Weightlifting General
A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>happy lu edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW
>helpful blog on some technique quirks:
yashathoughts.com
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
old thread:
>>37027012 →
ITT: Roleplaying manlets who scatter their things all over the gym
literally a memesport
>>37062114
>people actually believe this
delete this now
>>37062194
Im a manlet and actually believe it .
>>37062194
it's true though
>>37062222
>2222
I'm not a manlet though.
I wish I was. Then I would actually be good at this sport.
knee is feeling better by the day. It's already costed me 1100$ in lost time and doctors notes though.... Anyway I'm eating my way up to 100kg now so I can be technically obese.
>>37062260
>wearing a belt
senpai.....
>>37062275
>being this stupid
>>37062366
>ever wearing a belt on anything other than max out squats
It's like you don't want to develop your erectors at all. kek
how to git gud in jerk?
started wl ~ 3 months ago
>75kg clean
>60kg jerk
wot do
Anyone have a link to the takano book? I don't wanna pay for that shit
>>37062070
>>37062758
>>37062771
>>37062778
>>37062788
>>37062758
Do you only know about lu and klokov lmao
>>37062798
what do you expect from someone that doesn't actually workout?
>>37062798
Just posting Lu cause it's thematic. Who do you want?
>>37062809
>>37062818
>>37062833
>>37062847
>>37062847
is 4.5 inches too small?
>>37062864
>>37062876
>>37062892
>>37062758
>>37062771
>>37062778
Why is Lu so kawaii? :3
>>37062902
>>37062865
I don't know how much an inch is tbqh
>>37062918
=11.43 cm
>>37062918
>>37062918
2.54cm
>>37062934
>>37062924
You'll be fine.
>>37062971
>>37062971
is 18cm too big?
>>37062971
a-are you just saying that to make me feel better
>>37062995
ree
>>37062983
>>37063007
>>37063034
>>37063053
Trappy can I bury my face in your ass
>>37063053
>>37063093
Only if you download DS1/2/3 :3
>>37063003
11.4cm is completely functional, and sex/pleasure is a lot more than just benis length really.
Besides, they all look big when they're up on your face.
>>37062995
No, it's good.
Has that CJ cummings kid already hit his peak?
He hasn't progressed in over a year, and looks like hes regressed a bit.
Is his career over?
>>37063444
Gains aren't linear anon
>>37063304
Watch your words trappy I just got paid and can buy all three games now
My nose in your poop chute is a very proximate reality
>>37063732
His technique is so bad I don't see him hitting 180kg clean and jerk for years.
>>37063764
HIS TECHNIQUE IS UNIQUE
IT WORKS FOR HIM AND IT WORKS FOR AMERICA
Cj is old and stale harrison maurus is hottest new meme lifter
>>37063764
you better suck my dick if he does this weekend
>>37063785
his career will be over when he tears both biceps and slips a disc in his back lmfao!
>>37063793
bitchmade boy couldnt eben hit 170 couple months ago
alex lee looks good for 185 though. Lee will go to the olympics, cj will sit his bitchmade nigger ass back home.
see you in china m8
>tfw peer pressured into a 93% fs double this morn
rip my deload
also it felt pretty good even though my upper back rounded quite a bit
>>37062399
Bad bait
>>37062455
Train more jerks senpai
why is dimas at the usa olympic trials/nationals
>>37064134
Doesn't he live out there? and i guess he like weightlifting
That or maybe he is there to merk Mattie Rodgers bumole
Heyo, commie, when/if you get in: did you build that platform in your garage? If so, did you use a blueprint or just slap it together based on what looked right?
I guess this question applies to anyone else that has built a platform for their home gym. Looking for plans/ideas for a sound-dampening platform. I've found a few models online, but I'm curious about other people's experiences, preferences, etc.
>>37062758
>you will never rim Xiaojun's toned and firm butthole after he sets a WR
Why even fucking live?
