>It seems that the objective of Harley Quinn is to please hormonal teenage comic book geeks by making her outfits skimpier and to sell a bunch of Hot Topic T-shirts. She is a consistent cosplay choice at most comic conventions. It honestly upsets me every time I hear someone say they want to be like Harley because she is badass. It upsets me even worse when they say they want a relationship just like Joker and Harley. It shows they don't know what they are talking about and that they completely missed the point of her. Domestic violence is a dumb thing that exists, but the hard reality is that it does exist. Harley Quinn was made with the best of intentions and those intentions have now been squandered by the culture we now live in.
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/the-over-sexualization-of-harley-quinn
I saw this article all over my facebook today. A lot of mixed reactions. Discuss.
>>84546401
Today I learned that only harmonal teenagers comic geeks like Harley. Which is why she's constantly displayed by grown women at conventions!
>>84546401
Damn it that is so close to the right proportions for the banner contest.
>>84546401
over sexualizing doesn't exist. A key component of sexuality is visualizing your partner. They're just using the most basic part of human brain to sell shit.
People that have arguments against this are usually ugly or have some in-grained bias to start with that has nothing to do with what they're talking about.
Stop making bait threads.
>>84546471
>Oh and that Suicide Squad movie will be out soon.
>Better capitalize on it with some shitty "whiny" bullshit to get clicks!
>>84546499
>in-grained
10/10
>It honestly upsets me every time I hear someone say they want to be like Harley because she is badass. It upsets me even worse when they say they want a relationship just like Joker and Harley. It shows they don't know what they are talking about and that they completely missed the point of her.
The thing is, though, lots of females would like to be in an abusive relationship with a charming asshole. Lots.
I can't even blame them, because my ex was pretty abusive with me. She only emotionally, but physically as well, and despite knowing i shouldn't i still miss her. Sometimes i catch myself caressing the scars she left in my body while thinking fondly of her. It's fucked up, but we've have fucked up brains.
>>84546499
Over sexualizing is just shorthand for flamboyantly sexual representing. Don't get your ass tied in a knot, anon.
>>84546663
>my boyfriend beats me but I dress up in leather and hot topic so I'm actually a strong womens!
>plenty of dudes are more than glad to take advantage of this
Harley fangirls are beyond fucked. At least ignorance is bliss.
>>84546727
Usually the people in abusive relationship, that is, the victim, think of themselves as the emotional pillar of the relationship. They pity their abusive partners, thinking that it is their duty to take the beating and hold on and be strong to keep them together. They see themselves as a survivor and the better partner.
>>84546499
>oversexualizing doesn't exist
yes it does
oversexualizing isn't just a thing that women hate, men can hate shitty character whose sex appeal is so played up that it's actually not sexy at all
>>84546803
That partially describes Harley. She stays with Joker because she believes she can make him a better person, but at the same time admires his genius. Unfortunately she'll never keep his interest because Joker's more passionate about batcock than clowncock.
>>84546401
>WAAAAAAAHHHHH WHY CAN'T ALL WOMEN WEAR BURKAS??!!!!!
Liberals are so autistic.
This is why we deserve stuff like Nice to happen.
Because we let Liberals cuck society.
I wish WW3 would happen already.
>>84546401
>Harley Quinn was made with the best of intentions
What does this mean?
>people who describe Joker and Harley with things like relationship goals
![philmoybatman[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dpSItNd.jpg "philmoybatman[1].jpg")
Bruce Timm does DC better than anyone else.
Another Disney payed article, just before the Suicide Squad movie come to the theaters. Disney/Marvel, your propaganda becomes disgusting at this point and pathetically predictable
>>84547251
>That episode where Harley and Ivy spend Christmas as lesbians
way to rob Harley of her agency shitlords!
>>84547084
>>84547084
Um...so we are just supposed to forget all the Right Wingers trying to curb anything remotely fun for years as well albeit for slightly different reasons.
