What do you think about the egg yolks? Safe to eat?
>>36677188
Pretty dangerous shit if you ask me. I think they should be outlawed.
I don't eat chicken periods
They are delicious and yes they are safe to eat.
>>36677188
falling for this meme, hurr durr my egg whites
Yolks are no joke. Throw em out.
>>36677188
If you're not a hyperrresponder to dietary cholesterol or have an otherwise shit diet they're harmless.
>>36677195
I dont know why but this made me seriously chuckle
>>36677268
Or you could not be a pussy and exercise?
Good source of fats. As TinyTrip said, "eat the yolk".
>>36677541
This
If you aren't part of the 25% of the population that responds to dietary cholesterol, yolks make no difference.
>>36677751
I guess you might as well eat a pound of tuna everyday, cuz
> muh masculinity
> stop being a pussy
Right?
>>36677541
>>36677820
>according to the egg industry
>>36677268
>this just in, results from hyperlipidemic adults above age 50 are perfectly applicable to healthy adults of half that age
oh wait, they aren't, because you're retarded.
2/3 of the fat in egg yolks is monounsaturated, which is the fat in olive oil and avocado that everyone needs more of.
Eggs aren't giving everyone heart attacks, processed fats and carbs do. Vegetable oils and sugar.
>>36677886
ES16.
• There is insufficient evidence to determine whether lowering dietary cholesterol reduces LDL–C.
Source: American Heart Association
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/11/11/01.cir.0000437740.48606.d1.long
Try again vegan fag.
>>36677886
No, according to science of lipid metabolism
>>36678014
Kek. The aha is horseshit. The diet they put out for lowering heart disease risk increased the risk of heart disease
>>36678078
>According to vegan shills
>>36677188
Eat away, it's a healthy fat bomb. No harm in a full egg or two on a daily basis. :)
>>36678014
>There is insufficient evidence to determine whether lowering dietary cholesterol reduces LDL–C.
They found insufficient evidence to make a strict formula for dietary cholesterol's effects like they had for saturated and trans fats. They only reviewed evidence published after 1998, which is after the two largest meta-analysis on dietary cholesterol and serum lipids were published, and during the period with the most studies published by the egg industry. A meta-analysis published in 1992 was able to create a formula.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/55/6/1060.full.pdf+html
>>36678691
The background diet is terribly controlled here. Many of those use high SFA:UFA ratios in their protocol.
>>36678211
What if I eat six... every day... for the past year. Should I be dead? Because my blood pressure, heart rate, fasting glucose, and gainz are all pretty sick. I've also dropped 50lbs.
>>36677188
>Safe to eat?
No I died when I tried to eat a yolk. Luckily I ate an Alpha egg so when I died I infected the nervous system of the Omega and now I can control time, essentially going back to that moment before I ate that yolk.
If you're that afraid just get pasteurized eggs.
>>36679085
Even the one that used a 15% fat diet found highly significant changes in cholesterol levels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2123481/pdf/brmedj02487-0043.pdf
>Despite its high iodine value and high content of essential fatty acids, egg-yolk lipid when it is fed gives rise to a prompt and marked increase in serum cholesterol levels.
They even provided a graph showing the rise when egg yolk was fed and the fall when egg yolk was taken out of the diet. The effect of the change also rises linearly with the amount of cholesterol eaten.
>>36678691
Harvard agrees,
American heart Association agrees
National Heart Lung and Blood Institute agrees
But ya, your paper from 1992 is the most relevant data.
Or is it that it just the one that agrees with you?
Egg yolks are fucking awesome.
I like to make eclairs so I'll save my yolks to make the custard filling.
>>36679221
>Unironically linking data from the 50s
Are you serious right now?
Dietary cholesterol has never been shown to raise serum cholesterol except in rare cases. The FDA removed dietary limits on cholesterol as with almost every country in the world. People have eaten eggs by the bushel for thousands of years and didn't start getting hear disease until the 1950's. Eat em and wheep.
>>36679221
% fat has nothing to do with it. The degree of saturation is much more important. For example
dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF02536280
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev-nutr-071714-034449
>>36679235
>Harvard agrees
They recommend not eating more than 1 egg a day because their own studies have shown increased risk of heart failure with only 1 or 2 eggs a day
>American heart Association agrees
Again, they reviewed data published after the period when most of the data on the topic was collected, and declared they had insufficient data to make the same kind of recommendation as their saturated/trans fat recommendations. They asked for more research to be done, they didn't say dietary cholesterol has no effect on cholesterol levels.
>National Heart Lung and Blood Institute agrees
Source on that?
The Institute of Medicine and National Academies of Science still say that there's a clear relationship between dietary cholesterol, LDL, and risk of heart disease, because they didn't draw arbitrary lines when reviewing data.
http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Nutrition/DRIs/New%20Material/8_Macronutrient%20Summary.pdf
>>36679310
If you keep fat intake constant but add varying amounts of dietary cholesterol, and the more cholesterol you add the higher the serum cholesterol rises, wouldn't it be fair to say the dietary cholesterol is causing that rise?
>>36679382
Saturated fat does cause a rise in total cholesterol, however that rise is temporary when the user is making a diet switch. Say from one egg per day to four.
