I want you to show me the worst art that you can.
There are anons on this very board who think this art "isn't that bad, it's better than Liefeld anyway xD"
>>84438539
If you think this is 'bad' instead of just mediocre, you honestly need to lurk more. You might hate the subject matter, but the art isn't where it fails, it is just a trash comic.
>>84438501
Where's that one page with Arcade from the guest artist Hellcat by some AT boarder?
Greg Land thread?
>>84438569
No, the art fails as well. If you think this isn't bad your standards are pretty damn low.
>>84438592
My standards are low and even I think that art is shit.
Art is subjective.
If Piccaso doodles a weiner dog it's just as much art as anything else he ever made.
>>84438598
Is the art really that bad?
I've seen quite a bit of this comic thanks to /co/ bitching about it, which is understandable because I remember the shitstorm from when this came out.
But art seems passable. I can identify objects and motions. It's just the faces that are so fucked.
>>84438575
>>84438569
I'm all for stylistic art and all, but not like this.
>>84438575
And Deodato.
>>84438629
You know how it goes. When famous people wear torn pants, it's fashion. When you wear torn pants, you're bum.
>>84438641
I think it's just ugly, and that's mostly the faces (which are hideous).
>>84438645
More lazy than anything, but yeah.
>>84438569
>the art isn't where it fails
surely you mean the art isn't the only place where it fails
>>84438629
I'd never seen this picture before. I thought it was something you drew in MS Paint. But my immediate reactions was still, "That's actually really good. You could probably sell that for a lot."
>>84438629
Reminds me.
>>84438629
>it's just as much art as anything else he ever made.
But that doesn't mean it's as good as everything else he's ever made
nor good period
Art isn't good simply because skilled people worked on it
That's like saying McDonald's tastes great because they sell a lot of burgers
Regardless of how you feel about the taste of McDonald's, it's an incorrect statement
>>84438641
and even then mostly the mouths. Which seems to be on purpose.
Especially when you remember that the original squirrel girl had a screwed mouth.
Long story short, moment you become exclusive/BFF with editors, you can start shitting up and nobody will care.
>>84438676
>the original squirrel girl had a screwed mouth
That still doesn't mean that the art is good
Also, HUGE PET PEEVE, the original doesn't actually look that terrible
It's literally just one panel where she looks weird and everyone is point and saying "see, she always looked like a freak"
And the fact that the original looked a certain way doesn't actually mean that every other incarnation should look that way or in the latest comic's case, just fucked up in general or that it's okay for anything to look bad because the original looked weird
>>84438501
Squirrel Girl currently isnt BAD art, I think, but in a cape comic it aint good, thats for damn sure. I wouldnt mind this art style in a slice of life with no capes.
>>84438665
Geometry and line work were Picasso's strong points.
I could never MS paint such an aesthetically pleasing wiener dog.
>>84438649
>>84438645
>>84438625
I normally never, ever read Superhero comics.
Are so many superhero comic artists really such huge hacks, that they can't do anatomy on their own without tracing and stealing?
And the ones that do their own anatomy draw horrible, disfigured, disproportionate monstrosities that make you wonder why they even continued with shading/coloring details after the initial anatomic sketches?
>>84438501
That goes beyond just "this doesn't suit my tastes." or "this is crudely drawn."
This looks deliberately unappealing. Is the artist trying to make the ugliest product they can in attempt to ward off readers?
>>84438750
No, there are plenty of good cape artists.
Land is just well known for tracing. And Liefeld is Liefeld
>>84438750
No, most is just middle-of-the-road art that serves its purpose and isn't remarkable one way or the other.
>>84438750
Liefeld is massively famous for his "art". It was nineties, he drew edgy, it was hilarious.
And Land... Land built career tracing porn and being friend with Quesada or whoever. Cronyism is the best!
>>84438750
It's not fair to generalize the entire genre for the work of two shitty artists.
>>84438699
I'm not quite sure what you mean with that page. It flows well, the opening panel is nice, and regardless of the shitty writing the art is fine, just not exceptional.
