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>>37916503
>tfw fucking high as shit
man
second for choco
if jb i commit suicide
>>37927621
You use krokodil comrade?
>>37927629
no, only cute animals
>>37927641
i'm not that poor yet, mdma coke and alcohol my friend
Is the face an estrogenic fat deposit location? I know that the hips and ass are, but the face?
>>37927642
>being a faggot
>>37927647
Is many drugs to use at once. Are you wanting to be high as cosmonaut on Mir?
>>37927657
tyrone pls
>>37927665
i wanna explore the spees
>>37927689
bleh, somehow she's uglier than ESTP
>>37927695
you're gonna give me nightmares man. be careful with those pics
>tfw no qt gf to play pokemon go with and fuck in public after you find a bulbasaur
>>37927722
>pokemon go
kys manchild
>>37927738
implying it isn't another good way to meet sluts
>>37927746
oh, we had this exact exchange yesterday nvm
started psmf a few days ago and am constantly nauseous as fuck. is there a way to stop this?
>>37927752
must've been someone else senpai
>>37927629
>>37927657
need a black gf lads
>>37927689
Is great adventure.
>>37927695
Who is beautiful lady with hair and eyes as blue as the great Volga?
>>37927793
Many black Lady left in Somalia without husband after all men flee to Germany. German once great people. Now they take kolbasa in anus.
>>37927813
>lady
ESTP has a PENIS
anyone know a source for MK677 in Aus?
>peptides are NOT illegal mods
The regular big Aussie pharma source doesn't carry 677
>>37927842
pretty sure they banned cap for saying stuff about that. Don't know why, probably some autistic kid reporting random posts.
>>37927922
Of course they did
baka why do people have to be such faggots?
>>37927842
What is email tiny roo?
>>37927813
https://soundcloud.com/areyoudeepenough/are-you-deep-enough-episode-03-ft-rich-james
>>37928119
>defence
hurr durr oops
> This meansQuetiapineis adopamine, serotonin, and adrenergicantagonist, and a potent antihistamine with clinically negligible anticholinergic properties.Quetiapinebinds strongly to serotonin receptors; the drug acts as partialagonistat 5-HT1Areceptor
Can any fraud nerds speculate on what this means for gains?
>>37928075
Is good mix. Brings much joy and dancing to the ditch digging crew in gulag.
>>37928242
kek are you a new meme or something?
>>37928274
I am Sergei from glorious motherland. Greetings.
Continuing from yesterday.
I have low test (290) and going on a perma-cruise of 250mg/week, I was wondering if an AI would be needed, and If I could substitute it with Proviron 50mg/day.
>>37928292
well im too high for this kek
Is this three letter forum new or has it been around for a while? I am trying to get back into this and all my old sources have vanished, I was using some people on the old spooky forum. Cant seem to find any blue hearts yet, ill keep searching i guess
>>37928312
Fraud on psychedelics was scarring
>>37928292
Rachmaninoff?
>>37928312
Safe journeys cosmonaut.
>>37928349
Yes is greatest pianist to ever live. Elegant gifted hands like dear princess Anastasia.
Lemme re-phrase my question,
I need to start taking test because of low test, probably extremely low now, but worried about gyno because I have high bf% (30%), so I'm going to do the following on a perma cruise:
250mg/week Test-E
50mg/day Proviron
Nolva or Ralox in case I get gyno
No AI
Would I still need to worry about getting gyno?
>>37928027
manletgains at gmail is the throw away
>>37928119
Kek'd
You mean at police.gov?
>>37928423
so do you have a minor in russian studies or something?
>>37928446
250 may give you above natural range depending on the source and your body so you might need an AI. I know 100mg/week of pharma test c gave me a peak of ~850ng/dl.
>>37928505
I was once coal minor. Hard work, not good for lungs. Gulag supervisor is much better work.
I wonder if Bimbos getting his asshole stretched out right now...
>>37928538
did Dr. Vlad teach you all this?
>>37928544
makin' them dolla bills though. I thought he only topped.
>>37928554
He's "flexible"
also, the shit i'd do that milf hnggggg
>>37928554
I was school by my father before he die in Bosnia while he was remove kebab. Very sad.
>>37928531
All my stuff is pharma, how much should I use then?
>>37928610
ur father was a good man
>>37928645
maybe pick up some asin and do 6.25mg on pin days. But I would just run the test at 125mg/wk and get bloods and work from there. It's possible that you can run 250mg without any e2 problems.
>>37928662
asin is extremely expensive for me, I'd like not to use an AI if possible, and I've read that proviron could work as an alternative
>>37928671
run 150-250mg test/wk, the most you can do without getting estro sides
then run anadrol/tren with it, or if those sides are too harsh, deca/eq
>>37928671
eh, not really comparable. You should have an AI on hand in my opinion, you could use adex as it's cheaper but pfizer asin is $60usd/30 25mg pills and indian is usually $42/30 25mg pills.
If you have adex and you need AI you could do .25mg on pin days but it's all guessing until you get bloods.
Hnng this girl is a realtor now
>>37928647
Yes I miss papa. He always had best stories about remove kebab.
>>37928932
What drug?
>>37928972
Seroquel
My crazy person meds. Unfortunately test doesn't fix schizo
>>37928984 (I think)
Well if it's an adrenergic antagonist it means it'll block substances like epinephrine at the receptors.
>>37928984
>This means Quetiapine is a dopamine, serotonin, and adrenergic antagonist, and a potent antihistamine with clinically negligible anticholinergic properties. Quetiapine binds strongly to serotonin receptors; the drug acts as partial agonist at 5-HT1A receptors.
Sounds like an antipsychotic. It blocks dopamine and serotonin from binding receptors, decreasing the positive symptoms of schizophrenia. It also blocks adrenergic receptors, so your sympathetic nervous system will have less of a "fight or flight" response. All things considered, it will make you calmer. Probably have a slight negative effect on fat loss as while from the adrenergic receptor activity.
>>37928713
What about I do Proviron and Nolva from day 1?
I'm really short on cash, and my budget only allows for that stuff, but I need to do test.