>>37064188
10/10 would merk tho tee bee aych lad.
>>37064188
>Doesn't he live out there?
no, when klokov met him at 2015 worlds dimas said he can barely speak english
https://barbend.com/pyrros-dimas-us-olympic-trials-salt-lake-city/
>>37064802
I would eat the ass
>>37064656
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/1895/How-to-Build-a-Weightlifting-Platform/
i basically did this but slight differences
>>37064910
Who knows then
>>37065026
i already linked u why, u fucking idiot
trappy is cancer. pls go away
>>37062260
Youre just a powerlifter playing weightlift.
Your form is shit and you refuse to work on it.
>>37065191
he's stronger than u, u fucking jelly weak fuck
do you think his form would improve if you tell him to make a change every day?
>>37065094
Chill out nerd. We aren't all autism gergor from ay tee gee about this shit
>>37065196
>do you think his form would improve if you tell him to make a change every day?
yes
He could have represented us, instead hes being a little bitch and not working on tech.
>>37065245
I agree dutkz could be v good if he cleaned up his tech and put as much into tech as he did squat but calling him a powerlift playing weightlifter is petty and shitty and you sound jelous
Like one of those guys who is like 'oh he lifts more but my tech is nice he's shit haha' it doesn't matter m8 u don't get points for style
>>37065276
its not about style, its about efficiency. his pull/squat to classic transition is so shit. He could be better.
>>37065326
Yes no shit. But you've called him out in a cuntish way and it makes you seem jelly
>>37065368
>makes you seem jelly
Ok and? I'm obviously not jelly if I want him to succeed.
>>37065379
The way you said he was a powerlifter pretending to be a weightlifter is a constructive way to show advice or support you retard
pas pls dont bully pat mendes
>>37062792
>>37062788
I wonder how well he'd do if he limited his rom.
>>37065821
What do u mean
>>37065793
Why are you defending a cheater?
>>37066025
why even watch sports amirite
>>37065498
its 4chan , my friend
Ive been trying to do 10-15 mins of non stop lunges for cardio, with some static handstand and pull-up work. First week in and i enjoy the sweat/leg pump i get from it but it's been cutting into my lifting, i think i just need to adjust to the volume.
Pros
>can do it at home
>don't need to go out into the blazing sun
>don't have to drive 15 min to the gym
>great cardio/volume builder
Cons
>it's been cutting into my lifting day
>i hope i don't grow a horse ass or build up imbalances
>>37066629
no one gives a shit you weak fuck stop posting this
Who's kid is this ?
>>37062864
>>37062847
>>37062833
>>37062818
>continues to post more meme lifters
trappy pls go
>>37062983
i made this webm stop posting it cunt
Hi guys..... girls. Ive recently got an 80kg power snatch, can I get a pat on the back?
>>37065191
>lifts more then you
Guess you're the fake weightlifter until you post your vids. It's called weightlifting. Not technique circlejerk
>>37066892
Nope, I power snatched 100kg without being a fatass,
>>37066892
martha just power snatched it too heheh
>>37066899
Dubs confirms, it's back to the basement for me.
>>37066910
Martha? M8 i don't fuck old women.
im doing it lads
goodbye split jerk
hello meme jerk (squat jerk)
>>37066991
dont do it you have so much to live for
>>37066991
Make sure to put a dildo on the platform to keep you from dipping too much.
>>37066997
commi have you ever gotten ankle pain in the front of your ankle when you bend it or touch it?
>>37067073
i get pain on the side or on the front if i do that sit on feet leg stretch
but not for no reason
>>37067087
I have it right now and it's really bothering me... what do?
