> 59. SPIDER-GWEN #9 (MAR)
> 60. DAREDEVIL #8 (MAR)
> 61. MOON KNIGHT #3 (MAR)
> 62. ALL NEW X-MEN #10 (MAR)
> 63. CIVIL WAR II GODS OF WAR #1 (MAR)
> 64. POWER RANGERS PINK #1 (BOO)
> 65. DEADPOOL MERCS FOR MONEY #5 (MAR)
> 66. UNCANNY AVENGERS #10 (MAR)
> 67. EMPRESS #3 (MAR)
> 68. THUNDERBOLTS #2 (MAR)
> 69. PAPER GIRLS #6 (IMA)
> 70. DAREDEVIL PUNISHER #2 (MAR)
> 71. GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #9 (MAR)
> 72. NEW AVENGERS #12 (MAR)
> 73. WACKY RACELAND #1 (DC)
> 74. HARLEY QUINN AND HER GANG OF HARLEYS #3 (DC)
> 75. MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS #4 (BOO)
> 76. GWENPOOL #3 (MAR)
> 77. CAPTAIN AMERICA SAM WILSON #10 (MAR)
> 78. MS MARVEL #8 (MAR)
> 79. SPIDER-WOMEN OMEGA #1 (MAR)
> 80. TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #7 (MAR)
> 81. ULTIMATES #8 (MAR)
> 82. SCOOBY APOCALYPSE #2 (DC)
> 83. UNCANNY INHUMANS #11 (MAR)
> 84. VOTE LOKI #1 (MAR)
> 85. INTERNATIONAL IRON MAN #4 (MAR)
> 86. JUPITERS LEGACY VOL 2 #1 (MR) (IMA)
> 87. CAPTAIN MARVEL #6 (MAR)
> 88. BLACK WIDOW #4 (MAR)
> 89. I HATE FAIRYLAND #6 (MR) (IMA)
> 90. A-FORCE #6 (MAR)
> 91. X-MEN 92 #4 (MAR)
> 92. UNCANNY INHUMANS #10 (MAR)
> 93. POWER MAN AND IRON FIST #5 (MAR)
> 94. NEW SUICIDE SQUAD #21 (DC)
> 95. SILK #9 (MAR)
> 96. CARNAGE #9 (MAR)
> 97. SPIDER-MAN 2099 #11 (MAR)
> 98. VISION #8 (MAR)
> 99. POISON IVY CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH #6 (DC)
> 100. ROBIN SON OF BATMAN #13 (DC)

>>Please note that comics marked with an asterisk (*) have had their reported quantities reduced due to retailer returnability, and thus may rank lower on the charts than their actual sales would reflect.

>IDW's top book for the month is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Bebop & Rocksteady Destroy Everything #1 at 119
>Dark Horse's top book for the month is Hellboy in Hell #10 at 140


>May 2016's top ten: Marvel with 7, DC with 3
>this June, it's the reverse

>the current Star Wars ongoing is knocked out from the top 10 for the first time
>those TWD and several other drops because DC Rebirth

TOP 100 GRAPHIC NOVELS
> 1. SAGA TP VOL 06 (MR) (IMA)
> 2. DARK NIGHT A TRUE BATMAN STORY HC (MR) (DC)
> 3. SEX CRIMINALS TP VOL 03 THREE THE HARD WAY (MR) (IMA)
> 4. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS TP VOL 01 FINALS CRISIS (DC)
> 5. COLOR YOUR OWN YOUNG MARVEL BY SKOTTIE YOUNG TP (MAR)
> 6. BATMAN THE KILLING JOKE SPECIAL ED HC (DC)
> 7. PREACHER TP BOOK 01 (MR) (DC)
> 8. OUTCAST BY KIRKMAN & AZACETA TP VOL 03 LITTLE LIGHT (MR) (IMA)
> 9. HARLEY QUINN TP VOL 03 KISS KISS BANG STAB (DC)
> 10. NEIL GAIMANS HOW TO TALK TO GIRLS AT PARTIES HC (DAR)
> 11. SAGA TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 12. MS MARVEL TP VOL 05 SUPER FAMOUS (MAR)
> 13. FIGHT CLUB 2 HC (MR) (DAR)
> 14. BATMAN EARTH ONE TP VOL 02 (DC)
> 15. MARCH GN BOOK 01 (IDW)
> 16. BUFFY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS FREAKS & GEEKS TP (DAR)
> 17. DEADPOOL WORLDS GREATEST TP VOL 02 END OF ERROR (MAR)
> 18. MARCH GN BOOK 02 (IDW)
> 19. VISION TP VOL 01 LITTLE WORSE THAN MAN (MAR)
> 20. COLORING DC WONDER WOMAN TP (DC)
> 21. CIVIL WAR TP (MAR)
> 22. I HATE FAIRYLAND COLORING BOOK TP (IMA)
> 23. BACK TO THE FUTURE TP UNTOLD TALES & ALT TIMELINES (IDW)
> 24. OUTCAST BY KIRKMAN & AZACETA TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 25. HARLEY QUINN HC VOL 04 A CALL TO ARMS (DC)
> 26. JUPITERS CIRCLE TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 27. DEADPOOL DRACULAS GAUNTLET TP (MAR)
> 28. HAWKEYE TP VOL 06 HAWKEYES (MAR)
> 29. SPIDEY ALL NEW MARVEL TREASURY EDITION TP (MAR)
> 30. HARBINGER TP VOL 02 RENEGADES (VAL)
> 31. BATMAN AND ROBIN ETERNAL TP VOL 02 (DC)
> 32. SAGA TP VOL 05 (MR) (IMA)
> 33. HARBINGER WARS TP (VAL)
> 34. ARMOR HUNTERS TP VOL 01 (VAL)
> 35. FAITH TP VOL 01 HOLLYWOOD & VINE (VAL)
> 36. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE TP (MAR)
> 37. WATCHMEN TP (DC)
> 38. DEADPOOL CLASSIC TP VOL 16 KILLOGY (MAR)
> 39. RICK & MORTY TP VOL 01 (ONI)
> 40. UNCANNY X-MEN SUPERIOR TP VOL 01 SURVIVAL OF FITTEST (MAR)
> 41. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 01 (IMA)
> 42. TOKYO GHOUL GN VOL 07 (MR) (VIZ)
> 43. FLASHPOINT TP (DC)
> 44. PREACHER TP BOOK 02 (MR) (DC)

