>>36854724
Daily reminder:Roids
It's this easy.
Speaking of roids. Does anyone know a good place to buy ligandrol from?
>>36858335
>nearly 4kg weight increase per month
>only 100g protein
did he eat sweets only or something?`for that weight increase youd need 1000kcal surplus per day so he would eat about 3500kcal per day. even if you ate junk food only you'd get 100g of protein a day
is this a troll pic?
>>36858360
It's hilarious how you armchair "expert" faggots get BTFO by actual lifters.
>>36858349
While my autism insists I tell you that LGD is not a steroid, I get what you mean.
Sarms1 was reasonably priced. Shipped immediately and had no problems clearing Canadian customs. Was labelled as aromatherapy oil. Tasted like shit. Gained no weight while on it but dropped 2 inches off my waist. Added 35 lbs to my bench. All my joints felt amazing.
Was suppressed as shit for the last week and a week or two after at 15 mg a day for 4 weeks.
>>36858444
I know it's not a roid, I just figure I ask here instead of making a thread. I heard some good shit about it. Thought I'd try it out. And hmmm, I've heard to cycle about 5-10mg for about 6 weeks. Guess it depends on the dosage for how long you take it. Did you take d-aspartic acid after for a bit of recovery?
>>36858360
>for that weight increase youd need 1000kcal surplus per day
You do realize that a kg of muscle contains less energy than a kg of fat? A kg of fat is 7700 calories, a kg of muscle is less than half of that. Can't remember the exact number. So you would only need a slight surplus.
>>36858360
>`for that weight increase youd need 1000kcal surplus per day
lol no. you're confusing fat gains in body weight. fat stores a ton of energy per lbs (3500kcals) which is kind of the point of body fat, but you can't use this number for LBM gains
>>36858476
I started at 2.5 mg a day and ramped up to 10 mg a day for 2 weeks. Finished at 15 mg a day for the last two weeks. Total cycle of roughly 5 weeks.
I planned on bulking on it but ended up getting sick for 2 weeks at the start, tore an intercostal once I got better doing stupidly heavy pullovers overs, and then got all sad as I started getting suppressed. Had I hit my macros and calorie goals I have no doubts I could have added 10 lbs of lean muscle.
The strength gains are pretty sweet tho. I deadlifted twice the entire time and added 80 lbs to it. Bench went up like crazy. Overhead press was stalled for a month before hand and I managed to add 15 lbs after training it for a week.
I'd run it with test or just do a roid cycle if I had to do it again. Losing my sex drive was miserable. Gf started wondering if it was her no matter how much I reassured her. Lost a lot of motivation at the gym. Lost a lot of confidence that cost me some clients a couple of deals. Factor in that monetary loss and a cycle of test e with dbol and a full pct would have been 100 times cheaper.
Still worth it tho
>>36858531
Kg of fat is ~9000 cals.
Less blood vessels and cell walls and mitochondria.
Ok maybe 7700
Is there any real reason not to do your research and just do a cycle? I mean, really.
>>36858612
- Forever lowered testosterone post-cycle
- If you're going to go bald you speed the process up (hair > muscle if you want fanny)
- You'll look like shit when you come off
- Gyno (there's a reason bodybuilders get there glands removed even with their steroid knowledge)
>>36858531
You do realize that MAKING muscles requires much more energy than the muscles themselves hold, right? This is why people shouldn't pretend like they know something because they half remembered their high school bio class they slept through.
>>36858697
>citation needed.
>true
>citation needed. PCT = keep most of the gains
>who gets their glands removed? Aromatise inhibitors exist for a reason. Use them and avoid gyno.
1/4 try harder
>>36858592
So the last few weeks of suppression kinda kills it. Well, that's to be expected. Thanks for the info bro.
>>36858335
Ok, and when he stops cycling?
>>36858697
>You'll look like shit when you come off
>come off
lol no
>>36859002
Back to pic 1
>>36859002
His muscles will rupture and explode violently, killing him and everybody near him.
>>36858335
off the natty limits!
>>36858335
daily reminder roids is something you're going to have to do your whole life if you want to maintain that appearance. Anyone who's actually done roids will tell you that it's not something to be taken lightly yet the anonymity of this shithole website makes it easy for dyel fags to go around telling people to make irreversible life altering decision because some bullshit about burning twice as bright half as long or some bullshit.
