Serious question, ive been thinking about this quite a time;
Why does everybody on this board including myself have some form of mental disorder and problems with a GF, also ADD or OCD
?
>>36018463
>Be at Japanese anime board for little girls
>ask about mental disorders
>>36018463
because 4chan
Gym people = 50% mental disorders / 50% dudemanbro's
I'm def in the mental disorder side.
The quest for gains always starts with no gf.
Probably some traumatic experience, I started lifting because i want to show off to the girl who said i was shit.But now i lift for fun and stress relieving
>>36018463
bacause being a white man , and a man in general, in this age is really hard on the mind.
we are mocked, isolated, poisoned, demoralized, disillusioned.
it is hard to try to have goals: family, career, dignity, when it seems like everyone hates you for wrongs you have never done.
but do not despari or surrender, we can get over this dark age, i started out as a loser on 4chan, now i almost made it, you can do it too.
>be at 4chan
>ask why people are messed in the head
Because 4chan is a board where people are somewhat honest about themselves, since there is no profile of you. Most people have mental disorders and problems of some kind, it's normal.
>>36018463
Well, I don't, for sure - I am happy married and pretty sane.
People like me don't post "> tfwnogf" posts, or social anxiety posts, because we're out and about having a life.
Likewise we don't comment IN those posts with "I know that feel brah" because we don't know that feel.
The best thing is that that sort of sadness generally resolves itself with time. Most folks on this board are young - as they get older it sorts itself out.
Well i do oly lifting, i have a gf and stable life, no mental disorders.
Started lifting because i wanted to be strong like dad lel.
Because our culture is toxic and being healthy/physically fit is becoming too rare in at least American society. Fewer and fewer men are striving to be strong and manly so by defying the norm you set yourself apart and in my mind become better at life in general. Surely this mentality stems from some unhealthy tangent somewhere in my life but I've never once regretted all the time I've spent working out.
>>36018500
>happily married
>have kids
>spends his days on a turkish kebab review board
Why?
>>36018463
Not everyone have mental illness, maybe 20%. On this board it might be a little higher because it's an anonymous board.
>>36018520
No kids yet, but the short answer is:
a) it's interesting entertainment when on conference calls or on the shitter
b) /lit/ and /int/ (sometimes /tg/ when drinking) are less tfwnogf obsessed
>>36018481
false
>>36018481
true
>>36018463
Well I don't have problems with my Bf, I don't believe in ADD, and I'm not bad enough to be truly ocd. I have anxiety and I don't like large crowds of people/prefer to be alone. I judge people harshly because I judge myself harshy and a majority of people don't pass. I'm relatively content though.
I don't believe all of fit messed up, but a lot o you guys are. Especially the /r9k/ types, so sad
>>36018487
Someone likes to play the victim role.
>>36018463
Because great minds think alike?
>>36018651
>i dont believe in add
Did u vote trump also?
>>36018517
Lifting and becoming strong just further strengthens old western ideas of what's "masculine ". There's nothing abnormal/unique with what you're doing. Also your idea of "masculine " is not universal and therefore not even biologically driven. What you need is some culture and education, not a gym
>>36018487
>us white man
>>36018463
I have a gf and no mental disorder - though since I got a gf my gains have diminished
>>36018684
>did you vote trump
>did
The election isn't for a while dude. And I've actually never voted and I'm 26, I don't like any candidates(again high judgement standards).
I'm sorry your parents poisoned you with meds, but Im going to try to prevent those kind of atrocities from happening in the future. However if you're an adult poisoning yourself, its time to stop being the victim and regain control over your life.
Because its 4chan, normies use those bullshit forums like bb.com
mfw psychs claim
>aspd narc tends
>add/adhd
>mild body dysmorphia
I don't really agree with these diagnosises for the most part, though. I think (beyond body dysmorphia) none of these things have a huge overlay with /fit/ as much as 4chan/Internet communities. People are anonymous and more likely to express dysfunctional views/honesty with disorders. People who are generally less functional or belonging in society/normie culture (ie. People who have had mental health problems ) come here to belong to this community instead. And these same people may have not fit in or were rejected on some level in developmental years. They look to fitness as a form of self improvement that might lead to validation/revenge/belonging, something they were lacking in those formative years. Things like no gf etc are often just after effects of not having that social growth, so present skill base/self esteem is still lacking
>>36018720
I swallow ritalin 3 days a weeks
It is hell and pure joy at the same time
I hate it but i love it
>>36018484
This
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>>36018729
No clue why my phone didn't into paragraphs/spacing on this post
>>36018729
Pretty accurate here
>>36018729
>using trip on threads like this
>>36018463
> Successful
> Good looking
> ED while under 30
fml
>>36018759
How did u get ed
>>36018753
Lrn2filter
Since the dawn of humanity, men who have reproduced carried their progeny to this day. Most of them successfully seduced females and mated with them. However, there were exceptions too. These exceptional men were not successful in the art of seducing, so they had to compensate in order to play the game. Exceptional beauty, genetically bulky body, tall stature, raw intelligence, etc.