>>37929119
Proviron/nolva ed is more expensive than keeping AI on hand. If you're this fucking poor don't do steroids.
>>37928984
It will make you more tired, less easy to lose fat and as a result of reduced max effort also harder to make gains.
That being said, with a strict training and diet you should be able to get some halfway decent results atleast
Anyone have experience with sarms? Do they work? Do they need pct? Was thinking about rad140. Not willing to try steroids yet.
>>37929566
they work
they're nowhere as good as a basic test e cycle however
you don't need pct
use LGD. failing that, ostarine. don't try rad140
paging MAST
need that image of the russian/german bodybuilder with the gnarly thick jawline from insane GH use pls
Am I currently taking too much shit?
>5 grams of cod liver oil, has some vitamin A/D as well (works great for facial complexion)
>3x chewable multivitamins
>2 liver protection pills, which also has vitamins
Is that a bit too much? isn't the threshold for vitamin poisoning like 100x the RDA which require a bunch of those insane 50iu vitamin D pills?
>>37929584
Thank you. Any dose suggestion or advice in general?
Thinking 10mg lgd for 8 weeks, no other Chema, no pct.
I know these aren't steroids, but I've been weight training for 5 years and stopped making much progress. I'd be happy to add a few more pounds tho.
>>37929836
5mg ed for 8 weeks is the recommended cycle. you can do 10mg also, but generally one vial/container (depending on if you're taking it in liquid or cap form) is dosed so you can do 8 weeks of 5mg ed.
make sure you're going on a bulk as you're doing it, just like a regular AAS cycle, you don't want to waste it on a cut or maintenance.
your test production will be suppressed (though not shutdown), that's normal. it'll come back up to regular levels a few weeks after your last dose. some people recommend DAAs as a kind of ghetto, makeshift PCT for those few weeks when you're off the lgd but not back to regular test levels yet.
>hottest girl from back in high school became a pornstar
its a weird feel, anyway
thinking about doing a 12 week cycle with
>200-250mg test
>enough hcg to keep my balls alive
>40mg anavar ED
last time I did a cycle of 350mg into 450 mg I overshot my size goal by 15 lbs. thankfully I lost those 15lbs in pct and kept the other half of my gains. My dose is low enough to not blow up like crazy but high enough to recover quickly, eat a lot, and stay super lean. Gonna try to keep weight training to a minimum and prioritize acrobatic training. Hopefully hcg will add a good amount of test too. but I'm hoping for a steady 1200-1400.
>>37929881
>I overshot my size goal by 15 lbs.
>lost those 15lbs in pct and kept the other half of my gains
>Gonna try to keep weight training to a minimum and prioritize acrobatic training.
what is this post
>>37929881
oy vey..
>>37929894
>competitive gymnast in my youth
>hit growth spurt
>couldn't progress as fast anymore
>start doing acrobatics/lifting
>200lbs, decide to run test
>get to 230lbs in 10 weeks
>I used to be able to do a ring muscle up with +45lbs, peak of my cycle I couldnt even do a single unweighted muscle up
>pct and lose 15lbs
now im cutting to get to 7% so I can be 200lbs shredded.
N e kiwi's here
best way to kill yourself? im gona do it
>>37928554
Why are MILFs and GILFs such size queens?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzvy_fgxxIQ
god danm this guy is great lmao
I think I might have pitted edemas in my right quad near the pin site. I've been getting pretty bad swelling, rash and tisue irritationg each time I pin. I'm pretty hairy though so I couldn't really tell. Shaved down my right quad and I noticed I had some indentation in my leg. Is this serious?
All I'm running is Test E and Dbol. I was taking SERMs and AI everyday for some mild gyno but that went away so I switched back to E3D. Last time I took the Nolva and the Aromasin was two days ago.
I usually eat pretty clean, but I had to catch a flgiht today and it fucked up my time pretty bad so I ate pretty terribly today. Had four burrito's supreme from taco bell, an in and out double burger, and then a huge meal at dennys(bacon eggs hash browns etc.). Right now I feel llike I'm out of breath, but I think this might be just the shitty food I ate.
Please respond.
Alright, so I'm re-asking this question, I can manage to afford AI, now the question:
250mg/week perma cruise Test-E, 30% bf
Aromasin vs Arimidex and at what dose?
>>37930810
e3d and adjust depending on personal effects.
PSMF til low bf though, or the sides will be worse, especially regarding estro.
>>37930810
asin
you most likely won't have to use it on that low a dosage (though you're pretty damn fat) but it's nice to have on hand
12.5mg eod if/when you start showing sides of high e2
>>37930816
Wait, you didn't mention which should I use E3D?, and what is PSMF?
>>37930824
Sorry, I meant aromasin 12.5 e3d.
>What is PSMF
Learn more then do gear lmao
>>37930824
don't listen to him, he's just repeating stuff he's seen said in /fraud/ before
you're going on what is effectively TRT, you don't need to cut bf% first and you certainly don't need to psmf first
>>37930832
stop
What do you guys think about melanotan 2?
Want to get into longevity and stop using sunbeds, but want to keep that godly bronze skin
Also, any longevity supps you guys recommend?
>>37930832
>Learn more then do gear lmao
Bruh my test is probably around 100~ now
You guys seem to recommend asin, and it seems like the logical choice since it's suicidal, but I've read on some asin vs adex threads that I searched that some people complain about asin not giving them the desired effect for gyno?
>>37930824
Protein Sparing Modified Fast.
/r/PSMF
Go with Odin.
>>37930846
Asin is more effective. It's also easier to crash your estro though, so that's why you'll want to adjust it depending on the effects.
>>37930837
I'm saying it both from what I've heard, and from personal experience, faglord.
>Don't need to cut bf%
He's at 30% bf retard. Why the fuck shouldn't he cut? The effects will be moreso if he has a lower body fat.
This was me at 31.5% BF measured by DEXA
>>37930846
>not giving them the desired effect for gyno?
