Any tips for someone joining the air force?
Also militaryfag general.
Don't
Lol don't join the Chairforce
>>35219683
>not joining the Corps.
Typical Airforce pussy
>>35219704
>>35219723
Why? What branch are you?
>>35219704
>>35219723
>>35219728
Airforce has the highest mental requirements, but lowest physical requirements-- ultimately AF and Navy have the best overall benefits, pay, and career advancement opportunities. It's all about what's best suited for you.
Ignore all the faggots who whine about the Airforce's low physical requirements-- they probably didn't pass the ASVAB high enough to make the cut, and the ASVAB isn't even that hard to score a perfect on.
>>35219728
You're not even in the corps yourself?
>>35219683
Don't listen to those other retards.
I'm an Army officer so i've got it pretty good but man, the Air Force guys are living the life.
>way better gyms
>actually get treated decently
>way more jobs that translate directly to the civilian world
>the only actually attractive females i've ever seen in uniform
I saw this one E-5 that I couldn't believe was in the military once, she was that attractive.
>>35219746
Sitting in 29 doing fuck nothing
>>35219743
You think YOU can score a perfect on the asvab? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>35219811
Not him, but I practically flunked out of High School, and scored in the mid 90's on it. If a retard like me can score that high, a perfect score should be easy.
>>35219743
If you score lower than an 90 on the ASVAB you are retarded
>>35219823
This.
93 composite
136 GT
Air Force is for faggots and old dudes.
Join the Corps while you're young and you might have a chance of not being a sissy forever.
- A Marine Sgt
>>35219728
>>35219762
Marine 0-1 reporting in.
Our lives suck man. I regret not going another branch everyday but we are undoubtedly, the coolest and sexiest.
It comes at the price of it being a bitch for career advancement and shittier everything.
It seems like everybody just becomes an 0-4 in the other branches but they are legit celebrities in the Marines.
It's meme-tastic, but the 300 workout is really good to get in shape for the PFT.
>>35219683
Allahu Ackbar
>>35219856
Does it at least get you an in with the ladies?
>>35219872
None of the ones worth dating/sticking your dick in.
>>35219877
I take it you have to brush off wanna-be dependopotamii?
>>35219842
>>35219856
I know a girl who was in the Marines, she's weird as hell.
>>35219890
Those, or you're dodging women so stupid you're amazed they can breathe. Also, the kind of women attracted to a marine will without a doubt cheat on you the second you're deployed. Some won't even wait that long.
whats the point of joining the airforce if not to be a pilot?
>>35219856
Shut the fuck up boot
>>35219856
>>35219877
Shut up. I'll tell you the same thing I told my commo, stop being such a boot. It's not college anymore, everything sucks. If you're feeling down, just go lift at Edson range and watch people get hazed for their country.
If you can't pull sluts as a Marine you're doing something wrong.
Semper Fi
>>35219940
>boot
Shut the fuck up leg.
>>35219937
So you can be military FEDEX.
Something like 80% of Airforce jobs are involving supply/transport.
They are the delivery boys.
>>35219683
Boot camp is a joke. If you can't pass boot camp, congrats you're a pussy.
>>35219956
Just ignore that boot bitch butter bar. I guess his degree in women studies didn't prepare him for the corps. Nigga probably doesn't even have 3 ribbons yet and already complaint about how hard it is MAKING GUNNY PAY RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE AND GETTING A FREE APARTMENT just to sit in an office
>>35219964
such a waste you amerifags have, my dream was to become a military pilot, only reason im not is cuz my airforce sucks so civil pilot is the way
Future sailor reporting in, leaving in April for great lakes. Gonna be doing IT
I'm ex-Air Force.
If you've got the balls for it, I'd go Marines. Me, I don't have that hi-test attitude. I respect Marines though and so does every other male worth having the respect of.
