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Skincare General

/fa/ wiki and Skinacea:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Retinoids: http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen: http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles: http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html

FAQ:
General Guide: http://hastebin.com/raw/jakoyizayi
Dark circles: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants, and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Popping pimples and blackheads: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (dark spots): http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf
Skin tone and diet: http://hastebin.com/raw/ehesotajaf
Diet and acne: http://hastebin.com/raw/zuqabalomu
Miscellaneous information (sleep, sun damage, et c): http://hastebin.com/raw/ezuzusoziq

I want YOU who's reading this to bump the thread if needed - otherwise we'll get several pizzaface threads in the catalog like we have now.
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i want off the pizzaface train tbqh
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Had bad acne for years. Was one step away from accutane. Here's how I mostly got rid of it:
>wash face with curd soap every night
>use bpo religiously
>started shaving with a saftey razor instead of the newest gilette Mach 19 face raper
>disinfect blade before shaving
>alcohol based aftershave

and most importantly
>stopped drinking milk

I get one or two barely noticeable spots a week.
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>>10700688

> alcohol based aftershave

Superkek
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I have always has shit luck with sunscreens and have recently found one that was very good and doesn't leave residue on my face after application; however because of the other topicals I'm taking (dermatologist) it makes my face red and dry.

My question is: does applying moisturizer after first applying sunscreen diminish the UV protection? I looked online but found a lot of inconclusive broscience
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>>10700702

You can apply moisturizers after the sunscreen has dried to your skin. Use your fucking brain.
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>>10700705
"Dry" is ambiguous; do you apply ten minutes afterwards? Five? Fifteen?
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>>10700711

3 - 5 min should be more than enough.
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i quit dairy two days ago


when will i see a difference
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>>10700713
within weeks, it seems
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Have read the sticky and decided it's time to start skincare routine.

After some research I came to the conclussion that I don't know jack shit about where/what I have to buy. I know I need some cleaser, exfoliator, astringent and moisturizer but the problem is I don't know how these products are called in my native language. (Dutch)

Nivea seems to have some relevant products but some of their cleansers contain scrub (2-in-1) so figured this might be the same as exfoliating? I'm so confused...

Can someone just give me a list of products available for Europoors so I can just go out and cop some products? I want to start so badly, just don't know where...
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>>10700688
+1 on the razor disinfecting. These things harbor bacteria the same way Europe harbors Syrian refugees. I used to get micro infections along my jawline before doing this.
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>>10700921
did you check the General Guide in the FAQ?
most of the products there are available in Europe - some only on Amazon though.
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>>10700688
can you explain not drinking milk?
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isotretinoin

second time I'm on it now nothing left and no scarring
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>>10701079
from the faq

Diet and acne: http://hastebin.com/raw/zuqabalomu
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might as well just call it 'acne thread' considering the posts we always get

can anyone give some advice on just generally shitty skin?

no acne, just my skin looks like slightly corroded chalk
most people my age just have flat, completely even, homogenous skin that hasnt even begun to get damaged (21)

i stay hydrated and try to get a lot of lettuce and other greens, along with more fruit and vegetables
even if i sleep well it shows up
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>>10701103
have you tried using any kind of moisturizer?
sounds like it would do wonders.

skin moisture levels are more tied to how much sebum that your skin produces, rather than how much water you drink.
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Are Cetaphil products any good?
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> tfw acne

Why is it always cited as being so common? My skin isn't hugely bad, just red shit on my cheeks most the time. But people literally have perfect skin even when they're fat alcoholic slobs, why family??
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>>10701109
yeah
i have for years
have tried many different types of varying sensitivity
oh well
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Why have they gotten rid off the Boots foaming facial cleanser that shit was GOAT.
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Not sure if this'll help someone but hopefully it does.
> be me severe face eczema since 8
> acne on face
> cut dairy and gluten
> both eczema and acne gone

Even got tested for allergies for both and were negative. Hopefully it helps someone with eczema. Took about 2 weeks to see a difference though and still use creams sometimes
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>>10701502
a really thick one should work.

but if you really want to invigorate and get rid of the dullness your skin you should do a light mechanical/acid peel
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how 2 get rid from acne scars lads
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Hey guys, im starting to get wrinkles on my brow, anything I can do for this?
I've had long hair forever so it wasn't noticable until I got it cut recently.
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How do i improve scars/blotchiness?