I don't know what that's supposed to mean
you use AI (be it asin or adex) in a preventative manner when you notice your e2 levels are high (or just start immediately, depending on what you're running and at what dosage, then taper up/down). you don't use it to cure gyno once you already have it, you use a SERM for that, such as nolva or ralox
>>37930863
because he's going on trt, cruising for life. he's not going on a fucking cycle
>>37930810
>30% bf
This is now me at ?% bf
>>37930875
So what if he's not going on a cycle? Chances are he might want to blast someday. I was only planning on cruising 4 lyfe since I was relatively low test, but I started blasting a week in.
Although I'm pretty sure he hasn't even lifted before so it probably makes no difference.
>>37930888
Why you posting bf% pics in /fraud/?
>>37930840
so far it's given me a few new moles, like 4 on face. there is a dark patch now on my dick. turned my blond beard hairs black so it looks like my beard doubled. (friend asked me if i started tren).
overall i'm pretty okay with it. i would probably have started with a lower dose tho.
>Also, any longevity supps you guys recommend?
metformin?
>>37930884
Dunno m8
>>37930889
yes, and being on a cruise dose of test is an incredibly effective way to help a cut. waiting before going on trt is absolute nonsense that you're just repeating because you've heard high bf% causes sides during blasts/cycles
>>37930889
>Although I'm pretty sure he hasn't even lifted before so it probably makes no difference.
I should have mentioned my basic stats:
1.25 plate squats, 1.5 plate deadlifts, .75 plate bench, .75 plate rows, .25 plate ohp
babby mode
>>37930899
So you all can point and laugh?
>>37930909
>talks about how he can barely afford ai
>suggest starting at a higher bf so he has to take more ai
d e v i l i s h
>>37930888
32%
>>37930915
>So you all can point and laugh?
I can understand the self deprecrating humour but serious what is the point, to find out if you're too fat for gear or was it posted in the wrong thread?
>>37930909
Maybe I wasn't clear in my original post. I was making a recommendation that he should PSMF until low bf while on the dose, since it's easier to cut, and then they'll be less sides if he decided he wanted to blast.
>>37930900
Yeah i heard one should start ultra low dose to avoid moles
>metformin
Something a little more...basic?
Was thinking about regular mk677 cycles
>>37930924
>implying he's even gonna have to use any
>>37930970
berberine hcl as an alternative to metformin
unless you're talking joint/tend/lig longevity, then mk677 is good but the hunger can get in the way
msm chonditrine (sp?) glucosamine
what are some mental effects you experienced after taking test
>>37931046
Fuck test's mental effects. Get dbol and feel like a fucking god for your first cycle. Nothing is as satisfying as being on dbol, not even tren
whats a good guide to steroids to watch/read ?
>>37931098
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/
>>37931106
thanks lad
Do you actually lose your gains when you stop cycles or is this bullshit
Alright, I just dropped some cash and bought my AI (pic related), this is the only asin available in the pharmacies here, $72 for 30 tabs, don't know how will I split the fuckers though or If I should just take it once weekly instead of e3d and splitting.
>>37931203
when you come off, your test levels are very low so it's hard to maintain everything you gained. you will lose a couple pounds, but nowhere near what you gained as long as you PCT properly and make sure you start producing your testosterone again. some people use an oral ender towards the end of the cycle make sure they can keep their gains while shutdown.
doesn't happen if you blast and cruise, obviously.
>>37931223
are you in thailand or something
Parents are out of town and I just had to goto the vet and put their dog down after they found internal bleeding because of a tumor
:(
F
>>37931223
you're gonna cut first, r-right?
please don't get bitchtits and give /fraud/ an even worse reputation than it already has
do 2-3 cycles of DNP+forkputdowns 10xf
>>37931284
STOP
POSTING
THIS
STUPID
SHIT
>>37931293
what, you gonna reeeee and post a frog? please
he's not a powerlifter, has literally no excuse to be a fat sack of shit, but worse
he's a beginner and has no idea how to dial in AI, no idea how to lift, and no idea how to properly diet
you wanna roid at 30% like a dumbfuck and get nowhere? run 150-250mg test/wk and 50-100adrol 45min-1hr pre workout
fucking morons
>>37931314
I just had this discussion with another poster and don't wanna have it again
please just stop posting, you don't know anything
>>37931320
how naive lol
hai guys, i recently left the obese bmi category and am in the overweight range now, been training for 9 months and i'm thinking of getting on the gear, would test help me lose weight and gain muscle while in a calorie deficet?
>>37931255
Oh no
Sorry anon :(
F
>>37931326
If he wants to be fat let him be fat
More proof that roids aren't magic
>>37931330
run 60-100 dianabol ED with 500mg test/wk. you'll lose no muscle whatsoever, nad have the potential to gain while losing weight no problem
I just had this discussion with another poster and we unanimously agreed bodyfat% doesn't effect aromatization, 90% of the people here are just fearmongering parrots
>>37930888
fucking pathetic
>>37931354
i dunno, i just wanna get toned up for summer
seriously though, i'm not gonna do it but it does cross my mind when i see half these guys in the gym who are huge and i just wanna be rid of this fat already, i'm already pretty muscly underneath the fat.
I got nice gains on chink ostarine , I do fear this shit has lead in it tho.
>>37931373
do it man, you won't regret it
just be prepared to never lift natty ever again, there's no going back
>>37931354
again, not gonna argue with you
go read up on what I said to the other guy
>>37930837
>>37930875
>>37930909
p.s. you're fucking retarded
>>37931373
Why are you here?
>>37931354
>bodyfat% doesn't effect aromatization
BUT higher bodyfat% have been shown to increase all the other negative side effects.
>>37931429
dianabol directly counters these negative effects and makes you feel good, not even expensive either
>>37931440
>dianabol directly counters high blood pressure, fluid retention and significant decreases in aerobic capacity.
Literally the opposite of accurate.
>>37931454
you are LITERALLY getting trolled
>that anon is trying to troll 30% guy into getting gyno
>>37931494
dude. if you take enough aromasin, you won't get gyno
simple as that dumbfuck. please don't argue with me.
