Why do telepaths not care about boundaries?
It's mostly just Mutants.
>>84379350
Because who's gonna stop them?
>>84379359
It's mostly just anyone who has Jean's genes in them.
Because writers.
>>84379350
I think that is the whole thing about telepaths: looking at other people's minds, even without permission.
>>84379350
Mind Reading is hard to detect, easy for them to do, and really useful for them.
If it was something commonplace, we'd have as many social/legal/technological ways of discouraging it as we do spying on people normally.
>>84379350
I remember them meeting before OMD, where they knew who he was, and she was a lot friendlier to him then. Maybe it's just a matter of a masked man who nobody knows being alone with their kids that makes Rachel upset.
>>84379350
Why do you care about people reading your mind, huh? You got something to hide you mutatephobic shitlord? Are you going to be the next Stryker or something???
Same reason you rudely stare at other people instead of staring at the ground when you go outside.
>>84379438
No but if every time I see you I think about the time I kissed your mother, full on the lips in front of your father, that's not something I want YOU to know. It's just common courtesy.
>>84379469
>implying I don't stare at the ground
I truly fear eye contact with strangers.
>>84379438
I'm a mutant. If I catch you reading my mind, it's still not gonna be pretty.
>>84379469
>it's rude not to stare at the ground when you're outside
What. You do realize glancing at your surroundings, including other people, is different from staring, right?
>>84379438
>making excuses for muties
>>84379509
Look me in the eyes and say that shit
Telepaths like this are why Martian Manhunter is angry half the time.
>>84379748
Why is John letting all this happen?
>>84379831
Speaking against the team leader in front of everyone and during the fading heat of a recently resolved matter would probably be detrimental to team synergy.
>>84379896
Why doesn't he force everyone's mind into team synergy.
>>84379831
He strongly suspects, but doesn't know for sure until Arthur tries it again.
>>84379935
Because he's not a fucking mutie. He knows that's a massive dick move.
>>84379350
Because there's no council of Telepaths to stop people from breaking and entering.
>>84379948
Based J'onn.
Dayum shame he isn't getting more exposure with the DCEU. I think he'd make a perfect substitute in JL during Superman's absence.
>>84379953
I guess I'm a mutie then.
>>84379350
Imra cares about your boundaries, anon
>>84379350
>tfw you have the best defense against telepaths thanks to years of jerking off to increasingly weird smut
>>84380068
>smut
>not a series of incomprehensible memeplexes
Writers
Also if they're your enemies than who cares. In the case of mutants they've been seeing everybody as enemies due to discrimination and etc etc
Thats my headcanon
Why they do it to loved ones?
Writers
>>84380120
>not a little from column A, a little from column B
Let's see little miss Grey's face when she tries to go poking around in my head without permission and she finds Poo Poo Pee Pee.
>>84380169
What you need is specialized sexual defenses. Jean and Rachel could probably be dealt with by imagining the most /d/ shit possible being done to them both. At the very least, they'd probably react enough you'd know they're in there.
Emma, though? Her time at the Hellfire Club means she's probably super jaded to things like that.
>>84379406
But, just like it is normally, it would be okay for the government to do it.
>>84380120
>jerking off to a series of incomprehensible memeplexes
I bet that would make a telepath even more eager to read your mind just to see how the fuck it works.
>>84380203
Soooo. What? You imagine something happy and nice for Emma?
>>84379350
>hes protecting his mind from me so I cant read his thoughts
>hes obviously up to no good!
Its like gun control.
>>84379350
>>84379693
You know, as much of a fun series that was (even if it has now left us stuck with Glob Herman), the main thing I hated was how overly antagonistic the X-Men sans Iceman were to Peter for no reason, especially when Spider-Man is an old friend of theirs.
>>84380273
No, just herself as a teenager. Mousy brown hair, average intelligence, flat chest, optimistic and sweet-natured. Being confronted with her former self that she has tried so hard to bury would drive her quite mad.
>>84380139
>In the case of mutants they've been seeing everybody as enemies due to discrimination and etc etc
#mutantlivesmatter
Man, if I could read minds, I'd do it to everyone I could too. It'd be like living in a different world.
If someone was suddenly immune to your powers, you'd also be curious as to why.
