How come OS X and iOS are the only OS'es that 'just werk'? What prevents other OS'es to work as well?
>>47650773
I installed Archlinux and it just werk'd 4 me
>>47650773
-2/10
>>47650773
a fixed, limited range of hardware?
Go home, Apple, you're drunk.
IOS is crashing everything right now
>>47650773
They don't 'just werk', but buyer's remorse and marketing and circlejerks are strong.
Actually, for most users, I think Android 'just werks' better in most cases.
other OSes have to support thousands of different components, many of which are out of spec because they're made by chinks who penny-pinch everything and cut corners. that's why Windows crashes a lot and who do users blame? Microsoft. never mind they purchased some chink shit that's fake and was made during nightshift at some factory when no one was looking.
second problem is closed drivers for hardware and that's the Achilles heel of Linux. so Linux ppl have to reverse engineer everything and many times they make mistakes because they just don't know how some shit works.
apple controls everything: HW + SW and they buy quality components so they can spend time making sure shit works right.
that's apple's secret, in a nutshell.
>>47650773
imo, its that apple has the same user experience across all platforms, more or less... and data entered into said platforms is all available vial the cloud.
its nothing new or amazing, but it is branded, simple, and like i said, cloud storage across every platform.
you can have a similar experience with microsoft, but not as good looking or branded. all other platforms, phones, tablets, ect you cant really have a unified cloud solution, unless you purchase 3rd party software and set it up on your pc/tablet/device.
So it doesnt "just work"
but....
google / chrome os / google devices will have just as much cloud integration and data unity
also, Microsoft will try to catch up.
(i still hate apple and that faggot steve)
("it just works" results in stupid consumers and oversimplified software designed to be used by retards with zero freedoms or customization)
(fuck you im allowed to have an opinion)
Sold my iPad mini 2 because it was just a glorified pdf reader and it pains me how i can get shit done more with my $100 zenfone. Installed Yosemite on my PC, but never really boot to it anymore. There are so many little things that piss me on OSX.
>>47650861
>other OSes have to support thousands of different components
i dont think "it just works" is referring to hardware issues that phones or other computers/os's run into. its a marketing campaign. if you go into an apple store and ask what that is supposed to mean, its about a unified and simple experience.
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>>47650862
Low quality b8
iOS just warks because you've got the hardware and software being developed by the same group, and only a couple of relevant devices at a time, it doesn't update often, and only whitelisted apps can go to the store.
Meanwhile Android has phones and tablets are made from dozens of different companies running the gamut on hardware specs, has minor to major updates frequently, and a freer app market, which includes apps that are broken, or will be broken by an update, or sometimes rendered completely unusable.
>>47650907
>i dont think "it just works" is referring to hardware issues that phones or other computers/os's run into. its a marketing campaign. if you go into an apple store and ask what that is supposed to mean, its about a unified and simple experience.
well, that's true too.
>>47650901
>Sold my iPad mini 2
you never owned it. quit making shit up kid.
>it pains me how i can get shit done more with my $100 zenfone.
like what?
>>47650773
>OS X and iOS
>just werk
>>47650918
>Meanwhile Android has phones and tablets are made from dozens of different companies running the gamut on hardware specs, has minor to major updates frequently, and a freer app market, which includes apps that are broken, or will be broken by an update, or sometimes rendered completely unusable.
What the fuck are you smoking? Android is NOTORIOUS for manufacturers not giving a fuck about your upgrades once you purchase the device. That's why Android is fragmented as fuck and antique versions of Android still rule and are the majority of marketplace.
>>47650861
>apple controls everything: HW + SW
And yet is still the most flawed, buggy, unstable PoS UNIX clone in history.
>>47650929
Like decent multitasking
>>47650793
>>47650861
Funny you should mention hardware. Apple hardware has a shit ton of issues. Hell, just the other day at IT I learned about two new ones for the 16" Macbook or whatever that model is called:
1) The ribbon connector for the hard drive is prone to failure (as in, 80% chance once the warranty expires). Feel free to pay Apple $300 for replacement (The actual ribbon only costs $20-ish, if you can find one for purchase).
