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Here is another reminder that if you do roids and don't
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Here is another reminder that if you do roids and don't pull any money from your 'aesthetics' you're literally a fucking idiot!

>Bodybuilder who ate 10,000 calories a day and drank eight cans of energy drink died of cancer caused by years of steroid abuse

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3360511/Bodybuilder-ate-10-000-calories-day-drank-eight-cans-energy-drink-died-liver-cancer-caused-years-steroid-abuse.html
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>not doing sterons until you're swole then stop taking sterons so you're natty and swole
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>>35258616
I think it was the 8 cans of energy drinks a day that accelerated the growth of his cancer, steriods have never been proven to cause cancer of death. Anyone who drinks "energy"drinks deserves to die a painful long death.
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In the comments section

>We need to detox regularly, people ... we eat chemicals, use chemicals on our body, breath in pollution, etc. Juice of half a lemon in a glass of water. Keeps your system clean and in good shape.


Wow, I never realised that half a lemon can protect you the side effects of steroids.
If only Zyzz knew!
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He probably built all this size from being on ORALS 365 days a year & never coming off.
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>>35258605
>caused by years of steroid abuse
Yeah, as if they can even know that.
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>>35258616
>>not doing sterons until you're swole then stop taking sterons so you're natty and swole
>stop taking sterons so you're natty and swole
>you're natty and swole
B8
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>>35258605

Here's a reminder that anecdotal extreme abusers who abuse massive doses or Oral hepatoxic steroids for a decade do NOT represent the use of the typical gym rat roider who looks just a bit bigger than they can natty, on 500mg of injectable test cyp - which has been medically tested and studied and shown NOT to have serious health effects in most healthy adult men.

As in anything extreme abuse leads to major health issues.

It is NOT a proper causevand effect to say: use roids = liver cancer in a 1:1 ratio with users of any dose or type of AAS.
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>>35258671
haha, you're such a comedian anon! :D
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>>35258689
>>35258695
>>35258708

> this is how roidlets rationalize their roid use
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>>35258671
I hate when people use the word "detox" or "flush away those toxins"

Exactly what toxins are they even fucking talking about? They never specify but I guess only drinking water for a week or putting lemon in your drink somehow gets rid of them
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>>35258695
They do know that. Oral steroids are known to be hepatoxic. If a guy who drank a bottle of vodka daily for 20yrs came into the ER with liver cancer, they could make the same assumption.
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>>35258736
Detoxing is a myth. Anybody who says you need to 'detox' is ignorant.
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>>35258761

my sister went on a detox lmao
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>>35258735
Natural lifting elevates liver values, also. At least I'm healthier than a keto faggot
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>>35258769
Your sister is a woman, it's expected to believe this kind of shit.
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>>35258671

Zyzz was running a cocktail of TREN & stimulatns, AND would also use DNP from time to time.

Tren can dramatically increase blood pressure, so can stimulants like coke, which he DID openly use.

Then you sit in a sauna with mile high BP, and you get a sudden drop in BP = heart attack.

Some lemon for "detox" won't do shit to protect from THAT.

Now if a guy is on something like 500mg test and 400 Deca weekly, and proviron at 50mg daily.... I highly doubt they will run into any issues other than some acne & oily skin.

Will they look as good as zyzz? No. But they will still be a measure stronger and bigger than they would naturally. Also much safer.
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>>35258792
wait so zyzz wasn't natty?
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>>35258797

b8
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>>35258792

> implying zyzz used steroids
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>>35258708
what about test supression?
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>>35258735

Good job addressing the points.

When you got no facts Ad-Hom is the solution right?
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>Mr Wharmby found the energy from seven to eight cans of energy drink while eating every two hours.
>Mr Wharmby would grab a McDonalds for a snack, and a pizza on the way home - which he would eat while his girlfriend of five years cooked dinner.

>But then he became unwell five-and-a-half years ago, and doctors discovered a growth. He was offered chemotherapy and a liver transplant, but he decided to turn both down in favour of natural remedies.
>He said: 'I refused it from day one. The main reason why I chose to do natural instead of artificial was because I wanted to live. I didn't want to die.' However, that meant he needed to completely rethink his diet, which was full of 'acidic foods' - which he believed helped cancers thrive.