>>84439228
And compare it to Deodato's work today and him tracing Brotherhood of Steel armor, Optimus Prime's head and fucking Kate Bishop fanart.
Decent art if it were for anything other then a cape comic. I would read a webcomic done by her.
>>84438629
Art doesn't imply merit or worth. Some artist shit in a can and somebody bought his art for a large sum of money. Art is one of the most meaningless, idiotic words in existence.
>>84439336
He shit in a hundred cans and made custom labels for them. The line that creates art is drawn in effort given.
>>84438750
Yeah I dont get why some guys rely off tracing for anatomy when there are those little wooden posable mannequins. Hell im not an artist but I want one. It would be great for story boarding because Im one half of a artist writer team on a comic project, my artist didnt tell me when I signed up there is no formal comic script format and its kind of standard for writers to make very rough story boards.
winner winner chicken dinner
>>84438501
It will always make OP's pic look like a Rembrandt.
>>84438629
Have you ever nervously paced around a glove someone dropped in a museum, afraid that it might be an exhibit?
>>84439962
Moon Over June is SO bad that it boomerangs around and becomes high art
>>84439416
They're like $6 at Wal-Mart
>>84438501
I absolutely fucking despise Deodato. His "art" somehow worsens with time, it should be impossible when all you're doing is fucking tracing.
>>84438629Your subjective
>>84438629
Art is a huge joke that doesn't mean anything, which is why you should concern yourself with Craft.
Picasso was a legitimately talented draughtsman
>>84439416
>Yeah I dont get why some guys rely off tracing for anatomy when there are those little wooden posable mannequins
Because those things don't teach anatomy at all are actually completely useless due to their unnatural joints?
>>84438719
Pretty sure henderson has/is doing some Archy shit. I forget.
I hate the bitch but if you like it that'd be a good place to start.
>>84438856
hm
here i thought comics have better standards than manga
>>84438645
I kekked wholeheartedly at that HHHNNNG
>>84438575
is this traced porn?
>>84440869
What else should it be?
>>84440889
what artists traces porn for ARRGHHH faces?
>>84440907
The kind that Marvel approves.
>>84440919
Was he always tracer or once upon a time he was real artist?
>>84440935
at one point he was, but it's been so long he's forgotten
>>84440935
All I know is that he does it A LOT.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/greg-land/4040-2064/forums/greg-lands-art-why-i-hate-it-take-178-407907/
>>84440889
Boy I'd love to know who was used here
>>84438501
someone should establish bedrock here
>>84441063
What is he up to these days?
>>84441250
Making sure you know Sonic's arms are not blue.
>>84438539
TO be fair, it is better than Liefeld.
>>84441477
Not really. Liefeld's art in Covenant is actually passable.
>>84438501
>>84438501
That's not even close to the worst panel in that issue. Look, they're mostly on "model"
>>84441678
Frazer Irving art is superb, you pleb...
But yes, he should avoid cape comics, his style just doesn't fit.
>>84438569
I don't know which comics you read, but in my book it's terrible art. Sure, there are places where it's technically correct, and the artist is obviously practiced. She can draw good hands, by the looks of it, for instance.
But there are also anatomy mistakes everywhere. Ones that stand out. Like a woman looking like a man so much that Tumblr outed themselves as the judgemental pricks they really are and declared the character trans. Which she isn't.
The art could most charitably be described as "mostly functional". Personally, I find the faces she draws to be incredibly hard to look at. The mouths are off-putting, the noses look inhuman, and the eyes are unexpressive.
It's the sort of art you wouldn't scoff at if you found it on the side of a Mexican ice cream van. But panel after panel? No thanks.
>>84438629
Picasso did actually have a weiner dog that he cared for a lot though and has been in several other of his works.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/26/arts/design/26lump.html?_r=0
>>84438670
an entire book about weiner dogs, lol wat? let me google this
I am not gonna buy this book
I am not gonna buy this book
I am not gonna buy this book
I am not gonna buy this book
I am not gonna buy this book
I am not gonna buy this book
>>84441250
*she
she makes youtube videos and sells sonichu amiboos
>>84442815
*it
>>84440810
The art in manga is widely too simplistic for a Western comic. Mangakas don't do very impressive art as often as they instinctively churn out shit that looks practically identical to 80% of other manga (since they've practiced that until they can draw a standard anime eye in 0.01 seconds flat when endangeed) to meet their ridiculously tight deadlines and keep up with their slave-labor schedule and getting paid in peanuts.
