Just took my first dose today and wanted to ask questions to others who've had experience:
1. What side effects did you notice? (I know dead sleeps and extreme hunger are two, are there others?)
2. How long before you noticed any difference to gains, strength, etc?
3. If you had liquid form, how do you get the god awful taste of what I can only assume is a mixture of gasoline and shitty vodka out of your mouth?
Shameless self bump.
mk-677 seems kinda pointless by itself to me
Why dont you just take test?
>>36791953
I am six weeks into eight weeks of MK677 and LGD4033.
Having run a previous cycle with just LGD4033, I regret spending money on MK677 and not just buying more LGD4033. It doesn't seem to do much at all, and I know Ceretropics is on the level.
I have noticed no side effects. All gains are inline with the LGD4033 alone.
I am used to the taste. Drinking a light juice might help.
You have to take it for about 5-6 months to notice the "gains".
Bump
Does anyone else on /fit/ have any experience with this?
>>36792660
Trying to avoid anything that could mess with my junk.
>>36792684
That's disappointing to hear. Think it could just be the LGD heavily outweighing the MK in terms of effectiveness?
>>36793007
I figured I'd try it around a year if I noticed anything, I just wanted a ballpark of how long I should expect. Thanks.
>>36793263
I would recommend you do A 5 on 2 off for cycles lasting a year, the 2 day off won't hurt your gains, once the system is saturated with igf1 it takes a while for it to go away... and it gives your pituitary gland 2 days off a week, not that it's necessary but it won't hurt, cheers m8
>>36791953
You know, if you could just be happy with yourself and natty lifting, you wouldn't have to worry about weird drugs and their effects.
You'd be better off figuring out the underlying cause of what compels you to this.
>>36793007
This. All MK677 is, is an oral bioavailable ghrelin agonist. It basically sets the hormonal wheels in motion for your hypothalamus to increase the amount and frequency of GH.
Even if you were taking multiple IU's of actual GH a day you wouldnt see much more by itself. And 25 or 50mg of mk a day is not even close to an equivalent of exogenous gh.
Its not pointless, especially when cutting (keeps igf-1 levels high), or when taken by elderly populations (whose hpta stops producing gh entirely), but is not gonna put a slab or muscle on you.
But then, neither is actual GH by itself.
Also, the receptor cells in your hpta become desensitized significantly after a few days of use, so a 5 day on, 2 days off or a 4 day on, 3 day off will be better for you, long term.
>>36793326
This is some gay liberal cuck commie bullshit. How sad!
>>36793338
Is LGD-4033 worth any time/money? The reviews and experiences I'm reading about it seem to be promising
>>36793344
Lol nice memeing there Robin.
>>36793313
I've considered that because of seeing it on some other threads. I think after the first month I'll probably swap to 5/2.
>>36793326
The reason I'm doing it is for quick weight gain. I've been 120lbs my entire life up until a year ago when I started lifting every day and eating tons more. But I want more. I'm not looking to get competition huge, I just want a boost to 180-190 where I'll happily stay.
>>36793370
Sorry you guys don't want to have aesthetic memes or bodies
>>36793373
Edit:
I said "quick weight gain" and understand this stuff isn't "quick". I meant a boost towards weight gain without just making myself a lardass.
Phrasing is such a wonderful thing.
so.. is LGD-4033 legal? do some countries ban it? I need some instruction how to take that and how much would a year long cycle cost me if I were to take it every day.
>>36793473
It's legal in the only country that matters (USA)
>>36793373
You won't stay at that weight when you remove the thing that made it possible.
>>36793391
I'm considered a modern day Adonis, through chanting socialist hymns. Try again kiddo.
>>36793528
Being a fat neckbeard with a megaphone and his own webpage does not make you Adonis, no matter how many socialist slogans you regurgitate
>>36793528
It's not making it possible, though? It's not giving me muscle, it's just helping produce some hormones and increase hunger to speed the process. Maintenance is simple, it's the building that's a pain.
>>36793482
'Merica, where we take the "research" chemicals branded "Not for human consumption" and perform our own personal human testing. Hoo-ah.
Mk 677 is more effective stacked with actual peptide ghrelin memetics. You could eek out 4-6iu of growth in this fashion. Done properly over 6-12 months you could gain 5-10lbs of dense tissue from hyperplasia that you will never lose.
Tedious. Better used for skin, sleep, tendon health. Lypolytic though, helpful on a cut.
>>36793676
Except LGD-4033 is expressly branded for human consumption, you mealy-mouthed cuck. Do you even know what you're talking about, or are you just shitposting because of your blind hate toward capitalism and the USA? SARMs are not the same thing as steroids, just to give you a heads up.
>>36793663
Honestly I don't know. I do know that people have a natural weight that their body will gravitate towards. Mine is around 145 currently, used to be 140, but I would put on muscle, then stop and it will always return to whatever my base weight is.
I imagine if you put on THAT MUCH MORE weight, than is your base, it will go back espeically since it's not naturally done.
But I dont know.
>>36793743
You've totally misunderstood the natural weight thing
If you get to 190 and held that for a year you wouldn't naturally end up at 145
>>36793757
If you stoped lifting you would. You would lose the mass.
Where did you buy it
>>36793813
You don't understand a metabolic set point and how myofibrills are developed.