>>37067100
ask pas or something
probably go easy on it
try to not do running shit
>>37067112
what is that sit on feet leg stretch you are talking about? I probably do it and I'll stop if this shit happens
>>37067116
i feel like it keeps the knee pain away
i normally sit more upright and dont actively do anything with feet. just lean back
>>37067138
so I SHOULD do it or I SHOULDNT
>>37067154
if you're the ankle pain guy dont do it
just take it easy and ask someone else probably
>>37067168
ok
ur my new best friend
>>37067183
do u want to be training buds
>>37067204
yes but ur too strong for me i keep getting injured and change my technique:(
>>37066991
i want to join you
>>37067342
better listen to deliuge then
>>37067342
>>37067365
how do I keep that tightness in the bottom position of the clean so I can explode out of the hole like a regular front squat??
>>37067388
i'm obviously not the one to ask about that
>>37067418
I always get crushed and then every single clean is a grind. Not explosive like a front squat. It doesn't matter if I'm cleaning 60kg to 100kg. It's all the same speed
Seriously something fucked up that I need to fix. I would love to know how because it drains me for the jerk.
>>37067388
by learning how to pull under properly and racking the clean perfectly so it doesnt crash on you
do the muscle clean
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEbR5Zfpt6I/
examples of how to pull the bar into the shoulders properly no matter how high you pull it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bIY0tE_oVo
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBfsu45Dqlo/
Just measured wingspan. 6'3"
>>37067973
just measured my dick size is 3
>>37068159
3 meters?
>>37065918
He means he wonders how well Lu would do if you saw off both of his legs.
>>37066974
this is martha. relatively unknown lifter for those retarded like u r
no one actually post her by me bcos no one knew she strong?
>>37067429
It could be that you pull the bar too high (use too much arms and traps) so the moment you drop under the bar, it crashes on you
Beginners have the tendency to pull the bar up to them, when you should just pull it to navel height and then explode under it
>>37069542
Disgusting blocky core
Shit tier wlfu
>>37069542
Really looks like Mattie is packing heat in this webm... Trappy isn't unique anynore Hehehehe' ;^)
>>37069997
Um no. Literally no good coach ever will tell you to short your pull. 'Only pull to bell button and go under' is just a meme
You should catch the bar where you catch it. Meet the bar. Never shorten you pull
Smh senpai
https://www.youtube.com/user/kirksman/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid
does anyone else enjoy watching chinese martin shkreli's videos?
>>37063806
>>37063785
Doesn't he train at the olympic training center? Or does he have a SPECIAL coach.
>>37066997
What do you mean lad?
As someone who wants to build more positional strength and move to WL soon.
Snatch or Clean deadlifts?
How many times per week if I squat 3x? Just once heavy controlled?
Reps/Sets?
>>37071522
Snatch and clean deadlift
Light weight until you hit correct pos
Increase weight aslong as you still maintain position. 5x3 or something
Soviets had a formula of what % of snatch your snatch deadlift should be
Something like 146% as they believe the excess in strength in positions was key to successful lift
I don't have the document on phone but might post later if anyone interested
>>37062809
>pat pat on chest
>right in the feels
>"you feel that guys, right?"
>>37063034
YES BLIET, HAHA OU OU
she strong and so qt
there's also the other 48kg who set the cj record that's also a jailbait qt3.14
OWG PLS
I see some people hitting the bar to their thighs / hip and after that you hear this bump sound and the bar gets in the air. Then again some people seem to smoothly slide the bar until it gets into the air
As a beginner this is confusing me. Who is doing it right?
>>37072903
Why do American women always wear shit singlets
>>37073150
Both can be right. Even where you hear and see a 'bump' it is not the banging that puts the bar 'into the air'
>>37073187
Thank you :3
>>37073176
because its free
>>37069997
shut the fuck up trappy
>>37074063
>everyone giving good advice is now trappy
I like this new meme.
>>37074167
no one cares deliuge
>>37071058
meme jerk is a meme for a reason
>new to oly
>feel fine after workouts
>today wake up at night, shoulders in immense pain, take aspirin for first time in years
what did i probably do wrong?
