They got popular.
Josh Whedon poisoned the well.
Avengers was a peice of shit that was shot uglier than 95% of tv shows.
>>84468526
are you talking about the MCU?
I think they started to walk the wrong path with Iron Man 3. With the exception of the Winter Soldier of course.
>>84468526
Thor was bad and Avengers was bad
They didn't.
Is this one of those "it's popular so we must hate it" things?
>>84468526
Right there in the letter V.
>>84468646
reminder than if you think Star Wars 7 was even passable, your opinion is worthless.
Think long and hard before replying to me.
>>84468622
Bingo.
Holy shit did The Avengers look bad, but it made zillions of dollars so Marvel realised they needn't put any effort into it whatsoever.
>>84468698
reminder that star wars 7 is one of the only two good star wars movies.
>>84468526
I will fight your bait with more bait
They didn't. The main white characters are still white and nobody has been replaced with a woman or a minority yet.
>>84468526
The movies are better than the current comics
>>84468646
No its /tv/ shitposters. They got tired of spamming BVS IS KINO so now theyre doing WHAT WENT WRONG
>>84468734
But episode 5 is good anon.
>>84469192
Yeah, that's the other one.
>>84468526
Thor. Took me right out of their little universe and I've been really disinterested in their movies ever since.
>>84469179
So I see we are in the denial stage, eh?
More and more Marvel films continue to make less profit and less profit, and you think there is nothing wrong with this?
>>84468526
>>84468622
This. I really didn't like the Avengers movies, I have no idea why they are so well liked. And they ruined any chance of their "overarcing universe" because
>no X-Men, Magneto
>no Fantastic Four
>Quicksilver is fast enough to catch bullets... with his body
>no daredevil or punisher (show isn't same universe as movies)
>>84469309
Captain America 3 made 400 million more than Captain America 2.
A movie about fucking Ant-Man made half a billion.
I really doubt they'll make Avengers 1 money ever again because Avengers 1 was the first of it's kind, the first superhero team up, the hype was like nothing i've ever seen even up to this day.
They won't make more than Avengers 1, but we are talking about a movie that made 1.5 billion.
>>84468622
Who cares, only virgins care about cinematography.
>>84469410
>Captain America 3
*Avengers 3
>>84469455
And called Captain America.
If Civil War was called Iron Man or Avengers, it would have made a couple hundred million more.
Hell, in a fuckload of parts of Europe it wasn't even called Captain America, but The First Avenger.
>>84469309
Kill yourself faggot and your company wars bullshit
>>84468622
It's not like superhero movies have ever had decent cinematography.
Apart from Nolan's trilogy, I don't think I can recall anyone.
Maybe Tim Burton's Batman?
But not much.
The last blockbuster franchise with good, consistent cinematography was Pirates of the Caribbean.
I'd like to say James Bond since Skyfall was beautiful, but the franchise is all over the place.
>>84469313
>no daredevil or punisher (show isn't same universe as movies)
Yes it is.
>>84469537
prove it
>>84469545
One of the episodes of the first season of Daredevil, there's a newspaper talking about the Chitauri invasion in Avengers 1.
>>84469522
One inarguable fack is that Zack makes stylish films.
>>84469522
Raimi Man and to a lesser extent Singer Men look pretty good.
>>84469309
Civil War made a billion. I guess in DC terms thats failing.
>>84469569
He had a unique style, as seen in 300, Sucker Punch and Watchmen, but it was completely diluted after MoS.
Plus, both MoS and BvS show how he hasn't still moved on completely from his past as music video director, and you can sometimes see that he thinks first of ''cool'' shots and then writes around them, instead of just letting the film flow organically.
Hell, the entire future sequences in BvS were blatantly made to make cool shots and to put those scenes in the trailer.
Not to mention that, for some reason, there's a huge lack of stablishing shots, which are the best time for cinematography to shine.
>>84469640
????
MoS>BvS>Watchmen
In terms of cinematoghraphy.
You're right that MoS was music video esque, but BvS was pretty restrained shot wise.
>>84468526
Nothing, they discovered what people like in movies: characters.
They managed to build a franchise out of characters that people like, and considering this franchise is 8 years old, there's already a lot of people that grew up with Iron Man, Cap and the others, just like people here grew up reading about them in comics.
If you make characters that people like, you already succeeded, because people won't care that much about the plot, they'll just want to see those characters doing things.
Pirates of the Caribbean was a success because of Jack Sparrow, X-Men in movies has always been popular because of Wolverine, and the MCU itself only exists because people liked Tony Stark, and now because they like Cap.
>>84469801
>movies are technically shit so better play the characterfag card
>>84469842
>movies are technically shit
What do you mean?
>>84469854
Music (with exeptions) cinematography, tone, script etc...
>>84469898
>Music (with exeptions) cinematography, tone
Nobody cares about these.