>>36793743
It's not hitting 190 and then becoming a couch potato. It's hitting 190 then eating maintenance calories and working out just enough to not degrade.
>>36793823
>>36793832
I admit my ignorance here, but it has been true for me personally.
Teach me more.
>>36793813
of course if you stop lifting you're going to lose mass
however people lose muscle incredibly slowly, and if you held 190 for a year you'd be much more likely to not lose weight
GH will not stop that
>>36793876
When you create new muscle cells from stem cells or satellite cells, these cannot be lost; it's a completely different process from hypertrophy.
I started lifting at 160lvs and hit 215 within 6 months. Got lazy didn't lift, lost weight but my set point increased from 160 to ~185lbs just through increased dense tissues.
>>36994234
>not feeIing your feels on tfwhen.com
>>36793912
Interdasting. Did you stop the sterons too?
>>36793473
Do a year long cycle of LGD.
>>36793961
This was all natty years ago.
>>36791953
enjoy crashing your test for no gains
>>36791953
Why not run peg mgf instead? Way better results and not going to crash your test
>>36793971
This does nothing to your test
>>36793362
Yes. Significant suppression and a drop off in effectiveness after about 6 weeks though. Having run twice for 8 and then 10 weeks, Ill keep future runs to 6. Thats when i really started to notice a decrease in effectiveness.
Ive also run ostarine at 20mg/day (10 weeks and diddnt feel suppressed like with lgd, but is still suppressive). It made my joints feel better, but definitely wasnt as strong as lgd.
>>36793362
I am running it right now. Things are going OK, preferred my time on ostarine though. Even with the increased cost of an ostarine cycle over ligandrol I think my next go round will be ostarine.
>>36791953
i took mk and lgd for five weeks. i seriously put on about 8lbs in a couple of weeks, and had a crazy pump in the gym which went down a bit after, but was sort of always there like a semi-permanent pump. my friends were making comments about how much bigger i was looking, and it did seem to give me more fuel in the gym, felt motivated but could easily have been placebo or due to the fact my arms were bigger and more vascular all the time. two weeks after taking it, deflated 8lbs in a week. didnt like how it gave me pregnant woman ankles though, not sure id take it again.
>>36794170
>two weeks after taking it
meant to say two weeks after i stopped taking it, sorry
>>36794170
>>36794188
So would you say you kept some of your gains you made on the LGD or no?
I'm thinking about bulking the trigger on LGD but I'm also looking at buying some other shit for a "mini PCT" after just in case
>>36794481
id say i kept some gains. weight is back to where it was before i started, but my arms are clearly more vascular and my clothes fit me better, ive actually run out of notches on my belt and need to get a smaller one.
>>36795004
And you didn't do a post-cycle therapy after?
>>36792684
>, I regret spending money on MK677 and not just buying more LGD4033
>>36793262
both of them are shit compared to even a low dose of 250mgs test
>>36795046
I'm a pussy who hates needles, and I'm too paranoid of messing with my natural test production
>>36795004
>I've kept the same weight
>My waist is bigger though
>Not understanding the concept that muscle is denser than fat
Assuming you indeed did stay the same weight, the answer is you've gotten fatter phahaha, that's why your belt no longer fits you
>>36794481
I'd say >>36794170 is an exception (or maybe he just stopped eating). I did an 8 week cycle of LGD and I kept all my gains.
>>36795038
You don't need to PCT on LGD-4033. The risks of running nolva are higher than anything LGD-4033 could do to you (low test for a few weeks, boohoo).
>>36795098
Never done any kind of PED before but I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on LGD4033.
Should I treat it just like an AAS cycle (eat big + lift heavy) without the PCT afterward? An anon in /fraud/ told me I could run it while making noob gains, but I'm a little skeptical about that.
>>36795046
At a fraction of the cost, with no test shutdown, no aromatisation, no acne, etc.
>>36795121
It should be taken during a bulk and you should be lifting at a high volume.
Research and logs for SARM cycles are very scarce, especially for beginners so how much of an impact it will have on someone already making easy weekly noob gains is an uncertainty. It definitely won't hurt but whether it's worth doing is a mystery. You could wait until later but there really isn't much risk to it, plus you can hop on another cycle within 2 months so it's kind of whatever.
>>36795080
He said a smaller belt, meaning his is too big, meaning he lost inches. Dumbass.
>>36795038
no, i didnt do a PCT. ive read conflicting things regarding it, and figured id risk it and skip it since the side effects of PCT dont seem like a lot of fun. no issues with it at all.
i think a lot of guys think they need it because they get paranoid and start rubbing their nipples to check for gyno, and surprise surprise their nipples get sensitive because they're pinching them all the fucking time.
>>36795080
>>36795347
kek'd n' rek't.
>>36795347
to be fair my belt was on its last notch, so i may have lost an inch at most. really wish i wouldve done pre/during/post measurements, if i do another cycle after my cut ill definitely do that, but swollen ankles are a bitch to jog with.
>>36796545
I bet. At least you got some gains though, I just hope they weren't all from the LGD for my sake. I wouldn't mind doing a set of it but I get really nervous about the effects.
>>36796587
definitely take time to do research and take my experience with a grain of salt since the only thing i can comment on is being the same weight, my clothes fitting better, and my arms being slightly more vascular. my big warning would be to research a reputable source since sarms arent regulated and rumour has it some people sell prohormones instead.
