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Steroids general
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>>37695495
First for cheerleading
>>37706376
i figure this is a good thread for discussion.
In /fraud/'s mind, other than steroids, what do you think is best for muscle gain or fat loss, or performance enhancement or what?
I'm working as a firefighter and honestly I'll probably end up doing a cycle sometime in the next few months because a lot of the guys already do it. But I got in a discussion with a friend today while lifting at the station. Other than steroids, he couldnt think of anything that ever was worthwhile or objectively helped him. I'm by no means obsessed with lifting/fitness outside of my job, but it was an interesting discussion about PED's and what normal natty people are general capable of.
Just curious on thoughts among those who have seen the other side.
>>37706408
What rep range do you use? You're one of the the few guys here who look good on even low doses so I figure you're doing something right
>>37706376
Im only 20 right now, is roiding at 21 a terrible fucking idea? I kinda already know it is, but I mean.. Would it be that much worse than starting at 24-25?
>>37706442
Maybe not exactly what you were thinking of, but carb cycling/timing. It's a nice addition to any nutrition plan, even for natties.
>>37706442
>Muscle gain
Steroids>prohormones>sarms
>Fat loss
Dnp>psmf>clen>ECA
>Performance enhancement
Too vague
Cyclists and sprinters and shit use EPO but thats useless for bodybuilders or powerlifters
GH is beneficial for everyone I guess
real talk does test e kick in around week 4 because i'm starting to get bacne and i'm hungry as a motherfucker
>>37706470
No. I started at 17 wish it was earlier.
>>37706525
i started at 18 and wish i could have started at like fucking 16 or so because that's when i stopped growing anyway
I have recently found out that a friend of a friend is a cuck
>dude is blading, looks average as fuck
>makes slightly above average money
>his gf is way out of his league
>she doesn't work
>takes his entire paychec every fortnight and gives him $200 to survive till next pay
>she goes and get her hair and nails done every week
>always talking to other dudes online
>constantly posting pics on Insta
>goes in to town every weekend
>she's slept with a bunch of other guys, including some guys he works with
>she basically does whatever she wants with all of his money and he doesn't say or do shit
I might have to bang this girl fraud
Cucking betas is literally my fetish
tfw it's been years since I sent a girl home to her bf with my cum dripping from her
>>37706542
Damn I hear you guys. Still gonna do a good year of extra research. But 21 I'll be around motherfuckers
>>37706624
well i am the guy that started at 18. the only reason i started was because i was low test (below 300ng/dl) and felt like shit, looked like shit, and could make 0 gains. 300ng/dl is below average 100 year old men for reference.
so yeah starting gear basically made me feel like i "woke up" from a long ass illness and made me feel alive for the first time since i was ~9 years old or so.
>>37706733
So you get it legally? What's your dosage
>>37706467
I've been doing brick's program of chest/bis, back/tris, legs/shoulders. 3 days of 5-6 reps, 3 days 10-12 reps, then a rest day. It's fun as fuck
>>37706572
Why does this sound so pathetic
Cuck shit isn't new for fraud but something about the way you say it just screams insecurity
>>37706572
Your insecurity triggers me af
What were your most fucked up injections ?
Did chest the other day and fucked it up. Now have a solid lump in my chest that is red but doesn't hurt all that much.
Did other side and no pip at all... Pinned too low
How do you guys dose your finasteride and dutasteride on blasts and cruises?
>>37706783
>legally
nope
the mental effects of low test + the mental effects of having a semi female body from the low test has fucked my mind up
so i decided to just blast fucking gear
>>37706572
>Cucking betas is literally my fetish
mine too
it's pretty much the goat fetish
desu just making a girl cheat on her bf is god tier, even if the guy isn't beta and especially if he isn't intentionally a cuck
>>37706912
Worst pin was the first and only time pinned calves. I figured that it's s fairies big muscle and ready to get to, should be easy peasy.
I hit near a nerve and my calf started to spasm. I panicked and let go on the needle. I then watched in horror as the pin bounced wildly as me leg twitched.
>>37706912
>chest injections
why
>>37706519
are you the real nigga bulk guy?
Know a guy who pinned his pec alot, got infected lost the pec. Ifbb tier physique otherwise
>>37707022
why is that even pec specific?
did he ignore the infection for a long ass time too?