>>37931494
>troll
muh epic aromatization from cruising
>>37931396
>do it man, you won't regret it
When he is producing as much natural test as a prepubescent schoolgirl he will.
>>37931581
some truly epic posts in /fraud/ this morning
>>37929584
>you don't need pct
pic related shows why youre wrong
>>37929715
Frank McGrath
>>37930915
Please tell me this is a troll post
>>37930915
Pls be London
>go through wrong puberty as a kid
>be low test for years after that
>start gear as trt and cut from like 25% to 12%
>abdominal skinfold is now 6mm
>meanwhile i can still grab literal fistfulls of fat off my ass even though i have ab and oblique definition
Made my order on Wednesday through tf (Canadian here) looks like it should be delivered by Monday, my body is ready
>>37929715
Kek this one?
>>37930067
Their vagoos have become cavernous after years of abuse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzh4snK7aL8
how do I into Josh mode?
Anyone else fucking despise swapping shifts with other people?
Is there any /fit/ wiki for steroids?
I'll go ahead and ask a question That's probably asked by every noob, but...
Looking for something to take in small dosage to accelerate growth a bit, something that I'd take for 2-3 months maybe and stop completely after.
Also it should have no side effects.
Does something like this exist at all?
>>37933160
/r/steroids check the wiki there
>>37933160
r/steroids has a great wiki
there is a /fraud/ pastebin you can google for aswell
>>37933160
>Is there any /fit/ wiki for steroids?
r/steroids and
https://www.muscle-research.com/forums/58-Steroid-Profiles?s=7162d42a91104943ffd3646c367a142d
>Also it should have no side effects.
>Does something like this exist at all?
no but test base with some eq have very little side effects
>>37933132
no
unless its a graveyard shift that fucks your sleeping schedule
being owed a favour is nice too
>>37933199
What side effects, even if minor?
lmao fucking mast and bimbo posting in cbts
>>37933297
read the steroid profiles for test and eq. but basically it is hair loss, acne, smaller nuts, smaller dick, gyno, premature aging
how do you know when youre getting too big
>>37933160
the rest of fraud will disagree with me but for a noob, 50mg of anavar (actual anavar) for 6 weeks would be perfect
zero sides and you could easily put on 10-15lbs
inb4 "b-but oral steroids.."
>>37933514
>6 weeks
which 12lbs is fat and 3lbs muscle
Comrades, good morning from motherland.
>>37933658
hello, is >>37932931 you?
>>37933493
When you no longer fit through doorways.
>>37933697
No that is cousin Myshkin. His ugly but very nice person.
>>37932715
I wish i had gear on the way
Few vials of tren
Maybe some more var
Some mk677
Finances are so fucked rn
>>37933843
Mk677 is amazing drug?
>>37933658
shalom
Any of you actually tried tbol?
>>37934089
is 16 year old pussy better than 20's pussy?
>>37929881
As an athlete I know this feel. 250 test and various orals for pwo have been my cycle for the last year.
>>37934089
You visit with little girl?
>>37934174
depends on the girl, I'd say
>>37934188
oh boy.
long ass story short - no.
>>37934020
Thats what im tryna find out comerade
>>37934113
Yeah
Its decentish
Like weak winny that doesnt fuck your joints up
>>37934207
Father threaten to beat you and cut off kolbasa and make you eat with sauerkraut while he laugh?
>>37934174
No, because they don't have any idea how to fuck and neither do you when you're that young. I'm almost thirty and best sex is what I'm having right now with a chick who is 30.
>>37934262
lol no.
fuck that white nigga, I can take him >:c
>>37934288
>tfw no qt scandinavian gf
>>37934245
I hear is very good from reliable source.
>>37934288
White man who act like nigger is worst. Always you should be proud of heritage.
>>37934327
>White man who act like nigger is worst
I wouldn't know - never even met the guy
>>37934326
>tfw cray saffa gf with daddy issues
>>37928306
Do stock on AI as you will probably need some (especially if you are over 10% bodyfat). Fuck proviron for AI.
>>37928446
I was the last reply. Saw that you are 30% bodyfat. PLEASE use a real AI and don't fall for the proviron shit. Nolva is a good idea if nipples shows symptoms.
>>37930810
Aromasin is better and can range from 6.25mg EOD to 12.5mg ED or more. Each person needs different doses. Just don't overdo it with Asin, up the dose slowly and until you find the sweet spot. Easy to crash estro on this stuff. Also, more bodyfat means more estro, always.
>>37931440
Dianabol is estrogenic as fuck you retard.
Have you ever cycled?
>>37933565
maybe if they lift like you do
a newb on anavar could easily gain more than 3lbs of muscle in 6 weeks, you helmet
>>37934558
>you helmet
what did he mean by this?
>>37934600
that yer a fuckin idiot
>>37934736
fuck you
>>37931795
"pic related" shows suppression, not shutdown, and shows a return to regular levels within less than 30 days
waiting fixes everything for LGD. if anything, pcting would cause way more problems/sides.
>>37934600
need helmet because retarted
whats up guys about to do 500 test e / week 10 weeks
i have adex on hand but im not sure if i need to use it unless i experience gyno sides? any recommendations on dosing. got pretty good ideas on (more reputable) forums but curious if there are differing opinions
>>37935027
bro do it longer, 10 weeks is nothing.
i'd say do it 3-4 months, come off for 1 month, then go back or just bnc for life
Where can I get ephedrine online for cheap? I don't want to go to the pharmacist and look like I'm making meth
>>37934921
so youre fine with your test levels being extremely low, as long as they arent zero? why?
also, the trend is pretty obviously downwards with time, seeing as how you recommended 8 weeks it will probably take longer than a full month to recover
and the fact that it takes a month to recover on your own is good enough reason to use a pct
>>37935328
lgd does not cause the hypothalamus to significantly reduce the amount of LH or FSH the hypothalamus is producing. SERMs are used to kickstart the LH and FSH production, which is completely fucking useless because they were never significantly impacted.
so, in a body that does not need LH or FSH hormone production restarted or elevated to a large degree, does not have excessively high levels of estrogen, which would pose a risk of causing breast tissue formation, why the hell would you want to further disrupt the return to homeo-fucking-stasis by ingesting a SERM that was shown to be completely unnecessary, and has a host of potential side effects of its own?