If you're not looking for a rite of manhood to pass and are wondering which branch to go into, I can definitely recommend the Air Force. The quarters, facilities and benefits are all superior to the other branches excepting maybe the Navy and then it's a tie. The tie-breaker is the Air Force doesn't maroon you on a ship for half a year at a time.
If you're looking to slay poon, Marines in my experience don't actually fare that well overseas. I was stationed in Japan on an Army base and Marines would get bussed in on the weekends for entertainment from what must have been some hellhole up in the mountains, because this Army base sucked compared to the neighboring Navy and Air Force bases. Anyhoo, the locals all avoided Marines because they reeked of desperation. The Marines also had a terrible rep because some black grunts raped children in Okinawa. The other branches had neither of these deficiencies.
>>35219811
>thinking it's hard to score a perfect on that ASVAB
Holy fuck how retarded are you?
I was a soldier. It was OK but try to pick an MOS that carries over to the civilian world.
>>35219956
I do just fine with the ladies. Problem is that I did better before The Corps because time is limited in TBS and its not like I can just bring girls back to base.
>>35219989
>MAKING GUNNY PAY RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE AND GETTING A FREE APARTMENT
The pay is god awful regardless. I dont think Ill escape the middle class until flag officer which I dont plan to do.
DO NOT JOIN TO GET LAID.
And yup, I certainly miss college.
>>35219901
I only know female officers and can confirm, not many chicks make it through OCS but the ones who do are way to over moto. They are all weird and bitchy.
>>35219940
Yea Ive got a boot to shove up your ass, now where is my salute lance corporal?
>>35220247
>Implying I'd ever Salute some boot who doesn't even have a fleet ribbon
>implying I wouldn't just look the other way, put whatever I'm carrying in my right hand, or even just flat out tell you to fuck off boot
>implying your scrawny ass would do anything other than go crying to daddy
All this autism
>>35220275
>Implying Im not 6'4 and 225 lbs
>Implying you enlisted waterdog wouldnt get jealous at the sight of me
well, when it comes to joining the military, heh... my point goes back to superior mindset. I'm actually a trained... which means I think in terms of violence of action when it comes to physical conflict resolution. When engaging an enemy you utilized unrestrained violence, speed and aggression to overpower them, dominate the conflict and completely destroy your opponent to ensure victory. You use any and every means at your disposal to ensure dominance, no ha,lf measures nothing held in reserve. If you are not trained you absolutely do not want to put yourself into a conflict against someone with that mindset. They will survive, you will not.
Heh, good luck kid.
>>35220316
Implying I'm not 6'4 240lbs and make tape and have 2 deployments. Step your game up "sir" some salty Lance might embarrass your bitch ass your first day in the fleet
>>35220327
The fact you even have a cellphone at your little "basic school" and are arguing with some junior marine is a testament to how pathetic the officer corps truly is
>>35220345
Implying we arent extreme rarities and obviously we are evenly matched in a dick measuring contest.
>>35220376
TBS is 6 months long and its more like really shitty college to kill people. We are all officers by then and technically arent babies anymore. We dont get anything at OCS though which blows major cock.
>tfw being trained to use 400k helmet and most technologically advanced piece of military equipment in the world and the highest tech piece we are allowed for 10 weeks is a compass.
Air force gets whatever they want however.
TBS isnt our boot. OCS is our boot which is disguised as an interview.
did you guys in military already know military jargon and shit before you joined? and how the system worked? that shit seems pretty intimidating to people who dont know. do people who know jack shit about the military before going in, generally pass and do well in their jobs? does boot camp teach you all that stuff about ranks, and stuff?
>>35220569
or do the people who didnt study on their own, generally fail out of boot camp?
>>35219683
Are you proud of becoming a worthless welfare queen?
>>35220569
You'll be fine man. I literally walked into the recruiters like "what up man I need a job." And that was it. No previous research no family in the military, nothing. Didn't know ranks or history or ribbons or nothing and I didn't give a fuck either. Scored a 97 on the Asvab and picked it all up as I went along. The military's easy peazy dude
>>35220596
thanks, ive been thinking about it but not sure what branch, because im not really sure if i want to stay in IT or do something more physical. is the first step choosing a branch, or a job MOS?