I posted earlier in the thread about ligandrol. I was reading about YK-11. How is that compared to ligandrol. Also, I've read some places that you don't need a PCT, it doesn't cause gyno, but others say you can get shut down from it.
Is this picture legit?
16 weeks even with roids sounds ridiculous. And them doses are low.
125mg test is like TRT
>>36858335
daily remember, you're fucking ignorant
and you should not even consider to post anymore
if you really think it's all about roids, then you should end your life asap
if it's all about roids, why do i look bigger than him without roids on this pic?
>>36860214
because you're on roids ?
>>36860214
How long had you been training here?
Your arms look like they are 18" and your like sub 8%, how nigga
>>36860241
yeah i'am currently
what are you trying to say?
soon i will post new pics again
in the mean while you can still fap to my older pics
>>36860242
how? genetics of course
it's all about genetics
if you have shit genetics, you shoudn't even live.
you think you can look like me? even while taking tons of gear? think again, and try not cry yourself to sleep at night when you find out about the real truth
>>36860174
You're forgetting the Tren added in and 16weeks is a pretty long cycle.
>>36860297
You look the same in both pics.
>>36860314
you looked the same your whole life
if you had 1/1000 of my genetic make up, you might had a chance
but now you will stay dyel and cry of hate and jellyness when you're watching my god-tier pictures
>>36860358
you're more insecure than supermong ever was
>>36858335
i still would rather hair and natty than bald and roids
>>36860297
what were you even getting at with that first post then?
>if you think its all about roids fuck you im bigger than him
>and im also on roids
>>36860381
umad tho
>>36860381
i can't imagine how shitty my life would be, if i had to watch pics of other man while knowing in the back of my head that i will never look like that, because of my shit-tier genetics
luckily i will never deal with that problem
the only thing you do, is pointing who roided or not, to make you dyel lives more bearable
>but muh secuirty
lmao
>>36860414
you probably weren't so good in reading comprehension at school
let me rephrase it for you, so your dyel brain will understand it
g.e.n.e.t.i.c.s
nothing else matters
my whole life i only get hated by genetic inferior beta males, like you. At first i had a hard time to understand why, till i saw some pictures of you. lmao
MUH ZAC EFRON PICS
muhh zyzzzz, he was my hero
really pathetic and sad
lmao
>>36860445
yup god-tier roids got it
>>36860214
>>36860297
>>36860358
>>36860512
daddy tier
breed me dude!
>>36860512
lol, I'm 100% natty and shit on your unaesthetic body. No decent girl likes muscle like that.
>>36860445
you have good genetics for building mass but your insertions are fucking shit-tier lol. Not even saying that to bring you down a peg, there's just something really unaesthetic about your muscle shapes and ratios. 90% of people on gear with less mass than you look better than you lel.
>>36860587
LOL masT >>36860512 knocked the fuck out
>>36860572
>implying i would ever breed with inferior genetics
>>36860587
HAHAHAH, no shit you're natty. At least people doubt my natty pics, but i don't understand why you should post you were natty there? It's quite obvious, to say the least lmaooo
oh man, and he lifts for girls. lmao, i can't help you anymore man. just..
i'am done
next please
>>36860606
so, you should post a picture of yourself then, to show how god-tier your insertions are?
IMPLYING ANY OF YOU DYELS, can look like this nattyy,
not even with roids you can look like me natty
>butt muh insertions
get a grip
>>36860358
your line is pathetic
>>36860587
omg masT just log off
>>36860647
So is this natty or on gear here?
>>36860445
> it's all about the genetics
> except when it's about the roids
kek, I think the roidrage has you confused, there's definitely no coherent argument to be found in here anywhere.
>>36860214
>>36860587
Seen both of these pics on here 10+ times
>weak b8 faggots
>>36860647
lol you autistic fuck. Self impovement is one reason and pussy is another. I don't need a single reason to lift.
>oh man, and he lifts for girls. lmao, i can't help you anymore man. just..
>i'am done
>next please
lol dude, you have nothing on my aesthetics.
>>36860692
>>36860643
nice samefagg
you should first think of something that could possibly hurt me, before posting again
>>36860694
can you read?
or are you illiterate?
>>36858335
daily reminder: I have not used any garbage for over a year and a half now, and I am still not using any garbage. As a matter of fact, I am thinking of removing proteine shakes from my diet, since what I read on the packaging seems to be quite unhealthy.