>>37935392
>lgd does not cause the hypothalamus to significantly reduce the amount of LH or FSH
yes it does, please refer back to my pic
>>37935504
>dropped by 1U/L
>significant impact
time to stop posting
>>37928554
can you post more nicole please
>>37935514
>20% drop is insignificant
how do you reckon?
also
>1 mg/d for 21 days vs 5 mg/d for 8 weeks
>obviously both dose and time dependent
anyone tried draining themselves?
can it be done safely?
>>37932577
Egypt
>>37934384
>>37934407
>>37934498
Well, after some reading, it looks like I might start Proviron and Nolva from day 1, use Aromasin 12.5mg EOD and get bloods done every two weeks to monitor my E2 and adjust my dose accordingly.
Scared as fuck of getting gyno desu.
>>37935559
it's insignificant because they still remain well within regular values and are still producing. for the 3rd time, they don't stop producing, so why would you ever PCT?
the same applies for 5mg and 10mg ED, 8 weeks cycles.
>>37935609
>why would you ever PCT?
because high test is better than low test
its not like you need to do a full 4 week pct either, just do some low dose nolva for a week or two and youll recover a shitton faster
but sure, be low test for a few weeks after your cycles if you want to i guess
>>37935213
Just stop being an autist and buy some from a pharmacy. It's perfectly legal.
getting tired of d r a m a
>>37935563
>I might start Proviron and Nolva from day 1
sigh
>>37935629
literally just get some DAA for a couple weeks instead of fucking your shit up with something more harmful than what you initially took (lgd)
>>37935717
don't care about it, don't make long replies
>>37935717
you think you know drama? the 16-year-old girl I was fucking from tinder thinks she's pregnant
hope I don't have to run away to another country
>>37935749
do you think people on cycle should be on any AI? or just believe that people shouldn't take nolva after cycling?
i dont understand
>>37935765
she wasn't on the pill? she didn't use a plan b pill?
>>37935749
>sigh
Please inform me, I literally see no problem with it beside the sides. It'll cut me sometime until I can fine-tune my Aromasin dose that fits me.
>>37935765
been there bro i doubt she's pregnant especially if she was on bc. bc fucks with their periods.
>>37935760
im talking bout irl stuff, unfortunately.
>>37935765
>you think you know drama? the 16-year-old girl I was fucking from tinder thinks she's pregnant
pullout game w e a k
but srsly, I feel bad for you
>>37935792
>im talking bout irl stuff, unfortunately.
whats going on breh?
lets see if uncle /fraud/ can help
>>37935765
Shit man, I've been through a pregnancy scare once, sort this out as soon as possible or it'll fuck with your head, it literally traumatized me for a while.
>>37935765
How old are you? otherwise i hope face you 1v1, so i can crack up your dyel skull
>>37935777
I don't know what we're talking about here as I was talking about two different things in the post you quoted
should someone on a test cycle use AI and PCT? yes, obviously
on lgd? no to both
>>37935803
>whats going on breh?
gf is cray
car is rekt
mom is depro
promo work got halved
college project due
same old upper middleclass bs
>>37935824
mast can you post some pic of face going to make a great pedo hunter pic for you
>>37935824
How is life of boss masT?
>>37935784
she told me she was on birth control, though not the pill. I didn't ask for more information. we fucked all night long, went to go see her again 2 weeks later and she told me she had been vomiting and stuff and she never does. I told her I was pretty scared about it and stuff. she texted me the following morning and told me I had a good reason to be scared
thankfully she doesn't even have my phone number or last name so now I'm fleeing
>>37935792
I don't even pull out
>>37935824
I'm 25 :)
anyone here take finasteride on cycle? If not what do you guys use to protect your hairline while blasting?
>>37935854
stay strong breh
How common is amnesia after a head (brain) operation lads?
>>37935893
whats wrong with minoxidil bro
>>37935901
not even the same thing fucktard
>>37935888
>I don't even pull out
+1
>>37935894
shot
I did my research and I would like a critique of my first cycle:
>250mg Test E / week - broken up into 2 pins for 12 weeks
Keep Arimidex on hand in case of sides
>2 weeks of nothing
>2 weeks 50mg/ED Nolva
>2 weeks 25mg/ED Nolva
>4 weeks of nothing
Can I get some pointers on this? I'd like to keep my balls the same size, so HCG seems like a good thing to take while on it - but then again this is such a low dose I'm thinking I probably won't even need an AI. Any experience with low dose cycles, or any thoughts are welcome.
>>37935788
You're scared for no good reason. You're on a cruise dose of testosterone and you're already thinking about using a SERM on day 1 of your cycle, before anything can even happen. Your 12.5mg EOD of aromasin is already most likely going to be way overkill, even at your very high bodyfat percentage due to the low dosage and the fact that you're on no other compound.
You seem to have easy access to bloods, so just get that.
But whatever, do what you want to do. I'm sure using aromasin every other day for the next 60 years of your life is a good plan.
>>37935533
PLS
>>37935954
I've got the exact same thing planned but 500mg test e over 10 weeks, then change your 50 and 25 to 40 and 20.
I have adex for sides as well, but I doubt you'll get much on 250 a week, don't fuck your cycle up by being paranoid and taking too much adex.
>>37935954
your cycle will do almost nothing for you gains or strength wise. it's good to gauge how you react to test only for your following cycle if you want to add a second compound while on a low dosage of test (such as tren) but don't expect anything from it.
otherwise it's fine. you most likely won't need the AI but it's always good to have on hand.
>>37936003
pretty sure he just has 50mg tabs, hence the 50/25 instead of 40/20. it's fine.
>>37935954
run 500mg a week
>>37935965
>cruise dose
a bit high for a cruise
> I'm sure using aromasin every other day for the next 60 years of your life is a good plan.
Well, I'm planning on stopping it once I hit a single digit bf% or get lower than 14% at least, hopefully.