>>37706511
>>Muscle gain
>Steroids>prohormones>sarms
>>Fat loss
>Dnp>psmf>clen>ECA
Why is a diet on a drug list?
>>37706993
Kek
That fucking guy
>>37706871
>>37706882
Your samefagging hurts
Only responding to the bait because it made me snort at the idea that fucking someone else's gf makes me insecure
>>37706960
Well yeah, I meant fucking girls who are cheating
Lost my virginity to a girl who was cheating, so I guess that's probably part of the reason I love doing it
>>37707035
Because its a tool just like drugs, one that a lot of people aren't aware of.
>>37707040
Oh it hurts does it? Is it an ache or a stabbing pain?
>>37706962
What the fuck. I only ever hit a nerve once and it was in my quad but it didn't bounce around just twitched once
>>37706965
Tren+test p cycle. Need them different injection spots
>>37707073
Inbetween your toes bro
>>37707069
More of a constant irrelevant whine in the distance that I don't care about, but for some reason decides to try and make me think I should listen to it
I fucked up a calf pin. Hit a nerve and pinned the muscle sheath instead of the muscle belly. It felt like I got hit by a bat for two weeks after.
>>37707112
MG I'm probably one of the few here who actually somewhat enjoy you shitposting
But posting about some foaf whos a cuck and how you got a semi thinking about fucking his girl is just sad
why do fucking idiots pin the calf?
Is there a strength minimum I should have before roiding? Like 1000 lb club?
>>37707147
>cheerbro posts about fucking a girl who's cheating
Fuck yeah
>I post about maybe doing the same
Manlet pls no
Why is this sad exactly?
>>37707251
no, that's a meme
you probably shouldn't start if your bf% is high though. aromatization is a bitch
>>37707152
Cause we're dumb.
At the time I thought it would be easier then pinning glutes.
>>37707152
Because they didn't learn their lesson from calf DOMS
>>37707286
>easier
What?
Surely the pip would be insane?
>>37707280
Because he doesn't post ten paragraphs about how pumped he is to fuck some dudes gf
It happens, he posts about it and thats it
There's no planning and scheming like a roid fueled fetish goblin
>>37706511
PSMF??
>>37707311
>ten paragraphs
Right
>>37707280
>>37707311
Oh I had lots of planning and scheming going on. I stopped coming here very often when everything started happening with cheergirl though
>>37707330
Protein sparing modified fast
>>37706572
>>37707345
Look at how long this post is
Dude you're practically jizzing yourself thinking about it
>>37707281
how low?
>>37707355
>>37707357
Pretty sure I never even saw a single post from you saying you fucked her
Just weeks and weeks of build up
You made out with her a couple of times but that's as far as I was aware you'd got it.
Meanwhile entire thread is cheering you on.
I guess you're just a more likeable shitposter then me dude.
No fucking clue why, probably a height thing.
He's short too though
Its probably the autism desu
Jk bro you're alright
Seriously tho fuck you
Just playing man were cool
>>37706442
steroids are about the only thing a layman can take that will work reliably with no planning. That even a fucking monkey could use and be fine, literally.
everything else starts to delve into the territory of either needing to be careful as to not kill yourself or needing to be careful so as to not just waste it and piss money down the drain
>>37707378
Hella disappointed I never fucked her. I'm leaving in like 3 weeks for college so I'll be nearly 1000 miles away. No pussy is worth that far of a drive
>>37707466
Would you say steroids are idiot proof? As in even the biggest retard could have decent results?
Are there any studies on the long term effects of running a cycle in your earlier twenties as opposed to your mid twenties?
>>37707503
there are no long term studies period
>>37707472
Ah well
You're a cheerleader, you're surrounded by fit chicks
>>37707518
Cheerleaders are all fucked in the head man. More than the average woman is at least lol
>>37707498
well define decent, because more and more i see a lot of zyzz wannabes running tren, test and mast at huge dosages and they are skinnyfat 180lbers who started roiding at like 150.
decent results? For guys who otherwise wouldve looked like skinny-fat shits, i suppose a skinny-fat shit with some muscular development and a shitty veni vidi vici tatt is an improvement.
point being is if you "overdose" on roids you might get fever symptoms for a day and maybe a site infection that will probably clear up on its.
If you're a retard and you run say, DNP, on the other hand, you can literally die, and retards have died on it.