>>36860707
Mirin
wat r ur stats dude?
If there weren't any needles I'd do it.
>>36860647
mastest is the kanye west of /fit/
>>36860711
You really dont look any bigger on gear, if anything you looked leaner in the other picture.
Your arms are the same size.
>>36860711
lol nope, try harder you roid raging monkey.
>>36860704
it's all about genetics you ignorant dyel
you can use all the steroids in the world, but you will not even look like me when i was natty.
so why even bother to roid, if you still look like me natty?
>>36860707
>>36860707
>I don't need a single reason to lift.
>but i only lift for girls
the contradictions are of the CHARTTT
lmaoo, i'am feeling the pain
you're so called aesthetics are just comical to me and the only one that would mire you is your mom(but she's just saying that to make you feel better)
oh shit, i told the truth, like that other thingy about santa not being real.
no reason to live anymore, what a bummer
>>36860743
no i went from god-tier to a tier that's not even definable yet
furakkk delts are too crazy
i will allow you to hate,
>>36860792
>you're so called aesthetics are just comical to me and the only one that would mire you is your mom(but she's just saying that to make you feel better)
>oh shit, i told the truth, like that other thingy about santa not being real.
So much projecting, I can tell you juice for girls.
Breh, your comedy routine is pure cringe. I lift for self-improvement, health, and bitches. In that order. I know you're upset at the fact you've lowered your natural test levels for life.
>people outside /fraud/ don't know mast is just trolling 24/7
gr8
>>36860792
anyone can look like that on roids, breh.
also
> roidraging on a vietnamese basketweaving forum
kek, should've at least done it in a supermarket or sth. so that you have a funny story to tell to the kids
>>36860876
>you've lowered your natural test levels for life.
nice meme
>>36860792
Look, man, I don't have a stake in this argument and I generally agree with your claim that genetics are important and steroids aren't magic, but saying this:
>you're so called aesthetics are just comical to me and the only one that would mire you is your mom(but she's just saying that to make you feel better)
about that body means you're off your fucking rocker, m8.
You're on the fucking dark side of the moon with your standards and expectations. Back here on Earth we consider that to be a very impressive physique.
>>36860876
wow, you're more pathethic than i already thought, thanks you for making it clear again
ITS ALL ABOUT FACE, so don't even bother to lift for girls
and even in that department i look fucking beautiful. So why was your argument still relevant again?
no, my natty levels are way above average, why do you think i look like that natty?
so ,...is there someone on my level to argue with, or do i have to deal with this dyel faggot the whole time?
>>36860888
so why don't anyone look like me even on roids?
why don't you show a picture of yourself to show us how we should look
>>36858335
That's massive gains for just 16 weeks.... I'm guessing his steroid use was probably 2-3 times more than that, also he'd need to be eating over 250g of protein a day
I was on more test and tren than that and hardly had the same results.. not even close
>>36860980
cause, you know, I don't do roids.
>>36860980
Lol stop met posten gij lelijke baviaan
>jij
>ooit natty geweest in welke foto je ooit post
>liften zogenaamd niet voor meiden
>onzeker over z'n kuiten
>shittier opleiding
Loser :)
>>36860980
It's all about height, frame, face. And I hit the lottery with all three.
>ITS ALL ABOUT FACE, so don't even bother to lift for girls and even in that department i look fucking beautiful.
lol, sure you do. Probably have a puffy roid face with nasty rich picardo skin.
>>36860980
>ITS ALL ABOUT FACE, so don't even bother to lift for girls
>
>and even in that department i look fucking beautiful. So why was your argument still relevant again?
L O L
>jij
>mooi gezicht
Ge zijt lelijker dan 't achterend van een koe. Manlet die je bent
>>36860972
>Back here on Earth we consider that to be a very impressive physique.
>very impressive physique.
>impressive physique.
Speak for yourself even when it woudn't make any difference, considering you're all dyel on this board..lmao
>>36861090
>>36861111
fake JM
>>36861094
so where's the proof?
i'am still waiting
>>36861116
>ohnee hij BTFO't me
>"fake!11!!"
dwaas :)
>tfw natty at 6'1
>was 64 kg
>I'm 85 kg after 2 years of lifting and eatin'
>look better and stronger than pic in OP
Roid heads are mentally retarded.
how tall are you masT?