I hate getting my photo taken because the flash highlights all the redness on my face, while everyone else looks normal. I end up looking so ugly ;_;
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>>10700688
>disinfect blade before shaving
can you explain? Like do you wipe the blade with alcohol or do you own a solution? if so what solution?
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Good cleaners/moisturiser that I can cop at the standard UK shops (Boots/Superdrug/etc)?
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>>10701769
clerasil
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bump after 4chan was down
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>>10700664
how good is CeraVe facial cleaner and moisturizer? Are they /fa/?
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>>10701745
I use hospital grade sterilizer. Rubbing alcohol should do though.
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>>10701386
>>10701975
did you guys really not read the faq
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Face-care lads just came here to say how good pic related is - its like almond oil with a few other bits and bobs.
You smear it in your face (after washing hands) and massage it in then wipe off with a hot flannel.
Remarkable difference made - I was just using Clearasil or something so I guess I should have been
going more gentle? Couldn't recommend this enough - feels lovely my skin isn't only spot-free
its also healthy looking?

Gotta use a fresh flannel (I use 1 per day, re-using it in the evening) to wipe it off which is quite long tbph.
Also its kinda pricey? Idk I think its fully worth it - I don't use anything else apart from moisturizer and
I saw results within like a week?
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>>10702014
theres nothing in the faq about them
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>>10702175
where did you look?
cetaphil and cerave is mentioned in

http://hastebin.com/raw/jakoyizayi
http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
http://hastebin.com/raw/ezuzusoziq
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>>10702014
yeah read it but it's shit desu
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what's everyone using for exfoliator?
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>>10700664
>have acne
>have dry skin too
This is hell because as soon as one stops, the other one increases, but I think that I'm slowly getting the proper routine, as both are stopping. Hopefully I don't mess up.
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This shit is the best spot treatment ever senpai
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>>10702236
how do you think it could be improved?

what information would you like to see?
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>>10702372
Look placebo to me
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>>10702720
add some more products, some of the lists are empty
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>>10701625
I've been using Alpha Hydrox lotion
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>>10703905
name of the product?
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>>10703962
>google

>instant hit
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>
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>>10702284
had bad acne and dry skin for years
>stopped washing my face
>acne gone
>dry skin gone
that's literally all it took for me, washing my face was irritating my skin, all I do is rinse it with water now
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>>10704949
I want to try that desu but I'm afraid it'll just break me out even more. I just got put on tretinoin and minocycline about two weeks ago, maybe once I'm home from college for xmas I'll give it a try so if I break out no qt's will see me
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>>10700664
>>10700664

What do you think about Estée Lauder’s Advanced Night Repair Synchronised Recovery Complex version two?
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How do I get rid of these stubborn blackheads on my cheeks? I also have a lot of discoloring there too.

I've been using pic related since the summer time, plus I've recently bought the paula's choice 5% Benzoyl Peroxide acne treatment and 2% Salicylic acid liquid exfoliant. I've tried not popping it, or touching it, but the same ones have been there for months.

Is there anything I can do to get rid of the blackheads?
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>>10703905
I don't understand. How can a topical cream remove scars?
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Easily my holy grail moisturizer; turns out my skin loves urea. Has a lot of higher end ingredients (urea, ceramide, niacinamide) and is really cheap.

http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/gold-bond/_/Ultimate-Mens-Essentials-Everyday-Hydrating-Lotion

Good reviews too. Only issue I have is that the fragrance gets a bit annoying at times and definitely clashes with cologne.

