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Steroids and osteoporosis, a match made in heaven.

Previous >>36971498
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Can I run accutane and DNP at the same time
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>>36978011
All I want for my birthday is a big booty hoe.
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bernie sanders
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>>36978038
Cuck
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Man when is this tren A leaving my body?

2 weeks since last pin but I still get these fucked up dreams.

No joke, my dream last night:

>sister invites guy she met online over for dinner
>the guy is bodybuilt talking alpha with a balding head
>he talks about his adventures and travelling
>the guy is fucking JM

>Dreaming that JM is over at your place talking about the nature in Middle Amerika


Fuck this man, I'm never using tren again
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Critique my first cycle please.

Weeks 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/day
Weeks 1-16 Test E 250mg E3D
Weeks 14-16 Sdro 10mg/ED, 20mg/ED
Weeks 16-18 Nothing Nothing
Weeks 18-22 Nolvadex 40mg/40/20/20
Weeks 1-18 Aromasin 12.5mgED

Eating a shit ton, bulking as much as possible. Will cut down on TDEE if too much fat gaining.
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>manlet faggots
>roid osteoporosis
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>>36977787
Duh

I ain't losing weight till I move out and stop being surrounded by shit food
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>>36978011
>Friday night
>830pm
>look over at phone
>still no missed text
h-heh, they'll be messaging me any second now, right guys? Its still early...
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>>36978113
>dbol
>sdrol
>dbol and sdrol
>first cycle

Good luck with that.
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>>36978127
just give me your sisters hand in marriage
I'll gladly take her off your hands

And I'll only charge you a couple thousand for it too!
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Alright /fit/ Ive head a lot about beginner test only cycles of about 500mg. I'm still a beginner and young enough that I don't wanna fuck around with my endocrine system, but it sounds like there aren't that many drawbacks to a simple test cycle. Can you cycle the same amount of test a few cycles, or are there diminishing returns? In addition, granted you do PCT correctly, what are the risks for a 21+ year old?
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I'm new to testosterone cycles and have a 250mg vial of cypionate, how often should I inject? I just shot up about 1-4th to 1/5th of the vial into my ass. How many ml is recommended and how often?
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>>36978194
All cycles suppress your gonads. Your body has a feedback mechanism that interprets exogenous hormones as excess endogenous production, so it curtains production to zero. That's why we do a pct.
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>>36978246
>That's why we do a pct.
More like that's why we cruise. Amirite?
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>>36978246
After the PCT can you keep the majority of the muscle gained on a mass gaining cycle, given that you don't cut wayyy down on bf or do another cycle? A simple test cycle every now and then sounds golden with proper PCT and recovery.
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>>36978267
Yeah but not for our first time.
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>>36978070

you didnt happen to be running tren E before the tren A did you?

it took 2.5-ish weeks since last pin of tren A for it to leave my body last time but i was using tren A to top off a tren E blast.
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>>36978226
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>>36978285
After your cycle your test levels will be lower than normal for a few weeks and you will lose muscle during that time. Afterwards, you should easily keep everything if you're below your bodies maximum natural limit. If you use a cycle to go beyond your natty limit you'll lose it gradually. How fast is really not a question I know enough about to answer.
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>>36978127
>tfw

>>36978181
post sister
is she better than yolo's sister?
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>>36978011
Melb brahs

Hook me up
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>>36978226
1/8th of a vial, 3 times a day. Except for sundays. Sundays you do 1/4th.
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>>36978011
So how do I into roids?
What should I expect to pay for quality shit that won't kill me?
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Can I use a 7mg nicotine patch as an Aromatase Inhibitor to get my Estradiol in the 400's ng/dl back down to normal range?


This is a serious question, I am currently unable to get AI because Don't know any trust-able sources in the UK and need something ASAP.
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>>36978391
order from indian pharmacy you fucking mong
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>>36978181
k but i'll need you to loan me a couple thousand first

>>36978358
he hasn't seen her and he never will, goddamnit
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>>36978381
30-40 a vial of test is decent. Stick to test only for your first cycle, if you decide to take the plunge. A couple vials should suffice (8-12 weeks). AI's and PCT tend to be a larger part of the total cost - especially if you buy pharma grade, which you should. You don't want to get bitch tits from bunk bathtub drugs. My roommate fondles my B-cups when they're lactating. Not fun.
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>>36978391
Enjoy your moobies.
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fuck this place i dont care what any of you faggots thing

i finally have BOSS life and with the girl of my dreams
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>>36978425
Jesus christ I'm sorry..
Thanks for quality advice brother
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>>36978415

>Implying I want them to set their poo filled pills to me

Indian pharmacies are trustable? Anyone mind writing a trustable one?

>>36978438

What did he mean by this?
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>>36978451
She's fuckin sexy dude good catch
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>>36978438

Jokes on you, I had gynecomastia since I was 13.
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>>36978474
Yes, they're fine

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=indian+pharmacy
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>>36978113
>Weeks 1-18 Aromasin 12.5mgED
>ED
no

>sdrol
no

>dbol
maybe. probably should keep your first cycle to only one compound but it's whatever, no real harm to it
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>>36978164
If I push my mind hard enough anything is possible?
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>>36978474
I meant enjoy your man boobs.