>>35220625
That's really a pretty open Question and depends entirely on you man. For example if you really want X Mos field and the Marines and army don't have it but the airforce and navy do than that narrows it down for you to those 2 branches. Now on the flip side say for some odd reason you just really really really wanna be a marine. Then of course your Mos options are going to be limited to the small selection of marine mos. And then you have to test out to see what you qualify for and that may or may not narrow it down even further and lastly you have to see what's available at that given time. Research some mos that your interested in and see who's offering them. If it's gonna be techy your best bet is airforce or navy. Definitely not Marines though they're really just all about the whole Gung ho lifestyle even if you are a tech
>>35220685
thanks. i have college degree and job currently, i mostly want to join before i get too old to serve. i wouldnt mind leaving tech field, i should just talk to a recruiter. im just nervous because i dont know anything about military and recruiters obviously are trying to sell you on their branch of military
>>35219683
From right to left:
>Mmmm, don't really wanna be here
>Urgh, I really don't wanna be here
>Here's the start of the end of my life
>Why do I have to stand behind a black guy
>SHIT YEAH THIS IS THE START OF MY CAREER IM GONNA DO EVERYTHING RIGHT
>Oh shut the fuck up
>I've got an itch
>I look exactly the same as that other guy.
>>35220765
U could go officer with your degree man there's literally no reason not to. You'll be making like triple the pay and have to put with half the bullshit. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise literally 100 percent of my friends with degrees who went enlisted because they had something to prove or had a chip on their shoulders or whatever instantly regret it. GO OFFICER dude trust me you're quality of life, job selection, pay, and everything else will be exponentially better than going enlisted route
Just don't be a whiny boot bitch like that other guy up there. Know your role and shut your mouth while pocketing ridiculous amounts of money for doing nothing your first few years until you have some experience or a deployment. Let your staff and NCOs run the show they know what they're doing
>>35219811
>not scoring a perfect on the ASVAB
It's not really that hard, breh.
>>35219683
desu senpai they all stress college educated but the army or marines will work you the hardest. source: army
>>35220796
Different guy here but can you start at a higher rank or as an officer if you have a lot of college credit?
I'm a junior in uni but can't finish. Thinking about joining.
>>35220839
most officer candidacies are done based on degree not credits
how are the canadian forces
should I even bother
>>35220839
You can go in as an E-3 with enough college credit, which is basically just a pay raise, but still. Plus if you have any kind of intelligence you'll be able to pick up at least a bachelor's by the time you EAS.
>>35220376
spoken like a true boot...
source: O-3 in the Navy
>not joining the air force 'cos its gay lul fags'
>not joining the branch which gives free flight training and results in civilian jobs paying 6 figures
but at least marines are cool right, hoorah?
>>35221006
>and results in civilian jobs paying 6 figures
How
>>35221018
Many major international airlines prefer military pilots due to experience and large log hours that most civ candidates just wouldn't be able to compare to
Not saying there'd be an instant transition from military to flying for Virgin, but the option would be there for you to earn 100-200k
>>35219704
dude join the AF. I'm an army officer with one of the best MOS's (arguably) and sometimes wish i went AF. Best bases, girls, benefits.
don't fall for the grunt meme
>>35221328
I'd rather avoid girls in the military or coworkers.
All of these faggots... toppest of kek
There is an Asian I just saw at the gym on post... he had an old school weight belt, was DYEL as fuck, deadlifting 95 pounds and hissed/struggled so obnoxiously that anyone with common sense would kek at the top of their dumb milfag 99 asvab lungs...
that is everyone in this thread... don't come to 4 chan for advice on joining the fucking military.
>>35221328
Ayyy i'm the other Army officer who posted in this thread. What are you?