I suggest anyone who's fed up with products that don't work well to give this a shot.
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i try everything and nothing works

honestly i'm considering just giving up and accepting that i'll have acne and be ugly forever
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I have obscenely oily skin

Like, I wash it in the morning and by time I'm leaving home I have a shiny face already. The rest of my body gets somewhat oily too, but not as bad as my face luckily. I also get few zits now and then, but it's not as bad as when I was a teen and I don't care about them anymore. Needless to say, because of the oily skin I have blackheads too.

I've been to a dermatologist, he prescribed me this cleansing gel to use twice a day, have been on it for few months, doesn't work.

Now I was looking into some really mild, natural treatment. The "don't wash your face" treatment is out of the question for me, I'm often in public and with grills and I can't afford to let myself go even for a few weeks.
I've stumbled across OCM, has anyone tried it? Was thinking about some mixture with castor oil.

Or has anyone had problems with bad oily skin in general?
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How am I doing?
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>>10707237
Do you fuck asian girls?
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>>10707349
why do you ask?
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>>10701773
Is it actually any good?
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>>10700664
And yet no replies, fuck this thread.
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>>10707375
I am a low level Asian fuccgirl
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how is me face doing
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>>10707644
Better than mines.
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Still a lot of red to correct.
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>>10707452
london
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>>10706576
if youve literally had the same blackheads on your cheeks for months then you just need to extract them.
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>>10704949
can you explain this in a bit more detail?
i understand the mechanics of not shampooing your hair, but not using soap on your face seems very strange.

how does oil and residue and dirt not build up?
how do you unclog your pores?
sounds nasty to be honest
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jesus fucking christ
week and a half into accutane

woke up this morning with 5+ pus filled whiteheads

can't even not pop them because washing my face in the shower and wiping with a towel bursts them
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>go to dermatologist at the start of summer
>get prescriptions and start regimen
>skin is clear, no more acne
>finish regimen in 2 months
>skin is fine for a while
>last week
>skin goes to shit seemingly overnight
>both cheeks are currently riddled with painful red zits, skin is oily yet somehow dry and flaky at the same time

I'm fucking done
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>>10709830

it gets worse for a bit. i took it and now i have 0 acne. make sure to take it every day and you're set. also moisturize and watch your aggro levels.
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Why do my eyes look like this
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>>10710184
bump /fa/m
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If you guys want to prevent your acne from getting worse I'd suggest on keeping up on your routine, avoid any diary and whey, not putting on any makeup on your face and getting at least 8 hours of sleep EVERYDAY. I can speak for myself as I have really severe acne and my laziness and impatience is to blame.
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>>10710184
sleep deprivation, dry skin, allergies, or dehydration probably. drink more water get more sleep, eat better and get some eye creme
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>>10710395
thanks, but I've tried all of these things and nothing works. I think I just have really deep set eyes or something.
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95% acne free now. Posted a few times but for those of you who have not read how:

Morning:
-Cleanse (Cerave Foaming Facial Cleanser)
-Exfoliate (Stridex Maximum Strength Pads)
-Moisturize (Cetaphil Lotion)
-Sunscreen

Night:
-Cleanse
-Apply Acne.org 2.5% Benzoyl Peroxide.

Personally, I dont like using moisturizer at night. It seems that drying my skin out at night helos clear spots and then moisturizing during the day keeps my skin from peeling/cracking.

Other things I do:
-Drink plenty of water
-Change pillow case every day (Sometimes every other day)
-Change sheets every 5-7 days
-Avoid touching my face
-Face masks every so often (Not on a routine for this. Usually do it twice a month)
-Cleanse my razor with alcohol before AND after use.

As for diet, I have not noticed an increase in acne based on what I eat. I can drink coffee loaded with sugar and milk, have a bowl of cereal and a glass of milk and eat candy and it doesn't get worse.

Keeping my regiment consistent has been the most important factor.
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I just use soap from the dollar store, whats wrong with yall
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>>10700664
Any of you bros got any tips for Folliculitis?
I'm a poor fag and don't have insurance what's a nigga to do? Tips?
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>>10700664
Would I need any of those skincare products if I just ate correctly. You are what you eat, right?
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how do i get rid of this /fa/? sometimes those spots will get a bit red, im not sure why
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bump for the pizzafaces
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>>10700664
What's up /fa/

I'm sorry for the creepyass exorcist pic, but I dont want anybody to recognize me. Anyway...

