/g/, I need a new music player.
Been using a Clip+ with rockbox for years, but it got all crashy and now I can't boot to rockbox or sansa firmware (they freeze during startup). As such I can't connect to the device in any way. I really loved the thing, and I just can't justify buying a new one as it's $50 for something so outdated.
I'd like something with the same sort of open functionality, preferably something rockbox compatible. FLAC/MP3 is all that matters, mic and radio unimportant. No hard drives, solid state only please.
What do you use for music? No phones, please.
Solitary bump
Tried fucking everything.
-holding left during rockbox boot
-holding select during sansa boot
-plug to start sansa, unplug during logo screen
Rockbox freezes during v3.10 splash
Sansa freezes during "flower" logo splash
Currently trying to run down the battery, but its hard as it shuts down after ~5 minutes of idling on splashscreen.
Can't connect it to my computer, can't abort normal boot. All this together effectively softlocks it. A goddamn shame.
Get a used iPod 5.5G and install the latest version of rockbox on it. Mines a tank, and holds 80gb
>inb4 Apple shilling
5th IPod was back when they were good.
Why not just use your android phone? Honestly what does an ancient obsolete mp3 player have that your modern note 4/ moto g doesn't? You also get to play Opus files on android phones as well.
I had a Clip. Sweet little deal, but it was no match for my washer
>>51257500
I don't know apple products at all. Is that solid state? Battery life is very important to me.
You could hunt down a good old iPod Classic. I don't have mine on me at the moment, but it held 120 GB IIRC. You just have to patch some things to make it work with outside sources.
>>51257505
I don't own a smartphone. Call me old fashioned, but the clip+ is my sort of device. Small, simple, huge potential for features (rockbox), extreme battery life.
I like a device that does one thing very well. Modern smartphones do many things but very poorly IMO, so they're not for me.
>>51257517
Rockbox completely un-rekt the battery. Mine goes two weeks on a charge.
Not solid state, hard drive. If you want solid state Rockbox player get a sansa e200r.
Ex-rockbox dev here.
>>51257555
2 weeks? Impressive. What was that patch you were talking about?
>>51257570
That wasn't me, but just go look up the iPod video 5.5g on rockbox wiki.
Needs a patch as well as rockbox, patch is ipodpatcher. Might have been what other anon was referring to.
I tracked down a black NWZ-A15 walkman (apparently black is discontinued for the US market, had to get one shipped from Hong Kong through amazon but it showed up in half the time they said it would) runs you about $250 has about 15 gigs, but has a micro SD slot so its a non issue. I love the thing, plays FLACs and makes MP3s sound pretty good too.
>>51257624
>NWZ-A15
>I totally had the older version of that in high school and it was amaxing
>goddamn washing machine
>>51257551
>I like a device that does one thing very well. Modern smartphones do many things but very poorly IMO, so they're not for me.
It's the future though, smartphones will soon replace nearly everything except maybe tablets, desktops and servers. x86 phones are gaining popularity and people have even found ways to run windows 7 on them.
MP3 players are considered old and ancient technology, you gotta let them go anon. You should give a smartphone a try soon, they perform many things nicely if you put in the effort to understand them. Battery life for music playback on most 3,000 mAh phones is like 24 hours+ too.
>>51257345
Walkman A10/20 series.
>>51257669
Work gave me an iPhone 4s and I hate the goddamn thing. Can't type, can't even copy and paste properly. It's bulky, it's fragile, and it can't touch the functionality of rockbox.
The thing I hate the most is that I have to charge it EVERY DAY. I thought it was broken when they gave it to me. What a fuckin' pain. 24+ hours? I'm going to need at least a week, bruh.
I don't like using smartphones. I don't want a smartphone. I want something for my tunes. That's it. Please don't derail thread.
>>51257649
I had the old one and then I lost it when I moved so I decided to upgrade. New one is almost the same in every way except that there is no touch screen, and everything that made the old one good is even better in the new one.
>>51257345
>2015
>using mp3s
>>51257721
Mine was older than that. I had the version before this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003Z3JRHQ/ref=pe_55700_21489510_pe_vfe_dt8
Get an iPod Classic or Video iPod and replace the HDD with a CF or SDHC/XD card. Then install rockbox.
