He's 100% right.
No he isn't
>>84369356
Isn't the whole point of that guy that he's an over educated idiot more interested in shilling his own interests than actually helping anyone?
>>84369408
yes
>>84369356
>Bad people aren't responsible for their actions
I wonder which party he votes for
>>84369408
Just like OP, minus the over educated part.
>>84369356
Criminals dindu nuffin
There's a video on YouTube (which I can't find, sadly) where qualified psychiatrists discuss whether or not Batman actually IS crazy. They all agree that he's not exactly a picture of mental health, but he doesn't really fit into any actual mental disorder, because the people who do wouldn't do what Bruce has done i.e. become a vigilante (specifically, one with a no-kill policy).
In fact, the one disorder he DOES have is thanatophobia - a fear of death. THAT is why Batman doesn't kill The Joker... he's too traumatised by the death of his parents to take another life.
>>84369408
and whats the deal with him looking like Hitler?
>>84370479
Or he's just a fictional character.
>>84369356
And then Harvey turns out to still be crazy anyway.
>Bad people are bad because someone else programmed them to be that way
Wew. The funny thing is people who actually believe this will vote for Hillary Clinton.
>>84369708
That was the point if the whole book.
Liberals are useless
>>84369408
The point of him is Frank Miller complaining about liberals.
>>84369356
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnLA4Iw7FHA
He's 100% wrong, even the villains themselves admit it.
>>84369708
He's a blatant liberal strawman. What do you expect?
>>84370784
Yeah, villains go, "Batman made me do it!" as a challenge for the hero to overcome, and like Joker going, "Lol I dare you to kill me cause I know you won't!" the trick became so effective it turned into part of the character which...sort of ruined the trick.
They need to take a break from both gimmicks.
>>84370794
I think, "What the fuck is wrong with gotham that it needs at Batman?" is a legitimate point and could even be a cool story.
The problem is writers (and fans) suddenly forgetting that Bruce ISN'T a playboy venting a childhood trauma in the faces of petty criminals. Batman using Bruce Wayne and the Wayne foundation to try and fight crime through social and economic means has been a significant part of the character since the bronze age.
Wayne, like Queen, is the last of a tradition in American capitalism where the rich were expected, as a tradition within their social class, to give back to the cities that made their fortunes; build bridges, fund police retirement funds, revamp government buildings so the city doesn't have to shoulder that cost. I think you could get a lot of cool stories out of ultramodern vulture capitalists taking brutal advantage of what they'd see as a weakness in the Wayne business plan.
What I'm saying is lets push Great White Shark for summer slam.
>/co/ thinks people actually act like this
Goddammit, go outside sometime.
>>84370859
There really aren't enough stories about regular business vs Bruce. The mob, sure, but actual, legitimate business.
>>84370859
That was never true. It was just rich people becoming above the law by owning everything. They still do that.
>>84370928
Zap some news channels for 5 minutes, you will hear someone blaming black violence on society.
>>84370716
Overeducated people love their system. They apply it to everything they can. If they don't work in their field, it looks really silly.
>>84369356
Where were you when Frank BTFO liberals?
>>84370735
the book isn't keen on reagan either, IIRC
everyone is useless except batman
All the people saying this is a liberal strawman must be too young to remember that throughout the 90s the exact same argument was being rolled out by the religious right and conservatives. Pokemon? The work of the devil. D&D? Turns kids into satanists. Rap? Turns whites into thugs. Cultivation theory isn't a political tool, it's been used by hacks across the political spectrum for decades and decades, whether it's idiots on the right complaining about violent video games or idiots on the left complaining about sexist video games.
>>84370859
>I think, "What the fuck is wrong with gotham that it needs at Batman?" is a legitimate point and could even be a cool story.
>Wayne, like Queen, is the last of a tradition in American capitalism where the rich were expected, as a tradition within their social class, to give back to the cities that made their fortunes; build bridges, fund police retirement funds, revamp government buildings so the city doesn't have to shoulder that cost.