> 45. SHANG-CHI MASTER OF KUNG FU OMNIBUS HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 46. CLEAN ROOM TP VOL 01 IMMACULATE CONCEPTION (MR) (DC)
> 47. INFINITY ENTITY TP (MAR)
> 47. SPIDER-WOMAN TP VOL 01 BABY TALK (MAR)
> 49. WONDER WOMAN 77 TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 50. ULTIMATES OMNIVERSAL TP VOL 01 START WITH IMPOSSIBLE (MAR)
> 51. JAMES BOND HC VOL 01 VARGR (DE)
> 52. DC THE NEW FRONTIER TP (DC)
> 53. PATSY WALKER AKA HELLCAT TP VOL 01 HOOKED ON FELINE (MAR)
> 54. WICKED & DIVINE TP VOL 01 THE FAUST ACT (MR) (IMA)
> 55. FABLES THE WOLF AMONG US TP VOL 02 (MR) (DC)
> 55. WALKING DEAD TP VOL 25 NO TURNING BACK (MR) (IMA)
> 57. FLASH THE SILVER AGE TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 58. MOON GIRL AND DEVIL DINOSAUR TP VOL 01 BFF (MAR)
> 59. SAGA TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 60. BATMAN TP VOL 01 THE COURT OF OWLS (N52) (DC)
> 61. JUGHEAD TP VOL 01 (ARC)
> 61. WALKING DEAD TP VOL 01 DAYS GONE BYE (IMA)
> 63. RACHEL RISING TP VOL 07 DUST TO DUST (ABS)
> 64. BATMAN SHADOW OF THE BAT TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 64. LEGENDS 30TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION TP (DC)
> 66. STAR WARS LEGENDS EPIC COLLECTION TP VOL 01 REBELLION (MAR)
> 67. SQUADRON SUPREME TP VOL 01 BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY (MAR)
> 68. VENOM SPACE KNIGHT TP VOL 01 AGENT OF COSMOS (MAR)
> 69. BITCH PLANET TP VOL 01 EXTRAORDINARY MACHINE (MR) (IMA)
> 70. CAPTAIN MARVEL EARTHS MIGHTIEST HERO TP VOL 01 (MAR)
> 71. SUPERMAN WONDER WOMAN TP VOL 03 CASUALTIES OF WAR (DC)
> 72. WOLVERINE OLD MAN LOGAN TP (MAR)
> 73. BATMAN HUSH COMPLETE TP (DC)
> 74. DESCENDER TP VOL 01 TIN STARS (MR) (IMA)
> 75. CAPTAIN AMERICA MAN OUT OF TIME PREM HC (MAR)
> 76. ART OPS TP VOL 01 (MR) (DC)
> 77. ID GN (MR) (IMA)
> 78. DAREDEVIL HC END OF DAYS (MAR)
> 79. SAGA TP VOL 04 (MR) (IMA)
> 80. PREACHER TP BOOK 03 (MR) (DC)
> 81. RAT QUEENS TP VOL 03 DEMONS (MR) (IMA)
> 82. WYTCHES TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 83. RAT QUEENS TP VOL 01 SASS & SORCERY (MR) (IMA)
> 84. TOKYO GHOST TP VOL 01 ATOMIC GARDEN (MR) (IMA)
> 85. HULK RETURN OF MONSTER PREM HC (MAR)
> 86. MINIONS DIGEST TP VOL 02 (RAN)

> 87. RINGSIDE TP VOL 01 KAYFABE (MR) (IMA)
> 88. SAGA TP VOL 03 (MR) (IMA)
> 89. SUICIDE SQUAD TP VOL 01 KICKED IN THE TEETH (N52) (DC)
> 90. OUTCAST BY KIRKMAN & AZACETA TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 91. 52 TP BOOK 01 (DC)
> 92. CARNAGE CLASSIC TP (MAR)
> 93. MARVEL ADVENTURES THOR SPIDER-MAN DIGEST TP (MAR)
> 94. AVENGERS STANDOFF HC (MAR)
> 94. INCREDIBLE HULK EPIC COLLECTION TP MAN OR MONSTER (MAR)
> 96. NORTHLANDERS TP BOOK 01 THE ANGLO SAXON SAGA (MR) (DC)
> 97. CAPTAIN AMERICA AMERICAN NIGHTMARE PREM HC (MAR)
> 98. MMW AVENGERS HC VOL 16 (MAR)
> 99. LEGENDARY STAR-LORD TP VOL 03 FIRST FLIGHT (MAR)
> 100. NOVA HUMAN ROCKET TP VOL 01 BURN OUT (MAR)

Note that these graphic novel rankings reflect only those ordered by Diamond accounts.