>>36978493
Sure you're right, buddy. Sure you're right.
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>>36978507
no you're fucked

Same fucking shit with noobs and creating their own faggot routines

Just follow the god damn sticky and stop inventing your own shit.

1-12-16 test e
2 weeks off
4 weeks 40/40/20/20
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>>36978113
Eh... that's a lot of shit. Stick with test, and maybe, MAYBE a really mild oral like tbol if you absolutely feel you must ignore all advice to the contrary.

AI eod or less. Depends on how much you aromatize.

I'd consider tapering/kickstarting with test prop if you can stomach the pip and eod injections.
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>>36978497
>sdrol
But I wanna so badry
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>>36978520

Damn, those are some massive man boobs. Mine are nothing compared to him.
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>>36978573
Don't give up. Some day you may.
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>>36978416
FREE WIFE?!
you just made the biggest mistake of your life bud
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>>36978580

I am gonna make it brahs, we are all gonna make it.
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>>36978601
she's leaving in 2 months. better hurry
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>>36978544
link to sticky pls
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>>36978660
if i marry her the greencard wont expire
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>>36978666
First page. Above the running dinosaur. Tard.
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>>36978677
no she's legal. she's just leaving the state.

you know where i am. get her here or lose her forever, nerd
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>>36978666
https://nopaste.me/view/854e23b8
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/

>>36978687
retard
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>>36978719
Thanks for enabling the tards, tard.
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>>36978226
Hey i have a shit ton of her stuff
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>>36978391

You're in the fucking UK where's it's more legal than anywhere. Fuck me.
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>/fraud/ is slow on a friday night

Enjoying your test confidence and drive, I hope
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>>36978819
Thanks for reminding me I'm drinking alone, fuck face.


> pls dont leave
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>>36978819
Friends from Portland are arriving shortly, but my weekend doesn't start til tomorrow night. Plan on going to my side girls on Sunday/Monday.
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>>36978819
>tfw waiting for Saturday so I can bone waitress
Fridays are overrated
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>>36978895
>tfw 3 Tinder bots

fug
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this adrol felt really good lifting on
I dunno if its adrol I guess but it was nice so I'm going to take more

>>36978819
>tfw work in7 hours
fuck fridays and saturdays desu
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Brewing vs buying ?
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>>36978996

>inb4 it's actually MDMA
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>>36978011
FAGS
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>>36979042

oops, you got me
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>>36979009
its ok mdma is still plenty anabolic
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>>36978011
sup fraud

i have done a few cycles, but always long esters. i have done one cycle with test prop and tren ace that gave me mad gains, but tren also puts my blood pressure through the roof. im talking stroke level. so i need a little help.

from now on i only want to do short 8 week cycles with short esters. im busy recovering from an 8 month b&c under the supervision of an endo, but in october i will be ready to go again. from extremely low test levels i have gone up to about 25% bf, but whilst recovering ive managed to get down to about 18% so far. i will be around 12% hopefully around october and want to do a quick cycle to get down to about 8-10% while looking full and hard. i will have the help of a sports nutritionist so just need a cycle.

i was thinking maybe test, npp and mast. or maybe test, npp, anavar. any other suggestions?
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>>36979042
Brew dude. Unless you make lots of money or are unable to brew due to living conditions.

>>36979087
Test mast and NPP sounds perfect. I'd 30-40mg Ed of all three as long as you want.
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>>36978391
get AI UK domestic

[email protected]
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>>36979271
Any advice for brewing?
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>>36979300
No, it's really easy. Just be as sterile as possible.
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>>36979345
How much does all the equipment cost, roughly? Excluding raws, of course. It's something I've seriously considered. How hard is it to fuck up? (over/underose, etc.)
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>>36979410
Pretty sure r/steroids has a home brew guide.

Speaking of which, why does their bby's first cycle Cut Edition reccomend such low doses for a cut? Why not just cruise at 300-500mg for a cut, or is it assuming that you're coming off of a blast?
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Fuck, I'm 4 weeks into my first cycle. Pinning sust 400 twice a week and I feel better than ever. I've exploded size and strength wise. I just wanted to thank you all, I wouldn't have gotten this far without your advice. Already planning out my next cycle. I can't believe I thought I was only going to do one cycle lol.
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>>36979410
>>36979433
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/homebrew/list
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>>36979433

You don't need high doses to cut. 250mg/wk IS a cruise. 500mg is not.
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>>36979445
I definitely used cruise in the wrong context. Would you not get more bang for your buck running a cut at higher doses? Or is it just a waste of gear because you're not in a surplus?
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>>36979433
>>36979440
I know guys, I was just curious about your personal experience because shit varies. My first cycle turned out quite a bit more expensive than most people suggested it would be, for example. Wiki, okay, got it.
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So when I buy hgh how do I actually partition it up into iu doses?

pic related
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>>36979461

Not really, diet is the main manipulator. The drugs are just to hold LBM.

You can go balls to the wall with Test/Mast/Tren/Var/Clen/GHRP's while cutting too, but for most people's purposes here that's too much.
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>>36979515
Thanks bro. I'm currently looking into a cutting cycle due to having to take a hiatus from lifting due to injuries, figured it could be nothing but beneficial.
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>>36978819
Ah yeah, got to do my bi-monthly shot of 330mg Test U.

