>there's people on /fit/ who talk shit about SS but can't deadlift 4pl8s
fuuark
mirin hard
I can't do any exercise that puts strain on the lower back. Sucks but gotta do what you gotta do. Deadlifts aren't the be all end all.
Know who can't deadlift 4pl8s? This guy
Know who looks infinitely better than you after less than a year on a brosplit? This guy
Congratulations on your completely useless strength though, at least you can impress other autistic, fat powerlifters
>>35079187
I always read "HOMO" on his underwear, like it's the inevitable final realization at the end of the /fit/ transformation
>>35079187
Thats just his genetics. He would look like that even if he did SS or any other routine
>>35079214
Typical SS victim rationalizing his wasted time.
>I didn't get those results doing my shitty, low volume, heavily imbalanced strength routine so everyone else with results is just naturally blessed or on steroids!
Fuck off with your fat logic
>>35079187
What is this supposed to prove? He did a cut and now you can see his abs? He didn't have that much fat to lose in the first place
>>35079187
>Dat tortured, glassy-eyed stare
Does he just naturally have that expression or has he seen some shit?
>>35079244
Why are you so mean towards me? I didn't even do SS. Do you need a hug or something ?
>>35079263
>a cut
lmao
he was a total beginner. he started on a brosplit as a fatty and now looks better than you ever will
>>35079187
He might have gained no muscle at all, he just lost fat.
That kid's tiny and useless.
>>35079410
post pics
>>35079419
SS did wonders for me, fat loss is for idiots who want to look good but don't care about true strength.
>>35078990
If you're training for strength you should honestly be able to DL 5PLAET
>deadlifting 3x bw is easy for a beginner
ok
>>35079491
They are always lying and cant even Deadlift 2 times body weight
>>35079491
>deadlifting 4pl8 is 3x bw
<---- This guy did SS then texas method for a year. 6ft 196 lbs 24.4 percent bodyfat. He had a 440 lb deadlift at the time.
http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=22054
Typical SS results. Adds barely any lean mass, just gets you CNS gains. Unless you build a hypertrophy base first/do lots of accessories these are the expected results.
>>35079313
>brosplit
>not lifting for strength and aesthetics
why do you fools always think that you have to compromise one for the other?
>>35079719
Then cut down to 172 lbs... Wow look how much of a base SS and TM built him.
>>35079719
>440 dl
>beginner program
>>35079719
>>35079735
Bullshit.
We had a thread on /fit/ a year ago where two identical twins showed their progress. One of them did a brosplit, the other did SS.
They looked almost exactly the same, people couldn't even find out which one of them did which routine.
>>35079719
>>35079735
fucking lmao
>>35079782
Nope. That thread didn't happen. Go to the /fit/ archive and link it.
>>35079145
>>35079168
https://youtu.be/BuzeyFIYMSM?t=1m5s
220kg
>>35079719
>24.4bf%
>done SS
pick done. do SS properly and you'll end up 15-20bf%
but i agree, SS isn't optimal for aesthetics. that's just a shit example
>>35079787
>this guy pisses dust and outlifts 90+% of /fit/
>>35079802
he's dling almost 5 plates, why is that a bad example besides you grasping at straws?
it's a perfect example to show that strength is not aesthetics and will never be.
>>35079787
You won't get big without being strong. You won't get strong(er) without getting big(ger).
Is SS a meme or not? It's recommended on the sticky, but I don't want to lift to become some bearmode powerlifter. I want the aesthetics so I can be Zyzz.
>>35079890
retard
>>35080187
All the science indicates that total hypertrophy comes from total volume (sets*reps*weight). In SS you increase the volume on every muscle every session.
Sure a lot of the 'gains' are made in technique and motor unit recruitment but wouldn't you rather have that than not have it?
Truth is, nobody looks good after 6-12 months of natty lifting. Muscle growth is a very slow process; you'd be lucky to get half a pound a week with average genetics.
As far as 'aesthetics' are concerned, leanness, lighting and muscle insertions are far more important than actual mass.
