Anyone here take Finasteride? Just started a week ago and looking for other anons experiences with it.
been on it for over 2 years. no sides obv cause finasteride sides is a myth
have lost no hair. never will cause its p much scientifically impossible to lose hair on finasteride
hair still thin and shit like it always has been. but hey at least im not bald r-right
How do you notice if your hair is thinning and how much of hair are you supposed to see falling everyday to say - hey, I'm balding?
have a friend who was on it but stopped cause he was having troubles getting it up
get a ht or just shave it
>>10749552
speaking personally i could see my scalp through my hair. small hairs kept falling out too and my scalp was itchy
i cried
luckily tho its 2015 and theres no reason for any man to be a bald alien anymore
>>10749547
Good to hear it worked for you! I'm happy with the current state my hair is in, so as long as I can maintain I will be happy.
>>10749552
Look for the classic signs of MPB (receding hairline and a thinning crown). I personally noticed my hair receding a few months ago and just thought to myself that I would keep an eye on it. Then about 2 months ago I noticed a shit load of shedding of hair in the shower and throughout the day.
>>10749554
>im not gay its just the fin
fuck off
fin did nothing wrong
>>10749556
I've recently started to lose tiny hairs, 15-25 a day approximately. Am I fucked?
>>10749561
Probably not the average person loses 50-100 hairs a day (some even 150). Post your hairline and crown and I will tell if you anything is wrong.
If you are balding just go bald.
Fuck if you are younger than 25 go bald once just to get used to it, so you don't freak out when it happens
>>10749568
Crown from earlier today.
>>10749581
Lawl you're fine bro that little "thin patch" is just part of your hair swirl. How is the hairline?
>>10749561
if the hairs u see r thin, short and shit then youre balding
minituarized hairs is the one sure sign that youre balding, but its cool just l get on fin so u can start worrying about other things instead cause u wont be worrying about going bald again how awesome right :)))
>>10749594
The hairs I have been losing are long and pretty thin am I fucked? I am on Fin.
>>10749577
shut up going bald is a death sentence unless ur top 1% of male attractiveness. not even exaggerating
stop posting this bullshit there is a perfectly safe and effective cure/prevention now and that is fin
>>10749599
no cause ur on fin duh
honestly im not sure anybody has ever lost any hair on fin. at least ive never seen picture evidence of it online
>>10749608
Do you use Rogaine at all anon? I've been tempted to add it but my hairloss is very minor at the moment (most of my friends laugh at me if I bring it up and say "How the fuck are you balding" etc).
>>10749616
yeah x2 a day. im p convinced it does fuck all in terms of hairline maintenance and i wish i had never bothered cause its hassle and it means i cant accurately gauge how much regrowth fin has given me. im just too scared of losing hair to come off now/break the routine
my advice to new baldies would tho would be just use fin and see how it goes(well no doubt)
>>10749633
Okay thank you! How long were you on Fin until you notice a decrease in shedding?
>tfw not losing scalp hair, just receding temples
>just like my granddad
taking finasteride for your hairline seems to be hit or miss, but I tried it anyways
fuck that shit, the anorgasmia was awful and I had terrible mood swings. oh, and it didn't do shit for my hairline
i've accepted my fate that my shit will recede to a degree, but at least i won't have a bald spot
>>10749686
very promptly
no more than a month
how fucked am i? im 20, this is my hairline for the last year
should i get on fin??
>>10749699
finasteride
keeping men in denial since 1998
>>10749709
game over
>>10749709
btw i have no thinning at the crown yet
>>10749709
Brian?
Go do a derm for their opinion, it might be receding or it might just be a "mature" hair line. What is your family history on balding?
>>10749709
wont necessarily recede any further for a long time
the vast majority of young balders diffuse thin. u have great density. hop on fin tho if ur feeling vain and dont wanna take any risks
>>10749709
>should i get on fin??
nah
>>10749722
>Brian?
nope lol
family history is that my dad had a full head of hair until quite recently, but he's in his late 50s now. however my mum's dad is a bald fucker, though dont know how early he went
>>10749723
>the vast majority of young balders diffuse thin
interesting, any source/more info on this?
keep fighting the fight zach.
>>10749733
its just common knowledge/what i've seen.. young balders by way of going bald young, go bald aggressively, and aggressive baldness invariably means a general thinning. balding doesnt work like an eraser, u dont keep good density whilst ur hairline rapidly goes to shit, just doesnt work that way
>>10749754
cool thanks man
btw how much does fin cost you, say monthly?
>>10749759
I'm not that anon, but I get 20 5 mg pins of Fin from Target for $3.90 with my insurance. Normally it's around $9 for the generic. I cut the 5 mg into 4ths so I'm taking 1.25 mg a day. Not a bad deal to keep your hair.
>>10749759
bare cheap of alldaychemist so cheap i dont even care to recall
Got on fin 1 month ago. Really hope it will help for my hairline... It was all fine until one year ago, now it s receding.
Crown too but I don t care there, I m 1.92, nobody will ever see my crown.
Anyway 0 sexual side effects...
>hair thinning
>think i'm balding
>go to derm
>telogen effluvium
>minox for 6months
>feelsgood.jpg
>>10749754
My hair is reduced to short layered cuts or borderline combovers. My hairline receeded and I see some hairs growing where my hairline used to be. Short of going to a derm, do you think fin could thicken my hair or restore my hairline any, and how long would it take to see results? I'm okay with being bald, but I look better with hair and I'd like to keep it if I could.