Kek. Govt of Turkey was overthrown in a coup. This year is definitely going down in the history books.
Is there anything that can be done to bring back the appetite suppressanting effect of ec stack?
It no longer effects me no matter how long I stay away from it
>>37936045
why are you treating test as if its some kind of fat burner?
>>37935882
there is no boss life
>>37935888
you're a fucking loser, i hate you
bragging about making a 16 year old woman pregnant, because you're too beta to fuck someone your own age. FUCKING LOSER
i cant even
>>37936087
Because It's supposed to help a lot with cutting, I'll be able to cut a lot more aggressively without caring much about muscle loss, plus it'll combat the negative sides of the high dose corticosteroids that I'm taking, which includes all that fat gain.
>>37936109
>muscle loss
what muscle? you dont like youve ever lifted a weight in your life and youre weaker than the average girl
just cut aggressively and then reevaluate from there
ask your doc if you think you should be using test to counteract the sides from your other meds
>>37936076
definitely, not even 7 months in
is that grill that tripped still around?
i have a question that can only be answered by a roid whore
>>37936109
do you even have any muscle to lose you fat fuck
>>37936128
shes b&
>>37936118
I can't cut more aggressive than that, my muscles are wasted pretty bad, I was almost not able to walk properly before starting to lift
>>37936130
exactly, I was almost bed-ridden, man. If I lose any more muscle I won't be able to move.
>>37936128
I'll be your roid whore tho :3
>>37936140
goddamnit
>>37936078
meth
>>37936141
so tell your doc you fucking idiot
>>37936141
i think you're severely overestimating the amount of muscle you'll lose while cutting
>>37936147
im too old for you bby (over 15)
I'm >>37935954
Thanks for your replies; I have a few questions:
1. I initially thought 250/week because it's a TRT level dose and it would give me an idea how my body responds - also wouldn't shut down my natural test production completely down (is my logic). Am I completely wrong in thinking this? Would I be better off doing 500/week and then a standard PCT cycle to recover?
Second, would you guys recommend prophylactic use of an AI EOD at 500/wk?
Third, if I were to take HCG while on cycle to protect my balls - is this safe/reasonable? Would it cut down on the effect of the pins?
Thanks
>>37936097
who said I only fuck 16-year-olds?
>refusing to fuck attractive, legal girls because of your moral standards
sm h
>>37936153
pretty certain he's not going through a doctor, he has access to pharma grade test and asin because he lives in egypt
>>37936188
he has a serious illness and should be treated for it
kind of pissed that mast is still here desu
one day ill have time for you again, fraud
>>37936153
>>37936188
My Immunlogist said that he has no problem with it, and there are actually research supporting test might be helpful in my case
My endocrinologist seems... neutral... but ordered me to get blood work, all the results are normal now thankfully, but the test and e2 results come out tomorrow, and I'm scheduling another appointment in a few days.
>>37936188
The fact you do, makes you a loser. You can't talk yourself out of this shit. Pathetic pedophile. 1v1 me.
The only reason you do so is because you can't get any better. Like there are no older pretty girls. What a fcking stupid argument.
>>37936204
Nobody cares about your existence dyel pussy. Go away, you won't be missed. Bye bye
>>37936231
sick
follow their recommendations instead of retards on 4chan
anyway if that espn girl or whatever her name is happens to be reading this, gf is hopping on var and wanted a consult.
throwaway: [email protected]
anon dick pics will be saved and jerked off to by me, so dont even think about it.
>>37936246
The thing is, this endo guy is one of the best here, but when I mentioned AAS, he doesn't seem to be very well-versed in details about it, so I need to take info from you guys, and run it by him to see if he approves or not, but he doesn't have information to get me started, you know what I mean?
>>37936182
it will definitely shut you down completely even at 250mg. I said it in my last post, it's fine to see how you react to a low dose of test but don't expect results from it. if you're doing it because you're planning another cycle after where you will run a low dose of test + another compound, it's fine. if you're expecting real gains, it's not fine, and yes, you should be on 500mg/week
the AI question is one of the most common question and mostly unanswerable. some people don't need any AI on a gram of test, some start growing tits on 500mg. it depends on how prone you are to sides personally, how high your bf% is, etc.
some people will start with a low dose of AI EOD and taper up/down as needed depending on how they feel their e2 is going, some will wait until they start showing signs of high e2 before doing anything, etc.
the best thing is to get bloods and use that to dose your AI, but most people won't/can't do that (it's expensive, some countries don't offer them so you have to go online, etc)
>>37936245
>The only reason you do so is because you can't get any better. Like there are no older pretty girls. What a fcking stupid argument.
that's literally the opposite of my argument though
I fuck legal girls if they're hot, be they 16 or 26. sorry you're passing up on hot girls because "muh morals" m8
>>37936260
ahaha
>>37936298
Thanks man, that really helps. What are your thoughts on HCG?
>>37936315
>hes arguing with mast
i dont even come here anymore and i know better
you'll find more wisdom and sound logic in a child
>>37936346
someone has to pick up the slack now that JM is gone
>>37936097
Man with muscle like you must surely be boss?
>>37936315
Still defending his meaningless argument. Are your brain cells also pedophile?
>>37936346
He doesn't come here, because he's an alpha man. Only beta man post on 4chan. XD XD XD SO HARDCORE XD.
He let's everyone know that he doesn't come here anymore like he was someone important and was missed somehow. Lmao
Im gonna make a list of people who don't post here anymore, feel free to contribute
cyclefag
infinity
chem
HGH
Slut
Mike
notop
JM
trendick
dingo
mathfag*
quad
>>37936343
it'll work to keep your balls at their regular size. I would recommend keeping your cycle simple and not using it, though, as it's not needed at all.
>>37936433
chem came by last night. he just has a hard time posting regularly because... you know. slut and notop still post.
>>37928446
If your worried and not poor just take raloxifene the whole time
If i was you i would also be very worried about gyno at 30%
I want to roid so hard, but my hairline is already dangerously high.