>>37062902
wow his form is pretty shit ;|
>>37074267
U did oly
>>37074267
You probably thought that "im an oly lifter now" and did a horrible workout with horrible form
>>37074167
Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice
Lmao you clearly don't lift either
>>37074417
This is literally basic level weightlifiting.
https://youtu.be/MXfkEW9WVNU?t=2m39s
>>37074063
Not even me, but I appreciate you keep me in mind like this all the time <3
>>37074302
His snatch is worse kek
But he's pretty stronk... and won the competition.
Though if he cleaned his technique (and wasn't banned) he would be able to reach way higher numbers.
>>37074971
klokov teaches it there but it's not very good to teach, normally people teach pulling as high as possible
>>37075075
Teaching to pull as high as possible has its purpose.
Teaching to control the height of the pull also has its purpose.
Both things should be taught and mastered, in my opinion.
>>37075126
And your opinion is shit because you don't lift
>>37075131
And you surely know a lot more than Klokov and russian coaches.
>>37075163
russian coaches teach a full pull though
klokov is pretty much the only one that doesnt
>>37075163
Trappy y u love klok so much
>>37075163
Appeal to authority don't work fuck boy
>>37075163
>posts one example of Klok teaching it
>hurrrr klokov and all the russian coaches teach it!!!!!!
You are a cancer
>>37075163
>i will never fall asleep with trappy in my arms
hurts to live
>mfw all this trappy-hate just because he knows way more about lifting than 90% of this board without even lifting
what's your excuse you illiterate lazy faggets?
>>37075326
But does she know chinese memes
>>37075326
Constantly linking videos and stuff that you googled doesn't equal knowledge fucktard
>>37075221
AFAIK they teach both. And so does Klokov.
The point of teaching to control the height of the pull in the context of the clean, is that:
1: Allows the trainee to practise catching the bar low instead of only power cleaning + front squat
2: Allows the trainee to develop proprioception of his body and the bar
3: Helps the trainee develop the technique necessary to not get crushed by the bar on every catch he does
In the context of the snatch, it also is important for training the bar path.
Not saying you shouldn't teach the trainee to pull as high as possible, though.
Both are important to develop strength, power, and technique.
Just my opinion, though. Weightlifting is a complicated issue and there are coaches around the world that all disagree with each other. There's no truth or cookie cutter answer to any of these issues, really.
See Godelli as an example >>37075010
He has far from what most people would consider "good technique", and is still able to win the WWC.
Every coach has its own methodology, and we've seen good results from people trained by coaches who use completely different methods and systems.
Just like with programming.
>>37075264
And your ad hominem sure does.
You should read up on fallacies before namedropping them.
>>37075369
All of the things you listed can be done while still teaching how to finish the pull
U just don't know what u talmbout
>>37075341
>she
>>37075326
>implyeng
>>37075420
Here's your (you)
>>37075369
personally i'd teach a full pull and then past that i only care about the athlete lifting to maximum
>>37075451
I remember you complaining about getting crushed by your clean catching.
So there's that.
>>37075451
if you trained with uncle and he gave you dat dere would you take it? shouldn't you be popping winny and dbol to do proper bulgarian anyway?
>>37074971
If you think that drill is to teach you only to pull to your belly button then 'dive under it' you've taken the wrong message
Literally EVERY coach will tell you to meet the bar where you meet it. Have you ever watched a good lifter warm up? See how they power there early lifts and squat them?
You should never cut your pull short. If you start cutting your pull with bitch weights, guess what will happen when you get to heavier weights...
>>37075553
You can see many lifters, including Lu, cutting the bar height short here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGe1TAp107U
>>37075163
Trappy, all Russian and Soviet coaches teach/taught a full pull
It's the most important part of the lift. You won't find anyone except that one klokov video you love to cite (which is aimed at crossfitters not weightlifters) who teach a cut pull
The Chinese have also done studies about this, about what height the bar should be pulled for a successful lift, and it's WAY higher than navel height
Sorry, but it isn't basic weightlifting 101 just because klokov said it. Expand your knowledge before you say stupid shit or you're just gonna get mud slinger at you like every time you pass off a klokov YouTube as the only true method
>>37075600
lmao that webm
>>37075623
>Trappy, all Russian and Soviet coaches teach/taught a full pull
Exactly what I said.