>And for a year, it was successful: Mr Wharmby's tumour disappeared. 'But I got complacent,' he admitted. 'The old lifestyle crept in again.'

What a fucking idiot, prolly was doing tons of orals only for years straight nonstop while chugging down junkfood and energy drinks all day.
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>>35258801
no it was a genuine question
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>>35258671
>detox

Swig down a cup of white vinegar, boom detox done.
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>>35258605
>implying Energy Drinks are bad

What exactly is it in Energy Drinks that are bad? Which ones should I avoid? I take a small 250ml Sugar Free Cheapo Aldi one before each gym session
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>>35258815
>He was offered chemotherapy and a liver transplant, but he decided to turn both down in favour of natural remedies.
What a mong.
What are the natural remedies in this case though? Are they like herbal 'medicines'?
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>>35258810

If they come off, instead of cruising on a TRT dose year round, then yes natural test IS supressed.

That can be quickly corrected with the modern SERMS.

1 month on Torimiphene at 30 to 60mg daily for 4 weeks is STRONGER than nolva&clomid combined, with less sides thsn either, AND raises HDL cholesterol.

Some will chose to stay on the 100-200mg trt dose indefinitely... but if you're worried about eventually getting dependent I got bad news for you.

Your natty test will most likely be low due to age eventually anyway. Around age 35 - 40 low T is common, even in guys who are not ovrrweight and exercise
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>>35258605
how did such an ugly retard get a qt like that?
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>>35258812

> this is what roidlets tell themselves
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God, every fucking retard who eats a bunch of unhealthy crap just to 'bulk' can die painfully

Its defying the whole purpose of working out; to be fit and healthy. If you do it for looks only and are willing to throw away your health for it, youre a shallow lowlife fuccboi

Good that he died, he deserved it
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IT SAYS LIVER CANCER, WHICH MEANS THIS RETARD PROBABLY PERMABLASTED ORALS /thread
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>>35258895
They're both average looking.
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>>35258904

So someone pointd out the one tricky pony act

>it attempt same trick again
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>>35258863
Its not that energy drinks are bad per se, rather drinking too many of them, leading to a shit-ton of caffeine in the system.
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>>35258841
I'm not one that would know much about this kind of thing, but I know that in his later part of his life he started roiding.
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>>35258928
>caffeine in the system
So Coffee is bad too? Shit I just got a Nespresso machine and 'capping' many a day... fuck
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>>35258920
not him but the girl is really cute

I think it's the face
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>>35258922

> this is how roidlets express their anger
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>>35258954
She's seems really average to me, but hey if you like white bread or vanilla then she's perfect for you.
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>>35258605
>10,000 calories a day and drank eight cans of energy drink
yeah it was the fucking steroids that killed him fegget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>being thismuch of a fucking pleb
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>>35258987
I guess you prefer the other bunch?
Chocolate fudge butter crunch?
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>>35258928
>>35258863
>>35258938
Coffee is just coffee and nothing more than caffeine. studies show getting a certain amount of caffeine per day lowers your risk of cancer.

It's just all the other shit added into energy drinks that is most likely bad for you.

I seriously can drink about 2 of those in a day before i got a whopping headache and stomachache. I don't know how this motherfucker drank 8 per day consistently.
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>>35259004

No, I like cookies and cream though.
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>>35259005
the caffeine is giving you the headache and stomach ache
caffeine inlarge doses causes IBS like symptoms
largedoses is different to each person
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>>35259017
I know that. How much caffeine is in 8 energy drinks though? I don't know how ANYONE can handle that much in a day without feeling like shit.
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>>35258605
THANK MR SKELTAL
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>>35259026
Depends how big the energy drinks are. You can get 250ml ones, or 600ml ones. We need figures. Also non-sugar or full fat?
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>>35259026
>I don't know how ANYONE can handle that much in a day
he couldnt thats why hes dead

pretty sure most energy drinks have between 100 and 200 mg per can
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>>35258605
Coroner said that his use of steroids was a 'direct cause' of his death