Some literally who has a retarded opinion?! This is an outrage!!
>>84547084
This is the craziest shit i've read all day.
>>84546871
Yes we call those men gay and/or nutless.
>>84547396
#rekt
>>84547216
That the writer doesn't know what he's talking about. Paul Dini was a 30+ year old vacuous actress-chasing virgin when he created her.
>x is too sexual
duly noted and ignored
>>84547084
That's easy as butter to say when you most likely live in a place where the shit won't even come close to the fan.
>>84547296
Everybody on both sides have become ultra sensitive about everything.
>>84547296
I agree with you,but most outlets take the crazy part of Left Wing more seriously now,once they figure out that clowns like Anita are just as insane as people like Glen Beck it may stop.But yes that guy you're responding to is insane.
>>84547396
>wanting many different types of sexy not just mainstream sexy
>nutless or gay
You sure they're the ones gay or with low sex drive anon? I don't want to fuck a living mannequin.
>>84547235
theres a couple at my university that does this and it makes me want to throw up
>written by a man
Always funny.
>>84547235
>Not having Harley & Ivy as relationship goals
What's wrong with those people!?
>>84547599
>I don't want to fuck a living mannequin.
what kinda faggot are you?
>>84546540
>whiny bullshit
But the reasons just quoted here is the exact same shit /co/ bitches about happening to her. Only thing off is forgetting to mention its the women that help drive the whorley personality.
She was more appealing when she actually looked like a harlequin. The Hot Topicization is an attempt at getting normalfags into the character.
It might also be because they wanted her to look less like Deadpool who has black and red as his color scheme while they built up her as a company counterpart to him. Instead of Ambush Bug who could've used some of the levity and depth that Deadpool has.
More likely it's just a hamfisted attempt at movie pandering, similar to
justice League origin or the New 52's creation.
>>84547599
Your loss mate.
>>84547216
She really wasn't
>>84547396
enjoy your granny porn, brazzers
>>84546401
she's completely correct, dc's constant pushing of harley and joker as a couple is stupid, and the fact that we're now seeing stories where harley is a strong independant woman, and stories where the joker actually loves her, is just another sign of a good story being warped for commercialization
>>84548012
Lel what?
>>84546401
Some people agree with this, some people don't.
>>84548051
>she
to be fair, Harley's original outfit is still the best, and every Arkham shit costume is garbage
>>84548120
i'm not going to click on shit just to see who wrote the article
>>84547778
The kind that thinks classic Harley is hotter than bullshit Margot Harley, clearly.
>>84548104
>>84548302
I actually really enjoyed Harley's solo comics from the early 2000s
>>84548361
Those were really good
>>84547831
/co/ has been bitching about Harley being sexualized?
>>84548104
Where's this from?
>>84547760
>Not having Harley & Ivy as relationship goals
That would just be trading one abusive, manipulative relationship for another.
>>84546401
I always thought that Harley used her sexuality as a weapon? Or maybe that's just how I've justified her hyper-sexulisation in my head.I do miss TAS Harley costume ;_;
>>84548386
I'm starting to pick up the trades. Is it still any good after Karl Kesel leaves writing duties?
>>84548532
Wasn't that just a plant monster Ivy made for Harley so she wouldn't be lonely?
>>84548595
Its still good, maybe a wee bit less,but i still enjoyed it,it gets a little darker and more violent.
>>84548595
Yep. It gets a crime noir style to it, no more metas or anything like Kesel though, it gets more grounded
>>84548532
Only Dini write them like that, and even he doesn't write them like that all the time, example pic related
I always thought she was undersexualized.
>>84546401
Cuck article by SJWs. Not even reading it.
>>84548302
Is this a joke?
>>84548532
..go on? You can't leave it like that anon.
>"Gwenpool is an original idea"
Checkmate, Gwencucks.
>>84549279
I dunno, it is?
To be fair, I don't really understand her appeal beyond her tits, either.