>>37075326
Watching klokov videos doesn't mean she knows shit
She literally can't cite an actual coach (she's probably never had one either)
But sure, follow her advice, cut your pull short. Probably won't matter for your 40kg snatch anyway lmao
>>37075650
>she
I want this meme to die
>>37075600
As you get better you can control the pull better and pull where you want to, that's what's he's doing not cutting the pull short idiot
>>37075600
I'm not sure you know what an incomplete pull looks like
>>37075672
>>37075677
You are arguing about completely different things, then.
>>37075648
You said as far as you know (source; your ass) they teach both
They don't. They teach one pull. A complete pull.
>>37075687
And your source is?
Trappy at least posted Klokov. You're just shitposting.
>>37075684
We are arguing with the original point
(Only pull to navel and explode under) which is wrong
Just because you misunderstood again and jump in to defend that statement isn't our fault lad
So, just like last week, trappy weighs in on a technical discussion, is wrong, then blames everyone else for her misunderstanding of terms and technique
When will this shit stop.
Deli can't you give her someone other than klokov (who isn't a coach) to learn from?
>>37075703
>(Only pull to navel and explode under) which is wrong
This is an assistance exercise with a very specific purpose.
Saying something is "wrong" is plain rubbish. Are muscle snatches "wrong" too? And tall snatches? All wrong, of course.
>Just because you misunderstood again and jump in to defend that statement isn't our fault lad
No, you're assuming I made a point I did not make.
>>37075701
My own experience with my own coach (who learnt undr Soviet coaches)
Ma strength has numerous things concerning % of height on his insta
You can Google for Soviet texts about the pull in snatch and clean
I'm not gonna Google it for you on my phone, because if you actually lifted and had a decent coach you'd realise you shouldn't need an article or a YouTube video anyway
But sure, cut your pull short. Good luck.
>>37075480
yeah
>>37075539
i'd take it
i dont know enough about ped or how to pass tests with them in your system to take them though
>>37075623
>The Chinese have also done studies on this
lol
>>37075748
I'm talking about the initial point, he clearly didn't mean it as an assistance exercise. He meant tht as 'this is how you pull' which jsnt true
I'm sure klokovs drill has its place but this isn't it.
I have trouble with my confidence whilst learning power cleans getting under the bar. Generating the power to get 80kg isnt so much of a problem, but anything over 40kg I always bitch out and catch it high in my hands. Anyone else have this problem? Always feel like im gonna overbalance backwards or catch the bar on my clavicles and smash them up. Any tips? Or is it a case of practice practice practice?
>>37075751
This is why I love /owg/
The autismo here has no brakes.
>>37075766
They have tho m8
Ur not king of Chinese lifting ukno that?
>>37075778
It's pretty autistic to resort to calling someone autistic just cos you feel sore that you're a weak faggots ;^)
>>37075774
Sure, but that original point wasn't mine, though. I never even quoted it.
>>37075751
Here's your (you)
Chinese teach to pull only as high as you need to btw
No point in yanking as high as you can
Also where you meet the bar has hardly anything to do with crashing
It has more to do with how you execute the pull under
>>37075796
u kno more about untranslated chinese texts than i do?
sho me the studies m8y :^)
>>37062455
Isolated Jerks, behind the neck Jerks and push press senpai
>>37075801
trappy where's my (You)
>>37075801
Dank meme lad
Also, I know you didn't say it, but you waded in with 'oh this is basic weightlifting 101 blah blah' when people pointed out it was bad advice
That's why people jumped all over you, because it sounded like you agree with the originally bullshit sentiment. Ya dig?