>>37707540
well yes i suppose by definition idiot proof regardless of my misgivings
plenty of bodybuilders are room temperature iq morons who got hyooge just off gear and consistently hitting the gym, successful steroid use does not require any intelligence beyond the rudimentary to not inject oil or water into a vein
>>37707534
I don't doubt it at all
But the crazier girls are the better the sex is
Bet you'd find a lot of them that wanna get smacked around while you fuck their ass dry
>>37707498
If you lift and manage your estro yes.
>>37707540
Hey guys, gonna hop on my 1st cycle real soon.
My plan is as following:
wk1-2 750mg test-e
wk3-12 500mg test-e
Will be taking arimidex at 0.5mg EOD and get bloodwork 2 weeks in to see how my test and estradiol levels are looking, any other values i should keep in mind and ask for?
PCT nolvadex, 2 weeks after last injection
I've read conflicting reports about using HCG throughout the cycle, many say it's good, many say it's not needed, i want to avoid as many sides as possible so i'm thinking of running it at 250iu's per day.
How does it look?
>>37707394
You okay man? lol
>JUST
So no more hitting on QT's at work. All these girls I've talked to are ~20+. Some girls mommy apparently wasn't to happy and decided to email my boss freaking out. These chicks are adults. Like I get it, but this is the real world.
Fuckin white knight mom jeeze.
>>37707736
Also got talked to for other various reasons, but that was one of the big points. Little butt flustered over that one.
>>37707665
Chad
What's the fraud opinion on derma rollers? I have some very bad stretch marks from being a fatass as a kid.
Any recommendations on a specific brand/kind, and needle size?
>>37707765
It hurts like hell on triceps and arm pits
>>37707762
i feel like with his face he has to have a big body for everything to fit and not look dumb
>>37707777
Checked.
Wasted quads tho
>>37707736
What's?
Someone's MUM complained.
An adults mum complained.
Holly fuck.
You don't wanna fuck anyone like that anyway dude.
Chicks who's mummy complains for them will probably not bang unless mum is at home to monitor the situation for her
>tfw cruising on 500mg/week of test-c
>>37707762
CHAD eats NOTHING and loses all his GAINZ
>>37707777
i couldn't care less about any pain, just the results
i plan on doing it everywhere but the main areas of concern i would say are my biceps, triceps, one side of my chest, my anterior delts, my fucking hips, and my thighs.
they aren't really noticeable at all on my thighs or triceps for some reason, but they are extremely obvious everywhere else.
>>37707787
I'm so pissed. My boss came in to work to literally tell me to stop hitting on women at work. I'm just trying to make my boring ass minimum wage job a little more fun. If your 20+ year old daughter can't handle a guy asking for her number, she shouldn't be living in the real world. Go back to highschool
>>37707796
are you being creepy about it senpai
>>37707796
Holy fuck lol
>>37707815
Not really bro. All I said to this girl was hey, blah, pretend I'm not at work for a second but do you think I could get your number?
>>37707789
been trying to run this meme on other boards with little effect
>>37707830
I know who told too, like out of the 5 numbers I got only one shot me down...
>>37707796
my mummy told me to tell you that mother knows best ok
It's really funny cause my boss does it too. Literally one of the girls I was hitting on told me she used to fuck him.
>>37707736
That sucks.
>>37707765
Never used one but i've heard good things.
>>37707787
age of consent in my state is 16. my friend (18) had sex with a 16 year old. her mom tried to press charges on him for rape.
baka bootybothered moms
>>37707889
Having a tren roid rage over it. People are fucked these days. Mommy doesn't need to fight your battles; you're an adult. Grow the fuck up, tell me no and move on.
>>37707856
Double kek.
>>37707905
Think he's mad I'm poaching on his turf rofl.
>>37707796
Far out
What is this world coming to?
>>37707839
Just give the cold shoulder
Tell the others she asked her mum to tell the boss just to get you in trouble
>>37707897
16 and not allowed to make simple decisions about her own life
Does her mum tell her what job she's going to get and where she will study?
>tfw you accidentally double up your dnp dose
wew, burnin up. lads
>>37707927
I'm probably gonna get fired in the next few weeks. I can feel it boys
>>37707939
I feel this deeply
My management are setting up to fire me
They're trying to put me in a position where they can claim I can't get my work done so they can then fire me for being too slow
Little do they know I've been working a fraction of my normal pace since starting there
No matter how hard they try they can't make me fuck up because I can do more work than half my work place put together.