Fina only works for male pattern baldness right? Because my dad is in his 50's and only his hairline has moved up, he still has his hair. I don't want to move my hairline any higher.
Pic related is me
>>37936546
>>37928446
hey man I haven't run a cycle yet, but I'm fresh from reading - and I think you're confused about what causes gyno while on cycle, and what to use to treat it, or maybe I am. In any case here's a learning opportunity for both of us - more experienced people please jump in:
Gyno occurs on cycle from aromatization of testosterone; so an aromatase inhibitor is taken while on cycle, sometimes preventatively sometimes only when sides occur.
After cycle, gyno occurs because of the estrogen imbalance which develops from your testes not producing any test on their own - so you take a SERM to prevent this estrogen from binding to receptor sites, while also POSSIBLY taking HCG to assist your balls with kickstarting their own natural test production.
Aromatase inhibitors shouldn't be taken when off cycle, because there is no aromatization going on.
I think this is right - anyone can confirm?
>>37936475
notop got banned last week kek
>>37936475
What happened between them?
>smoking cigar in my hammock in the middle of the park
>tons of people walking around like drones playing pokego
>can't stop thinking about burying my face between every girls ass cheeks
>dick is a diamond
I missed you tren.
>>37936433
Hgh and slut still come by occasionally, it's been a while though.
Hey guys!
how do i get blood stains out of my shorts?
What is some good self improvement shit to invest time in over the summer? I already am pouring my heart out into improving my body, but I also have fuckloads more spare time.
My problem is I literally only give a shit about lifting, eating, and sleeping right now. I need something to channel all this extra energy from the gear into. I already have a good grasp of coding, already have a 4.0 GPA so don't need to study college-related stuff, and video games are just boring as hell.
>>37936572
'mirin hard
i dont even look that good now at the end of my cycle.
you should decide what is more important to you, your hair or getting huge.
you'd probably look decent with short to no hair so id say go for it.
>>37937164
hydrogen peroxide or if its fresh suck on it or spit and use cool water to try and wash it out.
>>37937168
and yes i obviously have no life atm so i am basically doing fucking nothing all day. I also delved into piano and got pretty good at it a couple years ago, but it is just so fucking retarded.
>>37936572
RU58841 is the only option to keep the hairs while on any cycle. I do it and it works. As usual, you will probably listen to people telling you to use minoxidil and/or finasteride but the androgen receptor is the key. DHT is not the only hormone that can bind to the hair follicles androgen receptors.
>>37936128
My wifes been using for a while
Whats up
>>37937164
gall soap
>>37937179
Thx senpai
I guess I'll wait until my hair is fucked up and then start roiding.
I'm a 4/10 without my hair desu
>>37937185
I used rubbing alcohol and it looks like two very small green splotches on my blue shorts.
the lesson from this is always pin naked
>>37937194
how long have you used this?
requesting the /fraud/ wiki
So here's the deal, not sure what to do about my cycle. Been b/c about a year, made great gains. Did some tren last winter up to about april, cruised april to july. Now up'd the test to 600mg/wk (allegedly 600mg), about 3 weeks into it.
Now that summer is here and pretty much already over, i'm sitting here at 13% (plz no hate, found best friend dead from overdose in april, been binge eating my emotions).
So i'm considering bulking since what the hell, 4 weeks cutting to get decent will land us at august 12 and before you know it it's getting cold (canadafag).
I have some dbol and anadrol and lots of test e
Cycle option
1) Test, up to 750 mg
2)test xxx mg + dbo
3)test xxx mg + anadrol
4)lower test to 300mg + order some tren ($$)
5)Other suggesstion by anon or you glorious tripfags
195 pounds, 5'8
180/295/355/460 5RM
Additional info: I'd get on sheiko most likely
>>37937268
use tren so you don't get any fatter (not trenpp), above 13% is really not acceptable. will probably even lean out a bit
Is there a way to get benefits from taking test without ringing any alarm bells if you were tested?
>>37937262
1 year and 6 months of on and off cycling
Half way through my first cycle and there's definitely a small patch of thinning hair on top of my head. What do? My shoulder is fucked up atm so I can't even bench or ohp anyway. Should I quit the cycle and start pct early?
>>37937591
Lol if you have thinning hair from your first cycle i hate to tell you bud but guess what you're going already going bald, with our without gear.
>>37937611
Fml
>>37937648
minoxidil
fina
that shampoo that has something in it
some guy also talked about some blocker I think it was like fhpg-2 or something no idea
>>37937611
Should I quit and take something like finasteride? I'd rather be fit and smaller withwithull head of hair than bald and huge lol.
>>37937705
>that shampoo that has something in it
ketoconazole
>>37937705
ru58841
Nizoral shampoo
Thanks for the help guys.
Can you guys help? I'm doing psmf and during my workouts i feel like I'm close to passing out
Taking a multivitamin, vit d, drinking more than enough water. Only eating 1g/lbm of protein.
>>37937794
take a bit of carbs during the workout?
>>37937804
But muh deficit
Been having exactly 0 carbs
I also dont wanna get out of ketosis because doing so on extreme deficits makes me feel like shit somehow
>>37937794
I'm gonna play the usual card
ELECTROLYTES
Also workouts on PSMF will have you feeling like that regardless, breh
>>>37937794
yeah m8, I buy some powdered gatorade and mix it in with my bcaas and drink it intra-workout
What kind of sides should I be getting on 400mg tren ace? Can't tell if my tren is part of an underdosed batch or not from that certain source board, since I never ran tren before. It tastes like hot pepper if that helps (tasted what was left over in the syringe after an injection).
It is definitely legit but I don't know if it's underosed.
>>37937975
>ELECTROLYTES
I keep telling people. Use NO-Salt for 5 bucks from walmart. Contains like 2.5g potassium in a teaspoon. Just drink it. It helps. Go for 8g potassium.
1200mg magnesium citrate a day.
Balance sodium and carbs as usual. So if you're doing psmf, you will want like 6g+ sodium.
>>37937794
>drinking more than enough water
You're setting yourself up here. If you over consume water, you will flush out electrolytes = you look stringier and feel weaker.
