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Cutting board. Anyone interested?
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>>956466
Boards look cut. Good jorb OP!
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>>956483
They were scrap from random boards. White oak. Red oak. And a couple strips of mahogany.

>ripped to 2 1/2"
>cut to 23 1/16"

Im not a pro butcher block maker by any means.
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>>956489
Forgot pic
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Time to randomize the types and stagger the grains...or whatever technical term there is for it.
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>>956492
Woops...gotta drum sand em real quick...
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Op here. Pre glue up. Using tightbond II.....3 is better. But ive had good luck with 2.
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Slow night ? :/....heres the glue up guys.
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Another view.

Wont be ready to finish till at least tomorrow afternoon. All criticism, hints, and questions welcome. This is my first diy post. Im just a long time lurker. Feel free to post any wood related projects in this thread. So it will stay open till i finish.
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>>956558
This thread would stay open til you're done whether anyone posts in it or not (probably).
Also, isn't it going to be a pain in the ass to plane that block after all that glue dries on the surface?
Maybe wipe it off with a damp rag?
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>>956558
What are you making?
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>>956579
Ignore that. You're making a cutting board. I read it as you were cutting boards.
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>>956483
Don't worry anon I got your joke, forceful exhale/10
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>>956575
NO

DO NOT DON THIS

chisel off the hard glue blobs off after it dries. Much easier than sanding away all the glue that you wiped down into the grain with a "damp rag." I've learned the hard way.

Also OP, the more straight your glue up the easier things will be. Random orbital sander is your best friend for the final sanding. End grain is a bitch to sand, start with low grit and use decent force.

If you have a belt sander go for it, just be careful.

You can put it through a jointer or planer but the glue and end grain will put chinks in your blades.
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>>956558

Looks like a lot of wood you'll need to plane off for a cutting board and not a butcher's block.
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>>956592
>Much easier than sanding away all the glue that you wiped down into the grain with a "damp rag." I've learned the hard way.

Why? Looks like OP would need to plane away at least half of the thickness of that thing.

Disclaminair- I have never done anything with wood other than split it and burn it.
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Needs more dark wood.

What are you planning on finishing it with, OP?
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Like anon said...its easier to use a sharp chisel to remove the glue. Ive had experiences of the wood soaking up dirty water.

Using mineral oil to finish it....usually heat it in a pot.

The biggest difference in the boards is not even a 1/16.
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>>956603
This is Op by the way...thanks for the advice. I'll probably mess with it tomorrow evening.
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>>956592
I agree with this. When you wipe off glue it spreads like butter and you have to sand like fuck to get rid of the it out the end grain.

You're gonna need a big planer thicknesser to put that through unless you use jigs.

Chisel off hard glue squeeze out
Hand plane over the joints if you really need to
Sand sand sand
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>>956601
I wish i had walnut ....but i didnt want to buy any wood atm. We build cabinets and do trim work.
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>>956605
I have access to a 24" drum sander. Im gonna hand belt it after i chisel the glue.
Im a novice cutting board builder.
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Op here. Drunk atm
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Ok clamps are off time to scrape the glue off
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Time for a rough sanding before i drum sand.
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Got it pretty flat.
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Squared up one side on them miter saw for crosscutting later. Time to drum sand.
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>>956536
>sing tightbond II.....3 is better. But ive had good luck with 2.

What went wrong with 3? Specifically.

I have an end grain cutting board and butcher table project in my future from seasoned cherry logs off my property.
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>>957410
We use tightbond 2 at our shop. I just didnt want to spend any cash on this project...so im just sticking with what ive got. 3 is water proof...2 is water resistant.

I treat my cutting boards well enough not to justify it.
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Time for the crosscutting. I also squared up the sides with the table saw.
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Time for a break....glue up in a few
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>>957418
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Time for the final glue up.....excuse the burn marks.....minor issue with table saw. They will sand out.
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See you next time....one more final sanding. Then ill square it up and round over the edges.

I need to find some nice rubber feet with 316 stainless screws...anyone know of a place with them? I'll do a search maybe.

Gonna take a couple of days to get it oiled right also.
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Looking at my grain.....it seems i might of fucked up...should i have flipped every other one?
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>>957713
Yes, but I wasn't going to say anything.

You can salvage it by cutting across it in another direction, then reversing them as needed. Diagonal may look pretty good.

It isn't that you messed up, it is just that you are not done.
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>>957713
>>957718
You can also make a second one.

Then lay both of them on top of each other, lock them together (no glue), use a bandsaw to jig out a pattern, and swap half the pieces between the 2 boards. The curvy cuts you make will line up perfectly between the 2 different boards. so, you'll end up with some cool patterns and 2 end grain cutting boards.

That is how stuff like this is made.
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Good luck anon. I hope you finish. I know you will. I think you've done a fine job so far.
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>>957718
You think it will warp if i oil it well?
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>>957843
Thanks
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>>957721
I cant imagine making one like that....thats crazy
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Got a rough sanding this morning before work..
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Working on an island.
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>>957970
It is actually very easy to make. The secret is to make 2 boards. Each with 1 color. That's 1 end grain cutting board in black/dark/red wood and 1 end grain cutting board using a light color wood.

Then you sandwich them together so they don't move, but you don't glue them together. On top, draw the craziest patterns you want to make.

Cut all the patterning out through both boards at the same time. You'll end up with the same pattern cut EXACTLY the same in both boards.