>Avengers Standoff that low


Sauces:
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=181134
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=181141

Pretty good for DC. Hopefully they'll keep most of the up for the next month.

>SUPERMAN REBIRTH and SUPERMAN

What is the difference?

>>84393106
Rebirth is basically a #0 in all but issue number

>>84393113
>assuming it's a troll thread judging by the OP pic

>>84393106
One advertises the coming comic series and the other is a comic series advertising that it's about to tell stories.

>>84392966
> Top 20 only 4 are Marvel

KEK

> Civil War took first but Batman and Batman Rebirth - that were sold in 2 weeks difference like CW II #1 & #2 - outsell Civil War

Well this was a great start from DC

>>84393271
>>Top 20 only 4 are Marvel
Actually five.

>>84393275
Yeah you right but that is just 1/4

>>84392966
As a DC fan, I'm not upset that Marvel is #1, but I am upset that they're #1 is Civil War II, because it's the worst kind of shit.

>>84393287
I'm buying it for the art.

>>84392966
>ASM that fucking low
Will Marvel fire Slott now?

So you're telling me that Marvel only beat out DC by 10% when they were publishing far more books, an event and Star Wars when DC only had 1/4th of it's relaunch out?

Sounds pretty shit to be honest

>>84393287

Why would you be upset as a DC fan? DC were never going to beat Marvel with the way Rebirth is being released. Each book would have had to have sold 250,000 at least. You should just be happy at the growth and the fact that you're finding quality in DC again

>>84393293
Probably not, everything was pushed down because of the flood of #1's from DC. Once they level out then it'll rise again.

>>84392966
Welp, sadly Civil War will keep Bendis in power

>>84393310

It's still to low. Spider-Man should be doing the same numbers as Batman

>>84393327

Apparently it's not selling well at all. Remember these are retailer numbers. Justice League will most likely take the top spot for July

>>84393310
It was pushed below black panther and deadpool though

>>84393332

>Three Marvel Comics and a bunch of Star Wars shit outsold Aquaman

Arthur, you're losing your touch.

>>84393341
>Apparently it's not selling well at all
>#1 best selling comic in June
>#2 still in top 5
Face it anon, all that tough talk and it still comes up on top.

>>84393345

I'm talking about on a month to month basis not just during Rebirth.
Spider-Man is Marvels biggest hero and Marvel is the bigger publisher. There's no reason why Batman should be constantly beating him

>>84393341
>Justice League will most likely take the top spot for July
In response to Rebirth and complaints about CWII, CWII #3, by benefit of a midnight release (delayed by one week to the release of Marvel NOW! 2.0 preview magazine) has a chance to claim the top spot.

>>84392966
>> 46. MIGHTY THOR #8 (MAR)

Still too high.

>>84393357

To retailers anon. They had to order those 2nd issue before knowing how 1 would sell

>>84393369
CWII #1 and #2 were doubleshipped.

>>84392966

I want the numbers already. Everything in the top 10 broke 100,000 that's a given since Star Wars has just fallen beneath that number and it's at 14. The only Number I have evidence for is Batman doing over 350,000

>>84393383

Exactly

>>84393362
The issue isn't even Batman. Batman had the relaunch this time. Spider-man shouldn't be bellow a Deadpool #13.

>>84393393

>Batman had the relaunch this time

And every other month where Batman kicked in Peters Spider teeth? He should be number 1

>>84393393
Deadpool #13 is oversized, while:
>implying retailers are tired of Slott's shitty OC villain

>>84392966
I just noticed something, the Actual #1 Issues were ordered more than the Rebirth #1 Issues. That's pretty weird.

>>Please note that comics marked with an asterisk (*) have had their reported quantities reduced due to retailer returnability, and thus may rank lower on the charts than their actual sales would reflect.

What does this mean? Like they actually sold less than what's placed there?

>>84393287
Hopefully the coming issues place less because looking at my LCSs, it's selling terribly. I fucking hope this is the even that makes Marvel realize that constant events are fucking stupid and is counter intuitive with relaunches supposedly attracting new readers.

>>84392976
> 4. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS TP VOL 01 FINALS CRISIS (DC)
Lol wut, how is this? I liked Tiny Titans will I like this?

>>84393411
Lots of lolis, you'll love it.

>>84393407
>Like they actually sold less than what's placed there?

Most of the time but it's actually the opposite this month. Lots of reorders for the Rebirth books because retailers didn't order enough

>>84393407
>What does this mean? Like they actually sold less than what's placed there?
The first three months each worth of issues of DC Rebirth ongoings are returnable.