>>10749901
like i havnt made it clear enough already
it seems like an understatement to say fin is highly effective as a means of bringing hair miniaturization to a halt, it drastically reduces the amount of the hormone responsible for mpb in the body
youll almost ceterianly not lose any more hair, and have about a ~50% of chance of growing some back, and keeping it for as long as youre on the drug for
fin isnt some voodoo hippy cure, fin is to baldness what antibotic is to an infection
thx for listening and have a very hairy christmas
>>10749901
and 1-2 months
fin generally seems to make a visible impact fast
>>10749948
Sorry mane, thanks
>>10749948
How much are they paying you?
>>10749990
so many unjust anti-fin voices
it deserves a loud pro one
Just FYI I got sides on fin but I've been taking other treatments, (google Seti/RU/CB). It seems to be pretty random whether you get sides or not but the best thing to do would be to take fin and if you get any hint of sides just stop and don't take it again, your body isn't right for it.
The scary thing is there are guys who take it for 10+ years and then they get hit by sides, it can be pretty unforgiving if you don't act on it soon.
>>10749539
yeah it's a component of my hrt
no complaints so far op
>>10750022
How soon did your sides appear? I'm OP the only thing I notice so far is a "lower sex drive" but I still have no problem getting it up and cumming whatsoever.
>>10750022
nah there is a pattern
if ur gay and take fin you wont be able to get it up with a girl
>>10750036
Like a week, getting worse progressively. The lower libido wasn't terrible but I got brain fog on that shit which I couldn't handle so I went off it. I could get it up fine but I was just way less interested in sex overall, which reverted.
>>10750038
I could still get it up with girls though, but my drive was way lower than normal
>>10750049
>but my drive was way lower than normal
this strikes me as entirely imaginary. couldn't be anything else desu
>>10750056
It's not imaginary when you lose your morning wood, I'm not even awake when that happens, so it's entirely a function of my body's hormone levels
>>10750049
and omg only just noticed
>fin brain fog
hahahah this old gem ive heard this a lot
absolute bs. what does that even mean, u were probably just hungover
>>10750064
r u being serious right now
why does not getting morning wood mean anything in the first place
why do u even begin to connect this meaningless occurrence with fin usage
i rly dont know where to begin
>>10750082
Are you slow on purpose? Off fin I would get morning wood everyday, on it I wouldn't ever. Off it the morning wood came back. There's a direct fucking correlation right there, attributed to fin usage
yo i've been thinkin about starting this, been putting it off because of side effects scare stories but i guess if i notice anything happening i can just stop... better make a start before its too late
any UK brothers use it? anyone know any shops/brands that make effective and cheap finasteride? propecia seems too pricey, like over £400 a year or some shit
>>10750098
do you really not see how ridiculous this all sounds?
>>10750111
alldaychemist
cheap as fuck and legit
>>10750119
How is it ridiculous, it's a direct effect of fin usage that relates to libido. Going on and off it got the same effects each time.
>>10750078
>there are no side effects associated with finasteride whatsoever
>it's all in your head
pharma shill pls go
>>10750137
no it isnt
i rly just dont where to begin dissecting that kind of post and i cba cause ive had nearly two bottles of wine
it just screams imaginary symptoms
pls stop posting in this thread
>>10750138
'fin side effects' is for all intents and purposes a complete and utter myth, its better tolerated than nearly all other pharmaceuticals
>>10750149
Solid argument retard, you have literally no clue what you're talking about, you can't even say what's wrong with my point.
>>10750098
Is it weird that now that I am on Fin I've been having more morning wood but when I wasn't it on it I haven't had it in years?
>>10750153
everything is wrong with it stop posting and go have a think
>>10750157
no, finasteride actually raises testosterone levels(obviously, because it reduces the amount of testosterone that gets converted in to dht) so its perfectly normal to experience increased libido whilst on it
>>10750157
Nah fin increases testosterone and effects everyone slightly differently
>>10750165
Still can't come up with something, take your time don't worry
>>10750186
>effects
ur illiterate as well as a piss poor anti-fin shill go away
>>10749561
It's not about how much you lose, it's about how fast it grows back. It's not like bald people can grow hair but it just falls out, balding is a slow process and takes years, people shed between 50 and 150 hairs per day and so doesbald people, the only difference is that balding people don't grow "new" hair. Look at your hair quality and COMPARE your hairline to it's older days, some have a fucked hairline from birth and are delusional tho
>>10750195
Nice ad hominem, focus on my actual points next time retard thanks
>>10750216
thats exactly the point u made absolutely no point just completely unreliable, bullshit ramblings
>>10750260
>can't refute anything I said
>i-it's bullshit!!
Ok retard
>>10750302
wtf r u talking about m8
>>10749581
You faggot I would kill for that crown
>>10750036
Tfw watery cum. Send help anons
if you are attractive forget about using that shit and go on with your life, it wont mean shit in the end
if not then gamble and if you get sides get mad at doctor fin here
>>10750423
LOLLL THIS OLD CHESTNUT
CUM THICKNESS VARIES NATURALLY ALL THE TIME DEPENDING ON LOTS OF FACTORS, U NOTICED UR CUM BEING WATERY ONE TIME SINCE U STARTED TAKING FIN THAT IS ALL
THERE IS NOTHING TO TAKE FROM THIS
FUCK OFF
I tried fin for 3 weeks. Could barely get an erection, penis felt numb, no desire for sex. Why do people still doubt the side effects? What do I have to gain from making this all up?