>script
It's a superhero movie, of course the plot is absolute garbage, they all are.
>>84469537
It's the same universe, but it isn't really important because they're never going to mention them in the movies. It's all a one way street, and the movie people don't give a fuck.
>>84469938
So?
They are still there.
They are just in TV shows.
>>84469927
>Nobody cares about these.
Not actively, but they do matter and can influence whether or not someone enjoys watching a movie.
>>84470009
Who cares about that?
Only the regards at /tv/
>>84470009
Believe me, it's all about the characters when talking about blockbusters.
If people don't like the characters, they'll shit on them.
BvS had decent cinematography, they had Hans Zimmer himself doing the soundtrack, and they still shat on it because they didn't like Superman and Batman being pricks.
>>84470092
>>84469479
>>84469321
This board provides some very thoughtful posts.
>>84470081
*because it wasn't "fun"
ftfy
>>84468766
>this pic
good bait, I'm biting
Hulk could beat both.
Thor could beat both.
>>84470117
That's another one, it's joyless.
Nobody wants to watch a dumb superhero movie and come out of the theatre wanting to kill himself because everyone is a prick and everything is depressive.
>>84468526
I don't think they did? They're making lots of money and I'm going to go see everything they're churning out.
>>84470081
BvS was just wasn't salvageable.
>>84470117
AKA because they don't have likeable characters.
Those people complaining about ''fun'' are complaining they don't get to watch characters they like doing stuff.
The Dark Knight, pretty serious movie, liked, in the end, because of the Joker.
>>84470123
Laser guns are standard SHIELD equipment, any goober can take out those jobbers.
>>84470123
>Thor and Hulk could beat people who can perceive actions taking place over a fraction of a second when they were children, and as adults have enough power to destroy a planet with a finger
This is what capefags actually believe
>>84468766
And then they had to fuse and make Gogeta go Super Saiyan 4 to beat them since their biggest power is jobbing.
>>84470210
Goku can be taken out by a mook with a laser gun. This is a fact.
>>84468622
>>84468699
I'm curious. When did we start hating the Avengers?
>>84470252
Around the time the "capekino" meme became a thing?
>>84470252
>we
wew lad
>>84470252
When people decided to rewatch it and got over the novelty of it being the first super hero team up movie.
>>84470252
When the MCU got popular.
>>84470252
It was good for it's time but after repeated viewings it's flaws start showing
>>84470252
It doesn't hold up to repeat viewings. This is a common problem with many MCU films such as Cap 3, GOTG, Ant-Man, Thor, etc.
>>84470235
When he lets his guard down, sure
but if he's focused there's nothing Hulk or Thor or any capefag hero (save for broken bullshit like Phoenix or something) could do to him
>>84470341
He still gets hurt by been knocked into a cliff and making a small crater in Super. Humans were able to get the drop on Goku black. I think they can manage.
>>84470341
>>84470378
Can't Thor and Hulk just take the fight to space and just let the void kill at least Vegeta who can't teleport out?
>>84470388
pls be in London
>>84470388
I want you to get aids.
>>84470378
Hitting the cliff isn't what really hurt him, it's the blow from whoever he's fighting. The earth breaking against him tickles by comparison
I'm not up to date on Black in super but super's been pretty bullshit anyhow, why should that be any different?
>>84470415
Thor and Hulk would never do that, it's not how they kill. and even if they tried Vegeta would break their hold effortlessly and blast them back
>>84470538
>and even if they tried Vegeta would break their hold effortlessly
lol
>>84469455
> Avengers 3
Iron Man 5
>There's an actual, honest to God power level discussion involving Dragon Ball Z in this thread
How did I end up in 2006 DeviantArt?
>>84470538
>and even if they tried Vegeta would break their hold effortlessly and blast them back
Just like how Raditz broke Goku's hold effortlessly, right?
Powerlevels are such nonsense. Let's end this here.
>>84469240
I'm in a similar boat to you but swap Thor for Iron Man 2 as the film which killed my interest in the MCU.
>>84470434
Not before you :)
>>84469217
>Implying episode 3 us bad
Nice meme
>>84470730
Fuck off Lucas.
>>84470852
no u
ROTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>eating deer feces>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TFA
>>84470924
TFA has a clearly defined protagonist.
Just because of that it's already superior to the prequels.
>>84470930
Oh, you're a Plinkettdrone.
Eat my taint.
>>84468526
MCU is 100 times better than MArvel comics
>>84470950
>Oh, you're a Plinkettdrone.
What?
>>84470930
>>84470930
Can't wait for the Plinkett review of TFA just to get cunts like you to shut up
>>84470972
Both Mike and Jim liked TFA.
>>84470964
meme
>>84470335
GotG holds up fine, I've seen it more times than other MCU movie and I enjoy it every time.
Your taste is not objective anon.
>>84470986
>he didn't watch the whole review
>>84468526
They didn't.
