What do you think of dumbell side bends for abs, /fit/? I vaguely remember Mike Chang saying they make you fridge mode, but he's just a shit, right? And, yes, I know that I need lower bodyfat for abs to show.
>>36978326
They're for obliques, not for abs.
>>36978326
George leeman also said something similar in a supertraining06 video and says their pretty good deadlift assistance work too
>>36978326
>mfw i see DYELs at the gym doing stupid isolation exercises like this shit
>>36978326
if you have wide hips do them
>>36978709
this
I'm guessing they work really well. I'm not personally shredded, but the most cut dude in my gym does them all the time. If they didn't I doubt he would waste his time with them.
Do suitcase deadlifts instead
>>36978350
>mfw i see dyel's workouts consist of 3 meme exercises
>>36978709
>>36978731
why that friendorino?
>>36978341
>external abdominal oblique
>not abs
>>36979400
fridgemode is better than hourglass mode
>>36979400
Do you want to look like this?
>>36979765
ya know if that guy's hair wasn't so "insurance broker" he'd probably be pretty good looking
>>36979765
How do you completely neglect your lats that hard? Literally no pullups or rows ever.
>>36978326
I find them useless. Therea no weight heavy enough that isnt a barbell
>Implying I don't do them to essentially do a full-body flex in front of everyone
>>36979781
Speak for yourself, my gym has 180lb dumb bells.
>>36979800
Still useless
Might as well do deadlifts at that point
>>36979813
What kind of shit-tier form do you use doing these things
>>36979829
Its not about form
There just isnt any real benefit that cant be derived from deads
>>36979849
Aside from the oblique strengthening, which deadlifts are kind of terrible at.
>>36979866
Nope
>>36979898
So how exactly is a movement that doesn't involve any motion the obliques are responsible for a good method of strengthening the obliques?
>>36979929
They are a subpar exercise. To work the obliques you want rotational movements, not lateral ones. Like windshield wipers
>>36979765
I always wondered what his back looks like.
>>36979979
Like this, his name is Josh Leader and he looks amazing from every other angle.
I've read that they're basically a bad idea for your average gym goer, since most people have no idea what "neutral spine" means, and they're a great way to slip a disc once you move up in weight.
>>36980466
That angle makes pretty much everyone look bad.
>>36980497
Ive heard the same even if youre experienced since you'll naturally go for heavier weight. My sides are sore af I like them but I dont think its natural. Deadlifts it is.
>>36978326
I do them pretty often and yes, it turned me into the fridge mode
Yeah I do them but I maxed out the dumbbells. Should I advance to cable side bends or what? Tried doing it with a barbell but that didn't work well
>>36980514
If you have to have a deadlift replacement for these, use suitcase deadlifts. Regular ones aren't really involving a lot of oblique use - you need unilateral loading for that generally.
>>36979765
i do pullups mon-thurf truckboii
>>36980553
>suitcase deadlifts
WHat in the fuck am I watching cant I just use the hex bar and call it a day?