>>35080217
...what point are you even arguing?
>>35080187
Yeah bro, watch out so you don't become a bearmode powerlifter in six months.
Don't want to get too big, right?
>>35079187
He can didilift 4pl8ts and he trained for 4 years with another shit brosplit before he went serious for more 11 months.
/fit/ turned this guy to meme just like SS were turned to meme, because you guys are full retarded
>>35079187
>Know who can't deadlift 4pl8s?
not you
>Know who looks infinitely better than you after less than a year on a brosplit?
not you
why don't you post your own pic/routine fatboy?
>>35079782
yeah man I was there for that, they were 2 asian guys. The split guy had a little bit less leg definition, but overall was pretty much identical lol
>>35080261
You could read the thread or just do any kind of research into how hypertrophy actually works.
>>35080291
>Deadlift: 253 lbs (115kg)
Nope. Noooope. Nothing in your post is true.
>>35080296
I've been lifting for 3 years so it's not really relevant in a SS discussion thread, but here. Brosplit all the way. Also you just double negatived the deadlift thing, so you're saying I can in fact deadlift 4pl8s you literal mongoloid
>>35080368
All his PR were for work sets, also 4x8x115kg Deadlift. Did you even read his thread on reddit? Who are beeing desilusional here are you, fuckboy.
>>35080368
Hypertrophy happens when you have a high number of sets to or close to failure. You can train heavy and get hypertrophy, you can train the more typical 'bodybuilder' rep ranges and get hypertrophy. You can't do 50 rep sets of babyweight and get big, and at a certain point you can't get stronger without adding muscle.
Know who can DL 4 pl8s? This guy
Know who looks better than that fatso on your pic? This guy.
No homo though.
I do strength training. almost no hypotrophy, and tons of cardio.
Also;
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u mad /fit/?
>>35080460
Bullshit, you and this guy you quoted are retards. /fit/ is full of retards, specially bodybuilders. The meathead meme is true, most of you lift to conpensate the lack of inteligence and skill to fit socially. I'm done with so much false information here, fuck you all.
>>35080442
I did, and even if we're being incredibly generous and saying 253lbs is 70% (probably closer to 80%) of his RM, that still means he's not even CLOSE to a 4 plates 1RM. There's also a difference between a theoretical 1RM and actually going for it, especially for someone who has never trained for strength ever.
>>35080479
>almost no hypotrophy
It shows.
>>35080509
>73 kg is limit for welterweight
Not my fault bruh. im 181 cm
>>35080508
What about what I said was bullshit? All the research points towards what I just said, check out Greg Nuckols' site if you want actual links.
>>35080460
>You can train heavy and get hypertrophy, you can train the more typical 'bodybuilder' rep ranges and get hypertrophy.
While that is true, it is significantly harder to get as much volume from low rep sets than it is from "bodybuilder rep ranges." Even if you manage to do 5x5 with your heavy ass sets, you're still nowhere near the volume of a typical brosplit... and SS is 3x5.
Obviously your strength will gradually increase when you train for hypertrophy, the opposite is not true (and that strength gain will be much slower). Someone training for only strength can remain DYEL looking forever.
>>35080508
retard
>using straps
>using chalk
>using mixed grip
4 plate is pretty fucking tough without cheating
>>35080569
Okay but starting off with SS just makes sense. Why do anything but moderate/low volume and moderate/high intensity when you can literally just add more weight next time and the time after that? And past that level, pretty much nobody in powerlifting or weightlifting skips out on bodybuilding/accessories. Like I said >>35079890 here, once you're in the intermediate zone, you'll need more training volume overall and accessories matter a little more.
>>35080627
Because adding more weight does nothing for hypertrophy which is what 99% of all new lifters want. The "strength base" shit is a meme spread because /fit/ is a shithole.
People start lifting and get all their information on /fit/, then they repeat it to new lifters and then we end up with these people who have never done any research into anything parroting dumb /fit/ memes
Its like you faggots think SS and SL or whatever is a routine that will actively add fat to your body, as if its not the diet that dictates that. Do you know how fucking uneducated and dumb you are?