>>84380341
See, I didn't mind it AS MUCH because the series was clearly a comedy, and they played up their antagonism for laughs. Iceman was a bit weird, but whatever.
>>84380273
>lol, plastic cowtits, 2/10 would not fuck
Watch as she falls to her knees, crying
>>84380297
What's weird is only this time she's so heavily interested in reading his mind, but when Spock was in control during the Avenging series, somehow saying it would be bad for their image was godawful. Character inconsistency abounds when you have multiple writers having to write around each other's plots.
>>84380421
>Iceman was a bit weird, but whatever.
He clearly wanted to fuck him.
![460732-x_men452_page_11[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xl1Ri2W.jpg "460732-x_men452_page_11[1].jpg")
>>84380439
Wouldn't work. Rachel tried a similar thing once.
>>84380477
Fuck off Jean.
>>84379350
>daily reminder that Aqualad was just doing his job when he got raped by one
>>84380381
>Mousy brown hair, average intelligence, flat chest, optimistic and sweet-natured.
>Being confronted with her former self that she has tried so hard to bury would drive her quite mad.
I don't even know shit about Emma Frost and I am already going mad trying to picture her like this.
>>84380477
>>84380489
I can only imagine it's a good thing O5 Jean has never met Spidey and Modern Iceman. She'd probably try to make them gay for eachother.
>>84380520
>implying she doesn't ship Spidey and the Human Torch
>>84380536
She's met Firestar, right? She probably ships them because lolfire.
>attack type:psychic
>flip a coin
>if heads, deal 50 damage to self
>if tails deal 50 damage to enemy
>>84380139
Also: if you have a superpower you should be able to use it.
Its real hard NOT to be a dick telepath.
>>84380584
Firestar lusted after Scarlet Spider dick though. Then her existential crisis of being sterile lead to some retarded ass drama.
>>84380479
God, everyone in Rachel's conjured vision has been ruined since then.
Except for maybe Cannonball, if that's who popped collar there is. I forget that costume's owner.
>>84380381
>Mousy brown hair, average intelligence, flat chest, optimistic and sweet-natured.
I don't think I could think of that without imagining doing something lewd to her.Of the loving vanilla variety, of course.
>>84380657
Oh no, what did they do to Kurt?
>>84380694
Killed him, replaced him with AoA Kurt, brought back the real one and had him grow out metal head hair.
Not quite Bishop's "The Worst Villain in Human History" I know. But it's still a big ass dump on him.
>>84380746
You didn't even mention how stupidly the real one was brought back
>>84379378
No, it's all female telepaths. Jean, Rachael, Emma, the Cuckoos, all of them.
![nightcrawler-amazing-x-men[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w6NAPqF.jpg "nightcrawler-amazing-x-men[1].jpg")
>>84380821
Hey, at least he got to take over a pirate ship.
>>84379370
Xavier if he wasn't dead. He (retcons mostly) did some shitty things, but all the telepaths fucking shit up didn't happen with him around.
>>84380827
Beartato, Beartato
>>84379748
>>84380016
This. Pre Nu52 J'onn was the most moral and responsible telepath in fiction. God damn, I miss those days.
>>84380889
What
>>84380479
Scott and Emma a best
>>84380233
Not while the 5th amendment is still a thing. The EU would probably say no to it and I can't see the UK legalising it quickly at the moment.
>>84380871
Yeah because everyone knows what happened to the Shadow King.
>>84381171
That is some goddamn naivete.
>>84380694
They gave him a stupid story where he literally just teleported out of heaven to come back from the dead. Also he's missing his soul which one might recognize as extremely important to a practicing christian.
Kurt is so nice that it hasn't changed him much but that's still something that everyone should be far more concerned about.
>>84381604
>teleported out of heaven to come back from the dead.
What?
>Also he's missing his soul
What.
But if you teleported out of heaven as a soul then you should be--I mean the fact the Celestial X-Gene power even worked in heaven is--doesn't this imply he could bring other people back by--Oh for fuck's sake.
>>84380959
I think he means the old saying:
>You say "Beartato" I say "Beartato."
>>84381781
I told you it was retarded.
He had to use his soul to bind/trap the one we all refuse to believe is his father.