>>10750700
stop blaming fin for ur fondness of dick
dont fuck with hormones guys, there's a reason propeciahelp.com exists
>>10750748
stop being deluded into thinking sides dont exist
>>10750768
they do exist
every drug has a risk of sides
fin is safer than the majority of drugs thus the whole deal of ]fin+sides' is a myth
>>10750786
>they do exist
>whole deal of ]fin+sides' is a myth
You are a grade A fuckwit
>>10750808
seems like u cant comprehend a simple point nvm
>>10750574
Nah m8
I'm 24 now. I have been thinning from the crown area for 3 years. pic related, it's similar where I was just before starting fin.
Last year I decided to make a move and went to dr who prescriped me for generic finasteride. I had heard from possible sides, but I never paid much attention to those.
I was on fin for 6 monts. I regained ALL of my hairloss, and my hair was thick as fuck. BUT
>Within first month I lost my morning wood
>Cum went from full glue to wet watery, wich was expected as fin fiddles with prostate.
Worst side was
>Reduced libido and weakened erection
I always have had rock solid erection, and I fapped 1-3 times per day. But after few monts on fin, I only fapped for 1-3 per WEEK. This reduced libido also affected my sexlife with my gf. It was then when I decided that I'd rather lose my hair than my libido. I've been off from fin for 6 months, libido and erections are now normal, but my hair is still better than when I started using fin, but it's shedding at decent rate. Anyways, I like to think that:
>I'd rather be bald and fap with rock solid dick than try to have sex with full head of hair but with limp dick.
I'm 25 next spring. I'm OK with the fact that I'll lose my hair at this age, as long as I can keep my libido. It's what makes man a man. Some women will always find bald appealing.
Of course I can't say for sure that Fin will cause sides, but just remember that there is a possibility for that.
>>10751158
Still continuing.
I am not comfortable fucking with my hormones at the age of 24. DHT is a very powerful androgen, I like to keep in my body, even if it takes my hair. Fuck hair if it comes to that.
>>10751165
its true DHT gives you muscle definition and mass
when I was on fin my body turned to shit 4 months off of it and i was shredded again
DHT also makes you agressive and good at thinking dont listen to the shills in this thread balding sucks but being a depressed fat faggot with hair is worse believe me
just get a transplant later
I've been taking 1.25 mgs for a year, I had some side effects but they went away after a month or two. But the shit doesn't work. My hair just seems worst then when I started. I'm thinking about just getting off it.
>>10749539
I was on name brand Propecia 1mg for about 2 years, then generic finasteride 1.25mg (split a 5mg pill into quarters) for about 2 more.
Pros: Absolutely stopped my hair loss in its tracks.
Cons: Slowly but surely, my libido waned. Wasn't as hard as before. Developed slight gynecomastia. At some point I started to think I wasn't going to be able to get it up. I never did ultimately fail to get a boner but the fear was enough. I quit using the stuff.
I did shed some hair in the 18 months since I stopped but it wasn't as bad as I'd feared or expected. Libido slowly returning to normal, but I mean slowly. It might take as many years to fully recover as it did to wane.
Bottom like is it's not worth it. Hair transplant surgery has come a long way. Either get some follicles transplanted to your problem areas and see how you like it, or shave it all down to stubble.
>>10751284
Balding is fa
I just got some from a dermatologist.
She shilled it ridiculously hard to me that I'm worried. Like she barely mentioned the side effects at all, just said there's a slight chance of impotence. She said that she is currently treating 20 men with it, and none have side effects. Could this be true?
>>10749948
Fuck off, shill. Could you be any more obvious?
Started losing my hair a few months ago, I'm almost 30. Wasn't really sure what I should do because I'm vain as fuck. Started researching online on methods that didn't involve expensive surgery or chemicals with really bad side effects
http://jdmoyer.com/2015/08/03/hair-regrowth-update-and-faq/
Came across this goob. Said he massages his head 2-3 times a day. Thought it was silly but I figured I'd give it a try. Been going for about 2 months now and I've noticed new hair growing where the thinning was at it's worst. The thin spot gets a little darker every week and honestly I'm surprised that it's working. No idea if it'll work for others but it's worth trying because it's completely fucking free.
>>10749878
Kek thats what they tell you when they dont know what to tell you. You're balding.
>>10751158
all sounds imaginary
>>10751165
dht serves no valuable purpose in an adult male human. prove me wrong
>>10751284
no moreso than testosterone.. fin raises test levels slightly
>>10751425
yes it does and v well, as proven by all studies
women cant run their hands through confidence
positivity doesnt frame a face
get on /fin/ today white brothers and stay forever exuberant, freedom awaits, dont be a bald ugly alien
People don't really want to hear these stories but I started taking it when I was nineteen. Developed gynecomastia, "brain fog", libido and complete erectile dysfunction within a few weeks.
