If they have the best hardware, why don't we just put linux on macbooks?
OS X is already certified Unix.
>>47580791
>best hardware
GTFO shill.
A Macbook is more than just the hardware. I bought a Macbook because I love the aesthetic design. The engineering effort that goes into an Apple product is amazing, and people ignore it because it uses consumer hardware you could find in other computers. It's insane and it's ignorant.
Using OSX is part of the complete package. A beautifully designed aluminum Macbook with an esquisite operating system, that's Unix-based (and I can develop HAPPILY on) and with a UI that was made with time and care. This wasn't a rushed product made by developers contributing to some FOSS project.
That's how I feel. Take it or leave it. As for price.... Apple has an entire team for just making it look pretty. There's a lot of money that comes from the extra effort they do in this part. If you can afford a Macbook, buy it. If not, then don't. But to judge others for spending a little more on a Macbook rather than a lot less on a plastic Thinkpad that they can put Windows or Linux on is not cool. If that's what you want, then you can have it. I like Thinkpads. But I sure as hell wouldn't judge someone for buying a Macbook.
>>47580876
If you just want Linux then you really should just use a cheaper laptop. If you already have a Mac, I guess it's fine.
A Macbook is an integrated product. Everything works together as it is. I think that's dandy and that's Apple's philosophy. You should just see it as it is rather than be upset that it's not some other company or group's philosophy.
>>47580876
>pic related
It's an ugly hand drawn message on Gimp. Hardly a fair judgement. Although that DE isn't good. There's a lot of them though.
>>47580791
I'll do it if you tell me why. What useful thing can I accomplish that I can't already do as well on my mac?
>>47580791
>best hardware
The newest Macbooks have 1.2ghz quad core CPU's that can "safely" overclock to 2.7ghz.
In 2009 you could get a Q6600 quad core 2.6ghz for a decent price.
>>47580902
Well people say KDE is the best looking but then you install it and get >>47580884
Then you have to rice it before it gets anywhere close to decent, which I still find horrible most of the time.
OSX is a simple design, but is easy on the eyes.
>>47580791
Why would you put the worst software on the best hardware?
Price
Because Linux is not a desktop operating system. Deny it all you want but you know it in your heart that it's the gospel truth. This is not to bash Linux or anything it's just that unixes were developed in the 60s and were meant for mainframes and tape-based OSes. GNU/Linux does little to change that.
If you want to use an extensible open source desktop then support Haiku Project.
why would i install gnu/linux if i already hace an unix-certified os that actually has programs
>spend $2000 on Mac
>put Linux with this on it
Why?
>>47580791
Because it has botnet in its hardware
>>47580802
/thread
>>47581048
The whole "We're going to use tons of our own API's/standards, and our own special display server" thing kind of negates the Unix certified stuff.
>>47580989
Welcome to /g/ newfriend.
>>47580989
>bash Linux
I c wut u did there
>>47581187
Thanks dude but I've already been here for a while
>>47581236
Stopping by /g/ a few times when you leave the touhou threads on /jp/ doesn't mean you aren't new here.
You're in that stage where you just recently started to try Linux, didn't understand any of it, got frustrated, then come back to shitpost on /g/ about how Linux sucks.
>>47580802
OS X is the shittiest UNIX I've ever used.
>>47580802
Are you really going to trust a company that sought to end the UNIX wars by buying the UNIX trademark and let just anyone sign up for the right to call their shitty OS UNIX?
>>47581338
You're really bad at spelling best
>>47581388
As you are really bad at spelling have.
>>47580791
>not installing morphOS like me. I can post screenshots to verify it too.
>>47581268
Actually I used Linux as my primary OS for a couple years and still actively use it on my servers since it excels there.
Linux is not a replacement for Windows, it was never meant to be one and it still isn't meant to be one (seeing as how most major contributions are still for server oriented tasks). Good example is the permission system which is still stuck in the multi user mainframe age.
>Still have to use the commandline for almost everything
>Same as above but for config files
>Sharing and syncing with other devices is still spotty as hell
>No support except for random forums where getting the answer you want is a total crapshoot
>Developers are usually completely full of shit and don't care about their users ("just fork it if you don't like it!")
>Crazy amounts of fragmentation
This is all fine for a server OS but a complete disaster for a day to day desktop OS.
Again, support Haiku Project if you want to see a good OSS desktop. It fixes most of the problems you find listed here.
>>47581425
Wow, everything you just wrote is wrong, including your claim that you use Linux.
>>47580791
I have a mint partition on mine for Internet activity and torrenting
the other partitions are Windows xp for geams, and osx for music production
>>47581402
>not running MorphOS on your powerPC mac.
I can even watch youtube videos from the browser.
>not actually installing morphos
>calling your self a hipster
>>47580802
With that shitty hybrid kernel and filesystem you can hardly call that "Unix".
>>47581487
>MorphOS
>not Yellow Dog Linux
>>47580837
kek
>>47581515
>Yellow Dog Linux
>not OpenBSD
>>47581487
good luck finding binaries for that piece of crap
also, you can run enlightenment on linux ppc, it has that same stuck in the past shit look but not as awful as that one
>>47581559
You know you can just write an Enlightenment theme. It was like the first window manager that could be themed.
>>47580791
Driver issues.
>>47580791
>best hardware
you serious?