There's some exceptions but that's mostly it
Every time
>>84443499
>Mangakas don't do very impressive art
That's subjective, because I find that 10x more effort and detail is put into manga and western artists don't really make an effort to make their art look different beyond using a different color pallete
I mean, for the most part, western capeshit is just a series of computer generated backgrounds traced over to look like they drew it themselves and then awkwardly putting actors in those scenes
Western Artists are actually terrible at fight scenes
>>84438717
It's not one panel, it's almost every panel she appears in. She was made to look and act intentionally annoying. Later artists made her look cute.
>>84439270
Considering Squirrel Girl is more comedy book than cape book, i'd say it fits pretty well.
![e5b99dcc1f9337724dfc0c3081be1c55[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/B6npZq6.jpg "e5b99dcc1f9337724dfc0c3081be1c55[1].jpg")
>>84443664
I really don't think she looks that bad in other panels
This isn't a page, but a few panels mashed together
>>84441537
And her Archer and Armstrong looks better than anything he's ever done.
>>84443649
>western artists don't really make an effort to make their art look different beyond using a different color pallete
Most manga looks the same on a way that could be misintepreted as symbol drawing. The style is so universal that people make guides on how to draw manga specifically and given that the student actually understands fundamentals the results should be accurate enough. A lot of popular mangaka have their own distinctive style, but they're the exception, not the rule. Of all the things you could have praised about manga that is not one of them
>>84443710
I dont know, she looks about as ugly as in her current book. If anything, at least now she doesn't have the hideous eye makeup.
>>84443774
>Most manga looks the same on a way that could be misintepreted as symbol drawing
No anon, that's not because all manga looks the same, it's because the west doesn't actually consume comics, western or eastern
People think of that symbolized drawing in the same way that people think that all comics are about superheroes
If you asked any person on the street to name a comic book character, chances are that they'd name something from from Marvel or DC, and most definitely a super hero character
Even though comics like Ghost World, Scott Pilgrim, and Sin City have all spawned movie versions, they aren't considered comic book movies because people don't really know about the comic books they are based on
So if manga and anime all looks a specific way to you, it's because you don't actually consume enough manga
>>84441639
>One time he drew a scene where an important character returned, but wasn't name dropped.
What book was it and who was returned?
>>84440459
whats bad about it? that page looks fine.
>>84441959
Its a collection of Far Side comics. I have that book. The whole book is just normal panels, but the middle of the book has about 10 pages of Weiner Dog parodies
>>84443731
Nah, post some DKR2 or Holy Terror if you want uggo by Frank
>>84443649
>says "western artists"
>means "artists who do superhero work for two large corporations"
If you're going to be that sloppy with your language, maybe you should just keep your weeaboo mouth shut and fuck off to /a/.
>>84443731
I never understood who the fuck the fat guy was supposed to be. Just a random Joker goon who stayed loyal all those years?
>>84443919
Is this the only time the robots were actually in disguise instead of just being trans
>>84443813
I still say she looks pretty cute there, and I think the eye makeup is more than okay
And really, Squirrel Girl looking terrible in her original appearance shouldn't even be an argument because Erica Henderson draws all of her characters that terribly
I'm sure you know about how she had to remind people that a main character wasn't trans because she couldn't adequately draw a female with masculine features without making them look completely like a dude in drag
Not only that, but since her appearance, she has looked much cuter
After years of Squirrel Girl looked at least kinda cute, why would you draw her terribly and cite her original appearance
Nobody expects the Iron Man armor to look clunky, grey, and made from spare parts even though that's what it looked like in it's first appearance
>>84443591
Why's he have the 'just fuck my shit up' haircut?