>>37707939
Better start looking for a new job early then
>>37707939
Don't do anything by half measures then. If you feel like you're going to get fired might as well get all the numbers you can right?
>>37707961
Hope you get fired :)
>>37708072
Thanks senpai
Having government money instead of working will give me lots of extra time for lifting and achieving that dream of just being a fitness YouTuber
>>37708130
Yeah that won't happen either.
We all know you're a failure.
>>37707961
What do you do? Thought it was factory work for some reason
Since you guys apparently know everything is there a solution i could make from household ingredients that i can inject IV to kill myself, preferably as painlessly as possible?
>>37708360
ManletGains put your trip back on.
I just don't know where else to work. Working on my degree, so tired of working meaningless shit pay jobs that I could care less about being there.
>>37708360
why not just make "crystals"?
(don't actually do this)
>>37708369
Whats your degree, chemistry? Help me out:
>>37708360
>>37708360
No, pick up some heroin on the darkweb and OD
Most painless way to go
Should be able to pick some up cheap if in US
>>37708393
That doesn't seem good enough since that retard lived
>>37708397
Criminal justice. I'm going to be a roided up monkey cop
>>37708426
I was/am considering that but i am too scared of getting caught and just going to fucking prison instead. Isn't ordering recs retardedly risky compared to gear?
>>37708444
why not just OD on sleeping pills like a normal person?
mix in some alcohol
>>37708444
why not helium and face mask? you can always tie a belt to a door knob and knock yourself out forever.
Are any online retailers reliable for getting test along with PCT?
id rather just get them in person. Ive been lifting for years and want to take my physique to the next level but dont know how to get ahold of some gear(preferably anavar or test). How chill are most gym bros about giving you a line on a hookup. I work with a guy thats on juice and talks to me about it but im nervous about asking him. I haven't known him for long and feel like it would awkward just straight up asking him.
Suggestions?
>take ibutamoren for joints for 2 months
>nothing
>take bio grow for a week
>joints feel fucking gr8
>why?
Took bio grow b4 ibuta JSYK
>>37708444
No lol
Chances of getting caught darknet are significantly less than buying gear clear web like we do
Even if you did for personal use amounts you'd get a slap on the wrist
>>37708481
Everyone here orders online
Also
>Var
LONDON
>>37708481
don't actually ask people you don't know for steroids lol
everyone orders online, it's safer and the risks of getting bunk are much, much lower as long as you do your research
google r/sst
Can anyone redpill me on trestolone
>>37708519
Good gains, ridiculous aromatization
Aromatizes into methyl estrogen like dbol which is like super estrogen
lpl
>>37708530
This, but great gains. Allegedly stronger than tren.
>>37708530
>>37708535
It really has me interested, like apparently 250% more potent than tren, and has legitimate medial research backing it for the purposes of male birth control and hormone replacement therapy.
>>37707581
pls respond
>>37708510
are the verified sources legit? What are the odds of it getting caught at the boarder? I dont make a shit load of money and would be pissed if my delivery didnt come. Thats why id feel more safe doing it in person.
I think if i maybe asked the guy at work for some advice on ordering online he might be like "yo i know a guy". Im not sure though.
>>37708583
Don't cycle faggot
>>37708600
Reddit sst
These peoples livelihoods can be ruined with a single shit review. It's perfectly safe. And $200 isn't a ton of money. Order domestic and customs isn't an issue.
>>37708583
Arimidex is absolute shit unless you have pharma. If you don't, consider doing yourself a favor and getting aromasin just incase the adex is bunk, underdosed, or provides unbearable sides
frontloading for two weeks as a beginner is stupid, no idea why you're doing that. I'd also extend the cycle to 18-20 weeks, 12 really isn't a lot dude
if you want something more than the basic bitch 500mg test/wk, pick up some anadrol tablets and run them after you're comfortably suited to the test. they are barely hepatoxic and (if you're concerned) you can use them with tudca. Anadrol does not aromatize.
run 50-75mg pre-workout for 4-6 weeks, using a time on/time off protocol
furthermore
>any year
>cycling
if you're worried about your PCT, there's a lot of information on /r/steroids but you seem fine t b h
>>37708494
Your ibuta is bunk.