>>84471005
Nor is yours.
>>84471011
>>84470986
>>84470972
>>84470964
>>84470950
>unironically watching Reddit Letter Media
>>84471025
you're grammer is p bad 2beeH
They're fine for what they are. The problem is the influence they're having in the comics.
Spider-Gwen x Spider-Ben, Spider-when?
>one of the most successful and popular film franchises of all time
>"going wrong"
They've had some decent sized hiccups, but the MCU is still a powerful money printing machine.
>>84471029
I never said it was. But as long as there are people that can enjoy it multiple times (and please don't patronize me, I'm plenty discerning with my taste regardless of how it may differ from yours) you can't claim that the movies don't hold up to repeat viewings. If that was the case these movies wouldn't be nearly as successful in theaters or home releases.
>>84471040
What? RLM is /tv/ more than it is reddit. It even made it into Meme Lover 2
>>84471765
>being referenced in the sexual jew
>an accomplishment
>>84468526
Casting a Black Chick as Valkyrie, possibly casting Brie Larson as Captain Marvel, and everything about Iron Man 3.
>>84469545
Avengers 1 and the others get referenced all the time.
Part of the reason Kingon Pin is rising up so fast in the crinimal world is due to New York getting destoryed in A1.
Hulk and Thor get hinted to.
Jessica has to deal with a couple who hates all supers due to the New York battle.
More and more supers showing up is why Jessica thinks people will believe the purple man shit.
Netflix shows are just being smart unlike ABC and not trying to run with shit they have no control over.
>>84471839
I never said it was a positive thing anon
Nothing fucking went wrong for the most part.
As a major DCfag, Marvel is doing their universe so much justice whereas the DCEU is a fucking mess.
>>84468766
That's not bait, that's just a weeb jerking off his gookcuck power fantasy.
>>84472304
>it's a nigger episode
>>84472360
>It's a "racist 4channer" episode
Fuck off.
>>84469455
It's a Cap movie. If it was an Avengers one then it would have been more about the accords than Bucky.
>>84472757
Maybe you'll listen to another ape.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
>>84468766
Aren't godly space beings in the background. I see The Living Tribunal and im pretty sure The Celestials are there too.
>>84472902
I'd say it was more of a Iron Man film than anything.
Nothing personally, aside from Ultron being wasted completely and the movies not holding up on rewatches (though not a lot of modern movies do)
MCU is mostly invulnerable to Marvel Comics' constant fuckery and the Phase 3 movies are looking tight as fuck so there's plenty to look forward to in my case.
>>84468526
Replace Tony with Riri, Hulk is replaced by Captain Marvel, keep Widow, replace Cap with Sam, replace Hawkeye with a woman and that's current Marvel
>>84468526
the movies are often not as good as they could be and three of them where noticably worse than the rest
but they havent gone "wrong" YET
still drawing good audiences
main likely wrongs are either
1: make a real stinker that poisons the well
2: publish too many films in a single year more than once tiring and diluting audiences
>>84468526
1988
>>84470538
>Thor and Hulk would never do that, it's not how they kill.
Remember that time in Uncanny Avengers, where Thor fought one of the Apocalypse twins, and killed him by shoving him into a portal to deep space? You know, the "I! CARE! NOT!" page?
>>84468766
lel kid, nobody takes Superman seriously as a threat to any top tier super hero anymore. You'd be better off shilling One Meme Man as capable of soloing the Marvel universe than him.
>>84473907
There will be no failure.
Imagine a boot quipping on a human face, forever
>>84475219
Is that suppose to be a good thing?
>>84475190
*goku
>>84468586
This. Mediocrity makes them money. So why bother doing anything other than copy Iron Man and drape it over other comic adaptations?
>>84475466
no no, you were right
nobody actually thinks superman is all that powerful either
>>84470252
/tv/ hates it, not /co/.
>>84475685
>>84475190
t. triggered Marvel fan
>>84475745
What board is this again?
>>84475763
>Dragon Balls See
>Beating anyone of importance of either Marvel or Dc
>>84475671
No, I mean they got popular so 4chan has to hate them.
>>84468766
Who fucking wrote their dialogue, a sixth grader? That fucking grammar. Also why would Vegeta take the ones on the left if he's standing to the right?
>>84475982
i think you need to come to terms with the fact you have shit taste
>>84475885
/biz/
>>84468526
Pandering to people that don't read their comics.
>>84469938
Why should street level heroes be interacting with global superheroes? Me and you and the president all exist in the same universe but we don't run in similar circles.
>>84472304
>calling yourself DCfag
Kindly kill yourself lad
>>84468526
To me, the moment I realised those were comedy movies with some action instead of the opposite was at the Avengers. Precisely at the "galaga" joke.
>>84468766
Cyclops alone would easily kill Goku
>>84470288
>>84470335
What flaws?
They're on stage 2 of the popularity cycle.