I'm guessing you don't have to be a Medical Doctor be be a Coroner?
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>>35259050
I had 2g of pure caffeine a couple of weeks ago by accident. Read the scales wrong in a hurry. I was shaking all over the place. It took hours for it to go away
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>>35259052
Coroners know more than MDs in regards to post-mortem
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>>35259041
>Also non-sugar or full fat?
i hate this phrase its fucking retarded
you can't get full fat pop or energy drinks or whatever
you mean sugar free or full sugar

you keep mistaking fat for carbs your gonna have a bad time
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>>35258863
sugar mostly can have unfavorable ramifications when abused chronically. artificial sweeteners can too have detrimental effects on your gut bacteria, which can too increase your chances of becoming a lazy fat fuck with depressions. either way energy drinks aren't that bad (compared to all the other shit normal people consume throughout the day).
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>>35259066
fuck man the overdose amount is 5g i hope you stayed off it for a while to make sure it wasnt building up in your system
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>>35259081
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>>35259092
yeah I didn't touch coffee or energy drinks until recently. I'd highly recommend pre-made tablets instead of the powder.
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>>35258928
The thing is, having shit-ton of caffeine in the system may be either bad, good or nothing at all.

It depends on your tolerance. I've been drinking 10+ cups of coffee per day and yet I have a low blood pressure.
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>>35259143
>>35259066

Jeeezzzz, just keep it to 1 or 2 cups of coffee a day. Everything is better in moderation
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>>35259139
i've heard the powders are really easy to overdose on thanks for the tip anon if i ever take pure caffeine i'll make sure to pre measure and make tablets
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>>35258987
Basic is best
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>>35258605
Creatine abuse us awful thing.
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>>35258938
Coffee makes your heart work harder. Too much of it is obv bad.

Then again so it too much anything so fug it.
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>>35259184
>Everything is better in moderation
so why don't you stick to 1pl8 squat then? EVERYTHING in moderation
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>>35258928
It's not caffeine, it's all the other shit in those things that is bad
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>>35258797
>>35258806
kek
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>>35259616
Its mostly taurine, a bunch of B vitamins, and caffeine.

Too much b-12 or b-6 can possibly fuck with your nervous system, but thats not usually what gets people. The reason they are considered so bad is because college students drink like 3 redbulls a day instead of water so they are sleep deprived, dehydrated, and still overworking their organs.

I mean even stuff like running is "hard" on your heard but its still good for it. Energy drinks are fine if you have one before a workout or something; they are bad if you drink 3 cans while studying for a final at 4am.
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>>35258761
Its fixing problems with metabolism.
People who have been living unhealthily for years get them. You can detox, as in fix your metabolic problems, but it takes much more than some alkaline water and activated almonds
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Why some people do steroids just so they can get natty physique with red skin and more veins??
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>>35259810
>and more veins
Reason 1

Also its fucking faster. What a stupid question
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>>35259754
How do you activate the almonds?
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>>35259871
You stop being so new
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I'm 19, been training since 15, put on a solid 25kg (55lbs) since then. I've been researching steroids since 17 but with no active intent on using. Until recently. I have an image in my head of who I want to be in 5 years, and that person isn't natural.
I know how it is a permanent decision to start using steroids, and how if used early on in life it will cause irreversible effects on the body, but I feel like I should risk what kind of life I may have for the life I want at the age of 21.

How harmful would it be to run a cycle of test-e for 12 weeks, realistically, at the age of 21?

I have a doctor in the family that is already administering steroids to a couple of family members so i'd be in safe hands in terms of blood work and injections. I realise its a permanent decision and I'm young and stupid, however, I feel as if I should live while I'm young and not continue on thinking 'I should have this when I was...'.
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>>35258605
This mans experience is a glimpse into the future of the users that inhabit /steroid general/

May God pray for their souls.
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>>35259893
Don't ask us to justify a decision you have already made.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17530941

If steroids kill why would the government jab 8 young healthy men in the ass with them?
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I like how many roiders are in this thread ( >>35258999 , >>35258664 , >>35259081 ,>>35258928, >>35259722 ) are rushing to blame Red Bulls over steroid abuse and bad eating habits when even the coroner >>35259052
>said that his use of steroids was a 'direct cause' of his death
due to fucking liver cancer.

I wish cheaters stayed in their /fraud/ containment thread and stopped giving misleading advices to inexperienced kids on an Australian smuggling kangaroos imageboard

>>35258605
He never married the qt who gave him a daughter and who helped him in a losing cancer battle for more than 5 years - sad.