4chan is mostly composed of men who lack the 'art'. These men think too straightforward and lack some minor crucial human feelings to form a rapport with females.
What you forget is this: your ancestors endured through hardships; they abode torture, war, sickness, drought, famine... They passed their genetics through millennia and you are the product of this tremendous progeny. What you think you lack, lies within every cell of your body, your ancient genetic material.
You just have to compensate your way out. Being fit is a significant element of this compensation. When you improve yourself to a point, you will be successful. Your ancestors did it, you will do it too. Just don't give up.
>>36018729
Any "diagnosis " is subject to being a legit active disruption to your daily life and functioning before being subject to necessary treatment. If your "problem" isn't really a problem that negativelyis affecting your life often, then its not a problem that warrents treatment. Don't take the diagnosis seriously unless you or hose around you are having problems functioning
>>36018776
Don't know what caused it desu. Never did any hard drugs, never juiced. Just losing the genetic lottery I guess.
Most people on 4chan have some kind of disorder or problem that sets them apart from society and causes them to find comfort in anonymity.
>>36018818
Do u cycle on a bicycle? Do you have anxiety issues? Do u lack fat and meat in diet? Do you lack sun? Do you work too hard? do you have any days off?
I usually get my most massive boners on days off work/gym
Duh, because we're on 4chan.
That's like doing into a asylum and wondering why there's so many crazy people. It's because we can't really go anywhere else.
>>36018463
i made this picture 4 years ago ;_;7
>>36018517
Fucking kids and their cell phones.
Seriously though, there's absolutely nothing wrong with men not being "strong and manly".
If you want to act classically masculine, that's great, but don't think that it makes you in any way better than anyone else.
Not to say everyone shouldn't be fit. Just not "manly".
>>36018802
I whole heartedly agree
In my case I think the aspd diagnosis is the most useless, because there is no 'real' treatment for it, either way. There are therapies you can do to help cope with some symptoms if you desire (or are legally forced), but in my opinion they are wasting time
There is a problem with over diagnosis in our society. Any mental health professional worth their pay (most aren't) would not jump to label patients; the concept of self fulfilling prophecies and using the label as an excuse/crutch is very real. Humans seem to have an innate desire to understand things via categorization, so the process continues. Laziness, greed, etc are all further factors in why less people will agree with what you've just said, and instead perpetuate non-problemic 'illnesses'
>>36018971
also ive had a gf for 3 years and actually have a decent total in the 198 weightclass
so fuck you op
>>36018687
Old Western? Being physically fit and dominant is one of the most inherent instinctual drives regardless of the era.
Have you been outside lately? At least in America, being healthy and working out is EXTREMELY abnormal.
I have an education and appreciate just how little culture is available in modern society.
Honestly, you sound like a beta.
>>36018651
>I don't believe in ADD
Are you retarded? Knowing it's over-diagnosed is one thing, but thinking it's a myth is just completely backwards.
It's not about willpower, asshole, and it's not something you can relate to unless you've had it.
>>36018987
>have a gf
So u finally found one .. A year after that tfw no gf chest tattoo
Lol
>>36018785
>what is nature
>what is nurture
>and how are they different
because most mental disorders are psychiatrist memes
>>36018838
I have this issue for quite some time, disregarding my working schedule / stress level. I don't bike, except for some cardio like 2 - 3 times a month when I don't like to run.
My diet is more or less balanced and I don't have any anxiety issues. Tried viagra, but didn't do shit.
But the point which annoys me the most is that I can't have any healthy relationship at all, it always falls apart after a few weeks / months. I guess I will just kill myself at some point.
>>36018660
yes: feminists, niggers, faggots.
only thing they can do is cry sexism or racism, or bigotry, nothing else.
playing the victim would be if i said " we are mistreated we need help" what i said was "we are mistreated but we can overcome it".
so shove that up your ass.
>>36018694
indeed, that guys you posted is not a happy man, his life is shit, and it is so in part because of the enviroment which is hostile.
>>36018481
I'm gonna be the tie breaker and admit that it's true
>>36018481
false
Because our parents were retarded babyboomers who didn't know how to raise kids.