I stopped using immediately. Took me about 3 years to recover fully after numerous trips to a urologist, and undergoing a sleep study where they attaching this monitor to my penis. This was at a teaching hospital as well so a bunch of students got to share in my humiliation.
My hair just isn't worth it, when it recedes far enough, I'll shave it. I think the worst part was trying to time viagra/cialis with one night stands. 4 different occasions where I mistimed and just couldn't get a boner at all.
>>10752342
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>>10752346
Thanks for your input.
>>10751284
this post right sums up everything wrong with anti-fin shills
>when I was on fin my body turned to shit 4 months off of it and i was shredded again
i mean, come on now.just look at this, this surely can't come across to anyone as anything other than completely retarded
>>10752353
>anti-fin shills
You probably take fin currently which renders your opinion completely worthless as you have a vested interest in the drug not fucking your shit up.
>>10752359
lolwut
men are just obsessed with their dicks so imagine symptoms related to them, most of the time, and these guys have a high interest in warning other guys about their dicks
~99% of men dont actually get sides
Don't go on fin. It's bad for your health.
>>10752346
you are one dense motherfucker holy shit
http://www.pfsfoundation.org/
>>10752366
that's also a really nice statistic you got there you anti intellectual man child
>>10751758
It's statistically possible that out of 20 men none have shown side effects (yet).
Even the makers of Propecia acknowledge the possibility of side effects and they sure as hell do happen, though.
Anyone who had success with Fin, when did you first start noticing results?
>>10752353
>racist
>doesn't understand what the word "shill" means, yet uses it in every post
There's probably a way you could have even less credibility in this thread, but I can't imagine how.
>>10752812
>>10752898
Ha can't people we're still Having this debate
Truth is anti-fin shill bullshit stopped being taking seriously years ago
Go guzzle some wine and fuck off
Talk about a vocal minority blooming heck
Fin is a highly effective and safe drug
This is a an indisputable fact backed up by countless international studies
Imaginary anecdotes don't mean shit
In 2015 Whether you go bald or not is now entirely up to the individual
Now Fuck off
I did fin and regrew a ton of hair
stay mad baldies and pussies who are too scared to take a pill with 1/10000 chance to harm you
lets go over side effects:
of people who take fin, 1/100 will experience side effects, the VAST MAJORITY of these side effects are minor like watery semen
of those 1/100 people who experience side effects, 1/10 will experience severe sexual side effects (these tend to be men in their 50s who were already near the tipping point)
and of these 1/10 out of 1/100 men who experience severe side effects 99/100 of these men will CEASE TO HAVE SIDE EFFECTS after discontinuing fin for 3 months
remember finasteride has been prescribed to tens of millions of adult men and the result is you get some people with side
compared to accutane, SSRIs, Antipsychotics, etc etc. it's vastly more safe
>>10753024
Brofist senpai keep popping the good stuff
Breakfast of champions
Way of the wonderful
Gift of eternal youth
For finasteride I am eternally grateful
>>10753034
np senpai I keep the stats on deck
*****INCOMING WITH ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC, PEER REVIEWED DATA**************
>>10753054
>*****INCOMING WITH ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC, PEER REVIEWED DATA**************
>(2/2)
I don't really need to explain this to yall cause anyone who took statistics in gradeschool can see that finasteride side effects BARELY outperform the placebo
why can't people just accept that it's men in their mid-late 50s who primarily use finasteride and this demographic of men is the EXACT demographic where dick failure occurs
>>10753059
>>10753054
Anti-fin shills ladies and gentlemen
I'm not going to validate this with a serious response
>>10753024
Nice! When did you start seeing results anon? I've been on the Big 3 for about 2 weeks and I see notice the same amount of shedding (maybe a little less)
>>10753067
I saw results starting on month 5.
Months 1-3 I had a very large shed, approx 400 hairs per day
Dumping some fin porn
Before
After 1/2
After 2/2
>>10753090
Looks good anon! Your hairline def grew a little and your hair looks healthier overall
>>10753090
W2c sweater
I'm on month 8 of finasteride and my hair hasn't improved, has seemingly got worse.
Unfortunately I may not be the best responder, going to give it to month 18 before deciding on minoxidil or dutasteride.
>>10753106
Nause poorjects
What's even the difference between;
>dutasteride
>minoxidil
>finasteride
I only researched minox
>>10753115
Pics or it didnt happen
>>10753120
Dutasteride eliminates dht completely, which I personally don't feel comfortable doing just yet, at least not until lengthy dutasteride studies are released, but I have a feeling it's very safe just like fin
Finasteride like ~80%
Minoxidil just a growth stimulant, nothing to do with hormones
>>10753120
Dutasteride is a stronger form of Fin
Minoxidil is a growth stimulant for hair but doesn't block DHT (the hormone that causes hair loss)
Fin helps to block DHT
>>10753116
I don't get why you're so defensive of this medicine dude lol you seem so touchy aboutt it
I really did look way worse on fin and I felt depressed and sleepy all the time. I was on it for 6 months and I wasn't able to concentrate on anything and my dick and balls did look smaller. I didn't even know the sides existed until I looked them up later and they described exactly what I was feeling
I don't get why you have to militantly attack anyone who disagrees with your precious drug I know it's not everyone but I really did not feel well on fin and I'm glad I'm off.