>>84443958
>means "artists who do superhero work for two large corporations"
>because he's talking about the art from popular, large corporations like Marvel and DC or Shueisha on the eastern end
context anon
please stop getting butthurt
>>84438629
Stupid Jews ruining art. Art used to be good.
>>84439416
They are supposed to help you with perspective on limbs
EH keeps forgetting to make the black one look like a woman
>>84443591
jesus fuck
you can see the camera and the little handle
even the grid brick
>>84438629
>Art is subjective.
How? Aesthetic value exists in the world as colour does- dependent on perception but available to all observers capable of perceiving. Everyone everywhere knows what beauty is, and everyone can be moved by truly excellent art. Classical sculpture is good art. Renaissaince painting is good art. A doodle of a dog on a napkin is not good art. A woman being fingered onstage with a spaghetti can is not good art. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is not good art.
>>84444166
>fingered onstage with a spaghetti can
is it still fingering if you aren't using your fingers
>>84443591
A fucking Lego!
>>84444025
oh wow. I just finished reading the two TPBs of that. Yep. I remember not knowing who the heck that was and then when they introduced him later on, i was confused because he just popped up out of nowhere.
Dark Cybertron was such a confusing read
>>84444064
None of them look like women. Or men. Or people.
>>84440516
they'd be more valuable for gestures and general proportions i think
>>84444245
I think they look like meat puppets made out of fat people's skin.
>>84444019
No, he (you) is talking about "Western artists" and "mangaka".
Define your terms.
Cunt.
>>84444207
>>84443978
It wasn't the main character people thought was trans, it was her black sidekick, and i honestly blame that on the fact that most sjw's have never met a black person before in real life.
As for the artist herself, read her issues of Archer and Armstrong, or Jugghead if you'd like. Her art is fine, if a little off model occasionally. But but when your working on multiple books at once, thats to be expected. It probably looks off to so many people because it's in a Marvel book, which is associated with cape comics. Considering the book in question is more of a comedy with the occasional superhero antics, having a non-house style seems appropriate.
Do i think she's one of the best artists around today? No, far from it. Did she deserve the Eisner she got? Probably not, but thats more a problem with award show/ceremonies in general than a problem with her.
As for her not looking cute in her style, well, nothing I say really matters on that front. If the only reason you read a book is because a character is "cute", that's fine, but don't get mad at another book for not being cute when that wasn't it's intention in the first place.
The new Squirrel girl was made as a comedy book, it did not set out to be cute/waifu material. If you don't find it funny, that's something to criticize it for. But don't criticize it for something it was never meant to be in the first place.
>>84444147
This is the sort of thing that looks OK as a thumbnail, and then you zoom in and all I can hear in my head is a slow, saliva-heavy mongoloid laugh.
Duuuhhhaaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaaaaa...
>>84444315
The eyes are what always unsettle me.
They don't register as eyes, with their weird shapes and tiny lazy dots. ITs like some weird lump of primal proto-flesh that i assume is light sensitive from some deep water monstrosity forgotten by time and evolution.
>>84444064
Of the three she looks the most like a woman. Who's the young red-haired child standing next to her?
>>84444207
Thats Dorothy Spinner on the right, right?
>>84444437
>>84444455
Actually, it's April O'Neil.
>>84444520
Bullshit... Really?
>>84444406
Not him, but I don't read any Marvel stuff, and I think it looks fucking terrible. Especially the noses. Henderson does not understand how to draw a nose that doesn't look like a potato. Every character who turns their head sideways looks like they've got a broken nose. Every nose is the same blob with holes drawn in it, giving every character a piggish appearance in some perspectives. Everyone has the same lips, too.
It's bad art. Pure and simple. Beneath the level of anyone who should be drawing professionally. There are hobbyists and porn-artists out there who consistently do better stuff than Henderson. She can not draw human faces worth a damn, and that's especially galling in a comic where the characters *aren't* masked up and fighting crime every other page. What SG is trying to do really relies on good character art.
>>84444529
Mm hm. The Archie series of TMNT.
Bob Fingerman. Brrrrr...
Would you believe they let this guy draw an entire three issue mini series.
It happened.
