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A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults, bullying, and shitposting to a minimum.
>Doping news
http://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/
http://www.iwf.net/2016/06/15/public-disclosures/
http://www.iwf.net/category/anti-doping-news/
https://www.olympic.org/news/statement-by-the-ioc-executive-board
>How to Snatch w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
>How to Clean & Jerk w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy
>Pas notes about the Chinese System
http://chinfl.blogspot.sk/2016/02/notes-from-china.html
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>Everett Basic Novice Program
http://imgur.com/pCKsrOM
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/
>Takano Example Programs [CIII, CII, CI, CMS]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8AqZyApAyeSx-AoX3drVwpQEAJzVDvAJsE9PKoPwZw/edit?usp=sharing
>Mobility stuff
http://www.catalystathletics.com/video/section/2/Mobility-Flexibility-Training-Prep/
>Useful videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
>Helpful blogs
yashathoughts.com
chinfl.blogspot.com
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
Can someone please check my low bar form?
https://youtu.be/dBYD7EvzTvM
>>37603413
>asking about lowbar form in /owg/
kek
>Tfw Ilya got popped
>>37603413
>you set the pins too high
>you are lifting baby weight and your form will change hugely in 2 weeks
>you have a terrible buttwink
>you are doing low bar when god tier high bar exists
this is OWG desu, go to PLG if you want real advice.
>>37603413
looks like shit tBh fAm
>>37589226
>meniscus tear might be recurring
Hold me brehs
>>37604751
How did I reply to a random post in another thread
>>>/wsg/1135798
>people on wsg critiqueing olympic lifters
>>37604803
who keeps making these threads
most of it are my oc posted here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFBabCw4vQ&feature=youtu.be
i do 115/145 now btw
>>37605254
those were pretty sexy desu desu
>>37605254
Noice.
>>37605254
What kind of platform is that?
Specs please and thank you
>tfw two fav lifters got popped
why do I even do this...
At least it gives us natties a chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whBL5l4CMls&feature=youtu.be
i snatched 117
>tfw wrist pain
>>37605947
dat ankle
>>37605947
i don't get how these slow shitty technique guys like you can lift so much.
>>37606021
ATTENTION THREAD
THIS IS BAIT
LET MY REPLY BE THE ONLY ONE
When I back squat I can feel my upper back get tighter and tighter as I go lower, until it gives and then my whole back rounds.
What's going on and how do I stop it?
>>37605947
how many steroids are you take
>>37606087
Probably hamstring flexibility. Can you touch your toes?
>>37605254
hey comm
have you noticed that since you improved your timing and stopped pausing all your cleans at the bottom, not only is your rhythm better but you're way more confident on your jerks
>>37606938
yes
only just read about illya failing a retest from 2012
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG0SIFqm1oG/
Hey I strict pressed 102kg
>>37607084
don't undersell your achievements durkz, that's 102.06kg
now what are you going to do, given that the the press isn't a competition lift for anything
>>37607116
it will improve my jerk when i make a stellar come back
>>37607321
oh ya im actually blue shoes on the dl
>>37607353
Ye im trying to get followers
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT AL LTHE ATHELETS THAT GOT CAUGHT AND THAT THE GREATEST WL OF ALL TIME MIGHT NOT EVEN LIFT IN THE OLYMPICS
>>37607407
Commie building his forces for the battle of /wlg/
>>37607411
Cause he isn't the goat now that he got caught
>>37607560
so who is the new goat
>>37607411
the greatest wler of all time is long retired dude.
>>37607698
Ilya is the greatest of the last generation/our generation.
>>37607411
Because we've talked about that plenty when it was actually news.
Now we're just waiting on more news.
>>37607926
Ah, I missed the hype, due to work as usual.
>>37607411
>>37608011
>>37607926
Yeah, I haven't been on /owg/ since they announced some of the retests came back as positive
So is Ilya automatically out of the Olympics now or is it up to IWF/IOC discretion
>>37608763
he said he will appeal it, and he'll know for sure by the end of june i think
he probably wont win though like lovchev
http://www.allthingsgym.com/ilya-ilyin-progress-tracker-spreadsheet/
Good memories
>>37608763
He's temporarily suspended. He can still appeal but... it's unlikely that they're gonna let him go unless he has a very good excuse and proof.
No more dreams now, only tears.
can't say I mind too much. Watching Ilya would have been fun but weirdly I'm more excited for the 85s. Okulov v Tao will be fun and I don't know if I care too much that Apti won't compete
Also 94s because of Moradi
>>37609637
>Tao
Just another fraud. Ilya at least was legendary.