>>84393362
>Slott's run on Amazing Spider-Man
>considered to be one of the worst of all time by many

>Snyder's run on Batman
>considered to be one of the best of all time by many

hmmm

>>84393407
>What does this mean? Like they actually sold less than what's placed there?
it means that they took the actual number of sales and then subtracted a percentage that they think would be returned to the publisher as unsold.

>>84392966
>Superman, Green Lanterns and Aquaman's follow up issues sold less
Damn, those were actually my unexpected favorites.

>>84393468

It's marginal for Superman and Aquaman 1 sold more than Aquaman Rebirth

>>84393309
"Upset" probably isn't the right word, but it's always baffling when bad and mediocre books sell better than good ones, no matter the publisher.

>Only events and Star Wars represent Marvel in top 20.
But..but Star Wars doesn't sell.

>>84393514

Again mate this is retailer numbers and Marvel events have always sold well in the past. But from what I've seen and heard it's not moving off the shelves like it should

>>84392966
>STAR WARS FORCE AWAKENS ADAPTATION #1

Why is this a thing? I get why you would want a novelization as it can add scenes that had to be cut but I see nothing a comic adaptation can add

>>84392966
>> 48. PUNISHER #2 (MAR)

Oh WOW that fell fast.

>>84393564
Gotta milk sheep for that Star Wars money.

>>84393632

I bet it was fucking 5.99 as well

>>84393650
Close, 4.99.

>the state of Marvel after Civil War

Suicide watch

>>84393298
Plus all DC titles with the * have had their numbers reduced since they're returnable but since they all literally completely sold out their numbers will be adjusted up (usually about 10%)

Once final numbers are in DC may well beat Marvel in total June sales, or at least come VERY close.

>>84393298
doesn't matter, if you check the Outhousers or other cancer sites, they still think DC loss.

I wish A-Force was doing better . . .

> 36. CAPTAIN AMERICA STEVE ROGERS #2
Even with the hydra rage the book didn't crack the top 30

>>84393403
Spidey ships twice monthly
Though
And this is only American sales
This is anecdotal bit both my lcs in the UK have said spidey outsells batman by roughly double per issue

>>84394175
huh didn't notice that. It probably still sold fairly well being in the Top 50

>>84394177
>only American Sales
Diamond is the only distributor you idiot.

>>84394177
>UK
>third world mattering

>>84394184
By next month probley won't even be top 50

>>84394200
but hey it was trending remember? DC BTFO!

So glad married man superdad is booting non-canon swinging single devil dealer Peter out of the top ten.

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>New Avengers closing on GotG
>International Iron Man that low

>>84392966
>This much of a drop between Green Arrow Rebirth and Green Arrow #1
Why?

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>>84394187
It does when it comes to spider-man

>>84394287
surprising really, maybe LCS weren't expecting much since it was GA?

>>84394287
These are only what's stores ordered months before the issues actually came out. They had no idea if the hype behind Rebirth so underordered. Notice on all the reordering charts DC is destroying Marvel as stores up their orders.

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All new inhumans BTFO

>>84394286
But New Avengers is good book, pleb.

>>84394366
Tito is crying from happiness

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>>84392966
>carnage in 96

I am afraid out little red friend is going to get cancelled soon, he was selling 24-21k last mont i think

>>84394355
You'll be BTFO with Death of X. Muties will be dragged through such mud that AvX will be good old days.

>>84392966
DC Universe Rebirth 2nd printing sold around 50k. It also got up to 4th printing so in the end it'll end up doing around 350k.

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>>84394383
While uncanny x-men By Bunn exist and sells more than your filthy Soule uncanny inhumans, inhumans will be always BTFO

>>84394400
>by Bunn and Land
And Magik with granny feet.

>>84392976
> 2. DARK NIGHT A TRUE BATMAN STORY HC (MR) (DC)
good to see this so high, but where is the discussion?

>>84394066
That would require over a million extra sales or a drastic collapse in Marvel sales, in a year which has been about 15% down over 2015 so far.

There may be a lot of complex factors at work, but with this being a big relaunch it's not a question of beating the competition or raising sales figures month to month but of doing so consistently. Otherwise the relaunch is a failure.

>>84393407
>What does this mean? Like they actually sold less than what's placed there?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sale_or_return

Ordinarily I'd be pleased to see DC adopting this tactic (normally they rely on direct sales to retailers, who then deal with the unsellable copies), but in this case there's a concern that they're doing it in conjunction with retailer variant covers.

You see, the returns in sale or return don't ever actually go back to the publisher. They never even go back to the print shop - they just go to be pulped and recycled by a third-party company that deals with that shit. Some of them get sold on at bargain-bin places if they get caught before they're pulped, but the publishers don't care about that because they've already refunded the original deposit to the LCS, and sold the remainder to the pulpers to recover some of their publishing costs.

All the retailers usually have to do is send a cover (historically) or scan a barcode for issues that go unsold - they get back their deposits per issue but the bulk of the copies go from the store straight to the recycler.

So if you have potentially valuable variants and the opportunity to obtain them not at a knockdown by over-ordering (as has been the case for 30 years) but essentially for free - there's a huge potential for fraud there.

Watch this space.

>>84394470
It was storytimed, talked about and forgotten.