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016080/Former-bodybuilder-liver-cancer-given-just-three-weeks-live-says-ll-beat-disease-healthy-eating.html
He used to eat over 400g of beef "as a snack" and 15 eggs and a fuckload of McShit and an entire pack of bacon and a full chicken everyday - and no veggies at all, potatoes aside - ; pretty sure this raised his cancer risk a lot.
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CONCLUSION: Testosterone enanthate administration in a contraceptive trial produced significant but reversible effects on skin, muscle, liver, lipid metabolism, and hemopoietic functions that varied between population groups.

Out of the 271 men, 24 got gyno. 0 deaths.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8774299
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>>35258605
doctor here. steroids DO cause liver cancer. period.
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>>35260052
>steroids DO cause liver cancer

I believe you, being an MD an all. But would you be able to point to some literature to back up that claim. I looked and couldn't find anything serious.
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>>35258708
Huh? Studies done on patients taking TRT dosages showed a correlation between even TRT levels and increased risk of heart disease. I'm pro-steroids, but let's be real, 500mg/wk of Test Cyp is going to produce levels over 10 times higher than natural, you can't possible expect no serious health effects from that.
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>>35260052
How bad is liver cancer anyway?
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>>35258815
>>35258866
>He was offered chemotherapy and a liver transplant, but he decided to turn both down in favour of natural remedies.

so he Steve Jobs'd himself.
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>>35260035
>24 got gyno

That's worse than death.
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>>35258938
Under 500mg of caffeine a day shouldn't be of harm.
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>>35259893
You should probably research it yourself instead of asking any of the retards here. Normal test-e cycle shouldn't be of much harm at all for a normal healthy male, with a healthy lifestyle and diet someone doing a few test-e cycles here and there in his lifetime should be far healthier than someone who doesn't exercise and eats like shit and gets wasted once a week.
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>>35258689
how can a personal trainer and amateur bodybuilder buy a r8? selling roids?
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>>35260052
>doctor here. ORAL steroids DO cause liver cancer. period.
Fixed it for you
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>>35258863
Just dont drink to many
Like with everything just dont do to many of it
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>>35258689
That's what a lot of steron users in the UK are like, m8. Oral only with no PCT.
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>>35258605
can we realize the fact that millions of people are getting liver cancer. steroids or no steroids

he literally couldve gotten a new liver and a bit of chemo and lived a long prosperous life, instead he was concerned about the acidity of his diet.

he was dumb as fuck and got cancer and died. he also did steroids

'I refused it from day one. The main reason why I chose to do natural instead of artificial was because I wanted to live. I didn't want to die.'
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>>35258605
THANK YOU MR. SKELTAL
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>>35258605
He looks just like the guy from sir's creatine comic.
>M-my gains
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>>35258735
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>>35260052
>>35260128

God here, I killed this faggot because he was just that... a little pussy faggot. I mean come on, look at his hair... and that face. Had to go.
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>>35258605
>eight energy drinks a day
i hope they were sugar free because otherwise that's fucking nasty
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>>35261943
God again,
Forgot to mention that steroids are good, I mean I gave them to you so have at em.
Oh and another thing, I fucked up on Zyzz, lost a bet with my son and it was either him or Blaha. Sorry guys, my bad I was drunk . Lesson learned, never race you son across a lake when he knows how to walk on water.
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>>35260023
B8
1500mg of caffeine will fucking kill you
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>>35262327
caffeine does not cause liver cancer - actually there are studies that link an increased coffee intake with protecting effects against liver and colon cancer. Ex multis, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1742-7843.2008.00231.x/full
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who here /organic/ energy drink masterrace?