>>10753122
Promise you man, there's no point in lying. People say you need a year to really assess finasterides efficacy for you.
I didn't even take pictures when I started taking fin because it wasn't that bad at all - now it's gotten worse.
I don't shed that much, but never did before I think... just gotta give it time!
>>10753120
>>10753136
Pretty much this, personally I'm on minox because is cheaper and I'm afraid of sides, it probably isn't as efficient as fina but I'm giving it a try, I'm currently close to 4 months of minox. Problem is my problem is about the temples, something it doesn't really affect, except for some thickening in the hairline you already have. I'd probably need a transplant for that but fuck it, you can't even tell until I pull back my hair
Thanks for the info my fellow balding friends.
>>10753403
Not defensive at all
I just post the scientific facts
Meanwhile u post anecdotal gibberish
>>10753420
Nobody on the Internet has ever posted photographic evidence of their hair getting worse on fin, they haven't even tried to feign such a thing (which is surprising)
It just doesn't happen
>>10753506
I still have hope, I mean, you are right, if I am taking finasteride there is no way my hair loss can be accelerating at a faster rate than without, so yeah.
I am going to see a doctor to check my thyroid, probably should have done that earlier. Also using dr regenepure shampoo which has keto in it.
I'm ordering from alldaychemist + inhousepharmacy, like you
>>10753525
Godspeed anon
May finasteride unshroued your earthly woes and carry you over to brighter paths
20 months on finasteride here.
2 years ago I worried a bit about balding.
Now I'm wondering what faggy haircut to get next.
Go fin, you idiots. There is no fucking reason to go through the stress of balding as a 20-something man. Zachipster, you're doing God's work here.
>>10753578
Thank u m8
Finasteride is the reddest pill I know
Anti-fin shills on suicide watch
>>10753578
But it's not a permanent solution.. not risking muh dick and something that fucks with my hormones and makes me feel like a lesser man. I'm 19 and I've already receded to about a norwood 3, and it keeps thinning.. just gonna wait for the rest to fall out and get a transplant
>>10753671
>>10753671
How can you be a shill for anti fin what is there to even benefit from
You're the one pushing a product like its some sort or miracle. Do you have a job or a life or do you just obsess about your hair and worship fin all day?
Judging from your frog NEET posting I'd say the latter
>>10753702
oh and I took accutane as well, the derm had given thousands of patients the drug and said it was completely safe apart from cracked lips. It fucked up my intestines so bad that for a year after I couldn't go anywhere without fearing my stomach would collapse on me. Also a ton of other side effects and I was pretty much suicidal..
There's a reason people are saying these drugs are dangerous
>>10753702
>But it's not a permanent solution
Your youth is not permanent either. Norwood 3 is okay, get on fin, thicken that shit up, sport a messy hairstyle through your 20s. Fuck cute girls.
>>10753710
>what is there to benefit
Anti-aging
Anti ugliness
Massively extended exuberance and youthful pride
Going baldness is a death sentence unless you're Matt bomer
I'm just here to help senpai chill
>>10753710
Oh wait I misread
It's essentially feminist propaganda, but rly a lot more complex than that
And If a 'miracle cure' means a cure then finasteride is indeed a miracle cure
>>10753754
You didn't answer the question
What's your job? I do research. I couldn't focus or concentrate on genetics or biochemistry at all on fin and I didn't even know that was a side until after I quit
It's not harmless when you're brain works at half speed. Doesn't happen to everyone but it happened to me. On top of that I was depressed and tired all the time
>>10753702
Finasteride is seemingly a 'permanent solution'
The 10 year studies recorded no further loss, generally speaking
The 15 year studies are yet to be released, but considering the 10 year studies unveiled even more positive results than the 5 year studies it seems absurd to suggest that the 15 year studies will break this positive trend
It is pretty much scientifically possible to lose hair on fin, obviously, as I have already said, because it near enough obliterates the hormone responsible
>>10753809
Why does it matter what my job is
>>10753812
*impossibld
>>10753015
>blatantly shilling for a product
>oblivious to the irony
stay butthurt and cringe-inducingly stupid
>>10753812
>'permanent solution'
>requires taking it daily for the rest of your life
I think you might actually be getting dumber. How is that even possible?
>>10753823
Yeah you're a NEET who doesn't need his brain that's why you shill and namefag hard that's what I thiught
>>10753839
Yeah cause paying 15gbp every 3 months and popping a tiny little pill every time you wake up is just such a strain man
>>10753849
I wish I was a neet
Anti-fin bullshitters especially bald and suicidial this Christmas
Meanwhile those who know better especially comfy and hairy we got dis senpai
>>10753885
Also, if anyone doesn't know by now about PGD2 and PGE they need to do some research ASAP
Basically there's a guy on the internet called 'swisstemples' that was able to grow back the hair on his temples by targeting PGD2 and PGE.
The guys routine is pretty insane, but it's actually not that unreasonable to mimic if you're so inclined.
Guy did a lot of research into it, and it actually looks like a legit way to grow back the hair on temples.
>>10753855
>not knowing what the word "permanent" means
>>10752366
The 99% statistic is true, but that is only in the studied group of men, who had not taken the drug for a period longer than five years. There were not yet studies for the (side) effects over periods longer than that last I checked.
