>51258556
As soon as they implement tree-style tabs.
It's on the list, it's just not done yet.
I'm moving as soon as it happens.
muh FT Deepdark
>>51261091
If everyone is shit but you're less shit you're the best but you're still not good
If we all sat an exam, and I got 20%, and all of you got 10%, my mark is the best but it's still a heavy fail.
>>51263039
It is a nice theme. I wonder if the devs could just make an addon for the theme instead.
Firefox just keeps getting worse and worse with every new release. It's been like this ever since version 4. I'll probably switch to palemoon eventually.
>>51258543
It feels like every release does more things nobody wants. Chrome UI update, followed by chat extension integration, pocket integration, advertisements in speed dial, removing new tab page, adopting Chrome extensions, and now removing theme support.
When was the last time Mozilla did something to improve Firefox?
>>51261273
Actually, palemoon wins the real olympics whereas firefox, chrome, and opera are competing in the retard olympics, and qupzilla, iridium, xombrero, uzbl, etc. are competing in the junior retard olympics.
>>51257986
>great or dead initiative
This explains a lot.
They are ending it, making each release worse to soften the blows and have people slowly move on to better browsers.
>>51263300
per-tab mute. That's the only good feature they added since firefox 3.6.
>>51258556
>it uses no memory
>>51257986
Jesus fucking christ, they are fucking idiots if they think this is a smart move. I'd be looking for a new job ASAP if I worked for Mozilla right now. Decisions like this are always followed by more bad decisions and layoffs.
Ever since the SJW showed their true colors and had Brandon completely removed from Firefox by meals of bullying and bigotry Firefox has gotten worse and worse.
This isn't a co-incidence. Employing women, trannies and niggers makes things go to shit.
A lot of women and niggers work on OpenSUSE.. It's fucking awful.
A lot of White men work on chromium (Even ones paid by Google who are also Gentoo developers) and it's great.
Microsoft hires sand niggers for non business/enterprise and it sucks. If you're paying with business though you get straight through to white men who know what the fuck they are doing.
None of this is coincidence.
Women are weak physically and mentally, incapable of logical and rational thinking.
Niggers are dumb and violent.
Trannies are mentally ill.
I'll never install Firefox ever again.
>>51258543
>>51262877
>>51263291
>Smedberg
Not /pol/, but Norwegian reporting. I seriously doubt he's a kike, Smedberg translates to blacksmith hill/mountain. Berg is a pretty common surname here in the Northern Caliphate and it does not relate to kikery at all.
>>51259513
Try Firefox 24 ESR faggot, it's far more secure.
>browser themes
>Themes
No big deal.
But touch Stylish or even just CTR, and it's a different thing.
Also, did they already remove support to the old extension in favour of chrome extensions?
As soon as I read the news months ago I disabled auto updates, but I don't know how much I'm risking on the security side, to be honest.
Now I'm still on ff40 and getting prompts every day to update it. Give it a rest, Mozilla.
>>51263639
Is there still an installer for ff24 anywhere?
#REKT firekeks
Well fuck me. Firefox pactically NEEDS to be themed to be usable, unless you like having extra thick toolbars. Customization was what made me fall in love with Firefox in the first place, along with being able to run it portably. Now, there's not gonna be a god damn browser left that offers the tweakability I demand. I may as well welcome the botnet with open arms and start using Chrome.
>>51263688
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest-24.0esr/
It should have the same security and bug fixes as FF32 at least
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>>51260758
fricking frickers