2) The disc drive can get misaligned with the slot on the casing, resulting in discs getting stuck. Thankfully, the model I was working on still used screws so I could take it apart. Having to disassemble the machine to remove a CD is a Feature (c).
>>47650930
I can see a macfag rebuttal
>Like anyone can type that fast. You arent even typing any words. Its not a problem and you're just trying to overload the phone on purpose!
I just installed Fedora 21, a GNU+Linux distribution, and it "just werk'd". Installation was easy as hell and all I had to do was typesudo yum updatein the GNOME terminal and everything updated just like that. Then I tweaked the font rendering with gnome-tweak-tool a little bit to make it look less shitty. That was basically it, no hassle! :^)
>>47650952
Did they keep the gloss on the spinning beach ball? I hope it didn't get a flatter make over with lighter and brighter colors.
>>47650773
OSX and iOS "just werk" because everything is locked down. Most features "break" because the user configured something incorrectly. If there's nothing to configure it can't be broken.
>>47651578
lol'd. it will break with then next update. and good luck getting your xorg.conf working between video card/kernel updates!
been there, done that... and gave up on Linux a year ago.
linux is a time sink OS and everything's free as long as your time's worthless. if you have dozens of hours to spend tracking down issues, it might be worth it to you. if you plan on making money with it, hahaahah... good fucking luck! you'll be babysitting you OS more than you'll be working on something.
>>47651669
I'm not using AMD or nvidia for graphics, just the intel IGPU
its survived through 3.17 to 3.18 completely fine
>>47650773
Apple devices werk for simple people who just need a device for web browsing and office apps.
If your a; gamer, someone who likes to upgrade your hardware (and I mean actually upgrade it and not buy a new device), someone who likes to try new OS's, or need backwards compatibility for anything, go with Microsoft and Android products.
I work in IT and for my job I need a virtualized test environment. To run all my VMs I have desktop with 64gigs of RAM and my VMs virtual hard drives are stored on a ssd raid 0 array (they're backed up I just want performance). I know I'm a rare case, but Apple has no solution for me. OSX doesn't support what I want to do. It doesn't werk for me and it never will.
>>47651754
.. till it just stops working one day soon.
>>47651800
idk man it was going strong for about 4 months being regularly updated
i hope you're not TOTALLY basing this off of your experience with gnu+linux
>>47651600
Nope, it's still glossy-ish.
>just werks
>ffs it can't even maintain an internet radio stream without hitting 155º
>Finder crashes regularly
>nice maymay dude.
>>47650773
marketing
>>47651928
dont forget the lag on anything but the latest computers in YoSemite
>>47651928
>runs hackintosh
>complains about shit not working
instead of being a poor nigger who can't afford a real mac, maybe you should get a job and shitpost less, kiddo.
>>47650773
You know what, FUCK APPLE.
I've been a loyal Apple Fanboy FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I had the first iPod
I had the first iPhone
I had the first iPad
and so on.
And now with the fucking watch, I stayed up until 2:00am to preorder the thing, paid a ridiculous $700 dollars for it, plus $69 for the warranty, WITHOUT EVEN SEEING THE FUCKING THING
ALL SO I COULD HAVE IT ON LAUNCH DAY AND GUESS WHAT!? EVERYONE ELSE'S SEEMS TO BE SHIPPING BUT NOT MINE.
At least they charged me for the added warranty. On a watch I don't even have yet .
You were right.
FUCK APPLE.
>>47650811
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i love working on osx but ios is a big joke
>>47652792
>I stayed up until 2:00am to preorder the thing, paid a ridiculous $700 dollars for it, plus $69 for the warranty
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>>47650773
The same reason why xbone games work on all xbone hardware.
>>47652835
That's more than your shitty chinkpad :^)
>>47651928
Finder has never crashed on my hackintosh!
>>47652882
>this is what iToddlers actually believe
>>47650952
>UNIX clone
It's not a clone. It's just plain Unix.