Went to the cardiologist, tentative diagnosis of periocarditis, timing makes sense with my upper respiratory infection. It's at least getting better though and they said it would likely continue fixing itself without medication. Got an ultrasound scheduled so it'll be reassuring to finally have my heart checked out fully.

>tfw no heart disease
I'll be back on 7 grams a week in no time.

On the other hand, just found out I didn't land a hotel room within walking proximity of a convention I wanted to go to soon, fucking balls, just not going to go then.

Welp, time to get dudded up and hit the bar.
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>>36978011
test
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>>36979659
Oh yeah I should get my heart murmur checked out
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>>36979692
Dew it.
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hi folks.

planning on cruise instead of pct

would be that bad if i cruise pinning once a week?

i know optimal is E3D with test-e, but hate pinning and half-life is 7 days after all. or it's just a bad idea?
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>>36979659
>a convention I wanted to go to soon

The big video game one?
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>>36979760
TEST U
E
S
T

U
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>>36979659
>within walking distance

U B E R
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>>36979762
Nah, I used to volunteer at that one, not sure it would be that good of a time, who knows though, maybe I'll look into it. The one I was referring to was down in California.
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>>36979760
>half life is like 7 days

>>36979859
ur sis goin to oregon, wa or arizona?
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>>36979859
>manipulating electronic devices in altered states
N O P E
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>>36979958
Washington

>>36979969
But you don't have to be drunk to get an Uber taxi?
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>>36979993
r u homo?
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>>36979993
>drunk
You just don't get it, man.
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>>36980006
Altered states, as in the state of California vs the state of California during the acid wave?

>>36980005
Can we ever truly answer that?
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>>36979969

Get off the fucking drugs man. You have heart issues.
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>>36980028
Something like the last one.

>>36980032
Haven't taken any stimulants for several months now, well before any heart issues presented, and I don't plan on taking any anytime soon. I'm just joshing, christ.
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Has anyone used Naps? How are they? Alternatives? In the US btw.
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>>36980041
Lord Fatty, is that you?
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>>36980028
You could mongle my meatus to find out.
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>>36980056
This board is really going to hell
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>>36980049
You're ruining the flimsy mystery factor.
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>>36980046
I find that I either can't fall sleep at a decent time or that I'm half awake for the rest of the day.
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>>36980073
Sorry, what?
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>>36980073
Oh.... I meant Naps Gear but I see what you did there lol.
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>>36978011
question here. does a clen+t3 cycle show up in a military drug test?
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>>36979958
>>36979993
ooooh thats where i live.
what college?
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>>36980124
The one in Pullman

>>36980071
*sad trombone*
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>>36980071
What drugs CAN you do?
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>>36980134
>pullman
should have known
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>>36980173
Yeah. Tough titties, anon
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>>36980159
None really, I'm not one for hallucinogens most of the time, and weed gives me anxiety now, though I haven't tried a low THC/high CBD strain yet, might give that a shit after I get the ultrasound done for my heart. For now I just get a little tipsy on the weekend.
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>>36980209
>shit
alright, I'm out.

Beware any posts claiming I've made any progress with women, we all know that's a lost cause.

Now focusing on twinks :^)
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>keep thinking my erections aren't frequent or strong enough
>can get one if it calls for it
>think I'm overthinking and willing myself into ED
>being an over thinker sucks

Help me fit. How do I keep my mind off my dick. I think I'm thinking about ED so much I'm getting it.
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Question One:
Best source for pharma AI and PCT? I'm American.

Question Two:
Fuck I forgot but I had it typed.
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>>36980259
Don't think about it until you fail to get diamonds at least once with a chick, duder.
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>>36980385

Thanks bra. I think a chick would defo work. Tfw gf left me 6 months ago. Still depressed.
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>>36980414
28 years and counting and I'm not depressed, man.
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bros I cannot express how fucking good even a cruise dose of test (what i'm on now) is compared to being low test, JESUS CHRIST. my strength refuses to go down and only goes up even if I starve myself (got sick and wouldnt stop vomiting for a week). when I was low test I would miss one workout and lose a shitload of strength.

also I can actually LOSE FAT now without losing 5x as much muscle along with it.
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>>36980425

Good on ya mate. Thought she was my forever that's why it hurt so much. And she backstabbed
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>>36980441
:^(
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> scare off transgirl
> upset and confused that I won't get to suck her cock and cuddle
> drink 6 L of wine the past few days
> find a cis-girl that's overly interested
> tell her off the bat that I'm a crazy dick-sucking narcoleptic that drives a road-warrior-esque abomination
> girl is acting like we're already in a relationship

It's been an odd week.

>>36978391

Hmm. Could inject Zinc.

>>36980259

Cialis.

>>36980435

Face gets aesthetic overtime too
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Talked to a friend at the gym today about roids. He said he could get me whatever I wanted. Is this a good route to go or should I find a source online?

Hope this isn't considered source talk since I'm not looking for one just curious if anyone has dealt with going through people at the gym before

Ps I'm natty right now if that's not obvious
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>>36980473
only if you're okay with other people knowing and paying twice as much
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>>36980473
Depends if the pricing is competitive
I get my gear from a guy at the guy and he is the same price as online so why not support my mate
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>>36980473

Internet is cheaper mate. Plus idk, this guy probably gets it online or makes it in his FCKING ugl bathtub
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>>36978364
Fuck off fag
I'm Aussie too, being Aussie doesn't mean you get fucking spoon fed
Lurk for a day like everybody else you useless cunt
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>>36980509
Why would I care about him knowing when he's on too?

