>universally agreed best program for a beginner lifter is SS or Stronglifts
>universally agreed best program for a beginner runner is Couch to 5K
>universally agreed best program for at home cardio is P90X
>universally agreed best program for calisthenics is convict conditioning
>there is no yogi/stretching program
seriously I'd stretch every day if I only knew where to start. how has this gap in the market not been filled
just curiosity m8
You're wrong.
http://phraktured.net/starting-stretching.html
Enjoy.
>>31931318
wot
>>31931309
convict conditioning is trash though
idk i feel like stretching is so dependant on the current flexiblity of the person. yeah, most people sit all day and have tight hamstrings, weak lower back, protruded shoulders etc but it still differs a lot for different people
>>31931309
CC is definitely not the best program for calisthenics. The progressions and volume aren't that great and I've never heard anybody say that its the by-all and end-all of calisthenics programs.
>>31931309
I got a pdf for you OP, where do I upload?
>>31931322
sweet, starting this. thanks
>>31931376
say that to my face in real life and see what happens
>>31931381
oh yeah, what is it? scribd?
Is DDP yoga any good?
>>31931309
Just read the 'Stretch' manga and do the stretches there.
>>31931402
For a better bodyweight program, check out this.
http://antranik.org/bodyweight-training/
>>31931402
I cba signing up to some shit to upload it, search richard hittlemans 28 day yoga, ignore the meditation bullshit and just do the stretches
Make sure to warm up extensively
>>31931428
>>31931435
fucking sweet, thanks anons
>>31931376
>>31931339
what is a good calisthenics routine then ?
How do I into Rugby Mode? HIIT and compound lifting?
>>31931777
PEDs
Lots of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMyQ6-EJGxw
>>31931406
I don't know how I feel about taking fitness advice from a chinese comic book. Mangaka are not known for being athletic.
>>31932369
Just read it for the lesbian shenanigans then
I don't want to cause a heated debate but i'm a beginner working on stronglifts 5x5 and I wanted to know if I can combine this with couch to 5k? I'm overweight at about 25% bf and I wanted to know if I can improve my running aswell as my strength. Goal is not weight loss it's fitness.
>>31932402
That sounds fine. Its unlikely that running will interfere with your lifting.
>>31931322
Starting stretching is good
>want to get flexible
>have been looking for something i could do to meet girls
Why aren't I doing yoga? Why aren't we all doing yoga?
>i won't be able to talk to them anyway
Oh yeah....
>>31932402
You're absolutely fine doing both. Don't kill yourself running fast and it shouldn't really affect your lifting at all.
>>31931309
>>universally agreed best program for calisthenics is convict conditioning
Please stop this.
Google "Overcoming Gravity" or Foundation Christopher Sommer". Both are a million times better than CC.
>stretching program
Stretch series by Christopher Sommer
>>31931322
Meh. I spent months doing this with very little gains. Some of the progressions are retarded too.
>>31931435
When trying to do the rear hand clasp, I'm fine if my right arm is the one above my head, but if i try to do it the other way and feed my right arm underneath, my right shoulder collapses forwards.
I understand that you should try and ease into it and make both sides equal, but it just feels awkward and painful.
Any suggestions?
>>31932629
does it really matter? callisthenics is for hungry skeletons too aspie to muster the courage to go to a gym to lift actual weight
>>31932701
>tfw hungry skeleton too aspie to muster the courage to go to a gym to lift actual weight
>bought a home gym
>>31932701
But people actually get strong doing bodyweights/
>>31932677
iktf, buddy.
SOme people just cannot into symmetry.
>>31931755
Startbodyweight.com
>>31932786
lmao dis nigga
>>31931406
>/fit/ recommended it to me few months ago
>they 30 chapters in they still don't fuck
still pretty good tho
>>31931309
The best Yogi is BoBo
>>31932875
This is outright criminal
>>31931309
*cringes*
>>31932629
>>31932843
>>31932701
>>31932863
>>31932732
What is better between calisthenics and real weight (i mean machine and shit) then ?
>>31933158
who is this mayonnaise maiden?
>>31932863
Go get some gymnastic rings and I'll watch as you fail miserably to do the most basic movements.
If you think bodyweight exercises stop at pushups with shit form then you're literally retarded.
>>31933605
skelly detected
>>31931309
torrent the px90 yoga routine. then do what you want once you know what you're doing.
>>31933605
>implying top level gymnasts aren't blasting 24/7
>>31933605
>implying top level gymnasts have legs
>>31933679
>implying having large muscles benefits them
>>31933696
>implying not having tumors coming out of your legs means you don't have legs
Looks normal and proportional to me. Bodybuilding starts aren't aesthetic.