>>36861128
nice try
2/10 best i could do.
i know his posting style, keep trying and learning
this the best you can do? this? you bring me a faker
come one breh
>>36861163
>can't talk dutch
Guess you're the faker here :)
>saving pictures of people from /fit/
You've gone fullhomo lol
>>36861139
post your picture senpai, blow these roidheads the fuck out
>>36861116
>posting my face on a Bangladeshi jelking enthusiasts forum
lol, already showed my aesthetic body, lets see you ugly mug.
DUDE NO ITS NOT...
UH...
H-HE DID 20 YEARS WORTH OF HARD WORK LIFTING IN THAT TIME BECAUSE HE COULD RECOVER QUICKLY
ITS PERMANENT MASS BRO, HE EARNED IT
HARD WORK BRO
>>36861019
well if he really did legit tren 350 a week for 16 wks i wont doubt the progress
i just hope he legit ate only 100g of brotein a day, thatd make everything easier
>>36860707
those fucking chicken legs LMFAO
>>36861140
Nvm, Imma put you at <5'7 based on those pics
>>36860512
nice crocs
MasT bro honestly the natty dude has 10x better insertions, and is generally a lot more aesthetic and proportional than you are. You have visible gyno if a couple of your pics sticking out through your shirt. If the other guy was on roids to be able to bulk to your size he would blow you out of the water. He even looks better than you do as a natty.
Aesthetics>>>>size
Inb4 he claims samefag
>>36861210
Already did bro >>36860707 >>36860587
Roid monkey went into full defense rage mode.
>>36858335
nobody actually believes this is one cycle do they?
Fucking nattys posting troll roids pics...lol
Most people can't make those kinds of gains in multiple cycles, let alone 1 with only fucking 100g of protein a day.
Is this just a way for you to keep pretending you have some kind of moral high ground and that people on steroids are "cheaters"?
lmao guys stop taking the bait from MasT
>>36861178
why even bother to post with his name?
your faking skills are really shitty
>>36861241
why do you think we should consider your post valuable? what do you have to proof, beside stroking your dick while look at guys with no shoulders and training traps 24/7
it's something you should think about before posting again
>muhhhh Aesthetics
this is getting me everytime
I'm a cocksucker lads
>>36861273
nice dutch faggot :)
>>36861273
Well I am most certain I'm better looking than you are, have fucked way more women, and I've made better life choices. How do I know? You're a 200 pound roider that's going out of his way to put nattys and other roiders down. If you were the least bit happy with yourself, you wouldn't bother.
>>36858924
>implying you keep your gains after a steroid cycle
if you go over your natty limit you WILL lose anything extra after you stop.
>>36858360
You gain weight on tren by drinking water. It is as easy as in ops pic.
>>36861371
[citation needed]
>>36861365
and i'am hybrid between bill gates and steve jobs(money-wise)
come one breh, are you really that delusional? or is it just a copy pasta?
i know you guys tell yourselves all kind of lies to make your shitty lives more bearable, but this is even too much for me
show me, proof me that you're better looking than me
This is trolling worthy of big bird.
mast is my new favourite shitposter.
Are you Australian by any chance?
>hahaha im genetically superior
>only takes grainy pictures of himself because of his disgusting skin that's basically 50% acne and rash due to the roid abuse
yeah wow im super mad, who doesnt wanna be big but look repulsive r-r-right guys
>>36860792
Mast thanks for dat dere carb cycle you posted the other day it's like magic. Any more tips to help me get shredded and maintain some of my size, also if I have puffy nips should I just forget about roids and kill myself?
>>36860792
FACE, HEIGHT, FRAME
The reason you only post cropped pictures of your disgusting torso
>>36861430
not anyone in this thread but im always mirin you bud. always assumed you had shit tier hair.
>>36861430
Not gonna bother posting my face. Here's a hint though.
guys. mast is trolling and the other guy is ALSO trolling
https://desustorage.org/fit/thread/36654179/#36656306
this is a thread of trolls. that's not him and that guy isn't 6'1, he's 5'7. this guy's been trolling with this pic for a while now.
https://desustorage.org/fit/search/image/AI30o5JZXaJzhhjHjuyOsA%3D%3D/
>>36861430
manleT
>>36859015
Really?