>>47652910
>>47652929
>It's just plain Unix.
>>47650773
hated apple ever since they released the stupid round mouse with one button that they kept all through the 90's and into to 00's. i will never go back to a design over substance product.
>>47652929
>mactards don't even know what OS they're using
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>>47652958
It is, you dumb faggot. It's based on BSD and has the Unix certification.
>>47650773
differences in hardware and software
apple products are almost dumb terminals
>>47652976
>mactards actually think BSD is unix
>>47652976
Please go be a technology illiterate retard somewhere else.
iOS has issues with all kinds of stuff. i'd go as far as to say that it just doesn't work
>>47652792
wow you are such a sucker why would you even?
>>47652997
>typical level of /g/ technology knowledge
Go back to looking at your cartoon strippers and playing your gaymes on your "battlestation".
>>47652997
>>47653006
This is pretty shitty trolling I must say.
>>47652997
It is.
>>47651343
This.
My sisters been going through apple hell every 2 months because a different part keeps breaking.
>Woops there goes the hard drive
>Woops motherboards dead
>This time theres a giant line down the middle of the screen
>Hard drives dead again
>Apple support got fucking tired of dealing with her so they gave her an entire new macbook pro
>woops the keyboard stopped working
>Hard drives dead
>Mousepad stopped working
>Wifi adapter only works half the time
I don't even know how they do it.
>>47653058
>>47653061
>>47652976
>>47652929
Why are mactards universally drooling mongoloid morons?
>>47653081
>mactards think unix-likes are UNIX
>>47653089
Doesn't change the fact that it's based on Unix and that it has the fucking UNIX CERTIFICATION. IT IS OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED UNIX.
>>47653102
>linfags think they are running a unix machine
>>47653109
>mactards don't even know what UNIX certification means
>>47651343
>The disc drive can get misaligned with the slot on the casing, resulting in discs getting stuck. Thankfully, the model I was working on still used screws so I could take it apart. Having to disassemble the machine to remove a CD is a Feature (c).
macbooks don't have HDDs or optical drives. Nor do they use a ribbon connector for the SSD.
>>47653121
>>47653117
>>47653109
>>47653102
what the fuck is unix anyway
>>47650773
I just got so fed up with OSX that I replaced it with Debian on a mbp. Even though it's not working 100% the way that it should be, I am happy. OS X is a fucking turd. Tiger was the last good OS X.
>2015
>be me
>haven't browsed "/g/ - computer gayming" in almost a year and a half
>get bored on the overnight shift
>"why not check out /g/?"
>see this thread
>/g/ is still whining about other people's operating systems
it's like i never left
stay classy, fa/g/s.
>>47653192
basically it's windows before linux (or microsoft) existed. it was an os that was cool as fuck and super fucking expensive, so everyone ripped it off and called their os "unix-like".
Eventually MS showed up with DOS and Windows and it wasn't like Unix so everyone was pissed and faggots... but also it wasn't based on old as fuck.
why is it still OS X? they've been stuck on X forever
>>47650773
How come mactards are the only people that fall for the 'just werks' scam? What prevents other people from falling for it?
>>47653276
if they didn't fall for it then they wouldn't be mactards
>>47653192
A proprietary OS that everyone and their grandma copied.
>>47653262
OSXI looks stupid.
OSX still looks good.
as text, i mean. it's all marketing. I bet they're going to drop the X part with the next release. Mac OS Drought, given that california is going to be a barren wasteland in 6 months.
>>47653276
>What prevents other people from falling for it?
Having an IQ over 70.
>>47653276
Because there is some truth in it when you back it up with the "apple decides hardware and software" argument
But being encouraged to make less choices is a turnoff to me, especially when they're shilling a product that does the same as the competition at 2-3X the price
>>47653309
>Because there is some truth in it when you back it up with the "apple decides hardware and software" argument
That was never true.
>>47653309
fewer choices.
>>47653085
Maybe your sister should stop to use it for camwhoring and squirting all over it
>>47653341
She's been having a hard time controlling her bladder post-op.