>>84444636
Leo is making the same face I am when I look at that shit
>>84444556
>It's bad art. Pure and simple.
and she LITERALLY has a career because she is a tumbrl SJW
If she was a 40 year old white guy she wouldn't even had a web comic
she is a perfect example of forced diversity hire that kills merit based success.
>>84444406
I said "a main character" because she shows up often and I forgot her name
I've read some issues of Jugghead, the art is still shit. It's not off model, it just looks bad.
Google "poorly drawn pikachu". Those aren't really off model, pikachu is a basic design that doesn't really need embellishing. If you do think it's off model, that's fine, because they still pretty much look like a pikachu. You can still tell that it's pikachu. But it's still not a good drawing of pikachu.
Her working on multiple things just means that she should prioritize if she wants to actually produce a high quality comic. She still does guest appearances and sketch commissions, maybe she could not do those things while working on the comic.
On her tumblr, the stuff she does in her spare time, the art is still bad. It's very complex, she has a very skilled approach to coloring. But her art is sloppy, she doesn't really finish certain features like hands and fingers, feet, backgrounds, and other things that she uses the pose of the body to hide. She's capable, but I wouldn't say she's a good artist
You're right, it wasn't intended to be a comic with cute looking characters. But it not being cute doesn't mean it's the only reason it's bad NOR that it's immune from criticism on those parts. This is a thread about bad art. The reason we aren't talking about the whole of the comic is because that's not what the thread is about
She should be criticized on all parts of her comic because that's the product she puts out.
Why would you not criticize parts of something simply because they weren't the focus?
If someone served you food and it tasted terrible, it was messy and greasy, and put together in a way that made it hard to eat, would you not criticize the food even if the chef's intent was just to serve it to you as fast as possible?
She's primarily an artist, she does sketches on commission, but you're saying that I shouldn't say the comic has bad art because that wasn't the focus?
>>84444166
Art is subjective because there is more than one way to make and or view it.
Just how you dont like that painting of the dog, someone else may like it because its simple and done with one line on a big canvas.
>>84444386
Just because you're confused, doesn't mean we were
context, stupid
it's obvious we weren't talking about all western artists because that's everyone outside of japan, stupid
so stupid
Someone made it look less ugly
Why cant the editor just yell at EH to draw more good and put the slightest effort into the faces?
>>84444820
Because the art director has no balls
>>84444790
You can't even complete a fucking sentence.
>>84444839
>your argument is now bad because of perceived typos and syntax errors
those aren't complete sentences because they don't have to be
why put effort into talking to an idiot
so so stupid
way to move the goalposts
>>84444769
>She's primarily an artist, she does sketches on commission, but you're saying that I shouldn't say the comic has bad art because that wasn't the focus?
Other anon here.
If the art isnt the focus, why not write a novel?
>>84444864
Hi, I just met you, and this is crazy, but you write like an idiot, so try punctuation, maybe.
>>84444890
>If the art isnt the focus, why not write a novel?
I was going to say something about this
But Marvel obviously isn't going to pay for a series of novels and besides the fact that she wouldn't even be considered, she's not going to do something like that unless she got paid to do it
I mean what would be the point of talking about that
>>84444898
uh
no
>>84444864
Bitch, you have no argument.
>>84445038
You do realize that the number of posters hasn't actually changed, right?
replying to something twice doesn't make you more right
so, so, so,,,,,,,,,, stupid
>>84444951
Did you know that you don't have to start a every sentence with a new line? There is this fantastic button with a little dot, that we call a "period," on it that adults use instead of that big one with the arrow you're so fond of.
>>84445099
uh.......
hm......
interesting....
thanks anon
truly thank you
>>84445087
You are literally too stupid to understand periods.
>>84445138
literally............., hm....
ok
>>84445151
Yes literally. You literally haven't used them right once because you're literally too stupid.
>>84444898
Fuck off namefag
>>84445182
>Yes literally. You literally haven't used them right once because you're literally too stupid.
.ok.guy.that.s.a.fair.....point...
![1158300-cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ot0piXQ.jpg "1158300-cover[1].jpg")
>>84441720
>implying
His work in the Klarion miniseries and Batman and Robin was amazing.
