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I'm thinking about building a shed that looks something like the pic, but not as complicated (it will be smaller, and only have one floor).

I have never built anything remarkable before, but I do feel capable of building a simple shed like this. I have a few questions though:

1. I want the wood to be of darker type to give that comfy lumber house look. What wood is good for this? I'm talking price and quality here (don't want anything that's going to rot in a year or two).

2. I want the shed to be comfy to hang out in during the winter as well. I'm thinking about buying styrofoam boards about 2-3 cm thick to put between the walls as insulation. I will of course have a heating fan inside the shed, but insulation is good as well.

3. How to make a door? Or should I just buy one? The door is probably my biggest concern at this moment.

Any help is appreciated. And no, I am not building a "cuck shed".
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>>920090
What kind of budget do you have?

Keep in mind that using any type of wood other than pine becomes very expensive, very quickly.

Personally I'd frame it with whatever studs you can find for cheap in the walls, use 2x6 yellow pine for the ceiling and floor joists and insulate the walls/ceiling/floor. R13 insulation in the walls, R19 bare minimum in the floors/ceiling. 2x4 studs costs like 2.50 at Lowes for an 8 footer.

Use something like wood beadboard panelling on the inside, maybe some rough-sawn barn siding on the outside and then trim all the corners/seams with 1x4s and then treat it all somehow... some type of stain/sealer combo.

As for doors... it's /diy/, go get a solid wooden door and frame it yourself. If you feel super intimidated by that, go spend the 100-ish dollars to go get a regular metal external door. Rough opening is usually 37 1/2 inches wide by 81 1/2 inches high.
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>>920093
>What kind of budget do you have?
I am willing to buy raw material for ~$600, perhaps more if I need to buy a door. I am not sure if I will install a window yet.

>Keep in mind that using any type of wood other than pine becomes very expensive, very quickly.
Will keep that in mind.

>go get a solid wooden door and frame it yourself. If you feel super intimidated by that, go spend the 100-ish dollars to go get a regular metal external door
I will most likely not buy a metal door. I want a wooden shed.

Thanks for the tips, anon! I will keep your post in mind. Here is another shed which looks somewhat like what I'm after, but with a small porch added to it.
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>>920098
>>920093
Same poster, with a little more input.

Since you want to do a wooden door, you might want to get an idea of what kind of door you want.

Solid wooden doors are also pretty expensive, so you could make a wood door out of boards like pic related but it would have near zero insulation value. Plus, framing a door to where it has a decent fit and wouldn't leak air all around it is very difficult unless you're a really competent carpenter.

Same with windows... very hard to make your own windows unless you're a very competent carpenter, and windows are usually pretty reasonably priced for smaller ones. (Like 25 dollars for a 2x2 window.)

Trim is also pretty good at hiding mistakes you'll end up making when cutting windows in the siding etc, and spray foam will make sure that they don't mess up your insulation value.
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>>920102
Thanks for the help.

The insulation is not that important since I will have a heating fan inside, but I will want some form of insulation so I won't have to run the fan constantly. I am not a competent carpenter, but I am good with details and I can plan my moves very well.
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I built a similar thing for my kids in the backyard and kept the cost way down by using pallet wood wherever possible. It takes effort to break them up, and it has its own quirks but it's basically free building material.
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A cuck shed?
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>>920110
It's just a /pol/ joke.
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Enjoy your neighbors bitching to the county and being fined for building codes and laws from time immemorial
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>>920132
The shed will not be visible to my neighbors. I live in the countryside(ish).
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>>920134
I think if it's free-standing then you don't need building permits, check on that. You could build it on wheels and with a trailer hitch and turn signals/brake lights and really make an argument that it's designed to be portable and therefore not subject to building permits or inspections.
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Why don't you post on /int/ and get the help of a swede?
I heard they're the best at building these kinds of sheds
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>>920107
>exposing your kids to arsenic and other fun chemicals
You're a terrible parent.
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>>920183
Yes, we just made a new allowance for houses up to 24m^2, up from 15 and it's now permitted to have water and sewers. This improved cuck-shed is known as the Attefall house after the minister in charge of the change. Googling "Attefall" might yield something that, with the help of Google translate, could be useful.
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>>920134
build it on top of some cinderblocks so it can be moved and you can tell them its not a permanent structure if the country comes bitching
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>>920102
>very competent carpenter
>feels good bruh
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>>920222
OP here, I was thinking about building it on cinder blocks. I will probably not move it, but I want to be able to if I decide to. Also, checked
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>>920237
My mom is dating a guy who's been renovating houses and building stuff for like 40 years.

That dude can make any fucking thing and makes it look easy. So I'm like hey, let me try making some of the stuff he has.

Nope, that 40 years makes him an infinite amount more competent at it than I am.
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Can anyone estimate the room area of this shed here >>920098 ?

