Best cordless tool brand?
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I went to a tool show recently and tried everything from impact drivers to skill saws, jigsaws routers and I can't make up my mind as I want to replenish my cordless set as its ryobi. I'm thinking makita but I'm also swerving toward Milwaukee, what do you guys think?
You got Ryobi, if it works it works. I mean, is there anything you don't like about them other than "hurrdurr mah milwankeeeeee"
Milwaukee. Makita. Dewalt. Metabo. Hilti. Bosch.
>>995306
I would go makita because I've had them and still have them. A buddy likes his milwaulkees. My step son likes his porter cable.
Get something that feels good in your hands.
I like Makita, Milwaukee, Bosch, DeWalt
In that order.
Stay away from Bosch drills. They are shit, I've wrecked 2 in the last 18 months.
Unless it's a Bosch bulldog hammerdrill. Those are good.
Really it's a matter of personal preference. you just have to try the different brands out and see what works good for you. If you work in some sort of trade it's easy because you'll be working with other people who will be using all different stuff who will probably let you try their tools
I like dewalts drills, ridgid angle grinders, skil's saws.
I love makita drills. That being said, I find that dewalt drills/impact drivers have a more comfortable grip, and are of roughly equal quality for slightly less. Makita also charges a fucking shitton for batteries, but it's not like there aren't third party batteries you can use. They do last pretty much forever, and their customer service is nice.
The other great thing about having makitas is that the /diy/ makita jihadist won't attack you for posting.
>>995465
The main reason I dropped Makita for Milwaukee was battery prices and DeWalt wasn't keeping up on innovation. This was about 5 years ago I made the switch tho.
>>995306
Frankly, it doesn't matter. Get the one with the prettiest color palette.
I have a bunch of ryobi green shit for a little over a year and most of the stuff gets used every day except the meme tool vacuum cleaner because a hand broom and dust pan works much more quickly.
If they are still working I won't bother. The reason why you can't choose is because nothing stands out as significantly better than your current line up. Particularly for how much they cost compared.
>>995469
Pretty much this. If ryobi wasn't that obnoxious green and had a good look to it I can guarantee that more people would "swear by it"
>>995476
Ryobi is more than adequate for a vast majority of homeowners.
I like Ridgid
because I own Ridgid
makita cordless drills all day erryday. if you can find a cordless circular saw good for more than a single cut through a 2x6, please tell me.
>>995508
>Last longer than a 2x6
What like ripping one ?
>>995469
Each and every tool brand is OK as long as its tools are yellow and black and guaranteed tough.
>>995508
I got you.
>>995516
My old boss had one of these.
It's a surprisingly capable little saw.
My vote is for Milwaukee. Their 12V line outperforms some 24V lines, and their selection of tools and extras is only matched by Dewalt but they seem to last a little longer.
Dewalt over Makita. Dewalt has a 3 year warranty on their lithium batteries over makitas 1 year. Makita lost a customer over their shitty batteries and less than stellar customer service
>>995508
Makita saws seem to be decent. I spent a year working around carpenters who used nothing but Makita cordless saws. Stairway layouts, joists, 3/8" plywood sheathing, 1-1/4" plywood decking- they did it all with cordless saws. They used Diabolo blades, if it matters.
I liked my Porter-cable 18v set until they switched to 20v just to make people buy all new stuff. Dewalt and others did as well.
FML, I have a perfectly good set of 20-some PC 18v, now obsolete.
I wish I remembered some brand running commercials mocking this shit; "Our stuff runs on the only battery we ever had, and will ever have."
>>995906
You can rebuild those batteries, you know.
>>995306
>Milwauke
Crap
Since when did /diy/ becomes /consumer loyalty/ I thought that was /g/'s job
>>996010
its mostly the self-same cretin - 'show your toolthreads' and garbage like this - "I haz Ryobi so needz noo - howzabout Milwaukee?'
garbage tier threads, garbage tier tools, everytime - into the trash it goes.
>>996014
If you're going to mention garbage, don't forget makita.
>>996010
Since when could you diy without tools?
>>995306
The standard non brushless M18 Drill driver and impact driver set is on sale for 155$ right now.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8736019-milwaukee-m18-18v-lith-ion-1-2-drill-impact-driver-combo-kit-155-free-shipping?v=1
My wife's son swears by chicago electric. He's black though
>>996060
First time trying to meme it up?
A little on the nose dont you think?
>>995521
Those are fucking great I used the foremans one to cut about 500m of 2mm cable ladder covers to fit around all the quake bracing and form the angles. Otoh my drills and grinder are makita.
Ausfag here, Hilti is rated top by most tradies then its makita ( all my tools are hilti except a makita impact that i just rape and use for anything also have the batteries for the radio) but it depends if its for DIY or work, everyday day use definitely spend a little more and get Hilti if its just every so often usage Makita is still a solid purchase.