The rise in cholesterol from saturated fat, and in particular from eggs, has no proven connection to cardiovascular events.
https://authoritynutrition.com/10-proven-health-benefits-of-eggs/
>>36679382
Sure but it would be wrong to interpret it beyond the health/lifestyle/dietary pattern of the person consuming it.
If they don't eat any fiber, their body isn't going to be able to rid itself of excess sterols.
If all their fat comes from corn starch, casein, white bread, and egg yolk, their LDLR/LRP/etc activity isn't going to be high enough to even internalize them out of the blood.
If you throw something new at their body without providing enough time for adaptation (increase CYP27A1 expression, etc) you don't know if you're getting a response or if it's a stress response
>>36679467
>Saturated fat does cause a rise in total cholesterol, however that rise is temporar
that's complete bullshit, at least in humans
>authoritynutrition.com
oh
>>36679467
>Saturated fat does cause a rise in total cholesterol, however that rise is temporary when the user is making a diet switch.
It's a rise for however long that person is eating that amount of saturated fat. If you lose weight after making a diet switch, that weight loss could temporarily lower your cholesterol though.
>The rise in cholesterol from saturated fat, and in particular from eggs, has no proven connection to cardiovascular events.
Now you just sound like a crazy person.
>authoritynutrition
Do I really need to go through this article again? Even the papers he cites to make eggs sound good (as he was paid to do http://www.eatdrinkpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/Blogger-plan-including-the-targets.pdf) show that eggs raise LDL levels
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/2/247.short
>Egg yolk supplementation increased plasma LDL-cholesterol concentrations by 8–11%
>The benefit of introducing these carotenoids into the diet with egg yolk is counterbalanced by potential LDL-cholesterol elevation from the added dietary cholesterol.
And that was in a paper funded by the egg industry. Nearly every citation on that page has ties to industry.
>>36679586
Whatever, I guess you could go eat this crap. http://followyourheart.com/veganegg/
No point in arguing, diet is very YMMV. If tofu gets you off, go for it. I'll stick with eggs for satiety, vitamins, and adequate whole-food fat intake.
>>36679586
>
And that was in a paper funded by the egg industry.
Ahh, right, vegans are exempt from the whole "profiting on food" thing. Right, my bad.
>>36679657
Who even mentioned vegans?
>>36679663
I assumed. Chicken breast has cholesterol too, so watch-yo-self. Your heart might explode.
>>36677188
BAN ASSAULT YOLKS!
>>36677841
except it's been shown that exercise lowers bad cholesterol.
>>36679326
All studies and organizations quoted use RISK FACTORS, which in and of themselves are statistical calculations based on inferences.
Zero (0) studies have shown a direct causation of dietary cholesterol or egg consumption and actual occurrences of heart disease. The evidence just is not there.
Find one study and cite it and prove me wrong.
Harvard, the ADA, etc keep citing the same shit cause it will make them look bad if they say "hey you know how we told you not to eat eggs, well we were 100% wrong but we are right this time, trust us."
>>36677967
>2/3 of the fat in egg yolks is monounsaturated, which is the fat in olive oil and avocado that everyone needs more of.
The health benefits of avocado and olive oil come from the polyphenols and other phytochemicals they contain, not the MUFA. MUFA without them might worsen health.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25256234
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23995233
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12562836
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23804810
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7489230
>Eggs aren't giving everyone heart attacks, processed fats and carbs do. Vegetable oils and sugar.
Depends on how many are consumed. While one/day may be safe this isn't a license to gorge on them. There's no human data available on CVD events when people replace all their calories from oils and sugar with eggs. Non-human primate literature suggests this probably isn't a very good idea.
And if you cook them they are definitely a "processed fat". Massive increase in oxidized cholesterol and other ALEs
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/10/particle-size-lcat-analysis-shows-three.html
>>36679763
Anecdotal, but: I ate 4-6 eggs every fucking morning for pretty much 2 years straight. I'm alive and kicking and my heart + cholesterol levels are absolutely fine.
Fear mongers can fuck right off
>>36679804
>disease that takes 45-60 years to manifest symptoms
>hurr durr 2 years and i'm absolutely fine
>>36679763
>Zero (0) studies have shown a direct causation of dietary cholesterol or egg consumption and actual occurrences of heart disease. The evidence just is not there.
>Find one study and cite it and prove me wrong.
Here's a meta-analysis that found even a few eggs a week, less than 1 a day, was associated with higher risk of heart disease and diabetes
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23643053
Even the meta-analysis that the authoritynutrition guy cited (which I could go off on as well), showed an increased risk of death from heart disease in diabetics who ate eggs
It might not be causal proof in and off itself, but if you're asking for a direct study where humans were fed eggs in a lab until their hearts stopped working, obviously that doesn't and couldn't exist
When I was little i thought that you could hatch a chicken if you kept an egg long enough
had an egg sitting in my room for a while. chicken never came out
>>36679804
>cholesterol levels are absolutely fine
What are they?
>>36679847
Fear monger leave
>>36677188
if not then i'm fucked, 6-10 a day here.
>>36677188
Not safe, i ate one once and it tried to fcking choke me little yellow bastard
>>36677197
Fun fact, the yolk is actually NOT the chicken fetus, but what the fetus consumes as it grows in the egg.
>>36677188
I usually just do 1-2 whole eggs and then 2-3 egg whites.