>>84379350
>>84379438
>>84379693
This is why people hate muties. Not because they have powers-whens the last time someone gave Martian Manhunter shit-but because they're dicks that need someone to slap their smug face and tell them no.
>>84380203
/d/ is pretty vanilla though.
>>84379948
>>84380016
>>84380946
I want there to be a series of J'onn riding herd on Earth's telepath population. He makes sure they're doing okay and not dicking with people and helps them control their powers and learn to use them responsibly.
Imagine Akira, but suddenly J'onn.
>>84382057
>Imagine Akira, but suddenly J'onn.
Now that you mention it a visual spectacle of J'onn's shapeshifting powers and mindfuckery are sorely lacking. Maybe it would seem like a retread of Tetsuo but I honestly don't give a damn, the time is now to rid the superhero wave as hard as possible. DC should be pushing every last possible property as hard as possible in every way possible. A Martian Manhunter OVA like you describe would be genius.
>>84381171
>The EU would probably say no to it
I would think that EU would be very much inclined to abuse mind probing for their own ends.
>>84382152
>Tetsuo is what puberty is like for Martians
>Lonely troubled psychic kid angrily lashes out at the world Carrie/Chronicle/Akira style
>"NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME! NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND ME!"
>J'onn understands
>Their fight takes place in the mindscape and in reality as they both go full body-horror blob.
>J'onn is the father figure the psychic kid never had
>It ends with him hugging the kid as he/she cries
>>84379350
I honestly think that telepaths are the responsible for mutant rights being in the shitter.
I mean sure, guy that shoots lasers from his eyes is pretty terrifying as well, but being shot by your neighbour's gun will make you equally dead.
Muties that go feral, yea, that's pretty terrifying as well, but again, it's not that different from a mentally deranged human deciding to commit ritual morders or drive a truck through a classroom.
Sure, some mutants are powerful enough that they require military intervention, but it's not that much different from terrorists.
Psychics on the other hand are a threat to an individual on a whole other level.
They know all your secrets, they can kill you with a thought, they can take control over your body, they can torture you without even being in the same room.
Worst thing is that they're impossible for regular police to apprehend.
>>84381604
>teleported out of heaven
Ignoring absolutely everything that's wrong and terrible with this...
It does make a very slight amount of sense. Doesn't he basically travel through hell every time he teleports, or was that just for x-men evo?
>>84379378
>Jean's genes
>>84382640
It's a hellish dimension and qualifies Azrael as a hell lord (there are multiple hell dimensions) but it's not an actual afterlife hell.
The Fantastic Four teleported into heaven by changing the settings on Doom's time machine to go the opposite direction as it was set towards Mephisto's hell. God found it fairly clever but immediately banned that from ever working again.
TLDR No and even if it would work it was banned from working directly by God(Jack Kirby).
>>84379693
What the fuck is wrong with her arm and face!?
>>84382754
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTS
>>84382838
One day she's gonna be Hokage.
>>84380991
NOT EVEN BENDIS CAN BREAK THEM UP PERMANENTLY. SOMEDAY THE BEST SHIP WILL SAIL AGAIN.
Can we all agree on who the best telepath is though? (its emma you faggots)
>>84383545
Has Emma even showed up in anything recently?
>>84383668
She disappeared with Scott. Shes either dead or in hiding. Hopefully the latter with Scott. Iguess we only have to wait for Death of X.
>>84383642
In what universe?
Karma, Rachel,Legion, Franklin, and Dr Strange are all superior.
Whatever happened to Rachel anyway?
And Hope for that matter.
>>84380479
Wait Emma's secretly a fatass?
>>84379350
Emma's just a bitch and doesn't care. most of the others are wirtten by either lazy writers (mind read, it's the fastest way to expedite this set up) or people with illogical morality (Bendis)
telepathy is literally a lazy mode sidestep solution to most problems.
>>84386349
Secretly insecure about herself/appearance. the old pretty popular girl has issues/thinks she's ugly etc tropes.
Emma's also canonically had plastic surgery, so appearance anxiety is there.
>>84385505
We can only pray that she died a horrific death from mutie pox.
>>84386547
The other problem is that everything that held telepaths in check is ignored by modern writers.
Years of training against telepathic attack and defenses setup by Professor X are now useless.