>>995306
My dad has a Makita set, mostly several years old. They work well, and are in good shape. I've heard that Makita tools tend to hold up very well under abuse, and they seem to have a greater emphasis on minimizing sound and vibration than other brands. I've recently started acquiring some of the brushless Dewalt 20V line, and they are very nice for my purposes. From what I've checked out for what I've been interested in, Dewalt often has an edge in power over Milwaukee (important in metal working), but Milwaukee tools often come with nice cases. Makita bags are nicer than Dewalt's, especially the larger ones for kits. They all generally do their jobs well, so which to pick comes down mostly to the particular specs of the tools you're interested in.
Pic related is an example of what I was talking about with Dewalt vs. Milwaukee. The current high-end impact wrenches are more powerful than any corded wrench I've heard of and all but the most powerful air wrenches. The Dewalt is cheaper and delivers about a third of a percent more torque (real-world tests), while the Milwaukee has a case suitable for hauling around to the places where you might want to use such a tool.
>>996093
I want to see the real world tests, because spec sheets say otherwise.
>>996094
>spec sheets
Spec sheets make assumptions about the stiffness of the assembly being driven. They both exceed their nominal specs.
https://youtu.be/ZUNXe1ha6aA
The DCF899 tool-specific review tested slightly higher, but not by much.
>>996062
Tried to go with cuck,China freight and dindu nuffin all in one post. I guess I came on a little heavy
>>996093
I don't own Milwaukee but check out dewalt t-stack cases some of the tests are crazy I saw a video of a atv driving over one without it even cracking
>>996355
Spamblerg bot detected.
>>995467
Have your old batteries rebuilt. Cheap and better than new
>>996390
New makita batteries autobrick after a certain amount of charge cycles.
>>996398
What part of rebuild don't you understand faggot. The battery pack is removed and replaced.
>>995306
>Wearebecomingexceedinglyeffiecentatcreatingthesethreads.jpg
Jesus Christ. Dewalt contractor lines, Milwaukee and Makita are top tier. Last through abuse until you get tired of them. Probably could survive getting run over by a tank.
Festool and Metabo are for faggy shit. Haven't used em, doubt I ever will. Looks like pussy shit. Literally look like your kids toys.
Ridgid, Hitachi, Hilti, and Bosch are all expensive but nothing special apart from where they specialize in. Gotta be retarded to buy in this level, but solid tools if you get em cheap. Hilti is the brand for powder actuated shit.
Ryobi and Porter Cable are your po boy good enough tools of you take care of them and cheap line.
Consumer Dewalt, Kobalt gimmick ass bullshit, Black and Decker, Craftsman and really anything else are wastes of fucking money. Clunky bullshit and that'll shatter if you drop them off a ladder onto concrete.
>>995306
North Bros. 'Yankee' line of tools can't be beat. Picture related.
>>996410
>Milwaukee
>Ryobi
Same company.
>DeWalt
>Porter Cable
>Back & Decker
Same company
>Metabo
>Hitachi
Same company
>Kobalt
>Ridgid
>Craftsman
Store brands that use many different manufacturers to make their stuff, sometimes with only a color scheme change. Ridgid is a bit of a special case as its only their power tools like drills and such that are contracted out. They are basically Home Depot's power tool house brand while Husky is their hand tools. Kobalt is Lowes house brand and Craftsman of course belongs to Sears. Last I checked TTI (Milwaukee) makes some Craftsman and Ridgid power tools. B&D makes some Craftsman tools also (picture related). Not sure about Kobalt.
>>996453
I'm with this guy. It's original battery will last a lifetime, guaranteed.
>>996386
I ain't not bot
I'm a klutz thank I have dropped it a few times I only own one that my drill n driver came in can't justify the price for just the case but they are very well made
Dewalt all the way. I've used Milwaukee mostly because that's what my boss brings to the job site but my personal tools are Dewalt. I just like them better for a million. Reasons.
>>996409
The protection circuit allegedly prevents it from charging, even with new cells.
Ridgid tools. If you register them, you get lifetime warranty. And it is fucking lifetime. I'm the guy that gets them replaced, I've seen some that have been set on fire and crushed
ITT: Anecdotes
There are pros and cons between tool makes, but in each 'brand' there are multiple levels of quality. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the US get different quality to Europe, Australia, or elsewhere...
Nobody has enquired what OP's use is. How many tools they need, or what their budget is really affects the decision.
If you were working in mostly inside, mostly clean places and you look after your shit, and you're not worried about getting things knocked, then buy the best you can afford.
Festool, Fein, Metabo, Hilti, Panasonic are the top tier brands in Australia, but may not be elsewhere.
DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Bosch, Hitachi occupy the second tier, but it what most people have for a reason: It's good value for the money and when you drop an impact driver off a roof you don't have to mortgage your house to replace it.
There are endless shit tier brands. Ryobi is the best of them.
