Just got back from the chiropractor because of some lower back pain.
Apparently I'm losing the disc under my L5. I'm to avoid axial loads, so deads and squats are officially out for me. I'll miss them. Got any suggestions for me, fit?
>chiropractor
See an actual doctor m8.
>>36336948
I did. He sent me to the chiropractor.
>>36336909
You're now a Curlbro4lyfe.
>>36336973
wtf? pls be trolling
go to another
deadlifts and squats are meme excersises anyway. Unless you are a powerlifter.
If your aim is to be aesthetic /lift for girls, then you shouldn't even be doing them
>>36336974
plsno
>>36336973
Oh for fuck's sake. Chiropractice is a pseudo-medicine, feel free to go to them if they make you feel good but you need an actual doctor for problems, especially with serious shit like your spine or your back. Get a referral to a physiotherapist.
>>36336909
suggestions?
how bout seppuku
>>36337046
Don't you have chiropractors that are actual doctors where you live?
I'd never go to a chiropractor who isn't one, they're kinda tough to find but they do exist. Chiropractice isn't magic and it isn't bullshit, it CAN help a lot, except when they use it for curing cancer and shit like that.
>>36337097
Only in america lol. Europe values real doctors not snake oil. You wont find chiropractors in any government institution here
>>36337097
Smart advice. OP had a spinal injury, went to a doctor, who referred him to a spinal specialist. He did everything right.
>>36337097
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic
It's not snake oil tier but it's still alternative medicine which means you're gambling, which imo you can afford to do with your back/spine. It's on the same level as getting acupuncture for back pain.
>>36337169
*can't afford to
>>36337162
Chiropractor - spinal specialist lol only in murica burger land
>>36337169
There is no alternative medicine. Just medicine or stuff that doesnt work. Which then usually is called placebo at best.
>>36336973
>>36337036
Have never seen bait this bad....
>>36337200
The placebo shit that doesn't work still goes on under the euphemism 'alternative medicine', like your homeopathy, chinese medicine and yes, chiropractics. Doctors and medical institutions call them out on their bullshit all the time but that doesn't stop them running and getting bazillions of patients. The problem here is I don't know why the fuck a GP would refer OP to one instead of a physio. That shit isn't normal, or at least shouldn't be.
>>36337162
>>36336973
It isn't OP's fault at all by the way, he really did do everything right.
>>36337155
>Europe values real doctors not snake oil.
Yeah right, because homeopathy isn't widespread at all..
The bad thing about branding chiropractors as frauds and putting them in the same category as other bullshit is, that sometimes the only thing you actually need to ease your headache, for example, is to get a backrub.
Especially when muscles are involved, you musn't discount them, because they can be incredibly useful. Just don't use them to cure flu/cancer/stds/etc
>>36337323
You can get a massage from a professional sports masseuse or physio mate
>>36337323
The problem with chiropractors isn't that they pretend to cure cancer or something, that's illegal anyway. The problem is if you go to them for a problem with your spine and they say that they can fix it with adjustments when you might actually need surgery or something. That's where this shit is absolutely poisonous.
>>36337036
>for girls
>>36336973
Jesus fucking christ.
Nursing student here. I was recently interning for 8 weeks on an orthopedic ward. The SPECIALISTS who work there, the ATTENDING ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS all said that chiropractors are a bunch of frauds.
Find another doctor.
What's the difference between a physiotherapist and chriopractor/naprapath?
>>36337487
one actually goes to a good school to learn about the body
the other is a chiropractor
physiotherapist = physical therapy = medical research
Go to a different doctor.
>>36336909
Try still doing it only with bar or even without any weight. IMHO deadlift shouldn't be abandoned because it's great posture wise. Of course you won't get huge gains but you can still look and feel decent.
Just to be clear by doing deads without any weight I don't mean doing some half assed situps but rather engaging glutes, pecs etc as if you were doing proper deads. Also do yoga, this is your life now.
Research alternatives to traditional squats and deadlifts. Zercher squats for example are supposed to compress the spine less or not at all
>>36337990
These look really stupid, and like they put compression on your spine like the rest.
>>36336909
Back extension to replace DL and leg press/leg extension to replace squats.
>>36338922
What does it matter if they look stupid? The spinal compression isn't the same as back squat ,you would know this if you had ever performed the exercise and felt the difference.
>>36336909
Don't listen to chiros. They don't know shit. Their entire profession is a complete fucking sham based on non-sense and a complete lack of credible evidence.
Go to a real doctor god damn it.
>>36336909
Buy some kettlebells and work on your functional strength.
OP you need an osteopath not a chiropractor
>>36337416
Some doctor recommend surgery when it isn't even necessary and the issue can be elevated by lifestyle changes.