>>36861481
>>36861237
I knew it. Manlet detector strong
>>36861455
nice i could help you man
puffy nipples is just fat and can be cured if you go below 10% bf
take your ai,
>>36861475
the fact you need to go on Tinder to get mediocre pussy is a big hint indeed
>>36861464
>The reason you only post cropped pictures of your disgusting torso
can't wait to seem them vains again..
sooon SOOONN
>>36860512
FUCKING LMAO.
What world are you living in?
The "genetic inferior beta male" is YOU. YOU LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT.
You lack HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME. ANYONE with your proportions is no taller than 5'7", someone as vain as you would've posted a picture of your FACE if you DIDN'T LOOK LIKE JASON BLAHA, and ALL THE GEAR IN THE WORLD WON'T HIDE YOUR EMBARRASSINGLY SMALL WRISTS.
You know what YOU consider alpha genetics? Being an overly bloated MANLET GYMCEL.
You know what, uhh, you know, HOT GIRLS consider to be ALPHA GENETICS?
HINT: IT'S A HELL OF A LOT CLOSER TO THIS >>36860587 THAN YOU'LL EVER BE. LMFAO.
That guy has HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME. I can tell by his proportions and SKIN. You look like GARBAGE in the eyes of prime women.
I am fucking sick of GYMCEL RETARDS acting as if good genetics = muscular.
NO RETARD, GOOD GENETICS = TALL and HANDSOME with good BONES.
>>36861531
HNGGGGGGGGGGGG. I'd make you my bottom desu
>>36858531
never post here again
>>36861617
Hit the nail on the head, senpai. If half of you retards realized this, you could focus on properly lifting. Rather than worrying about anvar dosing and aspirating your ass
>>36858335
>its that easy
Yep diet and actually lifting is pretty easy. Gear just multiplies the gains you would have made anyway
>>36861475
Is there anyway to make up aesthetics if you're ugly Anon?
>sadpepeface.jpg
And why no trip?
>>36860587
Holy shit bruh, if you havent left the thread yet what's your bodyweight/height and lifts?
>>36861617
look at this guy, he want to tell me something serious because he's writing in caps lock and shit
i never had to lift to compensate anything, because i'am highly attractive. It's all about face, nothing else matters. so, i don't really why we should value your post exactly?
girls always are attracted to me, without doing any effort for it.
so, you argument, is based on a pile of shit
yet again. but i give you credits because you tried
project your inferior genetics on someone else fedora
but let's compare your face with mine and we will end this for once and for all.. oh know.. you don't, because you're too secure
lmfao
>>36861670
150lbs 5'7, lifting for 4 years PPL.
>>36858335
WAIT A FUCKING SECOND. I THINK I KNOW THAT FUCKING FAGGOT.
> chkmie, is that you?
>>36861692
>tfw you will never look as good as Mast natty
>tfw you will never look as good as Mast on gear
Feels bad man
On the plus side I think I'm almost ready to place an order for babbys first blast
>>36861430
wew lad, look at those bitch wrists.
>>36861692
masT brah, I've been mirin you for a while when I lurk fraud. I'd like to do a first cycle. I've been lifting a year and I've got routine and diet down. The info regarding /fraud/ is so confusing and overwhelming. What's a good first cycle? And I don't plan on cruising, just cycling every 3 months or so.
I can't find a decent beginners guide. :(
>>36858335
not shown: sustained effort in and out of the gym
>>36861617
>>36860792
>>36860707
HOLY FUCK THIS IS FUCKING AWSOME.
THE HEIGHT FACE FRAME AUTIST, THE BIGGEST ROIDER ON 4CHIN AND SOME NATTY DUDE HAVING A HUGE FIGHT ON /fit/.
pls give me more.
>>36861768
Reddit has a good beginner guide
500mg test p/w for 12-16 weeks
Dbol kickstart if you want it for first 4 weeks
Have an AI of you need it
Have pct ready before you start
Ez Pz
>>36861692
>>36861731
that's all?
>>36861768
test-e for 14 weeks(500mg test-e)
2 weeks after your last shot you PCT with nolva
40/40/20/20mg ( 4 weeks)
I also cycle. This is my third cycle, but i might do my first bnc
there is plenty of info to find on the internet
>>36861800
Thank you, dubs. I know it's meme, but if I know cycle once a year, will my natty test levels be permanently lowered, even after PCT. And I'm not near my natural limit, still need 30lbs or so, once I hit my natty limit and stop frauding, how much of my gains will I lose?