He said 50$ for a vial of test
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>>36979005
How is that even a question idiot?
$3/vial vs $30/vial
Sure, go with the option that's 10x the price, better value for money for sure
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>>3698059

You're getting rekt. SST on LE Reddit mate
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>>36979491
IU are the measurements on the insulin syringe
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>>36978364

Ya think ur zyzz cunt?
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600 test 700 tren cuz yolo. Only side i get is i dont want to talk to anyone anymore and im crazy obsessed with my gf. Wheres my crazy tren confidence :(
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>>36980644

Holy fuck too much Tren batman..
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>>36980671
No sides at all and crazy gains week 3. Meh.
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>>36980644
I ran 350 test 800 tren before, it made me just so fucking angry and shit that I couldn't care less about talking to other people.
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>>36979762
E3
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What kinda cost for a cycle to primarily increase strength?
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where do australians get their PCT and AI stuff? trivially easy to find test at the gym or on the darknet but terrified of entering titmode
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if you read this thread you would know the answer.
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Guys, anyone who used darknet recently, what's the current market to go? I used evolve and agora but they went to shit, and i'm checking east india company but doesn't have much shit
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>>36980631
Zyzz was a sydbro
Melbfags wish they were that sickkunt
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>>36980726
Compounds are the same regardless of BB or strength. Except PL won't use mast, winny or anavar.
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>>36980743
Takky on SST
Bod of asin is $72 dollaroos
She stocks all AI, PCT shit etc
2 weeks to aus, clears customs everytime
Its legal to import up to 3 months worth of personal medications
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>>36980764
Srs? How do you even find your shit if you cant find a dnm?
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>>36980764
Alphabay is the best atm
Nuckeus was great but it went down last week, no exit scam just went down randomly and stayed down
I've used original SR, SR2, sheep, evo, cloud, nucleus etc and aphabay has the best customer service and resolution I've seen
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>>36980816
Rufknsrs
Nobody here buys darknet
So much more accountability for shitty batches and bunk gear clearweb
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>>36980811
>Its legal to import up to 3 months worth of personal medications

legend, i'll check it out!
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>>36980824
i am just trying alphabay will see
>>36980834
it's for rec drugs kek
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>>36980861
I know, I'm the same guy who reccomended aphabay. Was saying nobody buys gear darknet.
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So recently I was drinking (I'm taking 60mg tbol ED) and felt this deep pain in my upper gut, where my liver is. It almost felt like the burn from weighted crunches. I had to fucking lay on the ground and sweat it out for like 10 minutes.

I know tbol is liver toxic and that I shouldn't be drinking on it, but holy shit, what was that? It really freaked me out.
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>>36980902
Mate if binge drinking is like getting punched in the liver, drinking on orals is like getting kicked repeatedly in the liver by a group of monkeys.
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Just landed a bouncing job tomorrow night, good times.
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Was lying in bed and shit myself. I'm so disgusted.
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>>36981278
You on the canary bulk program?
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>>36981278
How the hell
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Week 1-6 50 mg anadrol
Week 1-20 500 test
Currently at week 10, was thinking of switching to 250 test 350 tren a/week in week 12 and running that for 8-12 weeks. Is this fine? No sides except a little bit of acne
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>>36981278
when i was growin up my older brother accidentally shit himself when sleeping. because of this i shit myself on purpose a week later.
kids do weird things.
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>>36981292
>>36981300

Took laxatives and fiber to clear out the gut for my cut. Thought it was gas.
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>>36981330
Keep test the same and add 350 tren. Low test moderate to high tren for lean gains, high test and tren (low-moderate-high, doesn't matter) for mass. You want to go low test low tren which isnt great for anything really, its just average.
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>>36981344
Sucks bro. No worse feeling than the moment you realize you shit yourself and have to then clean it up.
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>>36981395
Alright
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>>36981398
I'm happy to say I've never experienced that feel

what's wrong with you people
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>>36981424
Every adult male will shit his pants at least once in his life. It's only a matter of time.
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>>36981424
Haven't shit myself since I was 16 and coming down from like 6 different drugs, but it's not something you forget.
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>>36981437
Never trust a fart. You might thing they're your hilarious best friend but they are treacherous bastards and will betray you.
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>>36981661
You know what they say up north, never trust a fart or an Irishman
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>>36981278
Lmfao

>>36981292
Hahaha my thoughts exactly
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>>36981424
i once passed out drunk while on antibiotics that made my stomach go wild, wasn't too smart in any way
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MCT oil is seriously the best thing since fried chicken
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>>36980861

I'll fix you up bate. Got quite a rep on abm for outing scammers and the like.

What are you in for?

Getting 50g mdma and 150 pills of 2cb at 18mg myself.
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>>36981743
Why do you buy MDMA if it doesn't work on you?
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>>36981751

It works, 4fa works better. But both don't cause a crash in me at all.

I also want to kittyflip and candyflip soon.