>>37708629
hey JJ, been considering going vegan for health benefits, plus saving bambi is nice i guess
any noticable differences in overall health (blood pressure, acne/skin shit and general oiliness/sweating, so on) since devouring plants? What are good sources of protein as a vegan /fraud/?
>>37708442
>unironic cj degree
>>37708519
>>37708530
>>37708535
>>37708560
>trestolone
check back in like 3 months for a trip report
>>37708616
adex is fucking retarded anyway, and unless you grow bitch tits every time you're within 500 feet of a bluray of the notebook you don't need letro
>>37708647
>vegan
>>37708696
>nd unless you grow bitch tits every time you're within 500 feet of a bluray of the notebook you don't need letro
fucking kek
>>37708696
>tfw i cry when i'm within a 200 foot range of vhs of the notebook
what do
>>37708714
use bare minimum replacement doses of test for physiological functioning and start getting really enthusiastic about compounds with little to no aromatization?
fuckin' rocket surgery, boyo
>>37708696
My passion is to be a cop, physical hands on work. Where everyday is new and I can basically make my own rules ;) and be my own boss in the moment
Of course I'll shoot for higher. But policia alone is fine.
>be me
>naturally high e2 which hasn't given me any issues other than really bad bloat
>have played around with a few different aromatase inhibitors to drop water weight and improve definition when i'm at sub-10%bf
>have the liver of a 14yo dead dog
>aromasin and arimidex both give me elevated alt/ast and cholestasis symptoms within a week or two of use, even with tudca and shitloads of water
>haven't tried 7-keto dhea and probably won't since 1-dhea made me sick
>chag is basically otc cytadren which is notoriously toxic, cross that one off the list
>topical formestane was amazing and had no side effects but is now banned and impossible to find
only one left to try is letro
am I fucked? can I never run cycles if my body sucks ass at metabolizing ai's?
anon from last thread who bought galenika test
thought it was funny
>ask for "testosterone"
>??? no clue
>say "testasterona"
>the ladies run to the back
lmao
Also it's in Montenegro for those of you asking. I had to go to a couple dif pharmacies since it's not a commonly stocked item. gona run 750mg and blow up for the 10 weeks Im here lol
>>37708777
cj degree is fucking retarded
get a real degree in some useful stem field, the only thing cj will do is give you the retard mark and stack you up against eleventeen other dumbshits with the same worthless degree as opposed to something that lends them a unique perspective and approach, something computer-related that doesn't sound like university of fucking phoenix threw a bunch of buzzwords at a wall and ran with what stuck
especially if you've got actual aspirations past being a statie
>>37708779
gonna take a wild guess that your body isn't making enough cyp3a4 to properly metabolize shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYP3A4#CYP3A4_ligands
look at inducers
>>37708807
send me like 200 amps
>>37708360
air
>tfw you'll never be friends with Jerry
>>37709057
yeah that would be very painless just inject it into your vein
>>37708530
>Aromatizes into methyl estrogen like dbol
not completely true
trest aromatizes into 7α-methyl-estradiol whereas dbol aromatizes into 17α-methyl-estradiol
idk what the implications of this are tho
>>37708770
what compounds do you recommend for bulking if sensitive to e2?
anything but tren is p fuckin gay tbqh and i cant run that all the time cus muh heart and kidneys
Best ways to lower test enough to get a script from my doctor?
Im 22 and obviously have healthy test levels but im wondering if there is shit i can do to make it drop dramatically long enough to make a hormone test say its low.
I know they dont prescribe enough to run an effective cycle but i was thinking of saving up for a couple months then doing it.
Also, would they give me a pct if i went there and cried about muh bitch tits or is it too late if i already had some estro side effects?
>>37709109
Anadrol, sdrol, epistane, tren, EQ
>>37705461
Sorry I went off to watch game of thrones and then I passed out. I would start with 3 scoops and adjust from there.
>>37708616
frontloading for two weeks as a beginner is stupid, no idea why you're doing that
Simply to make sure i use all of the test I have.
>Arimidex is absolute shit unless you have pharma. If you don't, consider doing yourself a favor and getting aromasin just incase the adex is bunk, underdosed, or provides unbearable sides
I thought aromasin is an irreversible inhibitor and that scares me more than the possible sides of adex, is that a stupid concern?