>>51257739
found it: NWZ-S616F
Why not just burn all your music to cds and play them on a portable cd player? Much more simpler imho
>>51257505
>two seconds of battery
>no parametric EQ
shit
>>51257714
>I don't like using smartphones. I don't want a smartphone.
dam, you sound just like my uncle. How long did that clip plus last you anyway?
>>51257845
Both of those points are a lie, at least for android phones.
>>51257860
Sorry, dude. I like a device that does one thing well. My cell calls and texts. My music player plays music. combined they take up less volume, have way more battery life, less mass, are much more durable, than a smartphone. Not to mention I could buy a new one of each every month for the price of a smartphone contract.
>>51257624
$250 for A15?
I spent that on A16 and it was a special edition.
Fiio X1 is a pretty solid DMP
OK well thanks everyone for the leads.
what about the new non-sansa version?
>>51258264
Sandisk infuriates me. Years ago they created one of the greatest mp3 players at an amazing price point, discontinue it, and proceed to release garbage that can't even compare to the Clip+ (it doesn't help that half of the Clip+ appeal was that it had a stable Rockbox to make up for Sansa's awful native firmware). Spend five minutes on Amazon and you'll see thousands begging to bring back the Clip+, whose price point is now approaching twice its original value.
>>51258700
And before anyone brings up the expired chip, it's not just that. The build quality and firmware of the newer models are either worse than or roughly equal to the Clip+.
>>51258700
Really? Damn
After spending a long time in the smart phone camp I want to get a dedicated music player and I was hopping that one was okey
>>51258738
plebs use their portable surveillance-beacons for music-playback.
>>51258264
no rockbox
>>51257345
Bought one of these
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/351439725542
Not gonna complain for $5
>>51258793
I had one of those for a while because it was cheap. The sound quality was what you'd expect (like a 64kbps mp3)
>>51257345
Lotoo PAW 5000. It isn't cheap, but I've been drooling over it since I saw it on massdrop.
>>51258999
>$299.99
Fuuuuuuuuuuuk that
>>51257345
The Sansa clip is worth it. Just buy a refurbished one for like $25.
I got mine for $25 and added a larger battery for $6 and now have the 128gb sd card. I use it mostly for my car.
>>51257555
Why is the layout for the clip+ so fucking retarded?
>go to artists
>first selection all tracks
>second selection random
If i wanted tracks or random I wouldn't have fucking gone to artists in the first fucking place!!
Zune HD but no flac :(
>>51259043
I thought rockbox only supported up to 32gb microSD cards
>>51259043
also please give details / links for battery upgrade
>>51259158
I'm using a 64gb card, you only need to format it as FAT32 and you're good to go.
>>51257880
A smartphone battery doesn't last a week.
I suppose with all the clip+ users in here it'd be a good place to ask:
How do I unbrick this thing? I've troubleshot and worked the forums all day.
Rockbox freezes on startup splash
Sansa does the same
See first posts for more details
At this point I don't care if I have to format. I just want to be able to interface with it.
>>51259261
You should try disconnecting the battery
>>51259502
how do i even take this thing apart
>>51259532
Google it
>>51257345
iPod Classic with mSATA SSD
>>51257911
>Not to mention I could buy a new one of each every month for the price of a smartphone contract.
Look at budget off-cobtract smartphones. Moto G, OnePlus X, etc.
I'm starved for space for music on my portables. I have an ipod touch 4th gen 64GB. All my music is mp3 320kbps CBR converted from FLAC source material on my desktop. I'm considering converting to a different codec and or bitrate to try to save more space. I don't have very many options. Is AAC better than mp3 and should I be using VBR instead of CBR?
I will not get a Clip or any other portable media device. Only the ipod can interface with my car stereo over USB allowing me to use the media buttons and search through it while driving. This is a deal-breaker. There is technically an Android app so it can work with Android phones but it's a buggy mess because apparently Kenwood doesn't give a shit about Android users. I do not want to use a device over AUX as once again I cannot use the stereo to change songs.