Characters with complete immunity or resistant to telepaths get mindfucked at the drop of a hat.
Technological jamming no longer works as apparently psychics can now hack past scrambling signals.
That's not even getting into stuff like Wolverine being programmed by Rachel to automatically hunt down and kill anyone that messes with his brain one month and then Jean05 turning his brain off without immediately getting a snik the next.
>>84386800
>That's not even getting into stuff like Wolverine being programmed by Rachel to automatically hunt down and kill anyone that messes with his brain one month and then Jean05 turning his brain off without immediately getting a snik the next.
What the shit.
>>84386853
It's Bendis. We all know he ignores continuity.
>>84380341
>>84380871
>>84383732
You know, if there actually is an active effort to damage/destroy the X-men property (like some have speculated), by killing off all the leadership characters, they have effectivrly ruined the entire franchise.
so.. how IS Spiderman protecting his brain here?
>>84379438
> liberty is more important than security
>>84386625
Emma was not a popular girl, she was quite the outcast as a girl.
we need someone to kick these telepaths shit in
>>84387932
One of his students that is a psychic brain in a jar is protecting him.
>>84387932
Martha is blocking Rachel from doing it.
Spider-sense also somewhat blocks psychics (never been rested on Rachel level psychics though) but that's the sort of things writers and editors don't bother to remember nowadays.
>>84381790
But you're just sayin Beartato twice it makes no sense!
>>84388010
Spider Man and the X men was such shit fest
>>84388098
>>84387962
>>84388098
Same anon?
>>84388098
it was worth the lulz
Why would you, if you had telepathy?
>>84388237
There are some people, and this may be hard for you to believe, that respect others privacy, pr have some sense of ethics, or simply don't care enough what others think.
>>84379350
Because they're assholes with next to no accountability since like 99% can't do shit about it
>>84380341
>even if it has now left us stuck with Glob Herman
What?
>>84388489
Aren't we unaccountable mostly on anonymous image boards?
...And mostly assholes?
You may be onto something.
>>84388282
>Humanity
>Ethics
Ethics are a meme
>>84379350
boundaries are fucking stupid. if everyone was wide open all the time we'd have no problems.
Be honest here, is the expected standard one of assumed equal footing?
Does that mean that when you're hanging out with Daredevil it's a violation of his boundaries if you don't keep your eyes closed?
>>84389781
Daredevil can smell you lying and hear what you had for breakfast. He's practically telepathic with the level of sensory data he gets on you.
>>84389781
I fail to understand the equivalence of digging through another man's thoughts to that.
>>84379350
Degenerate telepaths need to be punched in the mind by Superman. Go ahead and try to read HIS mind.
Has anyone mentioned yet that Spiderman became a Jean Grey School For Gifted Mutants teacher specifically to act as a spy?
Or that he was acting noticeably suspicious in every single issue of that miniseries?
Or that he was one of the Avengers who went to war with Utopia to stop the Phoenix from coming back?
Or are we just intent on finding a reason to distrust empowered and brainy women?
>>84390150
>specifically to act as a spy
Fairly sure he was there to find a spy, not act like one
>>84389879
Well do you at least take as much umbrage at the notion that Daredevil is spying on what you had for breakfast?
>>84390205
Counter-espionage is still spycraft. Especially if it's covert.
>>84390150
>suspicious
He did literally nothing wrong, unless muties count non-muties helping them as wrong, they even fucking admit that their biggest problem with him was the mask, they don't come up with any other reason to distrust him.
>>84387986
A dysfunctional childhood full of abuses, issues with a troublesome sibling, becoming a runaway who ended up under the influence of a powerful mutant, and getting quite the makeover from that awkward slim child that they once were.
Remind you of anyone else? ( >>84380991 )
>>84379350
Who is this cutie?
So the X-Men is cool with Spidey now, right? They stop antagonizing and hating him for no reason, right?
>>84390537
Peter Parker
>>84379350
Imagine if the hottest chick imaginable was walking around without clothes on, but you couldn't look because 'nooooooooo muh boundaries'.
That's what telepaths deal with every single day.
>>84380871
Even if Chucky is dead, his mind might have been separate from his body when he died and is still ghosting around and making Storm go crazy and see things that aren't there.