Fuck your Monster energy drink with the cool name and graphics, make a smart choice and go for picrelated.
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>>35262528
This is the organic energy drink, even comes with a side kick version for those manlets that follow you around.
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>>35260904

Personal loan.
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>>35262528

If you drink energy drinks in any capacity, you really should save time and kill yourself.
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Energy drinks are worse than roids you faglords
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>>35263275
But you're wrong, retard. >>35262482
>>35260023
>>35260052
>>35262104
http://jcp.bmj.com/content/41/4/441.short
http://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-200232020-00001
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378427405001700
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673672926499
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Fuck cancer..
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>>35258605
probably wasn't the roids. He was probably consuming 300g of animal protein a day. Everyone knows now meat causes cancer...wake up go vegan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr-qkiBWKgE
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>>35263621
>He was probably consuming 300g of animal protein a day.
Much, much more. >>35260023
>He used to eat over 400g of beef "as a snack" and 15 eggs and a fuckload of McShit and an entire pack of bacon and a full chicken everyday - and no veggies at all, potatoes aside - ; pretty sure this raised his cancer risk a lot.
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>>35263621
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>>35263699
it's funny how i've been a /fit/izen for all these years and i've witnessed all the fat shaming threads which focuses mainly on how delusional fat people are. Now I realise you guys are just like the fatties...delusional.
>bla bla bla meat doesn't cause cancer...muh genetics caused them, there is no dietary link to cancer.

Lol pathetic betas. It's so easy to hate on vegans just jump on the bandwagon loser.
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>>35263782
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>>35258605
>drank eight cans of energy drink
>a day
Truly a controlled experiment on steroid abuse, if ever there was one.
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>>35258605
Jesus fucking christ. When did the dailymail.co.uk become an appropriate reference? I see their shit being posted everywhere and people just eat it up. This is only slightly better than citing The National Enquirer.
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>>35258664

I'm honestly fucking perplexed at you typing this.

What's the mechanic in energy drinks that assists in cell replication?

And anabolic steroids are MOST DEFINITELY pro-tumour growth because they are pro-cell growth: that's the SAME THING.
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>>35258605
and even he had a qt to snuggle with until the last moments

WHAT DID DO TO DESERVE THIS LIFE, TAKE IT BACK
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>>35263867

> actually trying to argue sugar, caffeine, and b-vitamins would cause cancer over steroids aka cell growth cocktail.

yeah be careful man, apparently taking a b-vitamin and drinking some coffee with sugar in it will give you cancer.

???
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>>35259052
From my knowledge you don't need to go to medical school, but there's a complete other thing you need to complete first that's much more relevant. Knowing how to treat diseases is pretty pointless if they're dead.
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You rarely hear about steroid nightmare stories but there are thousands of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJOJtjXVpRw

The roiders on /fit/ are fine at the moment because they're all in their 20s. Eventually it catches up, you can't abuse your body forever...
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>>35264791

Literally just type "are coroners medical doctors" into google.

It's 2015, we don't need to guess shit.

> Coroners can be elected or appointed. Some are also sheriffs or funeral home directors. But many coroners aren't doctors. There are also medical examiners, who usually are medical doctors but may not be forensic pathologists trained in death investigation
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>>35258605
i mean, 8 energy drinks a day can't be good for the liver either
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>>35264191
You sound like someone who is not fun to hang out with
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>>35265697

what the fuck is this claim

explain what exactly is hepatotoxic in an energy drink

this set is perpetuated ad nauseum on this forum yet no one has a fucking clue about what is actually toxic in energy drinks.

lets go through what an energy drink is:

1. B-Vitamins
2. Caffeine
3. Taurine (Amino Acid)
4. Sugar (If it's not low-carb)

Some have Guarana aka Caffeine.

Some have ginseng aka a root plant extract.

what the fuck is hepatotoxic there??

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

stop parroting shit you read on /fit/ and actually do your own fucking research.
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>>35265755

Why, cause I corrected somebody who is literally spouting shit with clearly no idea about what they're talking about?

Liver cancer caused by ENERGY DRINKS?

Steroids aren't pro-tumour?

Both 100% false.

Sorry I didn't let you live w/ the falsehood you fucking ingrate.
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>>35265454
>The roiders on /fit/ are fine at the moment because they're all in their 20s. Eventually it catches up, you can't abuse your body forever...
This. The raiders are literally the same as HAES whales. Sure you may not have health issues at this very moment, but you damn sure will.
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>>35265776
I just think people who drink that shit deserve to die, along with vegans, liberals and over the top fags.
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>>35265797
Please provide source (besides you brain) for your claims
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>>35265806
It's okay, most people could argue the death of uneducated faggots like yourself would be socially beneficial, as well.
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>>35258815
And for a year it was successful?
What do they mean by that?
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>>35265826
not him, but i'm a biochemistry major. what you typed was one of the stupidest thing's i've ever read. pls go
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>>35265838
He should have died way earlier.