>>37609714
hasn't been caught yet therefore natty
>>37609726
Fucking stupid logic. Ilya wasn't caught in 2012 back when they did the tests, that means he's natty?
>>37609737
means he was at the time :^)
plus, idk how calling tian just another fraud is really contributing to meaningful discussion either
>>37609749
>means he was at the time :^)
But he was not. The tests he just got caught in were from his samples from that period.
>>37609780
what are you trying to prove here, that I'm only allowed to like weightlifters who are world record holders
>>37609835
No I'm just mad the GOAT is kill and other frauds no one cares about are still around.
>>37609854
ye
the bickering it's causing is lots of fun to read though
http://wlforums.com/forums/showthread.php?1440-IWF-public-disclosures
>>37607698
so you're the one who posted those blue shoe nudes in /plg/?
>>37607025
How did you improve your timing
>>37610470
>inb4 sean makes post saying he's coaching commisar or commisar makes post saying it's sean coaching
>>37606087
You are not sinking straight down
Also, stop thinking about tightening your back and start thinking about not moving it at all
That helped me tremendously in squatting smoothly
>weightlifters with long forearms
Have there ever been any successful ones?
My forearms are long as fuck compared to my upper arms, and I keep reading that they're the absolute biggest dealbreaker when it comes to weightlifting, providing no mechanical advantage and only creating a ton of big disadvantages. Even heard that Polish screening process for children automatically disqualifies any kid with long forearms, no matter what other good perks he may have.
Am I doomed?
>>37611111
define successful
>>37611141
Gone to worlds and/or olympics
though I feel like getting to nationals would be a struggle...
>>37611145
if you're questioning this you're never gonna succeed
>>37611145
going to worlds or the olympics requires you to not only have an insane level of dedication but you need to be genetically disposed to it too
sorry man
>>37611183
>>37611192
could you at least point out some athletes with disproportionately long forearms?
>>37611201
why not do your own research?
>>37611218
I did and found nobody, out of the current generation's lifters at least
i'm about to give up desu
>>37611111
Kolecki
But who cares? no one here will ever go to the olympics because:
A) They're not on the drug program that everyone else is on
B) They're not naturally built for it
C) They don't have an actual coach telling them exactly what to do
D) They just don't have the genetic potential for the necessary LBM to get strong in their respective weight class
E) They didn't start young
F) They have other things to do besides lifting
How did you guys get into OWG?
>>37611479
Thought it was the best way to combine lifting and sports. I took a 2.5 month beginner course and then continued to lift in an oly gym
>>37611377
Unless you're a girl. Christine girard is a silver medalist now
>>37611479
Clicked the link.
>>37611339
How are you defining "long" forearms? Like longer than your upper arm, same size or what?
>>37611690
around 1.5x my upper arm
have to clean with basically a snatch grip
>>37611479
ended up in an oly-athletics gym because it was the cheapest around
saw jacked motherfuckers throw big weights overhead
tried it myself
ended up liking it
>>37611479
>start lifting for aesthetics ("bodybuilding")
>realize that it'll turn me into a weak homo
>start lifting for strength ("powerlifting")
>realize that it'll turn me into a stiff fatso
now I'm slowly getting into oly.
Even though it's just for fun, I have no illusions to ever be competitive, or even compete at all.
>tfw no oly gym within 50km, and even then it's across a language border
>>37611949
>my gym is 50km away
>i go there
lol dont make exkooses.
>>37612119
Okay, let me explain it in detail
>live in belgium
>3 official languages
>I speak german
>My french is shit
>My dutch is nonexistant
>closest oly gym is in holland (50km)
>next closest gym is in french speaking belgium (60km)
>also, it's a crossshit box
>don't have a car
>closest oly gym in germany is in cologne (100km)
>>37612233
just go to cologne then
maybe youd smell better you filthy fuck Lol
non oly lifter here.
will hookgrip fuck up my thumb in any way? i want to use it for my deadlift instead of mixed grip.
3 plate dead felt ok in terms of pain and i read that it will only get better by time
>>37612413
oh look, a pussy
>>37612774
>wanting to lern hookgrip
>being a pussy
>>37612806
yes, your thumb pain is trivial and wont efect the lift unless youre a pussy
>>37612934
wtf is that, a screenshot?
>>37603413
Youre probably gone but a couple of things
>Horrible bracing. Find some videos on how to do it
>It looks like youre bending your spine in order to touch the pins. Dont force depth, it will fuck you up
>Hard to tell if you are sitting that far back on purpose or just weird proportions. You dont need to sit back with a squat. Focus more on hip-hinging. Sit into your hips. Practice naked in the mirror. Practice while holding a dumbbell in front of you (goblet squat). Try to understand what hip hinging feels like. DO NOT limit your knees. If they want to go out past your toes, just let them. Youll be more upright
>>37611377
>They have other things to do than lift
That's where your wrong friendo
>>37612934
taking a picture of your screen
are you retarded
>>37613405
Even worse... he emailed the picture to himself, downloaded it on his PC then posted it.