>>84438625
fuck off, Liefeld is great
>>84441720
i actually like how he does Cyke
>>84445229
Fuck Liefeld!
>>84445268
That cannot be legit. Like seriously, that hurts my eyes.
>>84445229
Quit procrastinating and work on your art, Rob.
Greg Land is appealing enough until you see the man behind the curtain, copying and pasting it all together.
>>84445316
Liefeld's super early shit on Uncanny X-Men was pretty good actually. It felt like he was illustrating cartoon Die-Hard. But the longer he worked, and the less often it was fill ins, the worse it got. And fuck it got really bad.
Dat longshot.
>>84445367
Don't forget stealing other artists' works
>>84443591
Fucking absolutely fucking ridiculous. I mean how in the fuck was he not fired right fucking there?
So I always see people talking about the bad comic artists, but never any good. Are there even any standout artists or is it just average or Liefeld-tier?
>>84443591
Is that ship made of legos? Did he take a picture of a lego ship off the instructions or something ?
>>84444780
Art is subjective, but quality of art isn't.
Isn't the new "Iron Man" comic using photoshoped 3D Models?
>>84441848
>Tumblr
>reading comics
Pick one.
>>84444025
Can you seriously not tell that that's Kup? Look at the top of his head, that's Kup's littler crown thing.
>>84445632
I have only heard praise for Bill Sienkiewicz
>>84444315
They all look like Lena Dunham.
>>84444147
OH MY GOD WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAACE!
>>84445632
The best house/traditional style art is definitely Art Adams.
>>84438501
She must suffer from prosopagnosia because FACES DO NOT LOOK LIKE THAT, MOUTHS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT EVER.
Now it she suffered from the inability to discern human faces that would be a valid excuse.
Seriously how does Henderson keep getting work?
>Nobody has posted US War Machine yet.
>>84445930
faggots who don't read comics buy shit that looks "cool" SG sells well. So they get to keep their job.
>>84445643
How do you, in entirely objective terms, describe the quality of a Rembrandt painting compared to one of Van Gogh's? Which painter is of higher quality, without picking one because of some petty opinion you might hold.
Eh, personally I think Henderson's style suits North's writing pretty well.
>>84446020
By writing do you mean utter shit? If so, then yes.
>What could have been.
>>84444435
Not only did I find what you said was right after I edited the eyes, but it was hard not to edit face on there once I got going
>>84446106
The easiest way to find the virgin on 4chan is locating the guy with an unreasonable hatred of short hair.
>>84446106
My issue with these edits is that it helps the artist's "point", in that clearly she must have fantastic proportion of anatomy, because every edit just makes the main character look attractive, because there's nothing else to critique about the art!
If there was someone that could make an edit that kept the "ugly"-ness, without making everyone seem deformed, that'd be great.
>>84438539
this is better than hitch's justice league right now
>People hating on squirrel girl because she isn't drawn as an idealized waifu.
>>84441666
Might just be because I'm terrible at art, but this doesn't seem THAT bad.
>>84446276
>mfw this post again
>>84446088
I feel like art totally changes the tone of a book, that might make me be able to like or stand Quirl grill
>>84446221
Exactly, The anatomy of Squirrel girl is pretty "weird" and even stupid at some points. One arm is larger, one arm reaches the knees, On leng is curved, and she has pretty short legs and looks like a dwarf.
>>84446436
She draws feet worse than Liefeld
>>84444636
Holy shit. Was this before or after he did straight-up porn comics?
>>84446436
In that picture it's a perspective technique. The arm and leg further back will look shorter than the ones moving forward to convey depth. I don't like her art for a lot of reasons, but that particular criticism with that particular example pic is not on point.
>>84446436
>>84446476
And proportions and perspective is all fucked up, either that guy has the shortest legs ever, or the artist has no idea how perspective works
>>84446663
maybe it's just a really weird floor pattern
>>84441250
Whatever this is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EseLSkb8GTc
I can't even remember what Omega Red was even doing in this book, it was like a one issue thing. The writing was almost as bad as the art at this point.