I personally first started using minoxidil, and hopped onto fin two months later. I have used it for a year total. My hair did not change, which is what is mainly promised by it. But now, six months after cutting of the usage of both drugs it still is the same so perhaps I was paranoid.
The effects I noticed during the usage of fin were:
>Reduced bodyhair
Like seriously, my chest, leg and armhair thinned out a lot. Not really a problem though.
>Fatique and lower endurance
I swim a lot, while I was on fin I felt more tired often and my endurance plummeted. This is of course not necessarily because of fin, but after stopping it got a lot better and my times improved again.
The second effect caused me to stop in the end. T and dht are both linked to muscle development, and since my hair stayed the same I felt like I no longer wanted to mess with the hormones that essentially make you a man. I have accepted that this might mean I will go bald in the future, but as of now my hair is doing good.
Daily reminder fina and minox won't do shit for your temples except maintaining and you'll need a transplant for them.
>>10755910
Get ready fin shills are going to attack you for your reasonable conclusion based on experience and chalk it up to
>muh placebo
>>10749539
I have a turbonerd friend that got bald cuz of this.he went yolo and shaved recently.
probably this treatment would have been better on him depending on how much it costs, I told him that he was fine before he shaved his head and that he had more time, he was like the "after picture" of that "before after" but he was balding. I still think that move was too early but I guess he was kinda fed up with it. He went full Lex Luthor.
All this makes me feel happy about my genes, blonde long healthy hair. My hair is metal af, I thank the gods everyday for that. I would get scarred shitless if this happened to me from the front or the back or anywhere but because I'm kind of a blonde master race hair fetishist and forever young lol.
>>10756599
What a mess of a post
Is it too late for me? I will eventually get implants but I'm 22 an don't want my hairline to recede any further
>>10757433
your hairline doesn't even seem to be receding you stupid shit
so this is what my hairlines like now, my sides are thinned and so is my crown. I buzz and it's not too noticeable, but will I ever be able to grow thinned hair back? I plan to get surgery for my temples, but can I use some combo of minox+hair shampoo + fin to grow hair back? Anyone got stories?
>>10755910
tl;dr
'finasteride+ sides' is a myth
its perfectly safe
fuck off
gonna start dutasteride after I reach month 11/12 on finasteride, or maybe even sooner than that.
fin hasn't helped me at all and im 8 months in (same poster as before), dutasteride seems to work way better as it blocks almost all DHT.
>>10757837
have you lost any hair
i bet you havnt
>>10757843
damn you monitoring this thread a lot zach
I have dude, not everyone has great success on finasteride, there are in fact hundreds of threads on various forums where people don't have success with fin.
some people don't notice any results till 12-18 months anyway.
>>10757814
the general experience of taking fin is
>you take it
>your hair rapidly goes back to how it was a little while before you started taking it
>you never lose any more hair and never think about baldness ever again
>your dick stays hatefully erect
enjoy
>>10757868
pics or it didnt happen
practically nobody loses hair on fin
>>10757814
fin doesnt do shit but retaining what you have and making you a sissy fagget
the only valid solution is a ht
>>10757879
hey man ive been taking fin and none of this is true, why are you shilling so hard?
my experience
>hair still thinned
>no growth even with minox
>hair hasnt receded further
>0 sex drive and never get erect unless I make myself erect
i'd probably be dead by now if i didn't take finasteride
>>10757884
>hundreds of posts saying hair continued to get worse after a year on fin on the internet
ok zach.
>not being on far superior dutasteride
>>10757887
hair trsnaplants are the drastic option for old men who went bald before fin came out in 1998
theres no reason for anybody to have a ht anymore
>fin kills your dick buhuu
bullshit, both me and my friend take finasteride and we blow each other every friday. our dicks are as hard as ever at the age of 35.
>>10757890
lol, in between me responding to zachs immense shilling there is a post about fin not working
not sure why zach is so adamant about fin shilling but there's far more strangely behaved people on 4chan i suppose
>>10757890
pics or it didnt happen
>>10757894
anecdotes dont mean shit
literally nobody has ever posted legit photgraphic evidnce of their hair getting worse on any baldness forum
>>10757911
so...you want pics of my dick and hair or what lol
ok it's confirmed, zach is retarded
>>10757912
just ur hair thx m8
immediately pre-fin and then at least a few months in
>>10757926
sorry i dont really love myself too much, dont have any pre fin pictures with focus on hair..
>I'm going to lose my hair because nerds on a Mongolian goat trick training forum scared me from taking a stupid pill
I don't even.
>>10757940
>I'm going to lose my dick because nerds on a Mongolian goat trick training forum encouraged me to take a stupid pill
if you get sides at least you can get mad at fin shill here
>>10757932
haha exactly.
just anecdotal bullshit like always
meanwhile fin users lying comfy with their full heads of hair and countless worldwide airtight, double-binded scientific studies studies backing up every word they say and that fin is a highly effective and safe drug
>never ever putting your dick inside a cute young girl again, keep muh dick and meme around 4chan claiming fin kills your manhood
or
>keep putting your dick into cute young girls who moan and run their hands through your hair as you ravage them
meh, guys. stop the meme. get on fin. and preferably minox.
What's everyone's thoughts on toppik/caboki?
>>10758011
works well
i used it before the fin kicked in
>>10758020
You ever find if you sleep with it in or forget to wash it out, you have heavy brain fog in the morning?