>2015
>not being 25A masterrace
>>35219683
Chair Force fag here. What helped me when I joined was getting into the habit of running first thing in the morning. And if you do not cry when someone tells you that you are wrong, you will make it.
Alos 2f0x1 master afsc. Enjoy easy deployments, free money, and a piss poor easy job.
I want to become an Army Ranger, how do I get started?
>>35221534
Type your question into Google and find Ft. Benning's official advice. Follow what they have to say.
>dying for Israel
top kek
>>35219762
^this
12 year and counting in the Army and the best two weeks of it was getting stuck at an Air Force base in Iraq.
>>35221571
I am but it be helpful to also get advice here aswell, any tips?
>>35219683
Branch to join in order of good to bad, rated by personal opinion of quality of life.
Navy
Air Force
Army
ISIS
Marines
>>35221354
25A is a good gig, would definitely be one of my top options.
I'm 67J
>>35221342
this is very valid
>>35219683
Just don't be fat and you'll do fine.
Source: just graduated from Canadian Bmq last Thursday. Any other combat engineers here?
I'm an E-6 in the Navy. Happily going back to sea duty after three years as an RDC (drill instructor equivalent on the Navy side). Ask me anything about our boot camp if your interested in joining.
35 Quebec Armyfag reporting in.
Five more months and I transfer out of this enlistment period in to a civvy job that pays $135k/yr.
Feels good; AMA if you have any questions about the position and I'll answer as best I can with what little I'm allowed to say.
>>35221669
Why are you on 4chan
>>35220569
I literally went to boot camp while knowing nothing. I had never even marched. They gave me a book and told me to study it when I first signed my papers with the recruiter but I was a shithead then and never looked at it. As far as the navy is concerned if you aren't retarded you get plenty of time in boot camp to learn that shit.
>>35221687
Good question family. I'm still fairly young (26) but no real excuse to be on here other than sheer boredom.
ok so I just started college and will likely get a degree in economics or something. I am planning on training hard for the next 4 years to get in peak physical condition. What would be the best military career for me assuming I have a degree and a high asvab and a perfect PFT score. I am an excellent swimmer also. I don't really have much regard for my life so I was thinking EOD might be cool
got any computer hacking jobs in the navy or air force?
i'm pretty good, but idk if i'd be allowed to do that stuff, or have to follow some weird regulations
>>35221729
>>35221678 <--me
Have you looked in to ROTC? Pretty good path to becoming an officer and the pay is decent. You won't have to fuck around with EOD shit unless that's really what you want to do.
If you factor in high asvab scores, a degree, all that shit, look in to the position I'm in; it's enlisted and not officer, but the civilian prospects are fucking great.
I decided to go 35Q with the Army rather than go to college, and in the process I became more physically active, more disciplined, earned an (albeit pretty worthless) free associates degree, finished my bachelors by taking a couple classes a semester during my enlisted time, and have a better prospect coming out now than I would have out of school.
>5 years of experience
>Bachelors + Associates (they're separate, the Associate's is unrelated and basically handed to you in training)
>27y/o and I'll be making more than most college grads when they're 40+
>>35220796
>pocketing ridiculous amounts of money for doing nothing
man, are you serious? you think 35k is a ridiculous amount of money?
i know it's a service, but that pay is pretty dang low for someone with a degree who could get about 90k in a civilian job.
>>35221758
Armyfag here, air force and navy are both great for that type of thing if you want to be more mobile and have the potential to be deployed on a ship (in the navy's case.)
If you're looking for something state-side that's essentially an office job for the military (sort of, loose comparison) look at 35Q in the Army. Navy and Air Force definitely have better quality of life and equipment, though. Not sure of the Air Force equivalent for 35Q but navy is CTN MOS.