>>35265826
Not him, but read the thread. >>35263401
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>>35265806

underrated post
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>>35260128
It's in most textbooks on the GI system or pathology. Don't have an easy source to give you. It's just something you learn in med school. The specific tumor it causes it hepatocellular adenoma. Google "anabolic steroids hepatocellular adenoma" and you'll get tons of stuff.
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>>35265755
Your mom hangs out a lot with my cock though
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>>35265826

You need a source that an ANABOLIC STEROID is PRO-TUMOUR.

If something causes cell proliferation it is PRO-TUMOUR by fucking definition.

Socas L, Zumbado M, Perez-Luzardo O, et al; Hepatocellular adenomas associated with anabolic androgenic steroid abuse in bodybuilders: a report of two cases and a review of the literature. Br J Sports Med. 2005 May;39(5):e27.

Development of Hepatocellular Carcinoma Associated with Anabolic Androgenic Steroid Abuse in a Young Bodybuilder: A Case Report
Aline Hardt,1 Dirk Stippel,2 Margarete Odenthal,1 Arnulf H. Hölscher,2 Hans-Peter Dienes,1 and Uta Drebber1

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/generalinformationaboutcarcinogens/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens

Adverse effects of anabolic steroids in athletes: A constant threat C. Maravelias, A. Dona, M. Stefanidou, , C. Spiliopoulou

Adverse Effects of Anabolic Steroids
Robert C. Hickson, Karen L. Ball, Michael T. Falduto
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>>35265836
anyone who drinks energy drinks is a 16 year old edgy kid. I literally cringe when i see little manlets walk around drinking them
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>>35265806
>I don't like things and people who don't hold my same beliefs shall die

Congratulations, as evil Anoonymoouse member of this rogue Filipino community you've just level'd up to the rank of "Euphoric Tippin' Trump"
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>>35264191

Sugar

There's not a of correlation between preservatives and cancer, but it is known that high sugar diets accelerate cancer growth in people who already have cancer.

This guy most likely had a genetic predisposition to cancer, and his shitty diet caused him to have bad insulin sensitivity.

The steroid usage either compounded it or hid how bad it actually was. Impossible to say which.
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>>35265870
>>35265873
>>35265888
>>35265890
>>35265909
>>35265936

>proof

Fact :Niggers, spics & chinks do not drink energy drinks.

Fact : only dumbass white fags get cancer

See the pattern yet?
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>>35265924
Only acceptable one is redbull or green monster.
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>>35265966
>This guy most likely had a genetic predisposition to cancer
>It's genetics
You're like the fatties you're blaming. Did you read what he ate? >>35260023
>He used to eat over 400g of beef "as a snack" and 15 eggs and a fuckload of McShit and an entire pack of bacon and a full chicken everyday - and no veggies at all, potatoes aside -
Sure, the steroid abuse and the diet played no role in a cancer in a fucking thirty-years-something yo, noooooooooooo

Please die
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>>35265966

Sugar obviously plays a role in cell replication, that doesn't mean it causes cancer.
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>>35265998
Good or bad, it's always in your genetics for the cause.
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>>35263782
lol fuck you richard, virgin piece of shit
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>>35265909
I've know 100's of people who use anabolics, none ever got cancer. Some used for 30 + years.

I don't know anyone who drinks energy drinks, prefer not to hang around those types. So can't speak on their behalf.
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>>35265966
>Sugar
Not every energy drink contains sugar. Most energy drinks have no sugar versions. Inb4 artificial sweeteners cause liver cancer or accelerate cancer growth
>>35266047
>genetics
>liver cancer at 33~34
Sure, if you dive in a pool filled with uranium you'll likely die of cancer - but it's genetics I guess. Please STFU
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>>35266084

Wow, that refutes biomedicine.

I know a tonne of smokers and none of them have died from lung cancer either.

I guess all that talk about cigarettes giving you cancer was really blown out of proportion, right?

Stick to the manual labour job and let other people do the thinking bro.
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>>35266084
I know 100's of people who smoked, none ever got cancer. Some used for 30 + years.