Having not delved too deep into this: Weren't a lot of the old stories about gangsters trying to rob charity events and shit? Like, old villains were sort of there to fuck with Batman not as a pissing match with another looney, but because Bruce Wayne in trying to do good made himself a target?
>>84371182
While this is true, comics have been hit especially hard by it from all sides. One can kind of see why a comic author would roll it into whatever opposition strawman he uses.
>>84370735
If liberals are useless, then how come green arrow was the one who got to for the kryptonite arrow?
>>84369356
But he was clearly wrong
>>84371239
what?
>>84369356
The only villain one could sort of argue Batman created is the Joker (and even that is debatable depending on what origin you believe). Everyone else would still be a criminal even without Batman, and would probably have caused far more damage without a Batman to stop them.
>>84369356
>>84369356
See, Wolfman has an ability not to blame the victim, not to blame the criminal, but to blame the law protecting people by saying batman caused his criminals.
He blames media for popularizing batman and he thinks too much about analysis, calling two-face an ideological doppelgänger to Batman? Dude, the guys a criminal, Batman just tries to take him down.
What I like about TDKR Bruce is despite our idea of him being downright psychotic, he's merely a reaction to the world around him. That's probably the one thing he relates to Harvey about, Bruce tries to ignore his batman side but he can't just as Harvey can't ignore two-face. But that being said, he also has different considerations for different villains, instead of an all or nothing approach. Bruce Wayne actually funded Dents rehabilitation, Mutant leader doesn't get punished he gets systematically taken out through strategy, there's no holds barred on Joker Batman just goes nuts and does literally anything he wants but kill him, and when the government wants to hunt batman down for being a better sheriff to Gotham, he treats Yindel as a basically a threat to ignore, and Superman a threat to tackle to the ground and scare him because that's the only option. Batman wasn't trying to kill superman. He was trying to scare people. Supes by beating him to an inch of his life, gov for fighting superman.
The best part about the animated movie wasthe Christopher Reeve superman poster, implying that supes is Chris
>>84371086
This page BTFO liberals as much as that Red Skull page BTFO conservatives.
Which is to say, not all all.
>>84371269
That's what happened in TDKR, which is what this page is from.
>>84371372
The whole thing was Batwank.
>>84371395
I know what comic this is, but that sentence makes no sense
>>84371182
Too young or don't care because it goes against their rhetoric. Don't worry, if trump did become president they'll spin left out of contrainism faster than this guy's head.
>>84370859
This. Would be good to see Wayne Enterprises actually showing some progress and seeing some characters that did reform thanks to bruce.
>>84371409
How does it not?
Anon said "Liberals are useless". Another anon countered with an example the same book having a liberal be very useful.
>>84371448
>how come green arrow was the one who got to for the kryptonite arrow
>>84371239
Because, later in his life, he understood that our guilty conscience may force us to vote Democratic, but deep down inside, we secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalise criminals and rule us like a king!
>>84369362
Test.
>>84371228
Comics got hit by it so hard they never fully recovered.
It's why Stan Lee personally came to testify during the video game bullshit
>>84370928
I have seem worst things on my College.
>>84370829
it's funny how libtards gets triggered when people make fun of them in the same way they strawman their opponents
>>84371494
HA HA TRIGGERED LIBTARDS AM I RIGHT?
SUCH HYPOCRITES.
BUILD WALL.
>>84370928
People blaming the media for their problems is pretty common. You even see it here all the time.
>>84371480
How neat. Link?
>>84369708
>>Bad people aren't responsible for their actions
but that was always agreed on
the only new thing is blaming everything on batman
>>84371511
>being this butthurt
>>84371006
but it is because of society. your society is shit, americans.
>>84371494
Are you implying that doesn't go 100% both ways?
There are threads dedicated to outrage over conservative strawmen and ironic SJW posting on this board every single day.
>>84369356
Didn't Harvey Dent become Two-Face because some mobster threw acid in his face?