Side note: Deadlifts useless? Really? Lifting for grills or not is irrelevant, deadlifts are one of the best exercises there are, adds mass to your entire fucking body, especially the back. And IIRC Grills love a thick powerful back. Why not add that ontop of your otherwise gay brosplit senpai?
Jesus fuck, you guys argue about the dumbest shit possible
Why not just linear PPL/UL? Start with 3x5 for strength lifts. Finish off with 3 more exercises for pushing, pulling, legs depending on the day 4x8-12 for aesthetics, then like one or two exercises like curls or dips. Sure, strength progress is a bit slower than SS, but who really cares of it takes you a few more months to reach 1/2/3/4? You'll look a hell of a lot better earlier.
>>35080687
Now THAT I disagree with. You can't just rep the same weight forever and not add weigh and expect to make further size gains.
>>35080687
>Lifting heavy weights for high reps doesnt add muscle mass
To lift heavy weight, you need a strong base.
Get out.
>>35080725
That's what Candito's routine is basically, and it's fine.
>>35079787
>21 years ago
Fitgramps is definitely dead by now
>>35079786
Ok.
http://4chandata.org/fit/SS-vs-Brosplit-again-a762622
Would post the desustorage link but it's offline atm.
>>35080722
>arguing against shit no one is saying
??? what is this strawmanning
>>35080726
Reading comprehension.
I'm replying to this >>35080627
The act of adding weight to your lift every week on SS does NOTHING for mass. You're still doing shit volume at a grand total of 15 reps. There is zero reason to do SS first when you can do high volume immediately.
>>35080732
But you don't need to lift heavy weight, that's what "you don't need a strength base" means you mongoloid
>>35080368
Nice lordosis faggot
>>35080816
How do you explain the people who managed to put on some size doing SS you double nigger?
>>35080816
You cant lift 0.5pl8 bench for fucking ever idiot
>>35080368
gj, you look like me a year ago.
>>35080855
That's easy, they don't exist ;^)
>>35080860
No fucking shit you retard, you can still increase weight on a brosplit as needed. You start doing your sets to 8 and when you get to 12 you increase the weight. You keep your high volume and you still lift to failure for your hypertrophy needs. The point is that you don't need to waste your time doing SS to get a "strength base" first like you idiots keep spouting because you saw another idiot on /fit/ say it when you started lifting.
>>35080864
I'm sure you won't post pics though, right?
>>35080756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiEJHPzsmvI
>>35079303
the 'ch0n breeds hate breh
>>35080899
You literally said you don't need to add weight and that the weight being moved is irrelevant. Fuck you, come back when you've been lifting for five years and not eighteen months.
>>35080816
>grand total of 15 reps
On my last day of SS, here was my squat set including warmups:
1x5x45
1x5x135
1x5x185
1x5x225
1x5x275
1x5x315
1x3x365
1x1x370 (With Belt)
3x5x385 (With Belt)
Since you're 12, ask a parent to help you count how many reps that is.
>>35080931
durr what is context I'm fucking retarded - you
post pics.
>>35080687
>adding more weight does nothing for hypertrophy
>people believe this is true
>people who actually lift weights actually somehow believe this is true
>>35080946
Congratulations, every routine ever does warmup sets.
>>35080977
You're an actual moron.
Why are you so insecure about being as strong as the average 13 year old girl?
>>35080977
>grand total of 15 reps
>except all the other ones
>>35078990
This is just proof that SS is a shit tier meme routine for anyone who wants to look good.
>>35080946
>Since you're 12, ask a parent to help you count how many reps that is.
That's a bit young to know how to count, isn't it?
>>35080995
>>35079787
>WOOOOAH
>*whistles*
>WOOOOOAH
>*whistles*
That's gonna be my gym grunt from now on.
>>35080993
Newsflash, when people compare volume from routine to routine, you
1) don't count warmup sets!