>>37612233
The Dutch all speak English though
Holy fucking save
>>37614299
Stupid to attempt to save but hey he did it!
Impressed.
>>37614299
>split snatching
>>37614378
fix your before you talk about others snatch
This is fucking bullshit. Everyone in the olympics is on gear that doesn't mean their accomplishments don't matter. I just want to watch the best of the best lift once in a life time weights because that's what the olympics are all about.
>>37614630
If they didnt test for gear at all, ilya could've hit 275kg C&J
>>37612233
Just homegym m80, I got a barbell and some weights secondhand for less than 100 euros at my parents place so I can lift even when I'm not at my usual gym. Its not ideal, but it's a start and you can get pretty far with enough practice.
>>37614630
this
everyone is on gear anyway so who gives a flying fuck?
>>37614699
and that'd be incredible
>>37615144
rur mums on gear xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOLZARZZZZZZ
?????????-?MMMMMMM???? xD LOL
>>37615232
what the fuck are you doing
is it possible to add 40kg to my total by august 28 to qualify for univ. nationals?
bw: 83kg
sn: 91kg
cnj: 104kg
bsq: 125kg
thinking of just running a pure raw strength program, as i think that's what's holding me back. should i just do SS? lol
>>37615892
actually, that's
sn: 92kg
cnj: 104.5kg
lol
>>37615892
my advice would be to squat more since that's what it sounds like. my front squat is heavier than your back squat and i can't clean or snatch as much as you
>>37616006
ive made good progress doing RSR, but is it the case that it's too advanced a program given my strength levels?
are there any weightlifting programs that emphasize overall strength? i feel that maybe i should try to do heavy deadlifts as well.
>>37615892
Tfw basically same classics but I fronsquat more than ur bsq
My excuse is I'm old and inflexible
But honestly 40kg is a lot to add in that time. Your ratios are strong so get working on the squats and pulls is probably easiest way to get your total up
>>37616181
>ive made good progress doing RSR
got a spreadsheet?
>>37603413
Your back is going way too far forward even for the lowbar squat. Wear a belt and brace as hard as you fucking can and you will be making the leg gains believe me.
No one in this general even does lowbar though so you should consider that.
How do you guys not get knee and elbow tendonitis?
>>37616356
Enough rest days
Curls or chinups once in a while
Fish oil
Non-shitty genetics
Natty
Good form on all lifts
>>37606161
Not the same guy but I have the same problem no I can't touch my toes
>>37616272
do you mean if i kept track when i did RSR? or if i used a spreadsheet to generate the RSR?
yes to both
>>37616219
yeah, i'm super flexible - did two years of ashtanga. i spent a lot of time (about 1.5 years) focusing purely on form - especially the snatch, since i really enjoy it.
some of the catalyst programs have "testimonials" of people making really solid gains.
anyone recommend a specific CA program?
>>37616394
>natty?
>>37616464
Unless you're taking huge amounts of HGH, steroids and training with a routine for steroid-users is gonna fuck up your tendons and connective tissue.
>>37616455
if you kept track. but if you're still making good progress on the program I wouldn't change it
>>37616487
yeah i printed a small sheet and just ticked off with a dot when i completed the required sets.
i haven't been following a program recently because of school. i was 5 weeks into takano's cii, but had to stop because finals week. i'm looking to start a new program tomorrow, monday, so i need to choose one now.
i have a nasty habit of not following programs.
CA has an RSR program that i may follow. there's also this 5 week program
http://www.catalystathletics.com/olympic-weightlifting-training-program/57/5-Week-Squat-Bump/
>>37616525
why not just go back onto takano's? you've got a tonne of spare time right now
>>37616568
yeah, i guess i can. but i'm not sure takano's programs are focused on strength, as much as they are on the classics. not sure. but i may start going to takano's gym, so maybe it might be best to restart his program.
all my friends suck someone please play aoe2 with me
>>37618102
If you would stop playing when I'm at work I would god dammit.
>>37618679
when do you get off work babe
I hear he's about to make a stellar comeback...
>>37619032
who is this semen demon?
>>37615892
my guess is strength like >>37616219 said
82/105 w/ a 145bsq @70kg here
do something like russian squat routine or whatever that is pure squats w/ less focus on classics for a bit.
i dont think itll be possible to add 20kg/month to ur total tho
>didnt see you had already done rsr
might not be bad to run it again if you made good gains.