I'm not on fin right now, but I've been taking minox for around 6 months. I'm just getting a hair transplant in a year so I don't see any reason to bother with fin so long as I can maintain what's on my head for another 12 months.
>>10758031
lol whats this obsession with brain fog
>>10758067
It's not really an obsession, it's pretty clearly a thing. I've experienced it with minoxidil, but I find my head feels weirder if I sleep with caboki in.
Just because you pretend side-effects don't exist, doesn't mean they don't. You shill fin like you're on commission yet people in this thread have actually had side effects happen to them. Not anecdotal. First hand. I don't know why you find that so hard to believe.
I've noticed my hair receeding on my left temple, but mostly just my left temple. Is it normal to just have a higher hairline on one side? Or is shit going to get worse? I'm only 19, and finasteride is expensive
>>10758274
same here mate, been like that since i was like 18. the bloody left temple
man if i was as ugly as zachipster id wanna be taking every anti-hairloss drug under the sun too. poor cunt. your dick or your hair is a fuckin easy choice when you're as hard to look at as that bloke
I'm just accepting it, not gonna take the risk of losing my dick.
>>10758341
are you sure it's actually thinning? sometimes when you take a photo like that and your hair is short it looks like it's thinning but it's just your scalp reflecting light. tilt your head to the side and see if it has the same effect on other areas of your head
>>10758352
I'm pretty sure I'm balding m8. Lost all that hair on my top and vertex in three months.
>>10758357
Another.
>>10758381
I just keep it buzzed now, looks actually kind of good on me.
>>10758396
yeah does look good mate. weird that your hairline is fully intact. have you been tested for any thyroid problems or insulin resistance?
>>10758417
I think a lot of people start thinning on the crown. Then there are people with just the receding hairline, and lastly those poor souls who get the crown+hairline combo
>>10758417
I'm fat so I probably have the insulin resistance thing, there was nothing wrong with my thyroid in blood tests three years ago. Think I should get it checked again?
>>10749539
I have been taking Finasteride for about four months now. It seems to be working. For me however it is also important emotionally as I know that I am at least taking steps to preserve my hair.
>tfw Sister-in-law being a pharmacist is saving me 50% on Finasteride
>>10758447
Absolutely. There's a chance they could be connected.
>>10758453
Well I'll get it checked this week. Would be great if it's reversible.
>>10758447
yeah there are heaps of studies that have connected insulin resistance/type 2 diabetes with early hair loss. some big lifestyle changes could really help you man, you probably won't be able to regrow hair but you may be able to seriously slow it down
thyroid tests are kinda shithouse, maybe try an iodine loading test
>>10758457
Well I'm losing weight lately and trying to break out from my sedentary life style, fix eating habits. Also just checked insulin resistance symptoms and fuck I have them all.
>>10758462
yeah good for you man, keep on losing weight. get fit. you're gonna make it bro.
at the end of the day, whether you keep your hair or not, getting fit and healthy will make your life a hundred times better than what it might have been if you stayed overweight and unhealthy.
why are men so insecure in 2015? just buzz head and grow beard/stubble
>>10758493
Why not shave face too?
>>10758452
you can get fin online for cheaper I bet
>>10758477
Yeah, need to lose around 25 kg now to be in a decent shape now.
>>10758462
Your looks are already improving
>>10758462
I have a feeling that you'll be very good looking when you lose all that weight, fight on!
>>10757958
what brand of fin do you use?
What happened to that guy that got a transplant on his temples only in India?
ever comeback with results?
>>10753024
Why would you need to compare a drug that affects you on a level that targets hair follicles to drugs for depression and schizoids? Are you really grasping that hard that this drug shouldn't be relegated to that level despite having the same fucking effects of those drugs?
It's unbelievable the amount of bullshit that fin users feed themselves to sleep well at night.
>>10758493
>HotBaldGuy.jpg
Because not every bald guy is a hot bald guy.
And of course there's the eternal youth indoctrination pushed by the media.
>>10758704
this.
keep going dude.
>>10749577
Fuck you, man.
I'm Mexican and slightly chubby although I'm working out. When I go full bald i'm going to look like a cholo or some shit probably. Plus I have a big head.
>>10758493
He's hot, but he would still look MUCH better with a full head of hair
>>10758625
>>10758704
>>10759928
t-thanks, never thought I'd get this reaction from /fa/
really feel bad for the guys who went bald without using finasteride. my twin brother started balding around the same time as me. we both checked out our options, but only I started finasteride. i hate to see him dislike his look now. it saddens me really. dont fucking let this happen to you guys. at least try the fucking thing. if you're cool with balding, then go bald. if you can pull it off, then fucking pull it off. but if you are unsure, at least try the stupid pill.
tranny here, inb4 literally every joke in the world, I know.
Its good for light hair loss. If you are a guy whos lost a fuck ton of hair, then it may just be better to accept your losses because it can really fuck up your hormones if you weren't transitioning like I was when I was taking it. It may fuck up your hormone levels and bone density if you take it long enough. The way it works is by blocking certain androgens from inducing mpb in men, some experience regrowth (I did.) but its always better if you get on right as you notice the thinning. The side effects are limp dick, loss of strength, breast growth, joint pain, and depression and its caused by the partial blocking of some of your bodies sex hormones.
imo you'd be better off by letting nature take its course and getting a haircut that suits your age and type of baldness but if you are hellbent on keeping your hair then get on it asap, take biotin/multivitamin, use minoxidil, get lots of sleep and make sure you eat lots of soy protein.