And 30g has already been reserved by 3 groups of "friends". As well as 50x2cb.

Means I'll have 50x200mg pills of xtc, 120 of 2cb and 20g mdma to dick around with next week.
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>>36981751

And it's speed/coke that has 0 effect on me.
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>>36981769
Lucky bastard, wish I didn't get comedowns. Ket is great just so damn expensive.
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Viagra vs Cialis?
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>>36981830
Cialis.
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>>36981830
window of a few hours guaranteed erection vs up to 72 hours of an easily achieved erection.
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So I'm going to be running my first cycle but I'm really confused about ml vs mg

If I have a vial that says 300mg / 1ml

Does this mean when I draw to hit 500mg dose I draw 1.7ml
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>>36981769

What's the diff between MDMA & xtc.

I thought they had the same feel. I've done MDMA loads and tried XTC once 9 years ago but it was bunk and isn't as common to get hold of where I'm from
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>/fraud/
>no best varfu
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>>36981672
Solid advice
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>>36981920
Yeah, 1.66ml technically but most it doesn't matter. Usually test is dosed at 250mg/ml do 500mg is the standard, but there's nothing wrong with doing 600 pw if your concentration is higher.
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>>36981931
XTC pills are supposed to contain MDMA but for the last 20 or so years its been common to fill them with cheaper easier to obtain drugs like PMMA, speed, meth and recently methylone.
People prefer MDMA because it's hard to fake the look and scent of it, and you can test kit it anyway. Plus you know exactly how much you're dosing, a supposed 220mg pill might actually only have 150mg whereas if you're measuring 220mg of crystal MDMA you can't fake that.
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>>36981931
Xtc refers to pressed MDMA pills. So it's the same as MDMA crystals/powder but cut with some other shit. If I could chose I would take the crystals over pressed pills anyday
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>>36981931
XTC pills are like UGL var, underdosed at best and a totally different compound at worst
MDMA is like pharma var raws
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>>36981936
>implying
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>>36981955
Thanks. These vials are 10ml each saying 300mg per 1ml
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>>36978194
Yes this. I'm also 21 and half and I want to do a simple cycle to get out of dyel and into thick fast...

If I blast test for a few weeks to get large and then do PCT and keep training and eating well what does that do to my test health and will I keep being thick?
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>>36982407
>implying you'll see any physique changes in a few weeks
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>>36982460
12 weeks
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>>36982479
Sure you can make some decent gains and keep the majority after PCT with the right diet and training, masT is proof of that. Impossible to know how your test will be. Most peoples goes back to normal or slightly under but you might get fucked over and turn into an old man, nobody can say.
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>>36982577
There's zero studies, everything is anecdotal. The risk isn't significant but it exists. The majority of people who come off and get tested will have very similar levels to before, just don't go into this without accepting the possibility that it could fuck you for life.
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if i take test for a while and then stop will my test levels drop to where they were before or get lower?
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>>36982522
>you might get fucked over and turn into an old man
explain
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>>36981278
>>36981292
>>36981692
Oooooooh yeaaaaaah, welcome to the club Alb

They ain't no true fighters for the cause if they haven't shit themselves at least once
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My kid wants to do Test and he just turned 17. I wanted to beat the shit out of him but I figure he's gotten to the point where if he fucks up, its his own fault. How badly could a normal test cycle fuck him up?
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>>36982694
If you raise your child to fuck himself up like that at that age, then you've failed as a father
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>>36982694
Trt for life
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>>36982672
You might be a genetic failure who faces a permanent reduction in natural testosterone production.
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>>36982694
I hopped on at 16, been on for two years. Came off for a few months over Christmas and my natural levels were at 786 ng/DL.
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>>36982763
fuck, is that common? i've been wanting to hop on test for a while because i've reached my natty limit and wanna leave humanity behind and i've done a lot of research that mostly says your test gets back to either normal levels or slightly below that and gradually comes back up to what it was before you started roiding
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Guys got my LGD. Took my first 5ml this morning. What else can I add to cut ? Thought about DNP but it's hard to find source that ships in Korea.
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>>36982813
haha gook
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>>36982791
No it's not common, neither is getting attacked by a shark but that still happens all the time.
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>>36982815
Retard
>>36982813
Goals?
Clen or Albuterol for cutting
Test and tren or deca for bulking
I think you failed to realize LGD is an add-on compound, not the staple in your cycle
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What's the absolute max body fat% I should shoot for before I run a Test E cycle? I'm reading shit saying 8-10% but that seems pretty extreme.
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>>36982815
I wish. Sadly I am not Asian.

>>36982848
My goal is to cut. I have been on a 1000 cal deficit for two months and lost around 20 pounds. Added LGD today to get last 15 pounds off. Do I really need to add something like a cruise Test dose ?
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>>36982887
Test won't help cut weight, all it does in cuts is maintain lean mass.
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>>36982887
If you're cutting its probably fine. Your natural production will be suppressed though so if you wanted to bulk you should add test.
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>>36982897
i'm saving this picture m8
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>>36981936
>>36982018
gross
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>>36982951
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>>36982961
this bitch has more muscle than me but I'll show whore soon.
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>>36982951
>>36982964
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>>36982951
>>36982964
>>36982969
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>>36982951
>>36982964
>>36982969
>>36982977
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>>36980797
>PL won't use anavar
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Guys, is it normal that 125mg of Testosterone E a week puts me on 390ng/dL estradiol? Total test is 1170ng/dL.