I had a bad spot in my spine. Doctors wanted surgery, due to sports I was hesitant. I go to the chiropractor and he asked me about what position I sleep in. Change what position I sleep in and 4 months later after taking new x-rays NY doctor no longer recommended surgery.
All I'm saying is it depends on the issue at hand
was bending over to get my shoes to go to the gym today and my back seized up. Never felt anything like it before. I could barely sit down much less bend over. I stretched it out as best as I could for 15 min then still hit the gym (only bench and pull-ups since I was tight on time today). Is my back fucked or will it heal up?
>>36337036
I thought the meme dream was to do the big lifts for a while to build strength then switch to PPL for aesthetics?
>>36342645
If you had read almost any reply in this thread, you would know to go see a doctor.
>>36340440
This
>>36342645
Lie on a hard floor, breathe deep and concentrate on tensing/reducing tension in the muscles in your back. It sounds weird but tense your chest and stomach and pull your chest/stomach toward the ground. I occasionally get a very uncomfortable lingering pain and numbness in my mid-upper back which can only be relieved by rolling it out or doing what I said above. Look after your back mate.
>>36336909
Yoga helps, OP. No lie. Stretch those discs.
>>36343200
>lifting makes you taller
kek
>>36336909
>Chiropractor
>being this retarded
You should see a orthopedic surgeon and get xrays.
>>36343485
no but living past the age of 13 sure does
>>36337432
>Nursing student
post tits
How about seeing a physiotherapist?
idk why /fit/ hates chiros
Mine fixed my golfers elbow and knee pain.
>>36336909
>losing the disc
What the fuck does that mean? It's getting worn down? Guess what, this happens to everyone you little bitch. Best way to keep your lower back pain-free is to correct any ham/glute/hip flexor imbalances you might have, by stretching and strengthening them. For example, I have a shitty disc too, but the pain is caused by impingement due to muscle imbalances, like my hammies are insanely tight. Google for the strectches, but the best way to strengthen those muscle groups is to squat and deadlift.
>>36344323
>living past the age of 13
Even big fat fatties make it to at least 30.
>>36336909
The amount of anti-chiropractic shilling on /fit/ is honestly astounding.
It's fucking hilarious that the "like surgeons and stuff who like totally agree with me" who are being "cited" here would all give you a double hip replacement in a second if you had any pain.
Also the shills can't get their argument straight. The main two I hear are:
>when you get adjusted, NOTHING MOVES ITS JUST CRACKING!!!!1!
And also
>they don't know what they're moving u culd die!!!1!
So which is it, fucknuts? Does it do "literally nothing" or does it "omg kill you in5 seconds?"
Anyway, I'm not goin to sit here and shill chiropractics to you. I'm just saying to do your own research before you ask a bunch of idiots on /fit/ who get their lifting advice from delusional trannies.
>>36347158
Some chiropractic treatment has become more mainstream and science based, but it emerged from weird ideas about vital-ism like a western new age qi gong, they also claimed and still often do that realignment can help with a host of unrelated issues like cancer/autism etc.
The quick rough motion can also be potentially dangerous, some negligent practitioners are very rough with young children and could cripple them for life.
>>36346126
kek
I think the main thing with chiropractics is that people go there expecting a cure and often what they get are a treatment of the symptoms (exactly what most doctors do). But for some reason chiropractics get shit on for this.
Of course, there are quite a few good ones who will look for and work to fix the underlying cause, just as their are doctors who will spend more then the time it takes to scan a chart with you and prescribe some medicine a nurse could of told you without waiting.
But they feel very feel and far between.
>>36336909
Fucking do single leg work you fucking plebian. bulgarian split squats with dumbbells, pistol squats, dumbbell step ups onto a box, or even bodyweight squats onto your boyfriends dick for reps
>tfw chiropractor always mirin my gains and tells me I'm too tall to squat
>tfw joocy cross country thighs so I wouldn't need them anyway
should I give her the D tall bros?
>>36347945
You should let her give you the strap-on D anon
>>36347158
If you could see country flag on here you would see it's all from countries that don't have proper chiropractors in place where it literally is homeopathic bullshit. Almost all professional sports medical staffs employ chiropractors and most good doctors will refer you to one if need be.
>>36336973
See an actual spinal surgeon/back doctor.
There's practices specifically devoted to this (and virtually every other body part and function).
Also get a new doctor because he's an idiot.
>>36336973
Find a real one.
>MRI
>>36347945
>Look at my joocy thighs! This is all thanks to cross country! I don't have to squat look at my giant legs!
>>36351972
i beat her vagina smells like kale chips and rotting shrimp.
>>36349317
Losing an intervertebral disc is really something that is kinda fucking obvious anyway.
So everyone ITT saying "go see a real doctor" is just fucking retarded.