>>36861786
>huge fight
masT talking about how aesthetic and based he is (opinion)
natty dude saying that he thinks he looks better (opinion)
random autistic dude being autistic
:^)
>>36861848
>Thank you, dubs. I know it's meme, but if I know cycle once a year, will my natty test levels be permanently lowered, even after PCT.
Maybe from a beginner cycle with proper pct it is unlikely
>And I'm not near my natural limit, still need 30lbs or so, once I hit my natty limit and stop frauding, how much of my gains will I lose?
None if you pct properly and your natural test production isn't suppressed in anyway. You need to keep diet in check and keep lifting obviously. You should keep most your gains if you are smart about everything
>>36861704
Low test Beta who has never felt test flowing in dem veins
>>36858697
lol you never "come off" test
>>36858697
>wrong unless you're retarded
>hair over muscle kek, grow a beard if you're that insecure about it
this still only applies to those with a predisposition for balding, too.
>you'll look like shit when you come off
not if you do it right, or just stay on TRT dose for the rest of your life
>gyno
you'd have to be fucking autistic to get gyno
>>36858360
>calories from digestion is exactly same as creation
Yeah man, fuck entropy. It's just a perfect thermodynamically reversible battery
>>36861241
I think masT is pretty delusional, but he doesnt look better than him natty.
MasT's natty body is like Jeff Seid level. I admit he looks complete shit now, he just got too fucking big, but his natty pictures (if they are natty) are pretty perfect.
>>36861989
BnC for life
>>36861617
bro he posted his face already and he is pretty good looking desu.
no homo
>>36862085
Height [ ]
Frame [ ]
Face [ x ]
1/3 ain't good. Also only a third of his face is visible, and you can tell his skin is in bad shape.
MasT I'm glad you're working to fill the void JM's suicide has left us with.
Pls don't anhero when your g4p pics leak though
I bet you have a bretty nice butthole, too
>>36862185
What happened to JM? I haven't lurked fraud in a long time.
>>36860879
but when does
>trolling
stop, and become a defining feature of your
>personality
>>36860214
There is no fucking way you are natural in that picture. Even my girlfriend agrees you're too ripped.
>>36862312
I posted old pictures of him spreading and gaping his asshole and other fine poses because he pissed me off.
And I don't even lift.
>>36861835
masT would 100mg of test do anything for me?
Nothing like your gains but I have no clue how to into roids and would just like faster recovery without ruining my FSH and test production and shit
>wrong thread
>fraud
nigga I am asking masT because I am having fun reading his post and don't fee like leaving and this guy has some personal experience other anons can give advice if they want
Fyi, Mast had cycled prior to every single pic of him posted in this thread
>>36862369
have fun sterilizing yourself
>>36862420
he's a bitch, like all trips.
>>36861835
Weird question: what ab exercises do you do? In most of your pics they're quite well defined even at higher bf%
>>36858444
How long was your cycle? Also wtf 15
>>36862369
>100mg
I think that ends up being above average test levels. Just do 250mg a week it's easier to draw and puts you at the top range
>>36861989
>>36862034
How Blast and cruise works exactly? What are the risks involved? Do you take AI too? Do your balls shrink to the size of peanuts?
>>36862352
cuck
>>36862551
>How Blast and cruise works exactly?
You drop to a cruise dose ~250+ mg after blasting high amounts. You cruise for as long as you blasted or longer. The advantage is you don't put your body through the stress of pct
>What are the risks involved?
Same as cycling minus the pct part
>Do you take AI too?
Always have AI for if you need ot
>Do your balls shrink to the size of peanuts?
They do normally shrink
>>36862522
I really don't want the big and roidy look I really just want faster recovery so could I do like 80 or 50mg and is there just a better option to improve recovery?
Is masT getting too big?
>>36862690
When you inject test you generally assume you are going to crash your natural production
So in majority of cases anything below 100mg will be worse than your natural production. I could have my numbers off by a bit but I'm pretty sure that's right
So
>average ~100
>top end ~250
Go ask in /fraud/ if you really want to know. Several trips there know a lot about this sort of thing
>>36862785
will do, thanks man
>>36858335
Oh for fucks sake.. That's depressing
>>36858335
>roids
just end ur life