>>84390636
That is not even close, it's more like breaking and entering.
>>84390551
>cool with Spidey?
Don't know, didn't SpOck do something to piss them off when he was in the pissing-everyone-off phase of his Parker life stealing?
>>84390753
No, that's how telepaths work. They have to be taught how not to instinctively feel minds.
>>84390753
You sure about that?
The text all clearly say they can hear stray thoughts just like if people were talking out loud.
Even memories and imagined images are picked up and seen without intentional actions on their part.
Some stories have even had telepaths become upset from feeling the unwelcomed negative emotions of people to the point where they are forced to physically flee from it.
Those emitting these thoughts and feelings aren't the ones suffering for it.
>>84385505
I want Hope to become a villain that thinks she is the only one who can save all of mutant kind. Give her a "messiah complex" if you will
>>84380203
you forget that Rachel was a slave used as a tracking dog most of her life, she's been mounted like a bitch and degraded a few times I'm sure
>>84390213
Isn't that something that he just gets to do without specifically thinking about it?
Telepaths go out of their way to be dicks
>>84391000
Well, maybe people should stop thinking then.
>>84380479
I have this weird image that Emma doesn't actually wear the near-nude clothes she's drawn as wearing, but actually just wears a shirt (probably Scott's) and a pair of tracksuit pants, and just mentally projects an image of what she's wearing into everybody's minds.
Maximum comfort.
>>84379350
To be fair, she was just being a next level bitch and her hating spider man seemed Looney tunes level so of course she didn't care
>>84390753
It depends, some have an off switch while others are drowned in thoughts but just tune stuff out.
>>84379350
I wonder...if I have dirty/lustful/racist/impure thoughts about a person, and a telepath happens to hear my thoughts/the person is a telepath themselves, is it morally wrong for them to acknowledge my thoughts?
Is it only wrong if they were purposefully reading my thoughts?
Am I in the wrong for not censoring my thoughts?
Does political correctness/sexual misconduct or harrassment apply to unspoken, unwritten thought?
>>84393887
Were you mentally "shouting" them, or was the telepath deliberately reading your mind?
I suppose it depends on how the telepathy works.
>>84393887
I mean according to the Stepford Coocoos yes, they threatened to mindwipe a kid for fantasizing privately about them.
In reality no and it would be nice if we had a story about that instead of the Stepfords being right for threatening murder over a possibly involuntary action because they're girls.
>>84393887
In addition: I feel like a trained telepath would HAVE to know the difference between sincere beliefs and the weird, fucked up things that flash in our heads for a second before we go, "Wow that was fucked up, I don't really believe that.". The problem is a lot of telepaths were created in the 60s when we knew even less about the mind than we do now.
>>84393430
Traditionally its been a confidence thing. I dunno I'm fine with Emma dressing skimpy, she's clearly into it.
>>84379438
Bruh if im thinking about how my small dick is making me sad, the fuck are you gonna do about it?
Actually that sounds like a nice porn plot
>guy is acting insecure about something
>telepath reads his mind to find out
>ends with pity sex or s&m
Rachel is still my favorite mutant.
Does that make me gay?
>>84393985
I don't think it's gay for men to like women, but who knows
>>84393917
I'm assuming everyone has looked at another person (depending on your sexual preferences) and had at least one thought like "I would slather his/her [x] with whipped cream and go to town", or even made a mental image of ourselves performing an act/having one performed on us.
Assuming these thoughts are voluntary, or that we purposefully concentrated on having them, and that they involve a person who may or may not be a telepath, do these thoughts count as sexual harrassment?
In a world with telepaths, can charges of telepathic sexual harrassment be brought up in court?
>>84380608
Jean had to seriously struggle just to screen the thoughts of others *out*.
>>84379350
They used to.
Or maaybe they don't even care enough enymore to brainwash us into believing they do.
>>84380029
Right before she get chloroformed.
>>84394468
So she's instinctively an eavesdropping nosy violator of the privacy of others?
>>84394595
Adult Jean has always been capable of respecting the privacy of others.
If I had to make a theory I'd think that it's because Adult Jean probably knows why the professor locked her powers in the first place while 05 Jean probably doesn't remember/know of the trauma she got when her powers activated as her best friend died via being run over by a truck.