>>47581268
>You're in that stage where you just recently started to try Linux, didn't understand any of it, got frustrated, then come back to shitpost on /g/ about how Linux sucks
Or he used it enough to know he doesn't like it. I've been here for a while and I still can't believe this whole "you hate Linux because you dont understaaand it" is still a legitimate argument to make. As if anyone who "understands" Linux is automatically going to find it to be the bee's knees of everything they ever wanted in life. I don't agree with that.
>>47580791
I did this on my mbp, even compiled my own kernel and submitted a patch.
>>47581579
i know but it's a hassle to work with enlightenment tbh, way too unstable
>>47581636
You're misusing the word unstable.
>>47581515
>>47581559
I'll be honest. I don't use morphos as my daily driver. Part of that is due to screensize, and no official external monitor support. I cant deal with 1024x768. I use linux, but for a PowerPC machine with 512mb of ram, can you cant beat MorphOS. Dedicated devs and youtube support. Yellow dog and openBSD for PowerPC, do they support youtube with HTLM5? I don't think so,
>>47580791
Just dual boot you faggot.
>>47581680
Wow u dumb.
>>47580837
>This wasn't a rushed product made by developers contributing to some FOSS project.
The Linux kernel has been in development since before OSX existed and some distros (Debian, Red Hat, Slackware) were released before osx existed.
>>47580989
So much stupidity in one post. Congratulations.
>>47581680
Also, transparent windows, 3d games running tinyGL and much more. Also support for Synergy.
>>47580837
>esquisite
I needn't say more.
>>47580837
> implying think pads do not have magnesium chassis wisely covered in plastic so that, unlike macbook, they do not deform on impact
> implying thinkpads don't frequently cost more than MacBooks because they offer superior durability and hardware specs
>implying richard sapper was not a design god that steve jobs wanted to hire but couldn't
>>47580837
>that they can put Windows or Linux on is not cool.
Macfag confirmed for buying something because its cool
>>47581722
I'm not sure about OpenBSD, but Yellow Dog is literally a Linux distribution optimized for PowerPC and basically you're fucking retarded.
>>47581680
>do they support youtube with HTLM5
they do, there's at least a version of midori for ppc that supports html5
>>47580884
>If you just want Linux then you really should just use a cheaper laptop.
Why does running Linux mean I should use cheap hardware? Does that mean I should run Windows if I have a ThinkPad?
>>47580837
>>47581445
You didn't counter his argument at all
>b-but it's just wrong!
>>47581858
Arguing on 4chan is retarded. No one ever reads your post properly unless they want to insult you in some clever way.
>>47581648
no i'm not but go ahead a install the latest version of E17 if you don't believe me
the taskbar is one of the main offenders though you can always switch it off
>>47580989
I like you. We can be friends.
>>47581425
>filename
I read it in her voice. Well memed, my friend.
>>47581425
>>47580989
>Haiku
>running as root all the time
>near zero security
Sounds like fun.
Also, why did the Haiku project hire shills when they don't even have drivers or users? That's a waste of money.
>>47582060
>Also, why did the Haiku project hire shills when they don't even have drivers or users? That's a waste of money.
Probably just fanboys.
I was involved with the project for some time, It has a lot of good ideas, but it will never be completed to a point that it's usable for real work. Even if it did get the money to hire enough people to finish it, it has no focus.
>>47581187
>The whole "We're going to use tons of our own API's/standards, and our own special display server" thing kind of negates the Unix certified stuff.
I wonder how you think this negates anything, without having a fundamental misunderstanding of the standard.
The certification is for providing the infrastructure that makes it compatible to compile and run other POSIX compatible software, not that any OS X specific software is compatible to run on any other UNIX system.
>>47580837
This is why I no longer use any Apple products. One day I realized I was just another cult-member, and I was thoroughly disgusted. I was one of the masses that define their existence with what products they choose to purchase and use. It's pathetic.
Turn the corner. Become your own person.
>>47580791
> best hardware
>>47581897
>Arguing is retarded. No one ever looks at your statements properly unless they want to insult you in some clever way.
>Never say you are an atheist
>Still executed for being a non-believer
>>47580791
>ignorant niggers swaying their dicks on /g/
>duh apel shil fuk of
>inb4 bait le .kex XD lol le fish pic.tar.gz
>ignoring only apple ships A MOTHERFUCKING 16:10 LAPTOP YOU FUCKING RETARTED ASS CHUNKPAD SUCKER FAGGOTS, PLEASE ENJOY YOUR MOVIES ON YOUR 16:9 SCREEN.
>>47580791
Their hardware is optimized for OSX, adding Linux is just downgrading.
>inb4 shill
>>47583964
AND YOUR FUCKING THRONGED LE IBM XD SUPERIOR KEYBOARD WITH A NUMPAD THATS FUCKING USELESS
>>47581342
Yes, because I use UNIX for the tools, not some shitty freedom autism.
>on rBMP
>install linux
>gets better battery life
>gets better performance out of games
>le software is tailored for the hardware meme
Trackpad drivers suck tho
>>47580925
>What useful thing can I accomplish that I can't already do as well on my mac?
Not being a faggot
>>47580791
linus torvalds himself used macbook pros/airs for years because he felt it was the best hardware available.
and i believe he's since switched to the chromebook pixel.
>>47584024
Then the word UNIX means absolutely nothing and you might as well be using cygwin.
>>47580837
Is this a new copypasta? I haven't seen it before.
>>47580791
>If they have the best hardware
Because they don't, and never did.
Because Linux has shit hardware support for the new Retinas. DPI scaling is ass, too.
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