Who /cuttingafterthanksgiving/ here?
>tfw cutting during thanksgiving
Yes, but using clen and T3.
>>35038361
whats it like being a real life kek?
If you eat so much on a holiday that it actually has an impact on your body composition then you have a legit eating disorder.
>>35038352
im afraid this shit will make me not be able to sleep
>>35038352
Im not giving any thanks though
What's the importance of the OP's picture?
>>35038484
how new
>cutting
>ever
>>35038559
B T F O
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>>35038484
OP has asthma and this medecine helps so he can do more cardio...
lol just kidding, hes gonna intentionally overdose & an here on the drug because hes too fat to stop eating
>>35038436
>Mactard
Don't be a pussy, buy some DNP and poison your body, if you die you'll at least be shredded
I am too senpai
>>35038352
>iktfb
>been perma cutting
>was gonna continue cutting through thanksgiving
>decided fuck it I'm going to drink with my 80 year old grandpa cuz he's not gonna be here one day and I'll miss drinking with him
>gonna eat cleanish tho
>full on cut will continue after thanksgiving
>thanksgiving will be a refeed day with alcohol
>>35038436
>rare and wonderful japanese snacks
>kitkat
>>35038352
>cutting
You mean bulking. Gonna hit the gym that morning and then eat mah gains
>>35039707
What is this kitkat you speak of?
>cutting in winter
Right here. Just shoved an extra large pizza into my face today. Gonna go crazy on tomorrow's meal then I'm cutting until 10%. Wish me luck!
>>35038361
Here's an idea: don't cut for one day.
been cutting for 4 weeks now. gonna take a break from macros for this week and just eat, then im back on the grind come sunday
>>35038352
Cutting seriously for the first time. What are some sups I should buy to help? I see two of you guys have bronkaid, why?
>>35039860
>living in a shithole where it gets cold
>>35039896
Bronkaid contains Ephedrine Hydrochloride which helps with fat loss, and the effect is aided by adding caffeine and people used to also use aspirin on top of that but it's not seen as necessary anymore
The ephedrine acts both as an appetite suppressant and targets the breakdown of brown adipose tissue
If it's your first time cutting the best thing you can do is have access to a food scale and a scale that you can weigh yourself on and make sure both are damn accurate. Weigh yourself everyday, multiple times if you want and adjust your caloric intake accordingly in order to make sure that you keep losing weight as your caloric needs drop as your weight drops.
That shit matters much more than supplements, focus on the basics first
>>35039984
why would you take a bunch of ephedrine and caffeine when all you have to do is not eat so much
>>35040026
Nothing is stopping you from doing both
It's just something extra you can do, not necessary
>>35040026
supress your apetite so you dont feel like shit and can focus your discipline on other things like school, work, relationships, instead of not eating.
if you're a shut-in you wouldn't understand
>>35040039
>>35040043
doesn't it also help maintain muscle mass?
I have a Thanksgiving race tomorrow, so I ate pasta today and will eat a huge meal tomorrow. I ate 3000 kcal today, don't know how much tomorrow but probably a lot. Will continue to permacut after that.
>>35040052
Ephedrine? Nope, nothing about it does anything special to preserve your muscle mass
Lifting heavy while cutting even at the cost of volume is the best way to preserve strength and muscle mass when cutting
>>35038352
>>Be me
>>Both gyms I go to are closed at turkey day
>>24 hour fitness free day passes
>>gonna work up a huge appetite with some hard core cardio!
>>Wish me luck!
>>35040123
I feel like I've seen a study that there is some muscle sparing processes at work when on ECA.
Hey I'm a dumbie, what's the zinc for? I know the EC stack thingie, but i didn't know zinc was good for cutting? Help me, I'm pitiful.
>>35040531
any help?
>>35038352
>bronkaid
That shit fucked my life up so hard. Six months later and I'm still getting back on my feet. Whatever you do, remember that shit is a form of meth and use it responsibly. Fantastic cutting aid when taken properly. Take upwards of 500 mgs a day, bad time.
>>35040701
curious, what happened?
EC'd my way from 160 to 133 and got off of it alright
>>35038352
where you get ephedrine in the us? do they have it on shelves in pharmacies or do you have to ask for it?
>>35040801
ask pharmacist, they will make you sign something, but it is still legal
>>35040828
do they only let you buy so much at a time? do you have to make up some bs as to why you need it?
>>35040845
Just ask for Bronkaid, they will only sell you 2 box a month if i recall
>>35039860
>not microcutting during your 8 months of cold weather bulking.
>not making it.