>>37075811
Ask coach ma he might send u them too ;^)
Itt: trappy involved in another derailing, again
So i can comfortably snatch, jerk, overhead squat and all that jazz but I'm getting pain in my right shoulder from behind the neck jerks. Flares up even with just the bar.
I'm guessing i probably need to roll it stretch and work on my shoulder and more mobility, but has anyone else had similar issues/ any advice for it?
>>37076012
Don't do them
>>37076090
ever again?
>>37075964
>conversations about weightlifting technique on /owg/ is derailment
You should try /r/fitness, they have pretty good no-trappy safespaces.
>>37075823
<(You)3
>>37076136
Trappy time for supa srs talk
do u acually lift?
if so, numbers pls
>>37076136
You just should've figured by now your presence causes shit, you have haters who will never listen and whiteknights who will always jump to your defence
You don't discuss, you put forward statements then argue you're way around criticism. This isn't discussion.
It's pretty selfish of you to insist on tripping when you don't really offer anything other than klokov videos. I think you enjoy the drama desu
>>37076242
bw 47kg
total test lvl +-9 ng/dl
Lowbar Squat 90kg
Front Squat 71kg
Clean & Jerk 68kg
Snatch 57kg
Power Clean 57kg
Power Snatch 48kg
>>37076275
Here's your (you)
>>37076242
Dat bich squat 800 pound.
>>37076304
any proof?
>>37076304
>>37076275 is right you know. you would get less people disagreeing with you if you took your trip off
>>37076304
Exactly my point, you can't discuss or take criticism, you resort to memes and goal post moving. Immature attention seeker you are.
Also you were asked for your lifting numbers, not you test. You did that to yourself, noone cares, you still suck.
>>37076304
proof pls. I doubt you've added 10+ kg to your snatch since you last posted your numbers.
Also
>lowbar squat
Lmao
>>37069997
>explode under it
That don't make no sense.
Explode UP, (then) PULL under.
>>37076353
This >>37069997 wasn't even me and people were already crying about me.
Just handle the bantz familia. It's 4chan, people will always be shitposting.
>>37076404
You might wanna recheck the archives bby.
>>37076381
Here's your (you)
>>37075726
Why do you insist that he's misunderstanding shit?
He doesn't know shit how can he misunderstand it?
>>37075748
Not last week no you don't claim that this is assistance, you were saying this is how to lift
Last week everyone was on your ass telling you you're wrong now suddenly it's just supposed to be assistance lmaooo
>>37076453
You're embarrassing. An actual disgrace.
Not only can you not lift and not coach, let's add inability for discussion and shameless attention whoring to the mix.
You'll have quit lifting within a year so I have that to look forward to at least
>>37076498
This is the weakest b8 senpai.
Gotta try harder, cmon.
>>37076480
>>37076480
Lol guess I'm too forgiving senpai but desu anyone with half a brain and/or a coach knows how retarded trappy is
>>37076520
Yeah everything is either bait or a meme when ur wrong huh
>>37070766
Everyone who's lifted with Martha know she got a dick
>>37076304
with those numbers ytf u acting like an expert all the time, gtfo
>>37076453
> It's 4chan, people will always be shitposting.
so are you implying that it's you who is shitposting? or people who are disagreeing with you?
if it's the latter case, take your trip off and less people will respond to you, ie disagree with you -> less "shitposting"
>>37076557
I would fuck trap Mattie desu
CAN WE GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT WEIGBTLIFTING NOE NOT SOME TRANNYS DELUSIONS PLS?
Trappy is right in this discussion
in clean shorter extension is preferred because you save energy
there are weightlifters who has full ext like tatiana and others who has shorter ext like klokov.
there is no superior way of doing it btw. just do whatever you can do flawlessly
a lot of you are numpties btw
>>37076673
>>37076673
I'll trust my coach rather than a mentally ill tranny and a guy who has made no progress in 2years thanks
>>37076774
why is it so hard to believe that people have shorter extension than others? do you not watch videos of people lifting?