>>37709143
How fucking good was it dude
It was like the perfect ending to every story arc
No cliffhanger bullshit
The Jon snow thing was fucking huge as thats been a pretty popular fan theory for the last couple years among book fana
>Consume 1500-1600 calories two days ago, next day weight went up .4kg
>Consume 4-5000 calories yesterday, weight didn't change at all today
Well then. I think I'll go back to eating less anyway.
>>37709159
A lot of shit went down. I haven't cared for this season as much as some of the others because the books are so good but it was definitely cool to see more or less a preview of the next book. I have noticed that people that have not read the books seem to really like this season.
>>37706376
hello /fraud/bros
can you offer me your opinions on osta-red and/or red-pct?
>>37709212
Tbh I wasn't expecting a lot from this season but it's probably been my favorite yet
I think since veering off from the books they've done a lot of stuff to cater to the fans, and I fucking love it
>>37709217
lol
When you pin every 3.5 days, do you only pin VG (alternating left and right) or use more sites like quads, delts etc?
Also, how deep do you go into VG with 1" needles?
Anyone here do ghb?
>>37709253
hello friend i am looking for more fleshed out opinions than "roids>no roids"
thank
>>37709320
Unless you are shredded as fuark(like 6%), I'd go all the way in with a 1" to VG.
Personally, when I was only pinning twice weekly, VG was all I ever used and never had any issues.
>>37709217
>osta-red
good if youre a girl, otherwise useless
>red-pct
completely worthless except for the nac, which is still overpriced as FUCK
Anyone experience with this? Can someone tell me something about it?
>>37709411
its da bes
>>37709384
ok well thanks i guess i won't bother
is there a why? obviously the effects aren't comparible to roids but not even for a natty lifer with potentially low test?
>>37709411
iss fo maek u dangeroos
>>37709545
minuscule effect and test suppression
if you have low test you should get it tested and get trt
Why do i feel fatter and have less vascularity even though my skinfolds are either the same or slightly lower?
Would water retention not increase the skinfolds?
>>37709596
thx for replies brother
>>37709565
Ve must deel viz eet
>>37706442
> i dont lift
>gonna do roids in a couple months
pls go
>>37706962
what is one supposed to do when he hits a nerve and his leg goes ape shit?
didnt happen to me before, but it probably will at some point and i dont want a needle to go spastic in my leg.
>>37709847
Keep the pin steady so you don't shred yourself, pull it out, replace needle with a fresh one, and pin a new injection site.
I've never had muscle spasms because of it, but I get a pins and needles feeling all over my body. Was scary as fuck at first.
>>37707898
whats your job, faceless?
anyone have luck with clearskypharmacy? more specifically, their asin. planning to make a large order to save some money and don't wanna get 270 pills of bunk asin
last batch was good but that was >a year ago and it wasn't AP aromex
>>37708616
You are a fucking moron. Why are you handing out shit advice?
>>37706993
i'm gonna refrain from identifying myself anymore since i don't want to ruin that bitch nigga tiderbrahs mood and shit
Starting my first deca run @400mg a week, along with 500 test as a base. No caber on hand. Stupid? I should get some caber first, right?
>>37710149
Yes
Feeling like my tbol is bunk or low dosed winny :(
Never tried tbol before so was excited for new feels.
Instead my feet and legs are achey and my pumps are no different.
guess its to be expected with ugl tbol
>>37710184
Thanks. Worth stocking up I suppose as blast after is gonna be tren ace.
So is there ANY way to tighten loose skin? It reaaaaaaaaallly fucks up how I look, especially on my arms, thighs, and stomach area
Obviously you can grow your arms and legs, but that won't work for the waist area.
>>37710292
i am really fucking unlucky too, only lost around 55lbs of fat from my fatass mode but i have a SHITLOAD of loose skin and stretch marks
My second pin today lads. This time, blood came out after i took out the pin.
not feeling any symptoms of high e2, so not taking aromasin yet.
Does high astro decrease libido?
Here's a study supporting that high estro does not destroy libido As much as low estro.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24928451
What are your personal experiences with high estro, and low estro respectively?
>>37710363
The only time I've ever had low libido on cycle was when I crashed estro dosing asin too often during my first cycle. I don't aromatize much though so I don't really get super high estro even without an AI.
Never been above 500mg/w either just for the record.
>>37710379
how much did you take?
>>37710433
I was running 12.5mg EOD and it crashed me hard.