Don't get too cocky, DC fans. Same thing happened in 2011. DC will only dominate the market for 3 months. Marvel always wins baby.

>>84393298
Most of the extra books were those timely reprints

>>84394640
Nah, DC is playing the long game here. Everything's fine.

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>>84394515
I didn't forget it, I just haven't seen any trolling opportunities.

>>84393327
Hail Hydra:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RavNOU-Tql8

>>84394640
Except at making good comics

>>84394640
>Marvel always wins baby.
Good to see /v/ is branching out its interests.

>>84394783
lol what comic is this?

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>>84394911
Dark Knight: A True Batman Story.
They fucked him up good, turned a part of his skull into powder.

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>2 X-books outselling the Avengers
>nevermind the inhuman slaughter

>>84393287
In my opinion Civil War II is doing a much better job with the moral ambiguity than the first one. I will admit that part of the sales though is due to the same reason they decided to do another civil war event when they did: Normies are buying the comics because they saw the movie.

>>84393365
>THOR
Still about 30 places higher than Captain Affirmative Action w/ Wings is.

>>84392966
>58. DC UNIVERSE REBIRTH #1 2ND PTG (DC)
Don't second printings usually sell like a few thousand copies? That's crazy

>>84393624
Keep it up and you're going to end up getting Franked.

>>84395224
>Don't second printings usually sell like a few thousand copies? That's crazy
It's the DC Fanboys. After BvS, they have to buy 6 of everything to show the Marvelfags that they are still relevant.

>>84392967
>> 76. GWENPOOL #3 (MAR)
Not bad, in my opinion, particularly during this Rebirth months where series sell at least 3 times what they would normally sell

Does someone know it's position last month?

>>84395141
Now marvel knows that they can do literally anything to the mutants, no matter how shitty it is, and people will still buy it

>>84394766
It will pay off in 3 years with another reboot

>>84395294
>Does someone know it's position last month?
45th

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>Avengers
>Thunderbolts
>Guardians of the Galaxy
>Inhumans

>>84395494
As I said, not bad

>>84395514
God, how much do I hate movie Mistyque

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>Avengers
>Thunderbolts
>Guardians of the Galaxy
>Ultimates
>Inhumans
>A-Force

>>84393389
>>84393369
>>84393357

That's a thing to keep in mind with the Diamond numbers, yeah. It tracks how much of what stores are ordering. Whether those comics are being sold to actual customers? Welp, that's the stores problem to worry about, isn't it?

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>>84395667
>Thunderbolts
What went wrong, /co/mrades?
>4 out of 6 classic Thunderbolts
>based Bucky
>Fifty Sue

>>84396023
Editorial mándate storylines
>first arc is about THE INHUMANS tm
>second arc is about MILES MORALES, THE SPIDER-MAn

>>84395972
Shouldnt that mean that the next time the store will order less about that comic ?

Lets say the store still have copies of CW2 # 2, for issue # 3 the number of copies should be lower than issue 2

>>84396023
>>84396040
And Liefeld-tier drawings don't help

Holy Shit nobody cares about Black Widow.

>>84396105
Duh. She's good only for lewds and shipping.

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>>84396330
BASED BENDIS, FUCK MY WIFE
Did they really have to use movie picture for article about comics?

>>84396370
it's not like he actually reads comics, going through the article paints him as someone who only watches MCU

>>84392967
>> 76. GWENPOOL #3 (MAR)
this makes me happy, that book is pure shit and the sales are speaking

>>84396330
Dat shilling

>>84396583
Well it's probably still around 30k since me marvel stays around there
So that's pretty good for a new joke character

>>84393291
Just pirate it.

>>84396693
The book is actually selling less than that, its nearing cancel numbers

>>84394177
Diamond counts sales in the US, Canada and Mexico

>>84392976
good to see Vision that high on the list

>>84396583
I would love to see Gurihiru doing a dc book instead of some marvel shit.

>>84396717
Don't worry, digital sales are there. Best excuse ever.
>>84396826
Who do you hate, for maximum monkey paw?

>>84396717
Except it's not. It's above Ms Marvel which is consistently 29k.

>>84392976
>> 19. VISION TP VOL 01 LITTLE WORSE THAN MAN (MAR)
pls be at least 2k

>>84396855
Except DC's been cleaning house digitally of course.

>>84396855
>Who do you hate, for maximum monkey paw?
Venditti.

>19. GREEN ARROW REBIRTH #1 [*] (DC)

90k+ and it's not even in the top 10, amazing month

>>84394509
None of the DC books had incentive variants and I believe only Batman #1 this month had retailer exclusive variants.

>>84397084
that's fucking beautiful, I hate incentive variants.

>>84397049
If the actual #1 is of any indication it's unlikely it'll last, sadly
I personally hope it's able to sell 50k in a generic week (say, number #37 or shit like that)

>>84395264
Fuck off, shill.

How do we stop Cuckvel and DChit?

>>84395264
Why is being a marvel shill not a bannable offense?

>58. DC UNIVERSE REBIRTH #1 2ND PTG (DC)

Remember this one is more expensive than the original printing because they changed the binding.

>>84397103
Yeah I don't mean as a long term health thing. I'm just impressed industry-wide how many books probably broke 100k.
50k twice a month would be great and much better than where it was at before (20k?).