>>31931309
The reason no one here agrees on a single stretching program is because no one here stretches. If money isn't an issue, Sommer's Stretch series is the best that you can get. It is complete with programming and
If you would like something more cost effective, look into Kit Laughlin's material. It is only a fraction of the cost of Sommer's stretch series and only slightly worse.
If you are a poorfag then just learn how to actually stretch. Stretching doesn't mean leaning down to touch your toes for 30sec a week. You have to work for active and passive flexibility, and this means stretching for 30mins-1hr twice a week once you are capable. Also look into loaded progressive stretching. It is relatively unheard of in many fitness circles but extremely effective.
>>31933233
It's not Dodger, is it?
>>31934119
good post, you seem to know a lot about stretching. please enlighten us
>stretching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEGySOH35-g
>>31932629
Oh look another reddit coach Sommers shill.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with CC. It's a great program that is very focused on strength and muscle building using a small set of compound movements. It has good progressions and good goals.
Fuck off to reddit shill.
>>31933214
Calisthenics are 1000 times better. Machines require no stabilization so they do nothing for your strength.
>>31934247
Reddit hates Sommer. What are you talking about?
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with CC.
Except the rep ranges are completely retarded and there's no mobility work at all.
>that is very focused on strength and muscle building
Both Foundation and Overcoming Gravity will make you much stronger than CC will. Calisthenics bros aren't very strong and muscular compared to guys who train gymnastics.
The sticky has a link to a page which has stretches specifically designed to help squatting.
It's been broken for awhile. What do?
>>31934204
Kit Laughlin has many effective stretching videos on his youtube channel that you can access. https://www.youtube.com/user/KitLaughlin/videos
You might also look into getting his Master the Pancake, etc., series.
Antranik also has valuable information on his website for those who are inexperienced in stretching. Consider the following guides:
http://antranik.org/toe-touching-routine/
http://antranik.org/camel-pose-backbend-tutorial/
http://antranik.org/antraniks-splits-routine/
What you can take away from this is that you should be targeting specific areas of your body with stretching just as you would with strength training. Hamstrings, hip flexors, abductors, etc. And on a side note, I have found, like many others, that shoulder dislocates do wonders for your shoulder mobility. Ideally you would work up to performing the stretch with a slightly loaded bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP8YmmRMz6I
>>31931309
yoga with adrienne dog.
Youtube it shes a qt and you will want to stab her in the face by the end of your first time actually following along with what she does, but if you keep at it for a little while you get better and better.
Do 30 days of yoga challenge on her channel and only move to the next day when you feel good about your form in every position.
>>31934456
Reddit shills overcoming gravity like it's the Bible.
The rep ranges aren't retarded at all if you actually read the book and have even the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about.
>Overcoming gravity will make you stronger
Baseless claim with no sources, fuck off shill.
>>31934259
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>31934478
For increasing squat mobility I would recommend starting by holding deep unweighted squats for time. As your mobility increases you should expect to reach deeper into the stretch.
Depending on what your particular mobility issue is, you might also want to target your hip flexors. Consider performing 'couch stretches.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZX1QMTdAC4
starts around 2:20
For general knee health I also recommend working up to Cossack squats. This will take some time for the generally unmobile, but the benefits should be huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAeU-4QDl1I
I can't offer much more advice on improving ankle flexibility at the moment.
>>31934711
>and have even the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about.
Says the guy defending Convict Conditioning.
That's because just like everything else, it's dependant on what areas you lack mobility.
Use this, it's a good start. Once you know what's happening and why, then you can fix it.
Video yourself doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohz1MSv6leU
>>31934769
Doing high reps with a slow cadence is better for strength than isometrics. How many faggot isometric exercises does overcumming gravities have you doing?
>>31934819
Doing 1 set of something because you're a beginner is completely retarded
40+ reps of something is retarded as well. Deal with it.
>>31934841
LOL ok so you really don't know what you're talking about. I figured.
You've probably never read either book, whereas I've read both, plus the other two CC books, plus the naked warrior, plus raising the bar, plus the other AL Kavadlo book.
>>31934876
Oh and I've also read you are your own gym
Mobility WOD. The old episodes are free and there's a lot of them.
>>31934876
>>31934892
>read CC and other shit books that are a waste of time
yeah I bet you learned something useful from them
>>31934876
>Al Kavadlo
The guy who can't even perform a planche? Why would you ever follow him or his work?
>>31934960
Maybe because I have no desire to do a planche or any other homosexual gymnastics skill.
>>31934980
So you're retarded. That's another issue with CC; literally no straight arm work.
Why even do bodyweight stuff if you're going to ignore the biggest benefit to doing them over weightlifting? You're better off lifting.
>>31934947
I learned how to exercise using calisthenics. CC is hands down the most focused and best program, and that's why I follow it.