It's hard to tell from this pic but there are blemishes beneath both my eyes. They're at the top of my cheekbones.It's not all acne but there is some, my primary concern is with the discoloration. As I said before, it's very hard to notice in this picture, but it's the best an android front camera can do. Does anyone have the same thing or something similar, and know how to get rid of it?
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>>10711554
forgot pic
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Any advice for rosacea such as in this pic?

Went to a dermatologist once and she said I just had to live with it and there's nothing that can be done

Really hurts my confidence desu
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>>10712296

You can look cool as hell with red cheeks, just man up. Or grow a beard.
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>>10706688
>urea

You put piss on your face?
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>>10712318
>You can look cool as hell with red cheeks
Not really.
People ask about it all the time and ask if I'm okay and it's been a subject of ridicule since it started when I was 14.
One of my worst experiences was in high school I got sent off to the nurses office by a substitute teacher because it made me look hot and sick apparently. I tried explaining to her I was always like that, but she still made me go and wouldn't start class until I did. One of the most embarrassing moments of my life desu
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>>10712332

Well that is shitty. I have rosacea, and it used to bother me. People comment it from time to time, but they think its cute. You do too. But if you are having confidence issues just start lifting, seriously.
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>>10712347
>lifting
I went once and the guys at the gym wouldn't stop commenting how red I was. People at school would poke my cheeks all the time too and I even got slapped at parties by jock douchebags who wanted to see if I could get redder

Now I'm 21 y/o neet and I don't even bother going outside anymore. Bit of an overreaction? Probably.

Just curious, but how severe is yours? I went to the dermatologist and she said it was one of the worst she'd seen.
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>>10712366
That's highschool, in normal gyms people rarely even speak to each other, the gym seems daunting but it's actually a comfy atmosphere with very little judging.
Losing body fat will make your cheeks less noticeable, srs.
Go to /fit/ and read their sticky, do SS on a "cut" and you'll be just fine.
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>>10712374
I'm already relatively fit. Not to say I'm ripped or anything but I'm hardly out of shape and I'm built naturally pretty well. Might go at like 2am to one sometime I guess

Anyway, so I take it there's nothing I can do about it?
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>>10712386
I'm not saying you're fat, but having lower body fat will make your cheeks smaller and make it not seem as bad.
I had a friend like you that took cream for it from a doctor and it didn't do shit, so I have no idea.
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i got sudden acne all over the fucking place when i turned 21, prolly from hormonal changes and too much sex :-DDD
anyway at first antibiotics + bp + lots of water
now i ditched the antibiotics and just use bp every night
also exfoliate+cleanse+moisturise every morning
and same without exfoliation at night
pic related
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>>10709830
keep it up lad it will be gone in 3 months unless ur acne is super severe
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>>10710692
irritation, are all the products you use on your face meant for a sensitive skin?

and shave that gross teenage mustache and those hairs on your baby chin
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>>10712395
Alright thanks for the advice man
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I have sebaceus filaments all over my face and my pores are pretty big, what can I do to reduce the size of my pores? Is oil cleansing metod legit?
Also I live in Europe so please if you wanna suggest specific products stick to the one also available in Europe
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>>10712402
karman?
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Question for all those that quit dairy:

When quitting, did you initially notice an INCREASE in acne?

I recently quit all dairy products like a week ago and appear to have more acne. I thought it could be something to do with the body adjusting to the sudden change in, or lack of, milk hormones? idk
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>>10708718
Are you a /fa/ggot?

How the fuck is Irritating your skin with bullshit Placebos any better? Yea go ahead and strip your Naked layer daily bud.

