Why are switches so obsecenly expensive?
>>46735647
Because they are generally for business use.
Is there a difference between this one and yours?
Forgive the stupid question, networking isn't really my thing, but if i can help you find something similar for a lower price, i probably can.
Because you're looking at a managed enterprise one. You can get a basic gbit switch on Newegg for cheap.
>>46735687
That's not a 10Gbit switch.
Someone has to pay for the backdoors.
>>46735714
This... You can even get cheap second hand enterprise switches on eBay for a decent price.
Are there any open source switches? Switches seem like fancy NSA boxes.
>>46735717
Why would you even need that... and don't say
>Muh file transfers
>>46735647
Because we NEED them
>>46735756
Sort of. You can cram a computer full of network interface cards and bridge them. It works, but it's clumsy.
>>46735756
What about Open vSwitch?
>>46735647
>Why are managed switches so obscenely expensive?
FTFY
and because they are managed switches, for enterprise/business use, which means they can charge out the ass for them.
Do you really need that many ports?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001EVGIYG/
>>46735757
Fibre Channel alternative for a NetApp(SAN) for example
>mfw 32port 40gbit switch on 1 HU
I dont remember how expensive it was. something around 30k€ iirc
Speaking of switches, anyone can recommend a quality KVM switch for 3 sets of monitors?
>>46735830
...OK.
>Not using Hirschmann
i hope you guys dont do this
>>46735871
Anything below 10Gbit will be much to slow for blade server.
>>46735647
Hardware that can be clocked sufficiently fast enough to facilitate 10Gb/s is quite expensive.
>>46735903
on my old working place we had 80Gbit for ~400 users. It was fine. Iirc we didn't even needed 20Gbit at peak times
>>46735945
And you're saying that you need what they offer?
>>46735945
Did your company also used blade server which are running of the network because the didn't had local drives?
>>46735966
yes, sure.
I haven't manged that stuff, but all our shit was from NetApp (and HP or dell don't remember)
>>46735961
For business use it is needed, obviously.
For home use an unmanaged gigabit switch is more than enough (which can be bought for under 30€).
Gbit switches 8 years ago were at the same price 10Gbit switches are now.
>>46735903
Why don't you just buy a switching module for your chassis?
>>46736012
Thats the same setup that we are running (NetApp and HP)
>>46735756
command line?
>>46736039
Preferred, actually.
Not that I'd mind a webGUI for laziness sake.
>>46735805
i guess he means open hardware
>>46736037
The NetApp Support was so expensive. Everything was expensive, but the support fuckin hell. NetApp must make shittons of money
>>46736113
true story
>>46736058
Yup, considering all it takes is a bunch of NICs bridged together and some embeded linux kernel on some cheapo ARM/MIPS device running some open load balancer I'm quite confused at the lack of them around, when we got quite a number of open router/hardware projects arround, making a switch seems much easier.
Takes a while to breed and train magical packet elves for managed switches.
What, you thought software did that?
Why even buy a unmanaged switch?
It's like buying a router without admin access.
Was going to get this switch to expand my modem to four ports instead of two. But ended up getting a netgear c6300 because staff price
>>46736371
You are implying that they have the knowledge to manage a switch or router.
Far stretch if you ask me.
>>46736607
Someone without knowledge won't be buying a switch, even a unmanaged one.
>>46735756
not any that I am aware of
>>46735786
>>46736131
Kinda, but you will get bottlenecked by the CPU.
real switched have custom ASICs that are purpose built for passing packets at near line speed.
I would kill for an open source managed switch.
>>46736371
Nah. We have ~30 PCs, ~30 VoIP phones and ~30 wireless devices. One LAN, no vlans... all on a couple of 24port unmanaged switches.
Aside segmenting my network into vlans, why do I need one?
>>46736709
Wouldn't a FPGA do the job? ASICs seem like a requirement when you're serving a shitload of clients on all ports but for home usage I doubt even a i3 would bottleneck.
>>46736750
>for home usage I doubt even a i3 would bottleneck
Yeah, which is fine at a handful of clients(I use a c2758 at home with 3 ports bridged as a 'switch' for my lan), but @ 24 or 48 ports, I'm pretty sure you'd start having trouble.
>>46736747
Obviously to control the traffic? VoIP #4 talking too much? Cut off.
Two faggots on Wifi eating all the bandwidth? Make them behave with some nice QoS rules.
>>46736804
>what is pfsense traffic shaping
>what are pfsense limiters
>>46736848
>>46736804
I know that I _want_ a managed switch, but there is no _need_ when you only have one lan and a decent router.
>>46736848
Why handle it at the router when you can handle it at the device 1 place up the network?
>open sauce managed switch
Sounds like a Kikestarter dream, someone go do it.
>>46736887
see >>46736876
I agree that it would be better(and much better IMO), I'm just saying there are situations where a managed switch is not necessary and a L2 switch is acceptable.
>>46736902
I honestly thought about this but meh
>>46736113
EMC is worse. By an order of magnitude.
Infiniband
>>46735647
>obsecenly