The other thing that varies wildly between brands is the ranges of tools they have. Makita have an absurd amount of tools, which seems rad, but AFAIK they don't have an 18V nailgun.
tl:dr Brands don't matter as much as budget, range & user needs.
>>996458
Are we really going to do this again? Fuck off.
Been a carpenter for 4 years now. not a long time, but i use makita impact driver and drill both 12v ones and 18v ones. they were in my car when i crashed into an 18 wheeler on a rainy day and got soaking wet. still works to this day. that's 3 years give or take, with daily use and i work 8 - 11 hrs a day in a millwork shop warehouse.
my coworkers use em too. some use Bosch and they are good in a sense that the battery will use the last bit of energy it's got to drive the damn screw into wood, even when it's just a 12v battery drill.
other shop tools we use are
DeWalt 12" miter saw - for more than 10 years i'm told now. only has to have its' brushes replaced and they're cheap
Porter cable routers and belt sanders- cheaper than other brands but they make the best routers and belt sanders for cost compared to others.
Buy bits from different companies though.
Bostitch, rigid, porter cable nailers
Hilti hammer drill - this fucker is awesome
Festool skill saw with aluminium guide and vaccum. Our installers have em and are the best in the line. NOT cheap though. Dewalt is trying to copy it but they suck.
Senco nailers 18 gauge brad, staple, etc
They're oilless and seeing how my coworkers are all foreigners and aren't quite capable of reading instruction manuals for anything, this works great because it doesn't require any maintenance.
Im likely going to start buying into ryobi 18v oneplus system.
>$90 for a 18ga nailer, no obnoxious air + power lines, as well as discrete silence.
As far other tools, many of them are ~45$ including 7" saw, angle grinder, drills, etc.
Ryobi is at least manageable to own and get a job done
>>996838
>festool
>best
Found the shill.
>>997437
fuck off, troll
>>996838
Those are called track saws. We have the Festool one at work. I love it, very useful.
>>997443
Festool Internet Defence Force gtfo
Hey guys, What's goin' on in this thread.
>>997443
>shilling
>>997653
Haven't you heard. This is now a festool shill or gtfo troll thread.
>>997674
>ITT: jelly poorfags what will never own a vacuum that cost more than their car.
>>997678
>more than their car
I drive a van, and there's no shill vacuums in or near it. How does it feel that you paid that much money to collect MDF dust from something that's going to look shit, no matter how much your shilltools cost, purely because you made it?
>mfw not using numatic vacuums.
>>997708
>numatic vacuums
>nu-mat-ic
..thats a fucking HENRY! dude. HENRYS fucking face when you ask him, whether hes asbestos rated? >cough, cough
>>997678
My $40 shop vac with HEPA filters does the exact same thing, without having to remortgage my house.
>>997723
What the hell is a heppa filter?
>>997720
Numatic make the Henry hoover.
Also numatic make asbestos vacuums and some of their really high end stuff out price and outperform that festool nonsense.
Some people just don't get it'll never be mafell but miss the gimmick because of the price tag.
>>996458
Who owns Bosch now? And "same comoany" doesn't mean same quality. I would never buy a piece of shut black and Decker anything, but Dewalt makes good tools for jobsite use
makita and milwaukee imo
>>997988
Bosch/Skil/Dremel is its own monopoly. They make most of their money on other stuff, not tools.
>>995906
buy sony 18500 cells and rebuild your packs(5 cells per pack)
>>995511
I well guess I'm gonna get a FLUKE and poke holes in walls with probes.
>>995306
Makita.
Indestructible, but expen$$$ive.
>>997988
I have some bosch corded drills. They make a decent router too. Really though it all job specific. I prefer hilti for drywall.
>>995306
I just ordered a pack of DeWalt.
DCK255M2
- 1pcs DeWalt DCD995
- 1pcs DeWalt DCF886
> Comes with 2x 5.0Ah Li-Ion BT batteries
> One cheapo plastic case
I bought so many Makita and Metabo tools and they were sooo fucking shit. Hell I bought Black & Decker, Bosch, and I went for the "pro" section always.
But they always break, have some problems, or they are just utter shit altogether.
Now I bought a DeWalt saw months ago, and it's a fucking dream.
Works like a charm, cuts beautiful.
Tell me I did not just make a huge mistake...
Ps.: I know the DCF886 have not got that powerful torque as the other units, but this is the only affordable and reasonably priced combo pack I found.
>>1000775
>Tell me I did not just make a huge mistake...
You biggest mistake is thinking that the high level drill lives from Makita, Metabo, Bosch and the like are going to be vastly different.
If you can find fault in those other brands, you arent going to suddenly be happy with a slight sidegrade to yet another brand.
Dewalts contractor level saws are on a completely different level than their other tools, you shouldnt be comparing the two.
>>1000781
Well the saw is a portable table saw.
>>996453
Good luck drilling concrete with that.
>>995306
I love my 20volt Dewalt tools. They have great power, excellent battery life (except the saws lol) and are made in the USA.
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