>>84438645
The HHHNNNGGG guy tracing is actually Salvador Larroca
some of the composition on squirrel girl is fucking awful, like there's these big ass areas of blank negative space and the panel flow gets bad too, but nobody ever seems to post that because they're more concerned with making the characters fuckable
>>84438645
Not posting the whole thread about the lady and the brick.
Motherfucker traced a brick.
A fucking brick.
>>84446900
I always thought my lack of talent would hold me back from making it in comics, but Greg Land has just inspired me to not give a fuck and try to sell my shit anyways.
>>84446208
Some people don't like what floats your boat, Anon. Shocking, I know.
>>84446780
Really living it.
>>84440869
Greg Land?! Tracing porn?!!?!?!?
>>84446088
That looks cute as hell.
>>84438629
I instantly unfollow / disregard anyone who praises Picasso (or Warhol).
>>84447043
Picasso straight up sucks considering Klimt and actually amazing artists were making things during his time.
I think Warhol's stuff sucks, but his telling high-brow art to fuck off and the people influenced by him are good overall.
>>84443967
Like most other things in DKR, it's not explained. What's the deal with those little midget guys that spew joker toxin? The only answer is don't think about it
>>84445640
>>84444056
>>84447082
>people influenced by him are good overall
Like that faggot Lichtenstein?
>>84446946
I want to murder every single person who disagrees with me and/or likes what i dislike
>>84443967
>>84447108
I think he's some weird retard savant version of Humpty Dumpty crossed with Toy Maker.
>>84447082
They are responsible for the state of modern art and I fucking hate them for it.
This is why art is a joke today.
It should have all stopped with the Impressionists, they had academic skills. They knew which rules to break. What happened afterwards was all a fucking mistake.
>>84447043
>(or Warhol).
But Warhol set the standards for modern marketing techniques... oh you mean art, yeah he's a pretty shitty artist
>>84447140
>>84439416
They're not actually any good. It's hard to get them to stay in any workable position. You'd be better off getting an action figure.
Most people use references. Land reuses those references so much they're recognizable.
>>84447292
> Do you like Picasso?
> Yeah of course-
> So you like modern art?
> uhhhhh-
> Do you like this sketch by Picasso
> UHHH...
> Do you like Jackson Pollock
> ERROR ERROR
>>84441561
>>84438699
I see nothing wrong with this
>>84438501
kill it. kill it with fire.
>>84445212
His stuff on the Shade series at the beginning of the Nu52 was also great.
>>84445741
That looks good. Could see it hung up in a GP's waiting room and if not for Cannonball's obvious X-Men uniform, it would be perfectly inconspicuous.
>>84443731
Pleb alert
>>84444422
yeah i was like 'this isn't soOH MY GOOOOOOD'
>>84444435
It's the eyes and the *mouth* for me. ...Hell, I'll just call the whole face a trainwreck.
>>84446303
>Egoraptor.jpg
>>84446476
That, mon ami, is a hoof.
>>84439962
>Two Best Friends Rule63
>>84438629
this is good thou? He's reduced the wiener dog to its bare essentials and one single line. Neat.
>>84438750
they use an artist for the cover (most of the time is a high quality artist) and other for the inner work (always worse than the cover artists)
comics fans eat this shit and love it. Then they talk shit about manga not having quality because they can put color in their pages.
but to be fair, cape comics are the lowest common denominator for "western"comics. They are only a step higher than newspaper cartoons (and some of then are better).
>>84448752
>they use an artist for the cover (most of the time is a high quality artist) and other for the inner work (always worse than the cover artists)
I still think this should be illegal.
>>84448808
the big names (Marvel, DC) do it for decades.
Their fans don't care, maybe because if you are accustomed to shit you will always like it no matter how they throw it at you.
jokes aside, what I like about western comics in general are they have a writer and an drawing artist. That way each one can focus in their work. Some good manga follows this, but most of the time is one man (and their assistants) job.
I find it taxing for one person to do the writing and the drawing.