>>37927621
Fuck man first time in about a year I got absolutely fucked last night. 450mg codeine 4mg Xanax a bottle of wine and a joint. Respiratory depression as Fuck.
>>37938042
Fuck. I have only been taking sea salt for sodium since I was too lazy to get magnesium and potassium, didn't think it mattered that much.
Also, you are the first to mention the actual AMOUNTS to take of each. I always see people saying, oh take this oh take that, but never the amounts. Gonna get some right now, thanks bro.
>>37938119
Amounts vary for different people. And keep in mind foods and whatnot will contain the extra sodium and potassium etc.
Don't just down 8g of potassium then eat a bunch of bananas, for example
>>37938270
why would i eat a bunch of bananas on psmf lol
>>37934113
Yeah, I've used it twice now on lean bulks. The first time I got decent strength gains while dropping fat quickly. The second time I gradually added power without really increasing in size too much. You definitely look aesthetic on it and feel great. It's not as dramatic as dbol, but you dont have the armitization problems. Run it with a test base and it's a great cycle.
>>37935833
ignorant fuck
>>37938625
good argument m8
>>37938640
thx
a-am I the o-only one h-here?
>getting paid to shitpost on 4chan and beat up drunk toddlers
Why aren't you guys bouncing in your spare time?
I make money while saving money and saving gains. It's like +$120 a night.
>>37938913
I think it's just the two of us, but I'm going to bed.
Nighty night, friend.
>>37938965
i don't wanna get shot by a muzzie tbH
>>37938974
g-good n-night anon
>>37928312
This gives me the firmest erection.
>>37938982
Half of us CC. Niggers have waited out by the dumpsters before but we scare them away.
It's a sweet gig as long as you aren't manlet.
I'm browsing fit right now while drunk 22 year olds wreckless eyeball me.
>>37939214
sounds comfy familia
>>37933132
No I have a real job lad.
>>37934327
You're the best, Sergei.
>>37939214
fucker, I'm a manlet and I bounced at a bar. Couldn't count how many times I heard some girl say "OH MY GAWWD he's SOO LIIITLE" and then after I would wrap some frat boy up and toss him out they'd come up and initiate the convo. Really helped me get over my height issues that this godforsaken shithole gave me in terms of women. #manletbouncersmatter
Also, can someone check this first time cycle+PCT schedule for legitimacy?
Week 1-12
500mg Test-E, 250mg on Monday 250mg on Thursday
Week 13-14
Nada
Week 15-16
100mg Clomid /ED
40mg Nolva /ED
Week 17-18
50mg Clomid/ED
20mg Nolva/ED
>>37939502
how much of a manlet are we talking about here? and if you're so short supposedly howd you get a job as a bouncer?
>>37939520
5'8 , 165 lbs.
I'm strong and I can take a punch; also know how to fight, and how to talk to women. And I've been told I have a "look" that's really intense and intimidating which doesn't hurt.
The talking to women is relevant because most bartenders are hot girls, so they're the ones to talk to about meeting the owner, get them to introduce you and you're golden. Esp. if they're slutty and the owner's fucking em
>>37939575
>Couldn't count how many times I heard some girl say "OH MY GAWWD he's SOO LIIITLE"
maybe cuz you are a bouncer? i don't think people would actually say shit like about a random 5'8 guy.
i'm 5'9 never got any manlet complaints so far, but i could easily imagine it happening if i tried to be a bouncer. in my mind when i think bouncer, i think like 6'1 at least
>>37939502
>is this basic cycle that everyone uses and have asked many times ok?
wait why did masT get banned
>>37939588
I know I'm just saying if you are a manlet like me, and want to be a bouncer don't shy away from it just because people don't expect bouncers to be short. All you need is strength, fighting ability and a bit of social skill. And it's a great job - you get to talk to hot girls, you don't really do shit, you get drunk for free, you get high for free, everyone knows you which gets you in places, you meet a ton of people that can open doors for you elsewhere. It's a good job for a younger person
>>37939589
I'm actually more concerned about the PCT , is stacking Nolva/Clomid at those doses the right way to go about it? Am I going to use too much?
>>37939614
Because mods are selfrighteous dyel nattyfags ofcourse.
Also, got my temp and BP checked while on 500 dnp. Had a migraine, needed a shot to kill the pain.
>mfw body temp on dnp 35.9
>BP 140/85 but I was trembling from pain so it was k.
Odd to see my bodytemp only go up by about 1c though. Its just naturally that low, measured in ear.
>>37939760
I get migraines alot, is there really a shot that gets rid of the pain? I get unbearable pain with them...
Thinking about getting a 3DS to catch up on all the Pokemon games I missed. Go is making me all nostalgic. Thoughts? Where's jerry?
>>37939334
No you are best anon. Powers of 4chan is resulting from anonymity. This is most powerful place on clear web. Trust me.
>>37939502
Is ok to be short man. Many short man have ruled over weaker men.
>>37939614
COMRADE MAST IS BANNED? mod are truly loving kolbasa in anus with no lubricant.
>>37939967
The fake Russian thing is annoying af dude
>>37939991
no it isnt leave him alone
>>37939967
Keep it up pls
>>37939991
Little 35cm arm you have are annoying anon but I not talking trash about it.
>>37940052
Sick neg lel
Reading about removal of kebab in Turkey. Sadly remove kebab has failed. Stay strong comrades. We will always continue fight until the dying breath. Kebab MUST be removed.
Never forget the difficulty of struggle against Islam comrades. May God forever bless Aleksandr Prochorenko. He is true hero of western society!
>>37940315
Obviously he had to be made into a pepe
>>37939615
I half agree but honestly most of boucing is SEEING what's going on. Aka being taller than everyone. Also intimidation. Nobody wants to fuck w me. I ask them to come outside to talk, I say they gotta go, they apologize and leave. Starting fights is the last thing I want
Maybe it manlets have a box to stand on...?
>>37940346
He was young man who deserves better than pepe. You will never comprehend the thoughts that went through his mind before his ultimate sacrifice.