DNP the day after thanksgiving
>>35040801
Depending on the state, you can only buy a box or two per month.
But to get enough, you have to stock up on them ahead of time, or ask a buddy to buy some for you.
Also, don't just EC stack, ECA it.
>>35041078
Why ECA, i dont think i need the asprin if natty
>>35041078
Does the aspirin really make a difference? I always just EC'd it. Aspirin scares me, dawg.
>>35040357
same, thats why I asked
>>35041091
>>35041121
Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by sustaining elevated cAMP levels.
Science mumbo jumbo, but it's an important part of the stack.
I was weary of aspirin too, but it does help.
I didn't want to take it my first run, because I have asthma, but it doesn't bother my lungs at all.
Also, to ECA properly, you'll want to have the ratio close to E1:C10:A10
>>35039543
>50 mg zinc
RIP
get 20-30, 50 will literally induce toxicity unless you're extremely deficient
>>35040701
500 mgs is 20 pills a day. that's almost 7x the daily dose lol. 3 days a box. My receipts say I can buy 9 grams a month, so 6 boxes. You'd be looking for smurfs to get you more boxes since you'd go through your allotment 18 days.
>>35041091
take fish oil over the aspirin if looking to combat the blood pressure spikes.
>>35041121
cons outweigh pros IMO, can fuck with your blood pressure and even kill you if you're predisposed
talk to your doctor, but EC is safer
or just say fuck it and go DNP
They sell that literally anywhere for like 6 bucks.
>>35041168
I just... where the fuck did you even come up with that? You just making shit up for fun?
http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/zinc/dosing/hrb-20060638
Pic so FUCKING related....
>>35039984
is an EC stack better than prescription phentermine?
Can someone give me insight on caffeine powder?
I bought 500g from myprotein, their website says a dose is 200mg and not to exceed 2 doses daily.
The instructions say the same thing about 150mg dose.
I lift fasted in the morning (BCAA's implied), examine.com says strength improvements happen at 500mg doses.
I'm aware 6-10+ grams can be lethal, and taking too much can make your hands shake and you'd feel like shit.
But I've been increasing it slowly and currently taking 600-800mg in 1h span, still can't get the desired effect of full alertness. I sleep ebough, but muh depression....
Am I just caffeine tolerant and fucking up my heart?
>>35041785
That's roughly equivalent to 6-8 cups of coffee over the course of an hour. Take a tolerance break.
>>35041865
A large black coffee from Costa with an extra espresso shot is 470mg, I think.
More like 2 cups.
How many weeks of no caffeine?
>>35041902
Not very long, just enough to sort of reset. Drop to 100 for a few days, easier than going cold turkey. Just long enough until the withdrawals subside. Varies person to person, something like a week or two probably.
>>35038352
Cutting right up until Christmas Eve, eating like a fucking pig that night, might drink booze; haven't decided yet, then straight back to cut
>>35041477
kek you killed him senpai
>>35041785
coffein is really bad bro, if you take it in the mornining its still in your system in the late night, causing trouble to sleep.
>>35038352
I will b in the next two months. gonna suck
>>35041948
the secret is to stuff your face like a pig and don't eat at night, like you ate only once during the day. Your body won't notice anything, just the usual for it.
Someone expain to me why OP would take Bronkaid?
Als9
>cutting in winter
>>35044067
Caffein stays in your system 8-10 hours. That's why it's important to stay hydrated with it.
>>35044159
The active ingredient is ephedrine
I am, gonna buy DNP tomorrow and do a hard cut for winter break.
hey /fit/ , i'm new in this, and started cutting, red this yesterday and made my research, but.... ephedrine is illegal in my country, caffeine and aspirin it's pretty easy though, there's a substitute for ephedrin? one that is easy to get, not crystal or cocaine, thanks senpai
>>35045410
You don't need any of that unless you're cutting in single digit bodyfat. Just cut calories
clen where brehs?
yoh hcl is fun but I wanna try that there clen
>>35038436
jesus christ, they still have those ads?
>>35038361
>>35039543
Rest in rip
I fucked up pretty bad today brehs. I mean I slaughtered some turkey gains but I also ate 3 pieces of pie and feel like a blob.
I'm pretty sure I'll be feeling like a blob for 3 days after this one. RIP to the lean I had achieved for two months prior to this. Gone.
http://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/shivering-triggers-brown-fat-produce-heat-burn-calories
>hey anon it's freezing why are you just wearing a shirt and sweatpants.
>>35041205
Or say fuck it and do ECA DNP stack like a tank
hehehe silly americans and their bronkaid
>>35048395
>50 8mg pills.
You're getting keked too, m8.