I don't know anyone who injects shit into their veins so he can die in a thai sauna in his early 20s, prefer not to hang around those types. So can't speak on their behalf.
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>Drinking energy drinks
>Not being a 14 year old who wears rockstar snapbacks and chunky white dc skate shoes

Choose 1 u fukn nerds lmao
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>>35266139
Wew lad someone's mad.
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>>35258605
>dying in bed after years long struggle
>gf come in to snap a selfie
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>>35266151

>Makes valid point about losers than drink shitty energy drinks
>UR SO MAD

strong projecting lmao
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>>35258664
steroids are known to accelerate cancer greatly
it even came up in an episode of House
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>>35266085
> not genetics

Cause god knows Angelina Jolie just lopped off those magnificent tits just in case she decided to roid up
>>35266085
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>>35266208
Thank god Roger Ebert is here
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>>35266127
He died from hypertension, dehydration and coolness
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>>35258605
>She told the inquest: 'Being big was what everyone knew Dean for.'

And he died as a skinny DYEL, how ironic
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>>35266248
>yfw diet Coke
not gonna make it
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>>35266248
Fucking Mcdonalds...

Case solved
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>>35266127

>injects shit in his veins

Lol have fun with that embolus of oil straight to the heart...fucking dumbass
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>>35258605
Eggs cause cancer? Fuck, then what could I use for bulking? I'm allergic to PB&J and I was told bulking with milk is a meme
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>>35265870
When you take and pass organic synthesis you may contribute
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>>35266248
>starting off with an entire pack of bacon

lol?
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>>35258866
in korean traditional medicine (which is a lot less hippie crap then other alternative methods), there is a herb used to combat cancer. that works (there is scientific proof for that. fyi, aspirin is basically treebark), but not as well as western medicine. however, the herbs have basically no sideeffects, so they are often offered to older people who do not want to inject chemicals and shit blood.

this herb therapy is basically known only in korea though. I have no idea what that faggot did. Probably shoved limes up his ass or something.
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>>35258605
Fuck he's from my town rochdale
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>>35266327
Why not? Gets his sodium and fats right off the hop with some protein
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>>35258605
Wonder what gym he went I'm going back from uni on Friday to use the puregym there
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>>35266353
>What could possibly go wrong with an entire pack of kevin norwood bacon right at breakfast
I dunno, maybe... cancer?
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That's his girlfriend I have mutual friends with her
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>>35266302
Just do GOSAD you stupid fuck

I'll happily donate my semen directly into your oesophagus
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>>35266239
but would that level of dehydration have been able to kill him if his blood pressure weren't already elevated through his drug use? Would the hypertension have existed without the drug use? That's the relevant question
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>>35258605
Fuck his girlfriend looks young and hot for being in her 30's in that right pic
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>>35266368
already got that from reading your shit posts m8
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left pic: /fraud/ masterrace
right pic: natty limit
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>>35266386
>#liveitlikedean
>telling people to roid, to eat nothing but shit and to refuse decent threatment so you can die a dyel
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>>35266386
>1987, almost 88
That guy was 39 so that's something something something 11-12 years difference
and he fucked up
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>>35266405
Hypertension could have been caused by 20 or more conditions inherent or reactionary.

Maybe it was stress related as he was always trying to be too cool and was under a lot of pressure
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tl; dr, We all posting in a troll post

"till, I was worried, because there was a bothersome unresolved paradox to explain. For decades, the storyline was that lowering testosterone levels caused prostate cancer to shrink away and raising testosterone levels caused it grow. The second part of this story was now seriously in doubt, yet the first part was obviously correct. In my own practice, I had seen the beneficial effects of lowering testosterone levels many times over in men with advanced prostate cancer. This part of Dr. Huggins’s work was indisputable. But if lowering testosterone levels caused these cancers to shrink, how was it possible that raising testosterone levels did not cause the cancers to grow? This was a paradox that needed to be solved if physicians were to accept the possibility that testosterone therapy may not increase the risk of prostate cancer.
The Paradox Resolved