Should I take the Letrozole I have? How much?
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>>36983043
>125mg of Testosterone E a week
what the fuck
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>>36983053

Yes, 125mg of Test E. I am trying to self medicate to find out if my natural 380ng/dl of total test was the cause of some issues I have. Doc won't prescribe at those levels.
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>>36983043
>is it normal that 125mg of Testosterone E a week puts me on 390ng/dL estradiol

"no"
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>>36982990
Over dbol, drol, halo, sdrol, mtren? I can't see why they would. Then again I don't keep uobto date on what fat swollen red men put in their bodies.
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>>36983094

>''No''

What did he mean by this?
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>>36983102
Its not normal, you aromatize like a woman. Start off with 1/4 of a letro (.625mg) every 3 days
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>>36983115

>Its not normal, you aromatize like a woman

That explains the wide hips, the femme bodyfat distribution and the ginecomastia.

>Start off with 1/4 of a letro (.625mg) every 3 days

Thanks
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>>36982964
And she's more shredded than you
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>>36983178

Looks like Ripley from Alien.
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>>36983178
Julia isn't shredded senpai
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>>36983178
>them thick panties because the clit is more masculine than most penises
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First cycle;

Pinning 250mg Test E E3D

Going to be getting blood work done week 4, what should I look out for in blood work? What are some bad signs that I would need to act upon?

Thoughts on HCG also? & Best PCT?

Cheers in advance cunts
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>>36983234

estrogen, HDL, LDL, test of course, RBC. There'll be indicators that show whats also out of range and provide the normal range next to it so you can compare.

also you don't need HCG, just nolva and/or clomid.
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>>36983230
>masculine clit
>feminine penises
I want to punch you
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>>36983265
Hate crime.
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>>36983265
A guy that looks like a femae is straight
A girl that looks like a guy is gay
Its simple logic
Its not the gentitals, its the softness/harshness of the features
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>>36983255
My main worry is keeping my estrogen under control to be honest. I'm going to get some aromasin for my AI, whats the best method at keeping it under control mid cycle?
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>>36980764
Second for alphabay
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>>36983234
>E3D

>>36983255
>RBC

What do these mean?

Also, how do you people tell your doctor you're using steroids?

Also, why does nobody use stuff like bicalutamide here so your prostate wont' get fucked up?
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>>36983100
Anavar is gold for PLers along with Adrol.
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>>36983265
Coach what are your thoughts on an HCG blast during pct? Especially for someone who has been cruising for 2+ years.
>>36983356
>E3D
Every three days
>RBC
Red blood count
You need to do a lot more studying before you start playing with this stuff anon.
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>>36983330

you should've gotten AI when you were making your purchase for gear, that's not something you want to buy later on.

go to ADC and get some pharma AI, and then take 12.5mg maybe E3D. You'll start to see how your body aromatizes since everyone is different. My roommate gets gyno easily whereas I only need 12.5mg once every 2 weeks on 600mg test/week.

It's safe to start with 12.5mg E3D then if you feel the sides of having crashed estrogen you can extend it to maybe every 5-7 days or more. You'll see, it's not hard to judge. Definitely start taking AI by week 3, and sooner if you're kickstarting dbol
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>>36978011

What are your guys thoughts on rocking HCG during cycle to help with recovery?
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>>36983386

not necessary.

i only see a purpose in HCG for coming off a cruise really. but das just me (^_-)
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>>36983356
Every 3 days and red blood count
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>>36983382
Wouldn't hurt
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>>36983382
>You need to do a lot more studying before you start playing with this stuff anon.

I know senpai, but I don't know where to do my research. I cant keep asking questions on /fraud/
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>>36983383
Nice one, yeah don't worry I haven't started yet. Going to get everything sorted before hand for sure.

To be honest I wasn't going to add dbol because of the possible added issues. However I obviously want to get the most out of the cycle so may add some dbol ED weeks 1-6.

Any other advice before starting? Anything is appreciated.
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>>36983446

i'd suggest kickstarting dbol, once the test is kicked in (usually by week 4) you can use it as a pre workout rather than running it ED.
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>>36983415
Alright well I've got 20,000 iu's. I was thinking 4000/week for 2 weeks and then 2000/week for two weeks then 1000/week until its gone. Does this sound retarded?
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>>36983446
Use anadrol instead, non aromatizing and you don't look like shit on it.
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>>36983481

Research shows that anything above 1000 iu / week wont make a difference

Thomas Maws has experience with HCG look him up

More isn't always better
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>>36983546
>Research shows that anything above 1000 iu / week wont make a difference
I have never used HCG, I was just basing my numbers on what piano man talked about in one of his videos. But if I only need 1000 then great, I can keep my second vial unopened.
>Thomas Maws has experience with HCG look him up
This guy? https://www.youtube.com/user/TMCycles
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>>36983282
>A guy that looks like a femae is straight
No, because he is a guy
>A girl that looks like a guy is gay
Yes, because she looks like a guy

Get your faggism straight, buddy.
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>>36983575
Im like semi homo but I feel like I can judge pretty objectively, nothing less homosexual than smashing qt trannie butt
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>>36983561