Lossless formats are not supported and I don't have the space anyway. Vorbis is unfortunately not supported either.
>>51259651
>Lossless formats are not supported
ALAC
AIFF
>>51259681
Sorry you're right. I should have specified it's just FLAC that's not supported because Apple hates freedom.
>>51259690
>Apple hates freedom
ALAC's licensed under the Apache license.
>>51259651
Convert to AAC VBR. 0.5 or 0.6 for quality setting. Anything above that is pretty much placebo (convert to a bunch of different qualities and do a blind test in foobar or something)
>>51259729
Whatever. It's just semantics and doesn't answer my question.
>>51259756
It doesn't, but it does correct you where you were wrong
>>51259783
I could not give less of a fuck you autistic twat.
>>51259793
>be wrong about tech on a tech board
>get upset when corrected
Why are you here?
>>51259820
To get my question answered.
>>51257500
>>51257555
>>51257624
I have a buddy selling both the 6th gen iPod classic 160gb and the sony NWZ-A15 at comparable prices; about 150usd for the iPod and 130 for the sony. any pointers which ones to go for? The iPod seemed like a steal but i dont know how the battery life would compare
>>51260004
Given the battery's not shot, the iPod Classic battery lasts for ~40hrs of playback (and that's before you upgrade it with an SSD)
>>51260015
thanks man
>>51260127
meant for
>>51260015
>>51260015
That is considerably shorter than the A15.It gets 60-80 depending on music type.
A15 has a max of 16+128gb though.
>>51260004
I would say iPod if you plan on opening it and sticking a new battery and SSD in it, A15 otherwise.
Test
>>51257345
I bought a 32gb Sony Walkman NWZ-X1061 back in 2009, and it's still going good. Long battery life and physical buttons on it are great.
It was pretty expensive when I got it new, but you should be able to find a used one for cheap.
>>51257345
Every time my Clip+ got broke or lost (due to my own mistakes), I just bought a new one.
>Outdated
How is it outdated and how is that relevant? What changed about your music habits that made it so outdated? Did your music files get bigger, or do they need more processing power?
Why has no one come up with a rockbox-like ROM that would turn your useless old android phone into a single purpose DAP? I have a nexus lying on a scaffold and I d love to see it become a beautiful player with a nice interface and all
>>51257345
mp3 is deprecated
>>51257345
>What do you use for music?
My phone.
I have a 3rd gen iPod Touch that has lasted me for years and years now. Its pretty great, its so unsupported by apple at this point, that you can very easily just drag and drop mp3's into the Music like an android device
>>51263347
wait, really?
fuck, i want to sell my 5g Touch (i hate using itunes) but fuck, i love it! But i need money for my trip!
damn
>>51259203
My old Nexus One had the extended bulky ass 3800mah battery that lasted me almost 6 days.
If I'm looking to pick up an iPod classic which generation should I be looking at?
>>51257551
The argument that cramming more features into one device makes it unable to perform those functions well is pure shit, lol. Did cars get worse at driving when they got automatic transmissions or antilock brakes? Did airplanes stop flying when the first jet engine was built? Shut the fuck up.
>>51263574
It isn't more features, it is more functions.
Di you notice that flying cars and boat cars never took off?
That is because they are bad noats/planes and bad cars.
>>51257911
>I like a device that does one thing well
The irony in your argument is that the devices you want do less, worse.
>>51259043
>The Sansa clip is worth it. Just buy a refurbished one for like $25.
have you checked their prices in the last couple of months? 25 lol
>>51257345
Give up on rockbox compatibility. All rockboxable devices are out of production and so expensive as all hell.
>>51259731
>Convert to AAC VBR.
AAC is VBR by default, shithead.
>>51259532
>>>/b/
>>51263073
>Take Android-phone
>Pull out the SIM
there's your single-purpose Android DAP. your welcome.
>>51263786
>$57.85 on ebay
fug
>>51257345
Wish I could get a new Clip+. I can't, so my girlfriend's giving me her old Galaxy S3 and I've bought a 128GB mSD. Should be pretty gud :DDDD