Smh some cultures don't even bath and still don't know what Acne is.
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>>10712527
Of course man

I'd do anything to get rid of this or even just to tone it down
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>>10712531
forgot to trip

but, great

Will post it within a day or so
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>>10712536
Thanks a bunch
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>>10712538
pic related?
jk
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>>10712296
>>10712538
rosacea is a quite complex condition and the reasons to why people have it is not completely established. there are many different suspected causes, several subtypes of the skin disorder, and many different treatments to try.

while there are compounds that can be used to somewhat efficiently treat rosacea "pimples" (like antibiotics, or metronidazole) - the redness is a bit harder to treat.

read up on the lifestyle advice re. diet, sun protection, temperature issues. it actually works to some extent.

there's 2 main things I think you should do:

- get a discreet foundation (and/or spot concealer) to cover up the redness, until you manage to get it actively treated. proper makeup can make a huge difference, as you'll see from the images I'll post. try to not get bothered with the fact that it's makeup and you're a guy (I assume). properly applied makeup will simply make your face look more healthy and normal, and won't be noticed. remember that you have a medial reason to use it. just ask for a good foundation true to your skin in any makeup store - they're used to helping people with skincare conditions there.

- go to a new dermatologist. "there's nothing to do" is completely unfounded. the main treatment I think you should go for is laser treatment/IPL treatment. it'll quite simply burn away the superficial capillaries, and your skin won't be as red anymore. it's highly effective, but you often require repeated treatments - but I really think it could improve your face dramatically. note that I can't really promise anything as I don't know what your face is like, but that a decent derm should be able to offer you treatment options - because there are treatment options. I'll post some before-after pictures of that as well.

just apply makeup in the meantime. it'll do wonders until you're actually able to treat it.

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pic1 - makeup
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>>10712682
pic 2 - makeup
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>>10712682
pic 3 - laser/IPL
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>>10712682
pic 4 - laser/IPL

as you can see, both mild and severe cases of rosacea can be significantly improved.

there's hope for you too.

good luck.
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>>10712366

Hey man i feel you. I have slight redness usually, when the weather gets cold oh man i light up. And i live in Norway.

I haven't thought about it for quite some time actually. But be sure that you are going to be OK.

Those people are just awful, man, remember that those guys give everyone shit.

Lifting won't magically remove rosacea (it might help though), but you need some confidence and realization my man, and lifting feels great.
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>>10712440
>>10707291

Are you guys me? My nose gets it worse and it makes it appear bigger than it actually is. I went to a dermathologist a couple of days ago and he said this was all due to stress and that I should try to solve my problems for the oil to go away. Fucking bullshit.

I read this http://hastebin.com/raw/jakoyizayi

Considering my skin problems should I follow this routine too? Please respond.
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>>10712452
pls respon
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What do you lot think about Simple?

Thinking of copping pic related as well as the Cetaphil moisturiser, but if it's shit I'll find another one.

Maybe the Simple toner or another toner as well but I dunno that feels a bit gay tbqh.
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guys obviously water is super important, but i've been drinking strawberry flavoured water, and i know its got a lot of sugar in, will this make a difference in my skin??

thanks
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>>10707291
>>10712725
it's really quite a tragedy that dermatologists rarely prescribe isotretinoin (accutane) on very low doses to help people cope with extremely oily skin. it would really help you guys get lower levels of oil, since it would kill of some of the sebum-producing glands.

otherwise you generally just need to cope using a non-drying oil-free cleanser, blotting sheets, and a discreet matte foundation - and wait to get out of puberty/the years when there's a lot of excess hormones contributing to oil production (often a main cause).

sebaceous filaments and blackheads can quite easily be treated using "mechanical extraction" and salicylic acid/AHA though.

>>10712725
the stuff in there are just product suggestions. cleanser-exfoliator-moisturizer is quite a universal concept. salicylic acid/AHA should help with the spots (see above).
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>>10712857
Cheers mate, will tell my dermatologist about accutane.

My last question still stands, though. Should I follow that routine on the link? Also, I hit the gym almost daily. Can this have repercussions on my skin?
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>>10709830
Your dermatologist sounds like a quack if he didn't warn you about that beforehand.
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Anyone here /tinea versicolor/?
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