35Q = Cryptologic Network Warfare Specialist
>>35221775
Yeah but there is only army ROTC and everyone says army is shitty as fuark
>>35221801
Can't speak from experience for infantry, EOD, Armor positions or anything like that, my job is pretty comfy anyway, but the Army definitely isn't bad.
It's "worse" than Navy / Air Force but still isn't awful unless you choose some god awful MOS.
The Marines, on the other hand...
>>35221354
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>>35221785
Im studying through the defence force in aus and get 55k a year just to study then as an aeronautical engineer starting salary is 94k which goes up to 110 after 3 years. All the while my accommodation is paid for, my food is paid for, i get free medical and 18% superannuation for retirement and ill get a military pension. At the rate im saving ill leave the defence force with 600k+ saved. Say what you like about the people in the military but its a sweet deal man
>>35221534
Go to a recruiter and tell them you want a RASP contract. If they say no tell them to fuck off then and they'll call you back in like a day telling you it opened up, Youd go to benning for infantry OSUT then airborne then do RASP then go to ranger bat then go to ranger school
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>>35221793
i want to wreck the enemy's shit, via a cyber medium. what job do i need? 35Q?
I guess what I'm torn about is just feeling like I'll lose my freedom.
Also, I don't really like difficult bosses.
Seems like I might miss my cushy civilian life..
>>35221846
How's your course going? And what's the failure/backclass rate like for the other students you're with?
I'm an avionics tech and looking at commissioning in the next couple of years.
>>35221678
GiB info
Literally any info on why this is possible and if it is repeatable or you are an outlier?
>>35221915
Go 35Q and enjoy training on Corry Station getting made fun of by Navy faggots who have it just as bad/worse than you.
>>35222017
so does anybody in the military have any idea how to hack, or do they just ddos each other and open ssh sessions on each other's computers?
>>35221801
Army ROTC reporting.
Not too bad, just hope I don't get fucked over with my MOS.
>>35222039
As someone outside of a rate/MOS that actually hacks: I have no idea, and I shouldn't. As a civilian I always assumed they ran basic shit like SQL injections and spoofing credentials via pre-programmed applications. The more important thing they learn is how to protect what they do and how they do it, which is hugely enforced.
Example: if you so much as hint that you attempted or intended to hack or access a machine that isn't yours, pretty much any branch is gonna strip your clearance and job from you.
>>35222064
what do they think about outside experience? like you might know some stuff they aren't teaching in their course, can you use it? can you teach others? would it be considered disobeying orders or breaking rank or something? how flexible, and innovative is the service, i guess?
i know the commanders want their units to be highly effective so they can report good news up the chain.
in all honesty i just want to be able to do an exceptional job, but if i'm not being used to my potential, it would be a really dissatisfying experience, to be honest.
>>35222046
It's called branching for officers. What are you, an MS1?
>>35222132
MS2 actually.
Everyone in the battalion refers to it as MOS choice.
Anyhow it's not that bad of a time, just kinda blows waking up early.
>>35222119
There is operating procedure for everything. Obviously hacking or any kinda of offensive crypto is different from running some gigline or firing a weapons system, but you also have to remember that those operating procedures exist for a reason. Shit was probably written by someone who understands the situation a lot more and put in a context that you won't be totally privy to. Most of the time the stuff that you're doing as a lower to mid level enlisted is just cookie cutter work. EVEN crypto and cyber work. The high skill stuff either gets contracted out to civilians or is handled by specialized officers or warrant officers.
I mean, if you're talking fo-real fo-real cyber combat and concepts and you are a fan of what America does, I'd say fuck it. So long as you can handle the culture and shitty day-to-day aspects of it, the resume building and benefits are pretty fucking endless for the tech and cyber field. Feel free to ask more questions.
>>35219683
>>35219704
Don't do it.
>>35222155
Cool, fellow ms2 here. And that's odd. What branch was your PMS?
And in comparing ROTC to the nco life, we have it pretty easy at the moment.