>>84394303
I get what you're saying but were talking about comic's sales not merchandise.

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>>84395141
>Thinking this is good
Why are you Xfags buying garbage ? for fuck sakes i though you wanted quality

>>84396023
I wnted to buy the book, but no way I'm buying a book with a 90s liefeld feeling art.

>>84397103
Eh. These arent sales to people, these are stores pre ordering. The comic stores in my city are wishing they ordered at least double cause they are turning away a lot of customers who came for that GA

>>84394378
I would picture 20k being good for a carnage ongoing plus i believe the 1st tp sold well though i can't remember.

I'd say estimates for comparison points based on previous months:

90-100 spots are about 20k
70 seems to be about 30k
60 is about 40k
55 is about 50k

Hard to judge after that since the jumps get more erratic, probably everything 35 and higher broke 80k?

>>84397306
Nope, current mindset is BUY FIVE COPIES SO WE SHOW MARVEL THAT WE LOVE X-MEN.
Well, such is mindset on CBR, anyway.

>>84397306
You don't get it, they're laughing at the fact that even shitty X-books can outsell the titles Marvel is actively shilling.

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>>84397306
We're laughing because all that mainstream pub and pushing on The View means nothing before the mighty X-Cock. Avengers should be selling much higher all things considered.

>>84397376
All this tells Marvel is that they can put bottom of the barrel talent and zero effort into their x-books and they'll still sell well. If they still sell well when you put zero effort or talent on them, then why would they ever bother putting effort into them?

>>84396330
Damn, still lost.

>>84397404
It's not about pushing for change, it's just mockery. Obviously there's no way to win here until Marvel pulls their heads of of their asses. If they don't sell they get cancelled altogether like F4.

>>84397377
>>84397376
You do know that Marvel wont give a fuck right ? if anything you are showing that Xfags will eat anything that has that X name on it, and believe or not, those Xbooks are what are keeping the inhuman books afloat

>>84397404

Lemire and Ramos aren't bottom of the barrel. Land's sadly been an X dude forever. I dunno the thoughts on Bunn.

>>84397451
see >>84397434

>>84397451
>>84397466
There is no winning. If they don't sell they'll have an excuse to get rid of them

The fact that they still shit on Marvels other teams is just hilarious

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>>84392967
> 61. MOON KNIGHT #3 (MAR)
> 98. VISION #8 (MAR)

>tfw the best marvel books are below top 50
Life shouldn't be so fucking horrible.

>>84397454
Bunn wrote Magneto and bunch of Deadpools. Now we're getting his vision for X-Men.

>>84397499
It's hard to tell here whether it is the X-Men fans who are cucks or just Marvel themselves in this situation.

>>84397524
Vision did pretty well in trades apparently

>>84397546
Marvel is getting people to pay for books they don't even like. Pretty sure it's the x-fags who are getting cucked here.

>>84397582
saying how well trades did without the actual numbers is harder since there is no settling

that said it probably did better than how omega men will do

>>84397582
>19. VISION TP VOL 01 LITTLE WORSE THAN MAN (MAR)

And it did not show up on the Bookscan list (bookstore sales) this month. Doesn't seem that impressive.

>>84397729
>a high quality hardcover after three months of KingBat will do worse than a literal pile of garbage that is a Marvel trade in the same month as KingBat begins

>>84397770
Bookstores don't get it til July 12th

>>84397546
>>84397591

There is no 'voting with your wallets' in this case. Marvel is set on fucking them over and will do it either way.

Would much rather be the pain in the ass they can't rid of than get F4'd.

>>84397788
>Bookstores don't get it til July 12th

My mistake, then I guess we'll see how it does there.

>>84397788
Omega Men doesn't have a hardcover.

>>84397591
Marvel is printing books they don't want to make while giving (poor) source material to a rival

>>84397591
It's easier if you're filthy characterfag.
>>84397813
I've seen somewhere that Reed and Sue fucking off to create Multiverse is perfect ending for F4.
I shit you not.

>>84397849
>complete collection isn't a hardcover
DC you fucks

DC trades are still higher quality than Marvel

>>84397890
DC's collections department is kind of weird. Like not having an omnibus for Johns' Action run even though basically all his other major runs have them.

>>84397084
Batman, Justice League, Suicide Squad and Harley are the series that got retailer exclusive. If it weren't for Lee being on SS and movie coming out, it'd only 3 series with retailer exclusives.
>>84397103
Both GA: Rebirth and #1 got reprint but I don't think the series will have more than 30k after first 2 arcs.

>>84397890
Dollar for dollar everything printing wise DC does is higher quality than Marvel.

Look at Harley's black book or Dark Knight compared to CW2

>>84396868
Difference being that MS. Marvel is a book that is praised while Gwenpool is shitted on and is perceived as a sign of Marvel being shit

>>84397377
If Marvel wasn't so damn stubborn and put good creative team + PR love, main X title would be around 80k, probably would beat Spider-Man in terms of sales.

>>84397972
This. It's really pretty outstanding how DC keeps innovating and pushing the medium forward into new and interesting ways while providing affordable but hard hitting masterpieces and genre-defining works, meanwhile Marvel is pretty much nothing but SJW shilling meme-garbage.