Yeah. All his info is quality. Done three of his cycles and made serious gains with almost zero sides.
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>>36983662
smashing a tranny is 100% faggot
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How shall i cycle stackers? (50mg ephedrin / 50mg dmaa / 100mg coffeine)
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>>36983686
Word, thanks anon
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>>36983688
Nah, guys don't have tits.
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>>36983727
>guys don't have tits
trannies are guys and they do have tits

Proven wrong, faggot.
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>>36983738
>a rectangle is a square
>no squares have eaual sides
>this rectangle has equal sides so its a square prove me wrong faggot
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>it's a "/fraud/ argues about trannies" episode
Come on, guys, can we just give it a rest?
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>>36983759
>simplifying gendersthis much
You are grasping pretty hard, I'm surprised you didn't use a food comparison honestly

And for the record not all sides of a rectangle are equal you are fucking retarded. Keep trying faggotron.
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>>36983771
Not until I watch every one of these homophobic faggots choke down tranny cum
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>>36983771
>can we just give it a rest?
Not until they stop pretending they are not flaming faggots.
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>>36983807
Nobody is denying we're faggots, just that fucking a girl with a dick isn't gay.
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>>36983836
>Nobody is denying we're faggots
>proceeds to deny it by saying that fucking trannies isn't gay
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>>36983844
M8 its the man dicks I touch that makes me kinda gay not the girl dicks.
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All this shit about trannies cmon fraud talk about rons not faggotry
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>>36983883
time to return balance with some b8
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>>36983883
There's only so much you can talk about that's gear related.
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>>36983877
>its the man dicks I touch that makes me kinda gay
>"kinda gay"
>man dicks
>trannies are men

>not the girl dicks
>girl
>dicks

You couldn't be more of a faggot in denial even if you tried to.
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im 27. Lifting for 3 years.

1 RM
Bench : 105 kg
Deadlift 210 kg
Squat 125 kg (had a knee issue getting back to 140)
OHP 74 kg

Weight is 117kg height is 195 cm and around 24% bodyfat

My plan is to slow cut until december. After that im boarding the roid train. Only test E.

Question: Should i go for a 4 week cycle and take a month of work to fully train (maybe 2 times day). Or go for a longer cycle and just continue to work?
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>>36983946
why slow cut if youre gonna roid after? just lose weight as fast as possible then get on the juice as fast as possible
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>>36983943
I say kinda because I don't exclusively fuck dudes. I think the chicks balance it out so I'm like 60% faggot.
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>>36983962
>I'm not 100% faggot because when I suck dick I only suck a part part of it, not the entire shaft
>I'm not 100% faggot because when I get fucked in the ass I don't take the entire dick up my ass, only one part of it
>I'm not 100% faggot because I don't drink all the cum, part of it spills off my mouth

D E N I A L
E
N
I
A
L
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>>36983954
Im a Pilot for a low cost carrier. Hence sleep quality and nutrition is greatly deprived during the summer season. I believe I can benefit more from my cycle during the winter
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>>36983946
>Or go for a longer cycle and just continue to work
Obvious answer

But you're clueless about how roids work at all. Read up first before touching them.
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>>36983996
Gay means exclusively fuck dudes. I think you're confused anon. Maybe you're jealous because I get equal or more pussy than you, plus twink ass too. Its ok anon I'm sure if you lower your standards and fuck 3/10s you could come close to how much I get laid.
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>>36983738
>>36983759
>>36983771
>>36983789
>>36983795
>>36983807
>>36983836
>>36983844
>>36983877
>>36983883
thank you, based wordfilter
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>>36983946
>test e
>4 weeks
k
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>>36984040
Btw, does anyone know where to find decent roidposting without getting swarmed by mentally ill persons?
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>>36983946
>deadlift twice the amount of bench
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>>36982855

Are you a femanon? Or why does that seem extreme to you? Do you chase chubby-chasers?
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>>36984040
What is wordfilter?
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>>36984031
Thats why Im asking the experts on this board. I have read some recommendations on doing a 4 week cycle only test e. What is your opinion on training 2x a day on roids?
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>>36984040
No mentally ill people here, only people who like mentally ill people.
The rest of fit is worse, trappychan everywhere.
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>>36984074
>Settings
>Filters & post hiding
>Filter & highlight specific threads/posts
>Edit, add, save.
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>>36984059
Im basically a lanket. Started with only the bar on the bench. Plus I had a motoric problem since a young age. I had therapy for a couple years especially for the lower body. I think thats why my lower body eventually developed beyond my upper body
>>
One of these questions reminded me of something I was curious about. How do things change when people run cycles while fat (think SHW powerlifters or strongmen or something)?
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>test/Tren
>laid in bed with my eyes closed last night
>don't think I slept a minute
>now at my shitty job, fml
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>>36984140
if you don't lower your dose then you have no one but yourself to blame
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>>36984128
Aromatization is sky high
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>>36984031
>>36984042
Im sorry I got it confused with Test P which is faster acting
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>>36984165