2) if you do, you don't count them for one routine and not for the other one!
you're still very far behind in volume on SS. why are you moving goalposts for no reason? mad you look like a fat powerlifter or something?
>>35080991
If you're doing a high volume routine properly, you're still adding significant amounts of weight over time and becoming much stronger than most people.
>>35080910
Thank you
>>35081080
He died 3 years ago, came back to life and kept on lifting.
>>35081060
Intensity is a key component of volume you fucking dunce
>>35081056
>when people
citation needed
>you're still very far behind in volume on SS
H-hey girls, guess how many reps of 135 I can bench?
>>35080946
You don't actually do 34 fucking warm up reps do you? top fucking kek
>>35081130
If you want a fair comparison then you either include warm up sets or don't, for all routines.
>>35081130
>he thinks anyone cares about how much he benches outside of fat powerlifters
this is the kind of shit people who did SS have to tell themselves
>>35079187
I'm going with he's a US Marine. Just from the look, I think he may have served, either that or he's just a 2edgy faggot. USMC are notorious for their crash diets for overweight (him) entrants. They give you some drink that makes you shit your guts out for like 6 weeks, you drop shit loads of weight
>>35081170
Why are you lifting for other people? Do you have something to prove?
>>35081056
>le fat powerlifter maymay
>>35080479
>some holocaust survivors reported seeing a sasquatch lurking at night within the gates of auschwitz
>>35081056
>mad you look like a fat powerlifter or something?
>>35081173
He's not.
>>35081189
But you brought up showing off your bench numbers first.
>>35081225
I already posted my pic in this thread, will you? (no)
>>35081241
>But you brought up showing off your bench numbers first.
Link?
>>35081258
>>35081130
>H-hey girls, guess how many reps of 135 I can bench?
>>35078990
When you guys say stuff like this do you mean for reps or total?
>>35081309
Generally people mean your 1RM unless reps are explicitly mentioned.
>>35081365
I'm sorry I don't speak anime faggotry, can you repeat in normal language?
>>35078990
The entropy is real. Any time now.
>>35081421
1RM = 1 Rep max
ahhh yes, the classic "SS is a meme routine" meme... very nice.
>>35081584
One of my favorites t.b.h.
>>35081584
>people keep saying it's not a meme
>no one can actually say why
>no one can actually show any half decent results from doing SS
>the best anyone can do is "b-but it's only 6 months, nobody can get any kind of noticeable change in 6 months"
typical SS delusion. it's really sad.
>>35081862
I agree, you ain't gonna be jacked after 6 months, but you should NOT still be skinnyfat.
Pic related, my progress on SS
2 week break now, had some shit in my life, starting TM tomorrow.
>>35082104
height?
>>35082104
i remember seeing this post a month or two ago.
care to update it? kind of curious.
>>35081862
>he grew 4 inches in that short of time.
Okay. Get fucked, Nigger
>>35082104
Your bulge looks great.
No homo
>>35080368
Nice lordosis,faggot
>>35082502
nigga on right pics he weighs 167 with those sick proportions
you do the math
(inb he claims anything over 5ft8)
>>35082526
it's called posture
>>35082104
>A perfectly good twink ruined
>>35078990
>falling for the SS meme
>>35082526
lmao you're retarded
>>35082526
>>35082694
whoa bro he got shorter between october and november!
>>35082104
how are your shoulders so big but so weak in pic #6
>>35080479
You literally came out of no where and just post the same pic of your weird torso, why do you trip
>>35082694
lets see you now. have you plateaued after your noob gains?
>>35082502
6ft/183cm
>>35082517
I'll update it soon
>>35082544
Thanks anon
>>35082621
Pic related
>>35082631
Tfw wish I were gay
>>35082725
Forward lean and lighting
>>35082809
>pic related
>as if the focus now won't be his ass
>>35082833
plz no bully
>>35079787
so many memes. preinternet nonetheless
>>35078990
OP you are literally the reason /fit/ died.
>>35080479
plz go
