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ss or sl
greyskull
both are good starters
Anyone got that trappy screencap on this one?
>>37493441
Mehdi is a fucking stupid jew who wants to suck your money off your wallet and doesn't care about your results
Rippetoe is literally gainsjesus
Your choice
>>37493441
SS + DEAD
>>37493441
Where do all these meme pictures with question marks on them come from?
>>37493441
Literally doesn't matter as a beginner
>>37493891
>implying you need to buy anything to do either of the two routines
>>37493441
- SL has you start with babyweights. It will take you forever to actually start getting stronger. SS, on the other hand, tests you on the first workout and let's you kickstart progression
- SL has you add 2.5kg on every workout. This will make progression incredibly slow on the beginning, and incredibly hard after a month or two. SS, on the other hand, has you add as much as 8kg to your deadlift on the first few workouts, and it eventually lowers progression on certain lifts like the ohp and the bench to 1kg per workout. This means you will not get stuck on the 50kg-ohp-deload-loop everyone who does SL gets stuck on
- SL was "written" (copy pasted in a dumb manner and without any thought behind it) by a marketing team with 0 coaching experience, and is targeted towards couch potatoes. SS was written by an ex-professional athlete and a coach with over 3 decades of experience
- SL only has you work your floor pull 1.5 times per week. SS has you work floor pulls 3 times per week, 1.5 deadlifts (3x at the start) and 1.5 power cleans. This means you will get stronger on your deadlift doing SS, since you will be training it a lot more
- SL has you do barbell rows, SS has chinups. Chinups are a better back-builder as the range of motion for the lats is way longer. Not only that, but chinups will give you good biceps development, while rows won't as much. Only reason you should do rows instead of chinups as a beginner, is in case you can't do bodyweight chinups and the gym doesn't have an assistance machine or lat pulldown, and you're too lazy to do negative reps.
- It's way easier to finish maxing out 3x5 sets with perfect reps than 5x5 sets with perfect reps. Not only that, but doing 5x5 will exhaust you before the next lift
- SL tells you to deload too much. SS, on the other hand, only tells you to deload if it's 100% necessary
- SS trains both strength and power, and it trains your upperback a lot more with the power cleans
>>37493957
does it matter how fat I am to do either one?
(sorry for bad english)
>>37493911
they're cute
Split if you actually want to look like you lift.
SS/SL if you want to eat all you want and want to be a """powerlifter""" (fatass).
>>37493441
>>37493957
- SL has you start doing unecessary volume. SS has you start doing only as much volume as needed, 4-6 light sets as warmup and 3 max sets (1 for the deadlift). This means that once progression starts getting harder, and your body gets used to the volume, you can add extra volume to SS to keep progression rolling further. With SL, you don't have anywhere to go besides actually lowering the volume to 3x5, which is counterproductive.
- SL has LESS lighter sets for technique improvement. You start with just the bar, so every workset is a warmup set. SS has 4-6 light sets as warmup plus 3 worksets of light-moderate weight. This way you have more practise for technique, but you don't waste months doing worksets that are too light to provide any benefit.
- SL was made to sell an app. It's full of microtransactions and stupid shit like "add arms accessories to your program by only paying x dollars".
Only reason SL is a popular meme is because of marketing efforts. They launched a good mobile app when the market was still untapped, and that made it really popular among normies.
Not only that, but they paid a bunch of personalities of the fitness industry to shill for their program.
Rip, on the other hand, was pretty retarded when it comes to marketing and didn't put much effort into it, and only released a mobile app a few months ago, years too late. This means the only people doing SS were people who were lucky enough to join a gym with a SS coach, or did research and visited lifting forums. Marketing fail 101.
Over the years, a bunch of novices "graduated" from SL with slow progression, but they got ok-tier results and now recommend it all the time as if it's "as good as SS".
Thus, SL became a huge meme even though it's awfully programmed and not at all "just like SS".
>>37493957
Based.
>>37493441
For more info:
http://fitsticky.com/starting-strength
http://fitsticky.com/novice-programs
http://fitsticky.com/faq
And for videos and guides on how to lift with proper form:
http://fitsticky.com/how-to
>>37493957
>implying i am going to take lifting advice from a mentally challenged DYEL faggot
>>37493441
Ice Cream Fitness
>>37494021
Trappy, did you make the how to ohp image?
I attribute my ohp gains to that
ICF, if you have the time for it.
>>37494235
Then don't. Nobody cares what you do, this isn't tumblr.
I liked SL as compared to SS.
Also learning cleans can be a bit difficult but both programs are good go with whichever one you like
You'll stall on SL because of 5x sets which get converted to 3x anyways but seems like a waste of 2 weeks
>>37494243
>Literally just SL with a couple of accessories
>>37494021
trappy
not a troll, just curious
what are your stats?