>>36018980
I honestly don't know how you can think that. What's your perception of "classically manly"?
>>36018499
>>most people have mental disorders
>>it's normal
i dont think you know what is the definition of nornal
>>36019001
>this reading comprehension
I lost my lunch laughing
I don't have any of those issues.
>>36019196
the babyboomers man.... we need to rid them from this earth
>>36018463
I used had sever OCD before i started lifting.
about a year later the compulsive thoughts have decreased alot. Its not completly gone, but im much better now than i was before.
Started lifting for many reasons. One them is to have an excuse that i can have a high standard for a gf. And to see how much can i accomplish with my genetics (sunken chest).
Im still far from my goal, but im getting less and less insecure about myself the more i lift. Still the only thing i should fix now is my sperg mind.
>tfw still no gf :(
>>36018463
it's because we are all the product of absent fathers
>>36019001
It seems like you didn't even read half of my post. What you believe to be "manly" is actually for the most part irrelevant to ones sex. There are cultures where the women go out and hunt and the men stay back and curl their hair and dress up to impress the women. What you believe to be a biological based expression is actually socially constructed
>I'm educated
Did you get your degree from clown college?
>>36019196
Just imagine the grown up offspring of millennials.
>>36019001
>At least in America, being healthy and working out is EXTREMELY abnormal
"no"
>>36018678
>because manlets think alike
Fixed
>>36019012
I personally saw my sister get ruined by "ADD". Shes now 30, fat, married to a tiny prick wih anger issues, and wasted all of her college money going to UCSD and gave up without any sort of degree to show for it. She never learned to be an adult because ADD was her excuse. Her pill addiction (or in her mind "medicine") wreaked havoc on her mind and body. I've seen it up close and personal. What you need is behavioral cognitive therapy, not another excuse to play victim and become a lifelong dependent drug addict.
>>36019145
(Psst! You're not supposed to be so obvious about trolling! It's supposed to be a secret!)
>>36018481
This is true
>>36019319
yes? Just go outside dude even people who're jogging at the park look like mashed potatoes
>>36018463
I only want a gf cause I want validation
im happy with my progress but the best judge of yourself, is someone else. cause we are all biased.
>>36019364
You saw a weak bitch find a great excuse, to be lazy and this proves that mental disorders aren't real, because...?
Fucking idiot. People use cancer as an excuse, too. It just means they're assholes, it says nothing about the illness, and it CERTAINLY says nothing about the people who actually suffer from the illness.
>>36018481
its true i started becuz i lost my gf cuz im autistic fuck
>>36018487
top fedoralel, this does not happen irl.You just read 2much tumblr
>>36018651
you said you have anxiety. thats a desease to on /fit/
>>36018463
Hey man, I just want to be strong enough to swing a sword like Gutz from Berserk. If that's a mental disorder, I don't want to be normal.
>>36018463
Normie here. I come here to shitpost and get motivated to lift.
>>36018785
This is the kind of shit OP is talking about you sperg
>>36019106
>But the point which annoys me the most is that I can't have any healthy relationship at all, it always falls apart after a few weeks / months. I guess I will just kill myself at some point.
Quite a leap there. Why is it, do you think, that your relationships fall apart when they do?
>>36018980
>there's absolutely nothing wrong with men not being "manly"
.....literally, what the fuck? Either I'm getting trolled here or that's a failure to understand basic concepts on an egregious level.
>it's OK to be a shark and not be shark-like
>>36019472
>Muh anekdoats
You realize there are statistics about this kind of stuff right? Obviously overall health is hard to measure, but most people aren't fat (which is clearly what you were implying, don't even try to weasel out of this by denying that), which makes your "EXTREMELY abnormal" claim very dubious. And while we're at it, other countries are overtaking us by leaps and bounds in that regard. We've been dropping lower and lower every year in world obesity rankings, and we're already way the fuck down in terms of fatness in general.
Also, how the hell is people trying to lose weight proof that literally everyone in the US is a fatty fat fat?
>>36019837
>most people arent fat
except you are wrong
most people ARE fat. or chubby. or eat shitty food every single day.
even that skeleton who eats crappy food is unhealthy.
>>36018463
Because since information about mental disorders became extremely accessible, people start diagnosing themselves.
I'm not saying falsely diagnosing themselves. Maybe all of us really do have these mental disorders.. in which case they aren't disorders. It's just so common that it's normal.
Whereas before, people with these 'disorders' didn't know it and therefor assumed they were normal. Unless otherwise told by people because it showed too much on the outside.