Also, how much would it cost to build a shed just like that, but without windows?
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>>920560
>how much would it cost
same guy here, I mean material-wise. I will build it all by myself if I can get my hands on everything I need first.
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>>920560
>>920564
Shed looks to be 6x8 feet, so the square footage would be like 48 square feet. Average height of around 5'6" would put the cubic volume at somewhere around 264 cubic feet.

As for costs material-wise, it looks like it might be fairly costly because it uses lap siding made out of wood (1x6's maybe?). If you were going to make it right using 2x3 studs with no windows, using 2x4s to frame the bottom (because we're being cheap as shit), and just a roll of roof felt on the top (because that's literally what it looks like they are using on the roof)...

You could probably get away with 20 2x3 studs, maybe 8 2x4 studs (for floors and for ceiling), maybe 7 sheets of siding, 2 sheets of 15/32 plywood, (for roof), 23/32 plywood (for floor) and 1 roll of roofing felt.

2x3 studs = 2.20 per x 20 = 44.00
2x4 studs = 2.50 per x 8 = 20.00
11/32 siding with 4 inch OC grooves = 22.00 per x 7 = 154.00
15/32 plywood = 15.00 per x 2 = 30
23/32 plywood = 20.00 per x 2 = 40
roofing felt = 15.95 x 1


Since you're at it, might as well put actual fucking shingles on the thing since a bundle with 24 pieces would cover it and only cost around 27 dollars.

Figure in screws and roofing nails and you'll be sitting around 500 dollars if you build this yourself. That's not including insulation.
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>>920573
Thanks for your input, I appreciate it!
I'm thinking about buying something like this for the roof, it's a bit more expensive than roofing felt but it's 10x better (and comfier, especially during rain). But I'll think about shingles as well.
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OP here, something like this is pretty close to what I am looking to build. Perhaps a tiny bit smaller (it's hard to see in the pic), and the door will be a bit simpler.
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>>920555
yeah 40 years is a career for sure
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The darker wood problem could be solved with stains and finishing. Depending on how cold it gets, styrofoam may not be enough for insulation.
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>>920688
It can get as cold as -20° where I live, but that problem can easily be solved with a portable radiator. Or if I just buy some yellow fiberglass cotton insulation (whatever the hell it's called in english).
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>>920090
> I want the wood to be of darker type to give that comfy lumber house look. What wood is good for this? I'm talking price and quality here (don't want anything that's going to rot in a year or two).

Depending on the material I would go check out Craigslist. A lot of locals selling, and the free ads are worth checking out, it where I found a bunch of free plywood pallets, furniture, doors, and windows.
>>920098
> I am willing to buy raw material for ~$600, perhaps more if I need to buy a door. I am not sure if I will install a window yet.

Go to flea markets, antique stores, and resale shops alone with the local ads from craigslist. From a local farmer I picked up 2 nice sized solid wood doors, 1 I used as my main door, the other became a desk for the cabin and it cost me $10 a door.
>>920105
The insulation is not that important since I will have a heating fan inside, but I will want some form of insulation so I won't have to run the fan constantly. I am not a competent carpenter, but I am good with details and I can plan my moves very well.
I would invest in a wood burning stove and buy some flashing. Use as little electricity as possible. They run about $75 to $150 used, and are great for cooking and add a lot of appeal.

I highly sugest you do a lot of research at the exact size and measure the total surface area for the building and roof. It will give you a rough guess at to how much of what material you will need.

>>920635
Depending on how many people want to use that cabin I would suggest a 12x12 or so.
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>>921143
>I would invest in a wood burning stove
OP here, I have thought about that, but I don't believe I'm capable enough to install one. If I knew how (experience preferred) I would most likely do it.
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>>920105
The insulation is very important.
My tiny ice fishing shack doesn't need to be heated at all, since it's insulated. I can sit all day in jeans and a tshirt and not get cold.

A well insulated shack will hold in heat, reducing heating costs significantly.
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>>921208
Cut out a hole in the roof, and use chimney pipe. Literally the hardest part of installing a wood stove it's moving the damn thing.
Jesus, you really do need a cuckshed.
Why don't you ask your wife's boyfriend to build the damn thing for you.
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reminder

http://cabinporn.com/
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>>920205
Pallets are made from oak and are by law untreated wood. Good try tho m8.
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What is a "cuck shed"? What am I missing here?
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>>921243
I think the point was that used pallets have been used to transport stuff. Stuff that might have spilled and contaminated the pallets. Or the pallets could have been set down on a previous spill. Or any other sort of misadventure because pallets tend to get around.

>>921260
/pol/ meme. Do you really want to know?
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>>921272
No the point is that if they're used for international shipping, or even sometimes purely domestic, they douse the fuckers in enough pesti- and fungicide to genocide a small nation. Which he's then exposing his children to, because he's a stupid motherfucker who doesn't want to spend a hundred bucks' worth of lumber to build one from pine or some shit.
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>>921260
>>920110
https://warosu.org/diy/thread/S910680
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_QMJALct4

Pretty good little series.
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make this senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE
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>>921283
Shannon is god tier when it comes to constructing. His vids are all good info.
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