Taking spirolactone for almost a year now.
My armpit and leg hair now grows much much slower. My leg hair used to fully regrow after a week when i shave it and now it barely does.
And i can get erections but its just smaller than it used to be. i got a boner in the middle of class despite being told i wouldnt get spontaneous erections anymore so that was upsetting.
I'm going full bald at the beginning of the year since my hairstyle choices in the military are limited to shit that doesn't look very good when you are balding. Shit sucks.
>>10762167
Did you get gyno?
>notice my hairline is receding
>shave head
>looks alright
>patchy beard starts slowly coming in
>as my hair gets thinner my beard gets less and less patchy
>look in the mirror
>realize I'm slowly aging into jason statham
I am ok with this
Anyone take biotin?
>>10754104
I dont really care about the hair on my temples. Most Hollywood actors have that bare temples look, it makes u look mature and handsome. ITs the front hair that is the problem.
>>10762647
I've been taking biotin for years. It does make my hair feel healthier but it won't do shit by itself for MPB. My derm recommends I take biotin with my Finasteride.
>>10749539
Slightly weaker erections and noticeably watery cum. It's not for me.
>>10749547
>no sides obv cause finasteride sides is a myth
lol
>>10762647
been taking it for a bit less than a year. makes your hair grow really fast but wont do much else
I got post finasteride syndrome 2 years ago.
I'm 23 and can't get an erection.
I'm not going to try to convince you of not taking that fucking poison, but if you ever get problems with side effects, solvepfs dot com is the less suicidal cominuty to deal with this shit.
>>10749539
So easiest way to get a script for fin is a derm right? I dont have any hair specialist really in my area. Derms arent to hard on prescribing it yeah? 20 and def noticing some scalp on my crown and hair thining on top since may. luckily i usually sport a buzz cut and got a great shape for it but I feel itll reach that point where it'll become noticeable even with it short, plus i'd like to grow out my hair again
>>10763206
Yes or a hair transplant doctor. When I went to my derm he literally had my lift up my fringe to see my hairline and looked at my crown. Ask about 2 questions about family history and said "You have very mild MPB, here are you options..."
>>10758381
JUST
I'm taking finasteride, dutasteride, RU58841, Neogenic, Silica, Minoxidil and more.
I'm slowly receding in the temples.
>>10749554
>get a ht or just shave it
Getting a ht without taking fin is a great idea, right? Lol, idiot
>>10749709
I'd start taking finasteride if I were you. Chances are you won't recede or recede slowly, but why take the chance?
>>10752342
>an upset baldie trying to prevent his competition from keeping hair
topkek
>>10752810
If you are getting sides from propecia, it means you are way too beta and have way too low testosterone to even be alive lol!
Placeboing bitch boys all over the place.
In life you have to risk to gain something. If you can't even take a risk so small, what kind of a man are you?
There is no worth of having a hard cock if no girl wants to fuck your ugly bald face.
>>10753702
>But it's not a permanent solution.. not risking muh dick and something that fucks with my hormones and makes me feel like a lesser man. I'm 19 and I've already receded to about a norwood 3, and it keeps thinning.. just gonna wait for the rest to fall out and get a transplant
You will look like a clown after the hair behind the transplanted hairline starts falling out, because you are a little bitch and refuse to take whats good for you.
>>10753720
>oh and I took accutane as well, the derm had given thousands of patients the drug and said it was completely safe apart from cracked lips. It fucked up my intestines so bad that for a year after I couldn't go anywhere without fearing my stomach would collapse on me. Also a ton of other side effects and I was pretty much suicidal..
Maybe some people are so weak they should just die.
>>10753754
>And If a 'miracle cure' means a cure then finasteride is indeed a miracle cure
Finasteride is by no means a cure. It mostly just prevents the inevitable.
>>10756101
Maintenance is still a good thing.
Once the hair is stable, you can always get a HT from a top of the line surgeon unless you are a pathetic poorfag.
Remember to take blood tests before fin, after 3 months of fin and after 6, 12 months of fin use.
Take DHT tests, estradiol, testosterone, SHBG
DHT has to drop extremely low. If it isn't low enough, add dutasteride and then take the tests again. DHT is what determines if you will be bald or not.
http://www.sciencedirect.com.ezproxy.leidenuniv.nl:2048/science/article/pii/S0190962298700076
here ya go guys, do with it as you will.
>>10762167
>spiro
Tranny confirmed lol
Eventho fin increases testostherone, DHT is much more potent androgen.
I won't touch fin anymore, degreased libido was enough for me.
>>10765004
what do you mean by this?
dht may more 'potent' but it only seems to serve any real function in DEVELOPING males
>>10749581
Dude lol...
>>10765075
yo, zach. do/did you get blood tests before/after starting fin?
>>10765116
nah
I'm OP, will I make it with Fin and Rogaine?
>>10765136
yeah
fin alone's damn hard to lose hair
fin+minox its pretty impossible
>>10765142
I forgot if I asked you, but could you tell me what you experienced from month to month when you started Fin?