These days not many people keep things on the inside. Even those who do, they come here to tell people what's happening on the inside.
Maybe it's a good thing. Maybe it's not.
>>36019740
I discussed this quite open with a few of my ex gfs, it's mainly because they feel unfulfilled w/o real sex. And no, oral sex, sex toys and so on are not making up for that.
Ye, it's not all about sex, but it's a normal part of life.
>>36018484
Lift because I never really had friends.
>>36019895
Can't really blame them.
For them, sex (whilst in a relationship) has so many emotional components to it that we just don't have.
I've had gf's who genuinely have started laughing because they were so happy and their emotions were overwhelming them.
>inb4 she's laughing at you
Good joke but nah man
>>36018481
Truth right here
>>36019837
are you seriously trying to imply that the average american is healthy and in shape?
Jesus christ.
>>36019786
He was assuming things about what the poster meant by "manly."
I think what he means is that you should act however you want and not let someone saying you shouldn't stop you. In the end, is that not the most alpha thing to do?
>>36018476
HAHAHAHA
>this
I started to lift, because I hated myself. Now I hate myself even more but also 99% of people around me. And i have >tfwnogf not because I'm aspie or ocd or whatever, but becuase i became so fucking judgemtial, i found 99,9% of girls boring as shit, they have no goals in life except get married and pump the out some kids.
>>36020189
are you me?
im getting really fit and now im just bitter towards everyone, even girls
in my mind it's like "you didnt give a shit about me before, and now you care? fuck off"
>>36018481
True 100%
>>36019975
Ye, I'm not saying that it isn't normal to leave a relationship like this, just makes me hate myself even more.
>>36020261
Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread. I just seem something about you not giving out sex. Or bad sex or something to that effect.
Try viagra or something man. Or inject test
Because normal people don't want to spend their time funposting on a Scandanavian basket weaving forum
>>36018463
i have bipolar II, and my only problem with women is that i have a wandering eye.
too many women, only one of me
>>36018520
Another married anon here with no kids. I mostly browse sp and fit while taking a shit at work. We don't all spend significant time on these boards.
I'm quite normal
I'm just lonely
>>36020424
You're gonna make it, (You).
>>36018463
I wear glasses.
I should probably just kill myself.
But then I'd disappoint my emperor.
>>36018481
You speak the truth desu senpai
I started lifting and browsing fit because I wanted to get big for grills and fit helped keep me obsessed with lifting. I became more pessimistic and angry after being on for though because it's the general mood of this board. But it helped me feel like I belonged and I think the edginess is funny sometimes.
Now I lift mostly because I want to have a body I like but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to increase my sex appeal. But my motivation is seeing and feeling the pump after working out. And lifting is a cheap and fun hobby. I'm trying to cut down my time on this board and get some interesting hobbies now. Trying to get to the point where I'm only on this board when I have a few minutes to spare and nothing else productive to do.
>>36018463
i'm schizoid.
>>36018463
Everyone has problems, and everyone has strengths.
Your personal mission should be based on your strengths. You can't be everything or everyone. But you have a mission, and you will succeed. Not everyone can succeed at your mission.
>>36018481
This guy gets it
>>36018481
breakups make bodybuilders.
>>36018463
I have ADD and panic attacks, but I'm also married, graduated and have a pretty good job. I don't consider myself a mentally challenged / disabled person, but people here are easy to level with
>>36018463
I found out my manic depression was from my gut flora. I weighed 268 and now 215 but all that junk food and sugar fucked up my flora. I was walking around for a year with a gut infection. Felt depressed, social anxiety, heavy sweating. Been on antibiotics and feel much much better.
>>36018463
Because even the most vanilla people have "disorders"
>>36018500
>People like me don't post "> tfwnogf" posts, or social anxiety posts, because we're out and about having a life.
I'm married too, anon. But before that I had low points in my life where I knew 'that feel', as I'm sure you did too.
>>36019305
Enjoy your virginity.
>>36018481
> tfw no gf
> implying it's not > tfw no bf
Lets be real here.
>>36023659
yeah this is how it is with me.
>>36018481
so false I can't even
I have a long term GF but I cant stop thinking about being able to do better, but at the same time its easy and convenient.
its a horrible thing to say but its true.
shes not bad, I just feel like I deserve better.
I am more motivated, driven and enthusiastic about life in general, she doesnt challenge me to be better, she just enables me to do what I want, which is great in its own way, but there is something missing.
I guess I know inside that I would be just fine without her, and that doesnt bother me.
Should being in actuall love feel like the other person completes you?
>>36023701
> tfw no bf
