Cycle off for a bit then hop back on. If you can schedule the start into a rest day or a joint recovery week, thats probably optimal.

>>37637304
but what i meant is i've never felt any big difference, not even when i first started.

anyone have recommendations??

>>37639069
Stop wasting your money on shit that's mostly caffeine but costs 6x as much, just use Caffeine pills and ephedrine. Creatine isn't a preworkout, and the other two are just amino acids so they're basically doing nothing unless you don't eat protein anyways.

>>37639178
Beta alanine causes a tingling sensation in your fingers and toes like electricity is running through them.

>>37639178
>ephedrine
What do you use for ephedrine? I just take a half a caf pill for pre what are you doing?

Just do what I do

>tablespoon of instant coffee directly in my mouth, wash it down with water
>take a b12
>take some niacin tablets
Costs like 1/80th of the price and works better

>>37639178
yeah if i would have known it wouldn't work i wouldn't spend my money on it. how do you find out if something works? looking at it? genius.

>>37639214
this sounds like the stuff i need...

I started on gnar pump and liked it. Switched to Savage Roar and I'm just gonna go back to Gnar Pump. Savage just doesn't give me energy at all

>>37639698
just looked at both pw's and it seems the savage roar has fuckloads of caffeine in it... could it be that too much caffeine cancels out the effects of other substances?

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>>37637275
If you can't feel 375mg of caffeine then there is something wrong with you.

>>37640046
what is wrong with me?

>>37639214
beta alanine is a weak stimulant, the right way to use it is like creatine, you are supposed to saturate the blood. If it tingles alot that means you are carb depleted or you don't take beta alanine often enough

>>37640160
Either you got a shit product or you have some kind of massive tolerance to caffeine. Try caffeine pills on an empty stomach. Hell, try ephedrine as a pre workout. Not only is it a stimulant but it also opens up your airways a bit. I've never liked pre workouts. They're expensive and I would rather just pack my own pills.

>>37640264
i'll have a look into it. sounds great.