I currently run 12.5mg e5d when on a 500mg test blast and that does me fine.
Always used pharma asin.
Don't bother with it on cruise and never had anything worrying come back on bloods.
>>37710347
You pin twice a day?
>>37710447
damn that's really a lot.
>>37710450
no i mean second pin of my cycle, i do every 3.5D
>>37710379
Was your dick working with crashed estro?
Currently on test e only, doing a regular high volume arnold split
Read a lot about doggcrapp lately, and it kinda makes sense
You guys got any experience with dc? On and/or off cycle?
The one thing that bugs me the most is only lifting 3 times a week
Feels kinda bad man
>>37710469
Yes, barely though. And my boners were pathetic compared to normal, and would go soft if stimulation stopped for a few seconds.
>>37710488
Fuck I couldn't deal with lifting only 3 times a week on cycle.
Aside of it making you feel shit it is actually shit because you are wasting potential gains.
>>37710457
Blood happens. Not something to worry about
>>37710488
lol lifting 3 times a week... dude that is a waste of gear and time
>on tren
>take shower
>comb hair afterwards
>0 pieces of hair on the comb
S A T I S F A C T I O N
can't wait until i start losing my hair just so i can get it over with
>>37710205
sounds like winnny to me
I've been on it for 4-5 days only so far, so i've not increased working out days. How much time does it need to increase my recovery time?
>>37708360
Why not join the military, inject 2 g Tren, become a vagabond in another country, etc?
>>37708442
>>37708777
Major in STEM, become cop if you fail.
>>37710570
used that 'Titanic' opener, oddly enough worked ha
>>37710569
youve been on what? creatine? roids? a bean only diet?
>>37710638
test e m8
>>37710665
4 weeks then
>>37710670
ok then, until then, i'll keep working out in normal speed
>>37710688
thats why you combine it with orals, they kick in in a week and then you can discontinue using orals after 4 weeks.
> subq leakage on last two injections
> flowing down to knee, hurts like a bitch
> UPS is mad I can't work at an inhuman pace
> "squat down to pick up the package; do it faggot"
I shouldn't admit I have an 'injury', right? How would I even explain it.
>>37707961
> I'll just work harder; that'll show em
>>37710522
> comb hair after shower, no hair on comb
I hope this is bait.
>>37710612
Yeah, it works. Here's some others I didn't make up...
> If football in bio:
> Are you a Patriots fan?
> Damn, I was looking for someone to deflate these balls.
> If black:
> I'd buy a million Wonka bars for a ticket to your chocolate factory.
Otherwise I go for catch-22's.
>>37710693
meh, it's my first cycle, did not want any extras
just got prescribed 20mg citalopram ED
am I gonna make it now guys?
Anyone have experience with etizolam for anxiety? Is it worth it?
>>37710755
extremely effective
extremely addictive
>>37710786
Ah shit. Seems like every anxiety treatment is addictive as hell except for therapy.
>>37710736
>not fixing your depression through diet,behavioral and lifestyle changes
>falling for the pharma jew
>>37710870
fuck off normie
>>37710736
>get addicted
>do fucked up shit for 6 months
>come off
>fix your anxiety without meds
This is the basic cycle
>>37710736
It does nothing to help you. It makes you smile but you do not feel like smiling. You still feel like shit.
As the others have suggested behavioural, diet and daily routine changes will help you above all else.
>>37710985
>drink alcohol
>use recreational drugs
>"I don't know why I have anxiety issues"
It's truly amazing
did FL end up fucking that 18yo?
>>37711031
>>drink alcohol
>>use recreational drugs
Never did any of those while i had 'anxiety' I was just a fucking shut in tard.
ha
>>37711092
He's be as well fashioning a bride from all that loose skin of his once he gets it chopped off
>>37709939
pls
Is age important when it comes to starting a cycle?
I've heard conflicting information, I'm 18 and want to hop on a cycle but I'm afraid I'll fuck up my future hormones. I'll be ultra careful and plan perfectly, but I'm still worried about the side effects. Most people say to start roid at 22+.
Damn fraud is salty this morning.
>>37710829
yeah, i've been fucking with tramadol recently and my workouts have been boss since my well being is through the roof but there's no way taking these frequently is good for me at all. My tolerance is up and i'm already on two pills
>>37706376
Will roids make you pop for illegal drugs on piss tests in the military?