>>35038374
What's t3?
>>35048645
>tfw you realize they cost about $2 per bottle
>>35048645
Wut? I can buy as many bottles as I please o.o
30mg sibutramine and 400mg caffeine daily (split dose) and I litteraly am not hungry in theory I could not eat.
>>35038352
Got my Vyvanse prescription filled and some caffeine pills. Ready for this shit.
How much does bronkaid cost in the states?
>>35044137
I fast throughout the day in my regular so I'll be eating at night, nothing in the day. Although I was considering doing a massive full body workout in the morning finished with cardio then just eating all throughout the day.
I've been cutting since may but I haven't seen alot of family for a couple years and my best friends
So I said fuck it having beer today and tomorrow, had pie and some stuffing
One day won't do perm damage and I'm back off alcohol this Saturday
I've gone from 206 in may to 168 now I can afford one day to eat whatever
>>35049413
When you've cut at about 500cal or more for a little while, a high calorie day every now and then doesn't really effect your weight loss.
I'd link some supporting studies, but I'm lazy.
>>35049368
Don't think you can get it in states anymore but you can get the kissing cousins version Primatene, same shit.
>>35039707
I checked a few local pharmacies and they all said they havent carried bronkaid for years
what do
is this acceptable for cutting
>>35041477
https://www.google.com/search?q=zinc+upper+limit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
protip: you get zinc naturally from your diet
>>35051828
No.
>>35051833
Explain ?
>>35051840
Ass party meme and all the other chemicals they use in those drinks in place of sugar are just as bad for you as sugar. They just allow soda companies to market it as a healthy option to gullible people who "hate the taste of water."
>>35051866
He asked if it was acceptable for cutting, not if they were healthy and the answer to his question is yes as they contain 1 calorie.
>>35051876
And the answer is still no, fatty.
http://time.com/3746047/diet-soda-bad-belly-fat/
>>35039984
>targets the breakdown of brown adipose tissue
Why the fuck would you want that?
>>35051898
Oh hello troll! and just for the record i'm 183cm and 68kg not even close to fat. Diet soda's while not ideal are perfectly fine when it comes to losing weight as all that matters at the end of the day is calories in / calories out.
>>35051926
>183cm and 68kg
Why would anyone take dietary advice from a skeleton? You should switch that soda to regular, Slim.
>>35051944
I like being thin as a choice, and i don't even drink soda at all.
>>35051961
>I like being thin as a choice
You make poor choices
>and i don't even drink soda at all.
Some better than others though.
>>35051961
>I like being thin as a choice
>>35052059
>Some better than others though.
What?
>>35052065
Yeah you know you don't have to lift to be /fit/. Big shocker huh?
Cutting here. Already lost 8 cm on my waist. Gonna stop when I hit 80 cm. 12 to go lads.
>>35052085
>80 cm
Dude that's like 31 inches who are you the fucking hulk ? and i'm sure you're mistaken cm for mm as 80mm is like 3 inches
>>35052097
>31 inches waist
>hulk
?
>>35052097
On second look i thought you said wrists, my bad
>>35052069
>What?
Some of your choices are better than your others.
>Not drinking soda
Good choice
>Wanting to be thin
Poor choice
>>35048395
mad jelly bro
fucking fat people having heart attacks, ruining it for the rest of us
does anyone else get better results from EC than from clen?
both give me a resting heart rate of 85 and light exercise 100+bpm
however I find that I can do 2 weeks of clen at about 120-140mcg per day and still get better results from 30mg eph + 200mg caffeine...
I've tried chinese clen and sopharma with no luck.
got some AS Labs (uk manufacturer) clen ready to try out but not hopeful, maybe I'm just a non-responder.
I was taking 140mcg of clen, 200mg caffeine and like 10-20mg ketotifen every day for 3 weeks and only lost like 2-3lbs but without adjusting diet or program I dropped 8lbs in 2 days on EC... (dymetadrine 30+)
1600 cal diet and 1x anadrol 50
>>35038361
dude..
join the intermittent fasting masterrace.
literally just didn't eat until thanksgiving dinner, then was able to eat until i felt absolutely full.
woke up this morning .2lb lighter than yesterday morning, and i haven't even pooped out all that food yet...
you can absolutely lose weight on thanksgiving, and enjoy a large, satisfying meal.
>>35039707
japanese people have like 600 flavors of kit-kat that you can't find outside of japan
kitto katsu means good luck or someshit in japanese, so kit-kat's name unintentionally resulted it being a thing you buy for your children before they take a big test in school or someshit.
it's pretty well ingrained into their culture already, as i understand it.
