How much of a difference windows 10 actually makes for AMD driver
You are currently reading a thread in /g/ - Technology
How much of a difference windows 10 actually makes for AMD driver CPU overhead?
I have an FX-8350 at 4.7GHz with a 390X and I get CPU bottle-necked even in properly multi-threaded games like Crysis 3 and GTA 5.
Would taking the Microsoft bait and joining the Windows 10 botnet actually help significantly due to WDDM 2.0? Or are the gains in the lower than 10% range?
>>51248258
No gains, if anything everything DX11 and older performs worse.
You'll lust for Windows cock as soon as good DX12 titles start coming around though.
>>51248258
Windows 10 runs smoother than 7 and 8 for me on my 8320.
But no significant improvements
>>51248258
it doesn't at all, AMD isn't optimizing for dx11 in order to make their dx12 numbers look better
Crap. I had hope it would make a significant enough difference.
It seems I'll be able to dodge Windows 10 for a while more. Hopefully Vulkan gets enough adoption I don't have to deal with Win 10 ever.
Thanks for the answers.
You sound like a Windows XP user never wanting to make the jump to Windows 7
>>51248951
You mean a Windows XP user never wanting to make the jump to Windows Vista.
Windows 10 is a lot better than 8, but it's still full of retarded shit.
>>51248258
>amd cpu
>gaming
>>51248258
>amd
>gta
>>51248258
I gained almost 10fps on my i7 860 and gtx 670. But then nvidia drivers started fuging up so I sold the 670 for extra money.
I'd say if your cpu is a bottleneck just get w10. There's a script someone uploaded that you just run(bat file) that debloats w10 and improves performance even more.
>>51248258
Provided you're not playing on a way too low resolution for your graphics card, you really shouldn't have CPU bottlenecking with that processor.
>>51250427
wat. my fx 6300 gives me an average of 60fps
>>51250427
honest question, unless you're maxing cpu usage, why would performance be different at all?
>>51250541
1080p 60fps. I get CPU bottlenecks that dip me bellow 60fps in quite a few properly multithreaded games.
>>51250574
You must have lower settings. My 8350 is unable to maintain 60fps reliably with max draw distance (no extended draw distance). And its running at 4.7GHz.
>>51250662
If the cpu is the bottleneck, changing the settings shouldn't affect fps much. In fact, on a cpu bottleneck you might see slight gains at higher settings and higher resolutions.
>>51250736
Some settings will put a strain on the CPU. Draw distance is one of them. The more objects, the more draw calls, the more CPU cycles needed.
>>51250641
differences in architecture, mostly instructions per clock and the implementation of complex instructions that can take lots of cycles (latency)
>>51250787
I upgraded all my devices sans one to windows 10. Gave me an extra 4-7 fps on my laptop with an i5 3230m and hd 7670m coming from w8.1, gave me an 8-11 fps boost on my desktop desktop with an i7 860 and gtx 670 coming from windows 7.
It just works better.
And if you don't like it you can just downgrade? A fresh install is always nice for smooth performance. Backup, update, enjoy your better performing system.
>>51250854
My isn't 100% usage, the upgrade still helped me.
It's like if an i5 2500 isn't 100% usage why would an upgrade to an i5 4460 improve your framerate?
>>51248258
>I have an FX-8350 at 4.7GHz with a 390X and I get CPU bottle-necked even in properly multi-threaded games like Crysis 3 and GTA 5.
How?
I have a FX-8350 at stock clock and I don't see any sign of being bottlenecked in GTA V. I have a GTX970 memecard.
>>51250854
But if you're GPU bound, the fact your CPU is slower shouldn't matter. Its still fast enough to keep the GPU busy.
>>51250916
>I have a GTX970 memecard.
There's the answer. When it comes to CPU overhead Nvidia's dx11 driver is miles ahead AMD's.
>>51250916
Amd cards work best with Intel CPUs because reasons.
Nvidia cards with great with AMD cpu though.
>>51250662
What is your CPU usage while playing these games?
>>51251608
Around 70% when frames begin to drop due to the CPU in GTA 5, closer to 80% with Crysis 3. No core sticks out though, they all have roughly the same usage.
It does make me wonder what kind of CPU bottleneck I'm hitting, and if faster RAM could help.
>CPU bottle-necked
>With an FX-8350
Horse fucking shit, games don't even fully utilize my i5-2500K @ 4.2Ghz.
>have 8320
>upgrade to memecard from 270x
>only gain around 5 fps
amd cpu never again for gaming
>>51251997
Ive always wondered this. I have a 2500k @ 4.5ghz and I feel like its becoming a bottleneck for games. This rig is like what 4-5 years old now? I have a gtx970 meme edition and I still get reduced frame rates in certain games and don't think I can even crank up all games. Granted it probably has a lot to do with drivers and whatnot.
I remember when Tomb Raider came out it was developed with amd and I had two gtx460's in sli and I had to turn it down to like medium to barely get 25fps. I beat the game like that, then literally like a week later nvidida releases the updated drivers and I go back into the game and am getting like 80fps with everything on high.
But yeah, idk if this cpu is bottlenecking or what. How can I check this other than using the cpu uptilization monitor during gameplay?
>>51250962
>Amd cards work best with Intel CPUs because reasons.
>Nvidia cards with great with AMD cpu though.
[citation needed]
>>51251997
I kid you not. I can turn on things like MSAA and still get the very same FPS. I'm being CPU bottlenecked, no doubt.
Since I don't actually get 100% CPU usage, I think I'm hitting a cache/branch prediction bottleneck, in which Bulldozer is know to under-perform at.
I have 1866MHz memory, so I wonder if faster memory would help.
>>51253091
>I have 1866MHz memory, so I wonder if faster memory would help.
unlikely.
>>51248258
Windows 10 is optimised for more threads, you should see a decent improvement.
>>51250401
Wahhh change hurts me too bad. Please don't make games that don't run on Win98 because everything more recent is full of useless crap
>>51253653
>>51250662
Same here I have a 8350 and it cannot maintain 60 fps with similar settings on my heavily OC 970
>inb4the amd shills over run me with the bottlenecked by vram meme
>>51253842
If you have updated drivers the vram shouldn't be an issue.
Make sure there are no parked cores, and in what games?
Older games rely more heavily on single thread performance, newer games (2012 onwards) should be fine for the fx processors.