>>35221801
its not bad, 2-4years of rotc and you are an officer. If wanna do some hooah ass shit you can go for a branch detail and spend 4 years in infantry, go to ranger school, and airborne. Then when you hit CPT you'll go do something technical for the rest of your career like Signal or Military Intel.
>>35222169
He was aviation, but has done some other stuff. A real high-speed guy.
Wish I was an ms3 already.
Sick of having nothing to do during labs/formation.
>>35219683
well i have narcolepsy and made it to the last 3 weeks of marine boot with no meds before they kicked me out. so your fine OP, literally anyone can do any basic training so long as you dont quit.
>>35219683
if youre going to do it, dont go maintenance or security forces. ive been in for about 2 years now, f-16 crew chief, its a cool job but you will work 12 hours a day and a lot of weekends
>>35222156
Shit was probably written by someone who understands the situation a lot more and put in a context that you won't be totally privy to.
fully understand that.
>Most of the time the stuff that you're doing as a lower to mid level enlisted is just cookie cutter work. EVEN crypto and cyber work. The high skill stuff either gets contracted out to civilians or is handled by specialized officers or warrant officers.
well, i'm about to get a master's but i have about 10 years of professional experience (and been doing it much longer than that in my own time lol), i'm approaching the age cutoff. i think it would be a cool, and satisfying job if i were, for example, gaining covert tactical presence into enemy systems, or designing weaponised components for spies and other combat personnel. but if i'm just clicking "fire" on the "LOIC"...
>>35221618
As a Marine I find this accurate
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If you actually want to see combat.
Air Force ROTC AS300. If you wanna do Officer shit and be a badass try for STO,CRO, or ALO. Hell even OSI still does deployments but they mainly are like detectives on base.
Enlisted side try for TACP or PJ
>>35220869
please respond
>>35221618
>Branch to join in order of good to bad, rated by personal opinion of quality of life.
>Navy above Air Force
Good one m8.
Try living aboard a ship.
Havnt looked to much Ito this thread yet just got off work
19 years old just got my job a few weeks ago
1U031
Remote piloted aircraft sensor operator
Anybody know anything about this job I know it is with drones
What's a good MOS that carries over into civilian life for someone with a biology degree
>>35221669
assuming you score high enough on the required entrance tests, what requirements are there to be a navy pilot/navigator? do you need a certain college degree or will any one do?
>>35221785
Relative to what your average enlisted fag makes right out out of bootcamp. Plus officers rate BAH too. Vs young unmarried pfc smuckatelli making 500 a check after taxes
>>35220869
Canadian soldiers are extremely well trained. We don't have "special forces" per se because with our smaller population we have no logistical need to specialize our soldiers to such a degree. Our infantry are held to at least the same standards as American and British special forces
Basically yes our military is very worth it our deficiencies are not in training but in numbers and in overall spending on ships/jets/tanks/tech ect.
>>35221100
To expand on that.
Most airline companies require a large number of hours to apply and there are no real entry positions to get that experience.
For example to be a helicopter pilot for most companies requires upwards of 2000 hours of flight time. The only way to get those hours (if you're a civvy or already own your own chopper) is to rent a chopper which costs a lot of money. A lot.
>>35219728
>>35219723
>>35219704
>Not joining the best branch.
You guys didn't score high enough on the ASVAB.
Joining the military? Prepare your anus
>>35223345
>if you're a civvy and don't own your own chopper...
from what you read in 4chan army threads, the us army is filled to the brim with self absorbed self righteous cum guzzling faggots. holy shit, i mean,
"Our lives suck man. I regret not going another branch everyday but we are undoubtedly, the coolest and sexiest."
christ, how can one person be so deluded?
>>35221669
Fagget fuck 1st class fcsn reporting
>>35221669
Applying to navy OCS in January for a aviator slot. Any words of advice for OCS ?
>>35222607
CBRN
>>35219856
Go police call the motor pool butter bar boot
>>35220247
God damn you probably bitch more than a pfc