>>31931309
>universally agreed best program for a beginner lifter is SS or Stronglifts
This is bait thread. Very well hidden and subtle, but bait nontheless
>>31934997
>CC is hands down the most focused and best program
It's not though. Have you even looked at the Foundation and Handstand series? It's much more comprehensive and focused than CC.
>>31934994
There's no straight arm work because it's about building strength through an entire range of motion, idiot.
>>31935014
>you
>having any idea what you're talking about
CC followers, ladies and gentlemen.
>>31935010
>comprehensive
>focused
Idiot
>>31935029
They're not mutually exclusive. Foundation takes you through everything you'd ever want to be able to do with bodyweight. CC makes you into one of those street calisthenics faggots that thinks he's much stronger than he actually is.
>>31935028
Another ad hominem
Keep it up shill. Your friends at r/bodyweightfitness are proud.
>>31935055
The fact that you don't even know what straight arm strength is shows how retarded you are.
>>31935044
I'll keep doing my CC for one year. At the end of that year I will do the big 4 weight lifts and see how I'm doing.
>>31934715
Well maybe you can give some reason instead of laughing like a kid.
>>31935075
Yeah man, achieve that muscle up and you'll be at the pinnacle of bodyweight training ;^)
>>31935071
I know what it is and I'm telling you that CC builds it, but here you are criticising a book that you've never even read.
>>31935113
Where does it build it? Please specify the pages in the book.
>>31935106
CC doesn't even train muscle ups.
As usual the reddit shills come out of the wood work as soon as calisthenics is brought up. These idiots even advocate doing a full body workout 3 times a week as your split. They are literally that retarded.
Also download Relax Into Stretch by Pavel.
>>31934994
>ignore the biggest benefit to doing them over weightlifting?
which is ?
>>31935123
Fuck off and read the book first you child.
Relax into stretch - Pavel Tsatstouline
>>31931406
>>31932369
Yeah don't do that, they have downright dangerous stretches in there that will fuck up muscle balance especially if you're loose in certain places from sitting at the computer all day already
>>31935141
straight arm strength
planche, iron cross, maltese etc.
Finally what is best CC or OC ?
>>31934598
I'll look at yout sources later when I have some time, but quick question. Since you're suggesting a stretching program done twice a week, can I do that with yoga or something similar?
>>31935305
I think it depends on your goals and what you like to do.
If you want to do gymnastics skills and lots of isometrics, then OC is better.
If you're more interested in something similar to weight lifting and move your body while learning unilateral movements like one arm push up and one arm chin up, then CC is probably for you.
>>31935719
Okay, thanks. But it is really simple, i just want to have more strenght and aesthetics.
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>>31931309
>>universally agreed best program for calisthenics is convict conditioning
won't even bother reading through the rest of the thread
everyone above is likely a complete retard
>>31935730
Either one will probably work then.
>>31935768
Have you read the book?
>>31935693
You can certainly increase your mobility with a yoga program or equivalent. However, you have to make sure that the stretching there is actually going to meet your goals. For someone just trying to transition out of zombie mode into moderate range of motion mode, this should be fine.
But for those who are seriously concerned about becoming flexible, many people make the mistake of stretching only mildly and then wonder why they never see any progress. Ideally, your stretching should be difficult work and it should take up to several days to fully recover. This is how you will make the most consistent progress.
>>31936685
Makes sense. I want to be very flexible, how do I ask the inatructor if the program is a good fit. "Is your program good" isn't going to get me any useful info.
>>31936999
I have never taken a class before myself but I image regardless of the programming that you should make good progress in the beginning. Hopefully there are multiple difficulty levels of classes, or at least some kind of scaling, that you can progress to if you find what they offer to be too easy.
However, if your ultimate goal is to achieve full splits, for example, then it would probably be best to train those specific holds rather than accessory work.
>SS or Stronglifts
go on..
>Couch to 5K
literally just run
>for at home cardio
kek
>P90X
doublekek
>calisthenics
>convict conditioning
calisthenics is by casual by definition, "convict conditioning" sounds kewl though (not really)
>yoga
gay
>>31931309
>universally agreed best program for a beginner lifter is SS or Stronglifts
lol ya. if you want to end up a fat fuck
>>31937821
>calisthenics is by casual by definition
No, you just don't now anything about it.
>>31931428
Anyone find a link to this?
>>31939483
>routines, not diet, cause weight gain
>>31931309
>universally agreed best program for calisthenics is convict conditioning
In bizarro world, maybe.
>universally agreed best program for a beginner lifter is SS or Stronglifts
lol no
>universally agreed best program for a beginner runner is Couch to 5K
maybe
>universally agreed best program for at home cardio is P90X
lol no
>universally agreed best program for calisthenics is convict conditioning
lol no
>there is no yogi/stretching program
Sorry to disappoint you, Mr. Autismo. Looks like you might actually have to form your own opinion on this one.