It blows my mind that anyone would ever waste money on Marvel when DC is, in literally every single way, a thousand times better.

>>84397989
Okay but it's not selling at cancellation level yet.

>>84397863
>I've seen somewhere that Reed and Sue fucking off to create Multiverse is perfect ending for F4.
Reed becoming God is a better ending to the F4 than "mass genocide."

>>84398020
He's talking about printing quality not stories. You don't have to shitpost when it's an objective fact that they use better paper and such.

Though I think Marvel's hardcovers are generally bound better. DC still glues some of them.

>>84397454
Lemire by no means has any big pull in terms of sales though. Just look at Moon Knight.

>>84398024
the book will be gone soon, the numbers are sinking lower and lower with each issue

>>84398042
Don't act like this is first genocide for mutants.

Don't respond to the Gwenpool shitposter. Don't let him derail a good thread.

>>84398070
Okay, we'll get there when we get there.

I honestly don't understand how hard Lemire has fallen.

Lemire, Bunn, Soule, et all, all these DC guys has been crapping the pot ever since they were hired by Marvel. What gives?

Heck, even the Dogfucker has been putting out a good comic at DC. Is there something the DC editors do to make the writers work better? Is Berganza or something threatening with writers with shower rape or something?

>>84398155
Marvel editorial is more concerned about shock value than stories

>>84398063
Agreed on the binding, but it's offset by how ridiculously overpriced they are and that hideous spine dressing. I sincerely hope one of these new relaunches will move away from that mostly-white catastrophe.

>>84398155
Marvel gets a writer and immediately shoves them on multiple books at once, some of which they probably aren't all that excited about. On the one hand, I imagine a lot of writers are excited about this since they get paid by the page and are now making some decent cash, but on the other hand, the quality of work is going to suffer when you're required to put out double or triple the page count you used to be putting out.

>>84398200
also the paperback covers have a tendency to curl like mad

>>84398155
Marlel editorial never lets creator tell their story or gives enough breathing room for books. That said, Moon Knight is alright. Soule just sold out creativity for the chance to do movie tie ins.

Is there any date for the Moon Knight TPB?

>ms marvel
>captain marvel
>a force
>silk
>that low

Why don't girls buy comics?

>>84398275
Amazon says December 13

>>84398275
December 13 in bookstores and Amazon, couple weeks before that in LCSes

>>84398284
Ms. Marvel's stayed pretty consistent for what's already a pretty long run compared to her contemporaries

>>84398284
Ms. Marvel has been doing fine. Holding steady at 30k and Marvel's bestselling bookstore trade last year after Civil War.

>>84398284
Black Widow is doing poorly too it looks like, already that far down the chart at #4, yeesh. A shame because I was actually liking this one.

>>84397941
All I wanna know is why the fuck it takes them almost a year to release the trade/hardcover of their books, do you think they will take forever to release the tp/hc books now with double shippin?

>>84398155
Lemire is better than ever
>Moon Knight is becoming the greatest kino meta book of the decade
>Bloodshot Reborn is even more awesome, with a more mature 'action-oriented' theme and more creative freedom
>Descender is great, and Image let him do whatever he wants on the title

I prefer him doing that instead of writing Animal Man forever and living on Morrison's shadow

>>84398349
DC had their trade turnaround down to like 2 months before Rebirth, my dude

and Rebirth was specifically made to shift business more to the trade market

>>84398390
Double shipping was made so make up for DCYou selling like shit
Trades are bonuses

>>84398349
They changed with DCYou, books were getting trades about two months after the arc ended. No idea if they'll keep that up for Rebirth though. The monster crossover trade for the story Orlando is doing in Sept/Oct won't be out until March according to Amazon.

>>84398349
Only Rebirth trade I've seen a date for so far is the Monster Men one set for March while the crossover itself is set for September-October, so not as bad a turn around as usual.

>>84396023
Interest lost as soon as Inhumans appeared

>>84398390
>2 months
3-5 months
Trades came out in mostly March with a few in February and April and most had 6 issues which would've been done by November

>>84395163
>In my opinion Civil War II is doing a much better job with the moral ambiguity than the first one.

How? Tony started the conflict for dumber reasons.

>>84396023
>ugly art
>characters not acting like themselves
>obvious at this point that it should be written by Spencer but he can't handle that many titles at once

>>84392966
>TOP 100 COMIC BOOKS
> 1. CIVIL WAR II #1 (MAR)

The only thing I hate more than this medium are the consumers of it.

Fucking comics.

>>84397366
That explains All New X-Men. Because that is one seriously Hopeless title.

>>84398155
Bunn was a Marvel guy who did his worst work at DC.

>>84398779
I'd say that book is hopelessly pointless.

>>84398848
Best too. Sinestro is amazing.

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>>84398403
are those the same monster men from the wagner's batman miniserie or another monster men?

Also, I guess the trade for vol 1 will come out during november-december maybe?

>>84398848
>Sinestro
>bad
>im-fucking-plying

>>84398848
Was anything other than Aquaman bad? Sinestro was great

>>84398342
Majority of women and non white male characters sell low, legacy characters and c listers get canacled and so do villian comics.

>>84398848
Yeah no, fuck you. Sinestro was the greatest.