>>37710705
why would the hair thing be bait
>>37711364
no
>>37709328
Fuck yes
>>37706376
Sup. I don't know anything about steroids. Can you teach me?
Is there any anabol steron that's legal in the greatest nation in human history (U.S.A.)?
>>37706572
Hey at least he roller blades. He can have fun on the streets, with no care in the world.
>>37711667
no
no
>>37711718
Then where do you get your illegal sterons
>>37711747
no source talk go away pls
>>37711667
r/steroids
Been a minute bros
So busy with school and now distracting myself with useless bullshit I've been cruising 250mg test with no real progress for past 3 months. 175 5'9 @10-11% bf. Think gf and life has made me complacent.
Inspire me to get back to the fraud lifestyle
Missed u guys tho
doing my first cycle, blown away by how easy it is to build muscle and get stronger
and im only 12 days in
kinda feel guilty, feels like im cheating
I hate to be that guy. But I'm having a hard time finding where to buy dbol. Anyone know where a might be able to procure some?
>>37712099
>Cheats
>Feels like he's cheating
Here's your (You).
>>37712105
see>>37711752 and >>37708510
and >>37708614
maybe try reading the thread first atleast
>>37710736
Get something that actually works like Venlafaxine.
It doesn't really make you happy but it balances your mood and at higher dosage gives you some sort of motivation to get things done.
Take it and fix your depression, the meds don't cure them, they only help with symptoms.
>>37712099
what are you running?
>>37709228
Ya I have heard that a few times from people who haven't read the books. There is so much more detail in the books and my inner nerd needs it. Not the super sped up version in the show.
>>37710363
My dick works better on really low estro. Not as well on high estro but it still works.
>>37712121
Thank you. And sorry I was having trouble going through shit post and got impatient.
>>37711981
No.
>want caber
>want accutane
>want DNP
>can't find reliable UK sources with good shit in stock at cheap prices
FUCK
>>37707251
no strength minimum, but you should be able to lift with decent form before you start. lifting like a noob with enhanced strength will fuck your joints especially because test inhibits tendon growth/healing.
>>37711981
>gj
Mistake
Dump gf and continue to acquire gains and ascend with the rest of us
>>37707498
just run proper pct (or BnC) and keep an eye out for high e2 and you'll be fine.
>>37712329
Sometimes you have to pay some money
Caber is always gonna be expensive
Running tren in general gets expensive
>>37711148
will stop you from growing but that's about it provided you actually are careful and not as stupid as everyone else who says that
gettin those masteron delts back
does anyone have experience with GH for acne scar?
I have bad (not as bad as some, but worse than i'd like) acne scars and I've heard GH can be quite helpful in that regard and so I'm considering running mk677 @25mg ed and cjc 1295 dac (gh bleed's just a meme) for a few months, would you expect that to help?
>>37712801
GH only helps with acne scars if you use it as a suppository
>>37709411
>2016
>buying anything supplement companies make
Everytime I check you guys, I keep seeing tren
tren tren tren
if you love tren so much why don't you marry it KEK
I'm sorry, what I really want to ask is what's the longest anyone has run it, does it really have no side effects?
>>37712929
>does it really have no side effects?
who the fuck has ever said this...
>>37712929
I say masteron and test.
Bulk = test 750mg
cutting = test 250mg and if you're lower bf you add masteron 300-400
>>37712929
I ran it for the best part of a year
It mist definitely does have sides
>>37712986
He didnt ask about any of that
>>37713052
I don't care.
Most people that use tren over here, don't even look like they even use tren. Which makes it imo overrated anyway
>>37710489
how did you "heal" your crashed estro?
in other words, what do i do if i fuck up with my aromasin im gonna run this cycle?
>>37713086
most people who roid don't look like they roid, doesnt mean roids are overrated
>>37713086
says the guy that use test for anything other than test base for bodily functions.
>Don't come here anymore
>decidede to check in and see if anything has changed
>manlet is still an insecure beta who lies and exaggerates like crazy to make himself feel better and look cooler
>masT till post Breivik pics and lying about what he takes
>Cheerbro still being an attention whore faggot
>anons still asking beyond retarded questions
>mossad stil posting all cryptically and sporadically, as interesting as ever. only person worth reading here
>brick still knows absolutely everything about everything
is that faggot chem still locked up?