Then take a few choice pieces from one board and put it into the other board to replace those pieces. Basically, you swap various pieces between the boards. Now you have 2 separate boards again, but they have pieces of each other in them. You of course have the option of gluing them together.

Glue the boards again and you have 2 amazing cutting boards that make wood working novices scratch their heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCZtB8qLydY
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>>957966
No, it should be fine. Just don't get it wet, which goes for all wood boards anyway.
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>>958020
Nice...is that pine?
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>>958041
Maybe ill try that one of these days
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>>958048
Its actually not as noticible as i thought it was gonna be...its gonna be fine. Gonna finish after work. Should have an end product tonight.
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Sanded and squared. Rounding the edges 1/8".
Time for a finish sanding...
Random orbital 120...then to 150.....maybe 220. I'll see how it feels after 150.
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>>958144
Looking good.
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All thats left is to oil and put rubber feet on.
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>>958186
Naw man.

What kind of counter-top are you going to place it on? You might want to look in the cabinet section for small rubber bumpers usually put on cabinet doors and drawers to keep the wood from clacking together really loudly. They're inexpensive and with the right rubber, they'll be grippy enough for professional use on most surfaces.

Consider adding a blood channel to the outer perimeter of the cutting surface on one side. Also, if you've got the tools and know-how, how about a router cut handle in the side since its so tall. Other than that, its a really good minimalistic board. good work!

Weld up a branding stamp and brand it your own.
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>>958186
Solid work. Would cut stuff on it.
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good job OP, thanks for sharing
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>>958196
For sure....i spotted some online earlier on my lunch break.

Thanks guys...ill be posting the oiling results later tonight
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Before and after. Heated the oil in a small pan. Its sucking it up like a sponge.
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>>958238
>Shot of laxative, beer chaser.
Having a rough week OP?
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>>958243
Its my hangover cure ;)
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>>958238
Looks fantastic OP.

I use a mineral oil/beeswax mixture that I heat up in a double boiler. Works good on cutting boards.
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>>958247
I have this stuff...i was thinkibg of doing a mixture for the final coating.
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>>958084
Yes, I'm a bit poor and this is my first go, so I didn't want to drop a lot on hard wood. Plus I'm not actually planning to cut on it dirctly. So I figured untreated pine should work just fine.
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>>958535
Nothing wrong with that. I wish I had a place of my own to fix up. In an apartment atm.

>board is still sucking up oil
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>>958702
Yeah I'm in a townhouse and the landlords said they didn't care if I did some "minor" wood working project. So since I'm single and don't need a den but I have no garage... indoor wood shop.

Just planed the bottom to get it level, not nice but level. Tomorrow I'll sand the top and stain it.
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>>958724
>stain it.
Why? It's a cutting board even if it's made from pine.
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>>958726
He said earlier he wasnt going to cut on it.
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>>958724
Post pics bro
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>>957447
Just curious, buts what is the purpose of this cut? Is it purely aesthetic?
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>>958760
Its to turn the grain vertically. Easier on the edge of a knife.
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>>958760
When the knife slices through the ends of the grain it doesn't harm the wood as much as cutting across the grain. Cuts will seal up better and be much harder to prevent deep cuts. The cutting boards and block tables are usually very thick too. This allows them to be resanded after lots and lots of use. They can last many generations if properly taken care of even when being used constantly.
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>>958818
This triggers me to belt sand.
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>>958868
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>>958888
Hnnnnggggggg.
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>>958888
I'm always impressed that the price of these things are absurd.

Brand New: $500 range
Antique: $1,500 range

Butchers Table: $1k to $10k

This one is $5,950.
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>>959057
How the hell do you glue this shit together fast enough?

I know all the old stuff used hide glue, so that would be really simply. However, stuff like Titebond 1-2 have only a 5 min open air time while Titebond 3 has only a 10 min open air time.

I think it'd take me longer than 10 mins to apply the glue and get everything clamped together. I'd have to practice over and over every step I'd be taking and time myself to make sure I could do it before even trying it with glue.

I guess having helpers would do it though.
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>>959058
In sections?
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>>959065
There's always a chance that the clamping pressure on the already completed piece might compromise their integrity. It is always best to do the entire thing in one go. With small stuff like the board in >>958041 you can chance it, but with a massive butchers table, I'd never risk it no matter what anyone says.
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>>959058
I assume as master woodworkers become as skilled as they are, they work a lot faster than you. Its like a professional mechanic could swap a tire in 5 minutes, whereas it may take you 20 minutes.
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>>958818
>This allows them to be resanded after lots and lots of use. They can last many generations if properly taken care of even when being used constantly.

I've got 4 really thick cutting boards from flea markets/goodwill/ etc and sanded them down and flattened them. After applying the finish they were like brand new.

Keep an eye out for them because good quality end grain hardwood bards are pretty expensive. People with no skills just toss them when they think they're "worn out".
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>>956483
I too thought it was literally a thread about cutting wood to size
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>>956466
here is one i just made for a client. get creative with the cutting boards
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>>959270
she wanted stripes instead of the checker board
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>>959271
that is his name in morse code in the front. here is one for a friends wedding present and my kitchen table is underneath. i use the table saw to break down stock then hand plane all of them to square and finial size, i love my hand tools. try buying some bees wax and mixing it with the mineral oil. i heat mine up in a small crock pot then apply it
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>>959270
>>959271
>>959273
Pretty awesome.
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>>959326
Thank you
I make about 20 a year and donate to local charities for their fund raising auctions. They all usually sale pretty good. It's nice to get complimented for your work but it's even better to know that it goes to help out the challenged.
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