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>>84398955
the very same but they are making a few changes to them
hugo strange is involved in the first Batman arc and will probably be involved in the crossover

Since it appears that here there is a good number of X-fans, I'd like to ask: what's the general opinion of Whedon's work on Astonishing X-Men?
I'm currently reading their first saga in a tradeback with some of their most important arcs and it looked really fun. The quips are hilarious
Also, what's the opinion on Academy X?

>>84399015
Lobo

>>84399313
I prefer whedons X-Men to morrisons. It was a solid story and took them back to space, which is where i prefer them

>>84399313
Both reads are good.

>>84399313

I didnt like the first story that introduces the team and has Cassandra Nova.

I like Danger, but then I also like Fantomex.

>>84399313
I enjoyed Whedon's X-Men, but I like his work in general.

Academy X is a decent read, but nothing to special. I like it, but it's only 'good' not great.

>>84398378
>Kino meta book
What the fuck does that even mean?
How is it meta?

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>>84399451
Thanks

>>84397454
Lemire can't write team books to save his life. I don't know why he even tries.

>>84398848
>Bunn was a Marvel guy who did his worst work at DC.

Bullshit, his DC was better than Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe.

>>84398685
Those are preorders, though.

>>84399553
Cause he can't do worse than bendis?

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>>84399472
The next arc is about Marvel doing a Moon Knight movie, directed by Steven Grant (the real one that wrote a MK run or the fictional MK personality)

>>84398848
Except for Magneto, what good thing did he write for Marvel?

>>84399622
His plots are fucking good, but Lemire doesn't deliver well in writing. Most of it's carried by the artist. His best work was Adventure comics IMO.

>>84399675
Deadpool Secret Secret Wars

>>84399675
His x book is the best of the bunch

>>84399021
Majority of white males sell like shit too

>>84400413
Yeah well, it's okay to give them chance after chance because you know, they have seniority.

>>84392981
lol wow Vertigo is really dead
Doing poorly in trades too

The DarwynCooke one is the one that's done okay

>>84398257
Soule is doing good stuff at image though

>>84400537
What books does he have at Image? Or are you talking about Lemire?

>>84400515
I had hoped for the new run of vertigo books. But they all turned out to be crap. Red Thorn is kinda interesting...but i dropped that at 4 too

>>84400572
Strange attractors is really good but I'm a mathfag

>>84400596
Sheriff and Unfollow are genuinely good, Sheriff is actually pure Kino in terms of quality. Best King book.

>>84400720
Don't know why that keeps falling below my radar when i go to my LCS. Will try to writr it down so i remember

>>84399675
His Fearless Defenders was pretty cool, I thought.

If anyone was arguing that DC was going to outsell Marvel on the back of 18 comic books when the other 40 books they published that week were like Vertigo titles, some digital first books, and the last issues of Black Canary, Dr. Fate, Hellblazer then they are fucking insane.

A more interesting and pertinent question is what will the charts look like next month? August? With the exception of Hellblazer Rebirth, July DC releases should be some pretty big numbers in addition to June Reprints. August sees Harley Quinn #1 with like 25 retailer variants and All-Star Batman. Marvel puts out like one new Civil War tie-in and nothing else in those interim two months.

>>84400596
Gail Simone's Clean room is pretty great.

>the most hyped writer of the year is writing for one of the best-selling capeshit
Can we agree that DC will dominate this year with Batman?

>>84401281
Batman always sells. Doesn't matter who writes or how shitty it is

>>84401281
I hope not.
I don't want another proof that DC, particularly for "DC fans", is Batman and only Batman
Particularly when Aquaman and Green Arrow are so much better and more entertaining

>>84401375
It's usually one of DC's best sellers, but not always in the top ten.

>>84392966
>> 1. CIVIL WAR II #1 (MAR)
They can't keep getting away with it!

>>84401435
>but not always in the top ten
The only time its not in the top ten, and usually towards the top of said top ten, is when Marvel is in the middle of launching a few dozen high profile #1s, which is only a couple months out of any given year.

>>84401470
It was consistently not even in the top 20 in the late 90s up until Jim Lee's Hush, then it slid back down out of the top 20 until Morrison's run. Snyder kept up the momentum and outdid him.

>>84394157
Ah of course. Sales numbers don't reflect how well a company does when compared to the gold standard of a company's success that is the opinions of the lauded correspondents from the Outhouse.

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>>84401551
>90s
I see what you did there

>>84400967
>August sees Harley Quinn #1 with like 25 retailer variants and All-Star Batman.

There's pretty much no chance All-Star Batman doesn't sell like a bajillion copies right?

>>84401770
It's probably gonna have a bunch of variants so it's gonna sell a lot too

I'm curious how it'll do compared to the main Batman title

>>84401551
I think the anon was talking about the relaunch era. Batman is too big of a brand now to fail.

>>84401830
It fell before, it can fall again. There was that brief pre-Morrison window in the 00s when Johns's Green Lantern outsold Batman by almost twice as much. Johns held on that momentum for nine years. Now look at it.

>>84395641

This is the original trilogy Mystique who was GOAT.

Don't forget that Marvel's books are on average priced higher than DC's books, though both companies offer the same page count on average.

Which is to say, Marvel charges a dollar or two more than DC for the same 20 pages of content.

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>>84392966
DC growing its market share