Oh yeah, and don't make me talk about webcomics. They have the laziest faggots in this world. They make a M-W-F release schedule weekly for a month, then they go to a hiatus "to recover energy and strength". That manga of a tomboy girl doing cute things is made daily, five days a week and the author only takes a rest once a year.
>>84439962
bitch in the middle looks like pic related
>>84445268
>>84445330
It's Das Pastoras. That's his style. He's an underground cartoonist who makes his own comcis otherwise. I think they just wanted to get experimental with that one and let a very non-commercial style artist do his thang. He can obviously draw it's just that his sick twisted style isn't really fit for geek culture oriented comics for kids.
>>84438645
He is making comicbooks. I don't think he really cares about artistic integrity. And he shouldn't
>>84449029
That's an insult to King Crimson.
>>84445741
I hated that shit when it was coming out. I get that it's a different style, but not what I wanted for a comic book.
>>84438501
Those are supposed to be girls?
>>84446554
WHO THE FUCK WOULD WANT HIM TO DRAW PORN?!?!
AND WHO THE FUCK WOULD WANK TO IT?!?!?
>>84438501
I could forgive this series' shitty art if I could read the facial expressions at all. Why are some of them smiling? Every face, sometimes they're just smiling and there doesn't seem to be any reason why most of the time.
The classic
>>84450106
That's not even bad art, it's just a bad choice of expression for Wolverine.
>>84450106
Is this from that guy who did the covers for Marvel Zombies?
>>84449763
Some one out there probably finds aped faced women with action figure like boney bodies sexy.
>>84450136
Can you fucking imagine if Wolvie was that enthusiastic and happy every time he Snk't a Bub?
>>84441561
>Vitiligo
What is Tumblr's obsession with this rare as fuck condition?
>>84450249
I know awhitegirl who has it and she's fine a f
>>84450249
Probably a race thing. "I'm not black/white, I have vitiligo! Respect my identity!"
>>84447674
That it is, Gambit, that it is.
>>84438501
>>84450249
They obsess about everything that makes them special, that makes them feel cast out, and that looks fuckin' bae.
I mean, imagine if the girl had a bad case of psoriasis or some other less cool skin condition. They don't glorify those.
>>84441561
I have no problem with racebending art. But the quality is just reprehensible.
>>84443731
Your reddit is showing.
no words
>>84446303
>>84446476
>>84445930
>>84444435
The only person who could properly animate Erica Henderson's art is John K
Just imagine those faces sloshing around in his style...
https://youtu.be/oCa7tKiCMN4
>>84450448
What the hell happened to Frank Miller's art?
>>84450481
He got... lazier?
>>84450459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYMATwnzdo
better version
>>84450249
They picked a model with vitiligo to advertise a popular brand of girls' clothes
all these weird phenomena come from marketing campaigns or celebrities doing it
>>84451027
How the fuck is it perfectly symmetrical ? I've never seen it even close to having such smooth edges either.
>>84451027
>>84451220
>>84451027
I have to add: I have nothing against the model herself, the message of the campaign was pretty cool and maybe it was even a risky move (I doubt it), but vitiligo looks rather bizarre for many and giving encouragement to teens is great.
But the truth is that this shit is always very corporate and disingenuous and it has no intent to actually spread a good message, let alone redirect consumers' misguided and retarded reaction if they start obsessing over vitiligo as the ultimate special snowflakery badge.
>>84451220
I'm not a scientist but I'm making a wild guess that her vitiligo started during gestation so the lack of pigmentation ended up being more symmetrical.
>>84451220
>How the fuck is it perfectly symmetrical
It's assymetrical on her limbs and torso, so I'm guessing makeup.
>>84451027
I went to school with a native american girl who was pretty dark and had a skin condition like this, but instead of there being pale white splotches all over her they were this dark purple/maroon color. I've never seen any other person with it since and I wish I could remember her name so I could find pictures of her. Shit was bizarre.
>>84451443
Those are birthmarks, IIRC they have nothing to do with melanine. Vitiligo makes so that certain patches of skin can't have melanin, or lose the ability to produce it.
>>84438629
...Anyways, post bad art, guys.