Meh. Yeah, just gotta suck it up. Insomnia is whatevs
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>>36984204
still not nearly long enough to justify a cycle tho
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>>36984214
Ok so you what would you suggest as the bare minimum?
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>>36984214
I love the (you) in the background of this pic
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>>36984226
Enanthate. 16-20 weeks or fuck off bud
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>>36984226
>bare minimum
prolly 8 weeks

why you'd want to do it tho idk

>>36984236
I love the face and the hair lol
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>>36984206
yep. especially the memory problems, decreased cognitive function, emotional problems, and increased likelihood of dementia. whatever.

but if that stuff doesn't bother you then it's probably not that much of a loss.
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>>36984250
Because im not happy the way I look, not happy with my strength. Im 27 now and I feel its gonna be downslope from this point. And my fucking job is hindering me in getting gains faster.
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>>36984037
>Gay means exclusively fuck dudes
No it doesn't.
So, if I only fuck or get fucked by guys but one day I insert my peepee in a vagina, that means I'm not gay? I'll keep that in mind I guess.
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>>36984275
then why do the bare minimum?
do a propper cycle or bnc
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>>36978011

Any of you cunts able to keep stretching while on cycle. I'm a gymnast and need to get my splits back but while I'm on cycle get stupid pumps.
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>>36984268

Lol holy shit Debbie relax
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>>36984278
I'll rephrase. If your sexual preference is such that you regularly fuck and enjoy fucking both men and women you are not exclusively gay.
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>>36984311
Cheerbro and nattytest are both gymnasts and both benefited greatly from gear.
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>>36983901
Got any more of this girl?
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>>36984275
>27
just blast and cruise old man
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>>36984300
Because I want to take it slow. Im afraid i might get tested if I blow up and get big fast. But since im getting a lot of critque on a short cycle I might have to evaluate my goals and the risks involved and just go for a longer cycle
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>>36984358
just hide you gains in a hoodie and pair of sweatpants and don't be obnoxious and slam weights or grunt, also be lean, you will look smaller
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>>36984358
Steroids don't come up on standard drug tests and specific tests are prohibitively expensive.
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>>36984374
>Steroids don't come up on standard drug tests
depends on where you live, where I live roids is on a standard test
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>>36984317
He does make some valid points though. Laugh it off and excuse them though, ha ha
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>>36984387
If you're talking about a standard 6-10 panel test then you're full of shit.
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>>36984311
What are you running?

>>36984358
Just cruise on 250 test, it's all you really need to get "peak natty" gains/looks.
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>>36984323
In that case you are right since you would be bisexual.
Bisexuals are pathetic conformists though so jokes on you. :^)
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>>36984345
nope, dont think so.

>>36984358
>Because I want to take it slow
liv fst di yung
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>>36984371
I already had people asking my if I take roids. I barely fit (agree im fat as well) in the uniform cause I work in Asia so everyone is DYEL.
>>36984404
Thanks I will consider it.

Thank you guys for all the info.
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>>36984401
sorry everyone doesn't live in the states
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>>36984440
>sorry everyone doesn't live in the states
Truly a shame.
I'm sure if your government asks real nicely, we could annex you.
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>>36984440
I don't live in the States either. 6-10 panels are universal in every country and its basic knowledge that they only test for recs. How about instead of trying to discredit someone trying to help this guy you tell us your country and the name of this supposed standard test that detects aas?
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>>36984542

ASADA testing will test for everything. Some companies will use it as it's funded partially from external sources.
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>tfw I have a question I really want answered but the thread is 300+
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>>36984783
ask away
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bout to start my cruise. how shitty is cruising?
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>>36984783
Never hurts to ask.
>>36984827
What are you cruising on?
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>>36984827
names too similar to mast test
change it faggot
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>>36984806
I'll try to keep it brief as I can. Is it possible to be hitting the tail-end of puberty at 22? Late Bloomer here.
>Developed normally
>didn't get armpit hair until 18
>no "facial hair" until 20
>T levels at 18-19 Low 200s
>T levels at 20 low 400s
>T levels at 22 850
Like wtf? My beard is coming in thicker, getting tons of chest/stomach hair, zits on my shoulders, getting more aggressive. Why so god damn late brehs? Were my hormones just shit?
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>>36984885
I would recommend you to wait a year and if your test levels are about 850 and you are content with your height/your growth plates have fused then go ahead
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>>36984902
what I meant with >if your test levels are about 850
is that if it hasn't gotten higher then go ahead
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>>36984916
I'm assuming they're fused as I've been 6'2 for a couple years(people swear I'm still growing kek). I've wanted to do a cycle, but I'm not going to interfere if I'm increasing natty. Thanks for the insight m80.
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>>36984942
np
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Any recommendations for arm acne? I was off cycle for 6 months and it was taking forever to go away. It's just red bumps that come and go. They scar/take forever to disappear.

I think it's cystic? It's like only on my arms.
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>>36984827
>how shitty is cruising?
Depends. You consider pinning shitty? Then it's going to be pretty shitty because you have to do that for an indefinite amount of time.
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>>36985062
Sunbath.
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>>36985062
>>36985097
Acid bath
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>>36985218
>>36985218
>>36985218

new
thread
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>>36985097

Yeah I did tanning for a bit and it seemed to just make the scars less noticeable. But the acne didn't go away

Bout to say fk it and hop on accutane
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>>36982791
>I've reached my natty limit
lmao no
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