>>37076794
The discussion wasn't about shorter or longer
It was about purposefully cutting it short
Can you even read
>>37076825
its the same thing
>>37075369
you can and should finish the pull whilst controlling the height
i dont think many coaches would tell you to cut the pull short to control bar height
>>37075684
it's quite annoying when you fail to articulate yourself well and then claim you won an argument because apparently you apparently didnt mean what you said
this seems to be a common theme in stuff you say
>>37076836
http://gwenweightlifting.blogspot.com/2014/05/two-common-styles-of-olympic.html
>>37076856
>>37076838
I knew I could rely on you to talk sense pas
>>37076836
No it isn't
>>37074210
But why?
>>37076867
klokov's extension isn't too different from that of chinese/korean lifters
im not seeing the difference here
http://chinfl.blogspot
.co.uk/2013/08/cleans.html
>>37076867
Most retarded thing I've ever heard. Terrible examples and explanation given too. Klokov doesn't do anything like she claims, neither does ilya. You can pause the fucking video and see klokov in full extension.
Gwen is a well known hack tho, so, yknow. I don't expect much else.
>>37076936
There is no difference pas, that article is awful and I'm actually surprised pent is buying into it, he usually speaks more sense.
>>37076936
also the frames gwen chose in her comparison picture are very unrepresentative of the actual lift
her full extension pic doesnt even show full extension, and the klokov series misses it even more
>>37076856
I didn't claim to win any arguments.
I articulated myself pretty thoroughly. It's not my fault people instantly make strawmen up in their heads when they see my posts, just so they can disagree and argue with me.
And then when I point out I'm not any of those strawmen, people complain I'm not "articulating myself properly".
Cmon now.
>>37076961
>like she claims
What am I claiming, exactly?
See, this is what I'm talking about. People simply make stuff up in their mind and start arguing with me about it, as if I held an opinion or something that I do not actually hold and have never even said.
you now realize all these cunts who went to other countries dont know better than u either
despite claiming that they do because they learned straight from the source so they dont have to figure shit out
lmao is what ive been saying these weak fucks dont no any better
>>37077167
Jesus Christ trappy, I was talking about Gwen. Look at what I was replying to
It's not all about you ffs, we've moved on. You're fucking annoying. Pas is exactly right. You don't articulate yourself well at all.
>>37077252
Sorry senpai my bad. I didn't actually read the Gwen article.
>>37075600
>including Lu, cutting the bar height short
i think this is what pas meant >>37077167
u say right there that lu cuts his pull height short, then when you watch the video he actually don't. then when someone calls you out on it
you say you didnt actually mean that, you mean something else we just didnt get what you mean
you know what i mean? u probably dont since you'll say in the next post that's not what you mean when it's clear that you do
>>37077265
This whole thing could've been avoided if you read everything properly first
>>37077287
We were talking about this though:
>Have you ever watched a good lifter warm up? See how they power there early lifts and squat them?
And then in the video you can clearly see that they don't just do that. There are many examples in the vid, including Lu, of not doing that, not powering the bar up and squatting down, even with light weights that they could power up.
I don't see any lack of clearance in this discussion.
The problem is, people made up in their heads that I'm talking about something else.
That's not my fault. I'm not responsible for other's strawmen.
If you read my posts from the start you will see my opinions and arguments are pretty clear.
>>37077306
It's funny because the whole thing could be avoided if people read what I said properly, instead of making stuff up in their heads and arguing about that.
But that's no fun for the shitposters.
form check pls
>>37077426
you see lu muscle snatching his warmups then full snatching it meeting it where he pulled it? then you could clearly see him doing that with his 60kg clean warmups, powering it then riding it down
i think you're the retarded, he said early lifts they power (ie catch where they pull) not that they try to power every light lift which is wasting energy. not that you would know that since you dont lift
ofc everyone else is wrong but you lmao
>>37077426
You're delusional and this is what you said happened last time, it didn't happen then either.