The answer turns out to be not all that complicated. All the reports of testosterone causing rapid growth of prostate cancer occurred in men who already had extremely low testosterone levels, due to castration or estrogen treatment. Once we get beyond the near-castrate range, it is hard to find any evidence that changes in T concentrations matter at all to prostate cancer. This is essentially what Drs. Fowler and Whitmore described in their 1981 article when they suggested that “near maximal” growth of prostate cancer is provided by naturally occurring T concentrations."
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>>35266461
>a 20 yo dies of stress in sauna
So if not genetics, it's stress. So much pressure aight
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>>35266455
Lucky fucking guy desu
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>>35259005
There's like 100 things in coffee besides caffeine you fucking retard. Caffeine is just the main active ingredient
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Come on guys, we all know use and abuse are two completely different things. Moderation is the key. Too many steroids will kill you, too much bacon will kill you, too much water will kill you, too much aspirin will kill you, too many bananas will kill you.

Love everything just don't marry it.
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read the whole article...this fucking guy actually beat cancer the first time it creeped up on him by living healthy then went back to his old 10k diet and training ...wtf.
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>>35259052
>Coroner
>>35259068
>Coroners know more than MDs in regards to post-mortem
>>35265476
>Literally just type "are coroners medical doctors"
Or, you know, just type the name of the coroner.
>http://www.maxwellgillott.com/about-us/our-people/lhashmi-profile.aspx
>Lisa trained as a Registered General Nurse at the Mid-Essex Hospitals NHS Trust, qualifying in 1990. She was subsequently awarded a Diploma in Nursing in 1991.
>Postgraduate Diplomas in Law and Legal Practice.
>In September 2009, Lisa was appointed as an Assistant Deputy Coroner within the Manchester (North) jurisdiction

TL;DR coroner is a nurse + hospital legal
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>>35267351
He eliminated acidic foods aka all meats. "Mr Wharmby's tumour disappeared."
He re-introduced all that meat&eggs&so on. He died.
Take note.
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>>35267622
Yeah because look at all those lions, tigers, sharks, crocodiles coming diwn with cancer....
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>>35267651
Breaking news: lions, tigers, sharks and crocodiles aren't humans.
Why don't you eat shit? After all, if it's good for dung beetles, it must good for you, right?
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>>35267673
Dung beetles don't eat dung they roll it into balls. So the cause is being human then, not red meat?
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>>35267694

Or being a human that's trying to be a lion.

Also dung beetles do eat dung, that's why they roll it into balls and move it around.
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>>35267694
>Dung beetles don't eat dung they roll it into balls
Nigga, pls.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dung_beetle
>Dung beetles are beetles that feed partly or exclusively on dung.

>So the cause is being human then, not red meat?
Serious question: do you have a brain tumour?
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>>35267740
>brain tumor

No I don't drink energy drinks.
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>>35266386
Sells juice plus ....
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>>35267790
>energy drinks cause tumour
It's curious, it seems you have some serious brain damage anyway. Maybe it's a tumour induced by meat and/or steroids? >>35265909
>>35265776
>>35263401
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>>35258815
>juice your tits off
>decline treatment in favor of natural remedies
jesus christ what a retard
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>>35267803

Juice plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-cancer
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>>35267651
>>35267673

you guys know most animals can get cancer too right?
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>>35267864
Nah, I flushed my meat tumor about 15 minutes ago.
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>>35267918
From gluten and corn. And energy drinks.
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>>35267918
Sure, chances are that if you feed a lion with dung, a cow with beef and a dung beetle with grass they gonna reap all the benefits of a varied diet
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>>35267945
Just don't feed the lion this faggot>>35267864, the lion will definitely come down with ass cancer.
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>>35267922
>I flushed my meat tumor
I'm pretty sure there's still meat up your ass, and it may or may not be a tumour
Not here to judge your sexual preferences tho
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If he would just eaten more oranges & tomatoes he would still be alive.
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>>35260904
g4p
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>>35266452
Lmfao. This story is depressing and I can't understand the guys logic before and throughout his illness, but this comment killed me.

Your body can only absorb so much at a time? Am I right? Why was he pounding all those energy drinks and mcdicks? His arteries were probably caked with shit. had he survived this cancer, he would have surely died from something else (heart attack) in the near future.
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>>35258605
Guy on the right looks like the yellow vegan guy
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??? are there studies
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>>35258605
>Drinking anything but water

Should've known better.
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