>>84549303
>>84549510
>>84549528
>You're only here because I need you to breathe
relationship goals indeed.
>>84549510
>you will never bandage an unconscious Harley's tits
>>84549563
>>84549667
>>84549667
>>84549688
>>84549563
Yep, relationship goals
>>84548104
Jesus, that top quote looks like something out of a middle school girl's diary.
>>84549563
Thanks anon. That was cute, if a bit lacking in detail and with progression issues. I wanted a tsundere not-apology from Ivy for poisoning her.
>I need you to breath
Gosh, subtext: the comic.
>>84549563
Can I get the comic? All I'm getting are blogs and some clickbait sites.
>>84550026
Is a backup story from Batman Adventures v2
>>84548583
Oldest excuse, lol
Shes supposed to be insane like the joker. Like, of course shes sexy and fit, but people are supposed to be like "If only she didnt look like a homicidal clown, then maybe..."
Not supposed to ACTUALLY get your wish, her no longer looking like she has anything to do with the Joker.
Hey, why not just give her a cheerleader outfit and some pom poms? THERES an original character. Dont want her to be TOO FREAKY....
I'm mixed on Harley in general. Sure, she has become one of Batman's most recognizable rogues, and as a man she does good things for my peen.
That and her subtext turned text with Ivy. But I don't understand her break-out and rise to prominence to the point she has several ongoings, a large role in Injustice, AND now is practically the star of her own movie (which just so happens to be only the third DCEU release thus far.)
It's slightly baffling. I still find her little more than slightly entertaining in the same way my clownish friend is. In small doses, she can be fun, but as she lingers she just gets annoying.
>>84550085
Ty anon, would you guys recommend Batman Adventures as a whole?
>>84546401
>Harley Quinn was made with the best of intentions and those intentions have now been squandered by the culture we now live in.
What intentions are we talking about here? Was Harley intended to be some kind of warning to girls to not become a mentally unstable turboslut who chases after a toxic and abusive relationship?
>>84550552
Only Volume 1 (which is based in early BTAS). Volume 2 is shit
>I will never be able to kidnap Harley Quinn and then rape her in front of the Joker while he laughs it off
damn
>>84550600
If she is, it didn't work...
>>84548852
Wait. Is that a picture of Supergirl?
>>84551684
Yep
>>84547251
Oh yeah, I remember that rocket-themed villain.
You guys rant more about SJWs than my 38 year old father in law who still goes out drinking and thinks fighting black guys and watching guys fuck his wife for coke is cool.
>>84552272
>Forgetting the first female orgasm shown in a kids cartoon
https://youtu.be/TajaOpV9fBQ
>>84548419
tumblr
>>84549279
Nope. It's what they actually published and it was intended to be taken 100% seriously
It was back when DC went all in on the SJW bandwagon
I'm pretty sure they got 90% of it out of their system now so we should be Gucci from here on out
>>84546471
Along with other characters that show lots of cleavage/skin. It's almost like men like boobs and women like attention and the relationship is mutually beneficial. But no, some people just can't accept that.
>>84552374
w-what
>>84552855
Don't lie to anon like that, you will give him a heart attack and a aneurysm
>>84546401
>It seems that the objective of Harley Quinn is to please hormonal teenage comic book geeks
The only thing that bothers me here is that once again comic fans are getting the blame when it's clearly fans of the Arkham games and deranged women ho want this Harley
>>84546401
>She is a consistent cosplay choice at most comic conventions
This is the one point that matters.
They're making Harley easier to cosplay for attention-starved sluts who don't read comics but effectively function as booth babes that PAY YOU to help boost event sales through sex appeal.
the odyssey online will literally publish your 16 year old sister with too much time a laptop and a starbucks visit.
on the topic though, I agree that harley has been oversexualized. Lots of Bat's rogues get misinterpreted, look at the the joker for god's sake.