You make a point
Get called out
Claim it wasn't the point you originally made that you were making
Rinse and repeat
Anyway, CBA anymore, noone can get through you're thick skull
>>37077433
shut up hwan no one wants to see you catch where you pull the bar, that's incorrect according to resident trip, named trap he knows the correct way to lift
ur all wrong and retarded tell deliuge
>>37077483
hehehehehe
>>37077433
Sorry to break it to u but u seem to have a little hole in ur tights
>>37077505
woah! i did not notice that. thanks for the heads up.
>>37077469
You mean Lu does both things?
Like I said from the start? >>37075369
Interesting, tell me more.
>>37077482
I'm not responsible for the strawmen you create senpai.
>>37077433
You're not pulling as high as you can on every lift 0/10
>>37077433
Are you taunting us with your nearly perfect form?
>>37077524
no you fucking retard look at the responses you made
>>37074417
>Please tell me how telling someone to shorten their pull is good advice
your response
>>37074971
>This is literally basic level weightlifiting.
IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE CUTS THEY PULL SHORT RIGHT OFF THE BAT
lmaooo
>>37077580
Except I didn't imply any of that. I linked a timestamped video that elaborates on my point.
Nice strawman though.
>>37077524
if tonnes of people make the same stawman from your argument you didnt articulate it well.
to me it seems more like you make stupid points, act arrogant and full of yourself then backpeddle and act like a 5 year old though
if you fail to get your idea across to someone who is trying to listen it's your fault for explaining badly
>>37077609
>TFW I will never shitpost this hard
>Derailed no less than 4 staple threads in one day
>Why live?
>>37077642
Pas right once more
Trappy cant articulate responses to criticisms either hence why she can only give out (you)s and say strawman over and over
>>37077642
Is it really tons of people, though?
Cause it really seems like one or two to me. Specially considering they are people who actively try to argue with me on anything, as you can see >>37077482 "happened last time"
>if you fail to get your idea across to someone who is trying to listen it's your fault for explaining badly
Or the other person simply does not want to listen, or take your actual points in consideration, and just wants to argue and insult you.
Sounds familiar...
>to me it seems more like you make stupid points, act arrogant and full of yourself then backpeddle and act like a 5 year old though
You're free to think whatever you want of me. I don't care either way.
Also, you can't call it "backpeddle" when the argument you're using is a strawman. That's not how it works. I can't "backpeddle" away from an argument I never made.
>>37077642
A big example of this are the megathread screenshots
People have made points in those threads that trappy tried to argue. Even if trappy conceded the point, he just took a screenshot of his OP and continued to treat 'his own' word as gospel
trappy reminds me a lot of harsh sometimes, 2.0
>>37077718
Lots of people disagree with lots of things you say, that's a fact.
Regardless of this argument, you aren't an authority on weightlifting, you arent a weightlifting coach, and you only post klokov videos to back up your limited knowledge.
Nothing wrong with that, but just humble yourself and admit you don't know everything about this sport and would do well to listen and take things on board rather than stubbornly forcing your (limited) knowledge
>>37077765
nice straw man, i never said i know everything
i just said i know everything but you dont understand
>>37077735
>A big example of this are the megathread screenshots
Got any proof? Of course not.
All points that I've conceded were edited in the screenshots to reflect that, or redacted in the updated thread. See: Lats and spinal stability (which is still correct, I simply overstated it at first) - and sumo and adductors.
See pic related.
Or are you mad that I didn't concede to some dumb point you might have made in one of those threads? Because there were plenty of dumb points made back then.
>>37077765
Here's your (you)
>>37077718
your posts frequently lead to arguments like this
If you think everybody else is the problem, then you might be the problem