>>84546401
Holy fuck, how is current Harley Quinn men's fault? All of her new comics are made to appeal to women, this idiot doesn't know what she's talking about.
>>84546401
OP pic is hot as fuck.
>>84547453
God that was such a good read.
>>84555193
I was going to say, her outfit in the comics right now is basically like a football outfit or something, isn't it?
and try to find any male comic fan who likes Harley post-BTAS
>>84546401
I'm not clicking that link, but let me guess, a guy wrote it
>>84549510
>I ain't felt this bad since Mista J made me wear the Pinata Suit
Well shit, new fetish acquired. Now I want to dress a girl as a pinata then suspend her up and beat her with a stick.
>>84556820
You're going to need to prepare the shell in advance, and have some papier-mâché on hand to seal it around her.
Do it torso, limbs, head, hands and feet.
Then study some ropework so you can suspend her with the pressure displaced evenly and have it aesthetically pleasing.
And of course, something to suspend her from.
Finally, you need a whiffle ball bat so you can smack her without hurting her.
I recommend making the torso a bit larger then the subject so that she'll have room to breathe, and more importantly, room to fill it up with candy.
>>84547296
It's called the political pendulum. Right now it's liberals fucking things up with their Pc bullshit. But don't worry; conservatives will take that mantle back do you can have a turn bitching about things.
>>84547296
Welcome to the horseshoe.
The right will tell you this shit is degeneracy.
The left will tell you it's problematic and sexualizing women.
It gets rounder by the day I fucking swear.
>>84546401
>Women shouldn't be allowed to have weird fantasies
Women like JokerXHarley for the same reason they like EdwardXBella, or Mr GreyXwhat'sherface, they like the idea of being in a "damned" relationship where they're the clean one while the partner is somehow damaged (kek). Maybe they like the idea of "fixing" the monster a la The Beauty and the beast, maybe they like the idea of being fucked up together against the world, or the idea of being the only thing they're weird partner can love (these last two kinda fit Harley and Joker)... nothing unusual really, the author wouldn't complain about this if it wasn't for a personal misconception about how Harley should be stronk and independent
And let's not act like men don't have similar fantasies
I mean, if this shit is problematic then BDSM is literally Hitler tier
yeah sure
>>84558288
*their weird partner
As some one who lives in Muslim country, "over-sexualization "is empowering to women. Harly shows her freedom by wearing what ever she want ."over-sexualization" is a shitty term used by salafist when they see a women wearing jeans in tv .
>>84546663
>I can't even blame them, because my ex was pretty abusive with me. She only emotionally, but physically as well, and despite knowing i shouldn't i still miss her. Sometimes i catch myself caressing the scars she left in my body while thinking fondly of her.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w59ghjATu20
>>84548852
I want to have sexual relations with her bum
>>84547991
This wasn't her first appearance.
>>84558449
First comic appearance
Her first appearance ever was just "blonde henchgirl helps Joker do crimes"
>>84546401
>Why does a crazy woman who's in love with a psychotic clown dress like a slut
>>84558288
After Fifty Shades of Grey it may as well be Hitler-tier for your average Joe.
Fuck that shitty, unreadable Twilight fanfiction for essentially demonizing BDSM crowd even more.
>>84558236
I think we should accept that the idea of a "political left" and a "political right" are really just a fiction based on purely superficial differences. There's liberalism and authoritarianism and everything else is practically window dressing.
>>84547296
The point is that it's the same bullshit think with another skin. That's the redpill /pol/ is never willing to take.
>>84546401
The main problem here is:
>Comics are for kids.
>kids believe everything
>That's why this shouldn't exists.
>>84546401
>because she is badass
>>84546401
I like old Harley better but for the opposite reason.
Sluts are not attractive to me. Fapping to sluts feels like falling for advertising. That's why my /co/ waifus are more like special interest.
>>84547251
Yeah, I guess those 60 year before Bruce Timm showed up never happened. DC was never good before that point.