I think it's disingenuous to reduce the claim that there are societal forces that push people towards crime in order to equate it with "bad people aren't responsible for their own actions!"
Of course those people are responsible for their actions. But you don't have to deny that to acknowledge that one is influenced by their surroundings and limitations.
Yes the claim that Batman creates crime is dumb. But that claim is not equal to the notion that blacks (ie, the impoverished, because when we come down to it most violent crime is by the poor and a higher percentage of blacks are poor compared to the percentage of whites, that is pretty much the largest reason why they appear to have a disproportionate amount of crime) commit crime because of their lot in life.
>>84371616
a mobster he and Batman worked together to bring in I think
>>84370716
>I enjoy my characters 2d and unanalyzed
>>84371571
LOL SO BUTTHURT AM I RIGHT?
LOOK AT THAT GUY HA HA BUILD WALL.
>>84371022
I feel like I must have become desensitized to comics.
People look at stuff like this image and talk about how wacky comics are, and how they should never take themselves seriously because they're about people in spandex costumes.
I've read comics all my life so maybe the patently ridiculous nature is just not apparent to me. But I think being set in a world with values dissimilar to our own does not preclude the need for pathos and good storytelling.
>>84371650
Pretty much. If given a chance, many of those people probably wouldn't have turned to crime, but since they never got it, they went for the easiest option available.
>>84371651
That doesn't really have anything to do with the claim that Batman is a social ill. It could have been any criminal, Batman's involvement is incidental.
>>84371725
You guys seriously don't have enough brain capacity to understand Miller's writing if you think this character is "100% right" or "100% wrong". Everyone in this book is a strawman for whatever ideology they represent, and everyone is wrong or right depending on where you lean on the political spectrum. The Dark Knight universe is a satirical futuristic nightmare world very similar to Robocop.
The only one who's right in this book is Batman because Batman is fucking bad ass and that's the point.
>>84371725
>>84371731
At the end of the day, no matter what Luthor may claim, he's just a selfish asshole that doesn't like Superman because he prevents him from doing whatever he wants.
That's it. All he cares about is power, he doesn't care about humanity as anything but tools.
>>84371408
And Watchmen was Rorschach wank, am I right?
>>84370716
Do you think that's clever? Because it's not.
>>84371494
>triggered when people make fun of them in the same way they strawman their opponents
>exclusively liberal
Is this your first day on /co/?
>>84371672
Reality and grounded stories=/=good storytelling
>>84371760
But then...
>>84371651
Not originally. Maybe in a later retelling of the story.
>>84371494
/co/ does nothing but get triggered anon
>>84371718
Not part of whatever argument you're having, just reafirming what you thought
>>84371798
Anonymity turns every third person into a raw exposed nerve of emotion that explodes all over whenever they have the chance to.
>>84371761
But it's right.
>>84370716
http://lawandthemultiverse.com/
It's fun.
I'll never understand why people put this as their #1 comic, it's 85% filler talking head shit
>>84371494
>Liberals are one person
>>84371966
>muh miller
>muh batman
>muh batman vs superman
>>84371755
No, Watchmen very clearly portrayed Rorsharch as a flawed person who was not always in the right. All of the characters in Watchmen were.
TDKR is just a long Chick Tract with more intersting art.
>>84371269
The guys point is that Millers not 100% against Liberals because Batmans only superhero buddy in the story shown was Oliver who is as liberal as they come.
To which I would also say Oliver being Batmans only friend so late in the game makes sense because green arrow is so similar to batman it only makes sense
>>84370716
WOAH!
mindblown!
>>84371988
they act like an hivemind
>>84372231
They don't. People may also think conservatives also act like a hivemind, but they don't either.
Taking American politics alone into consideration, there are over three hundred million people in America, and about 40 % of the voting age populace considers themselves liberal. Acting like all of them think the same and share the same opinions is disingenuous.
>>84372013
>Implying Miller's Batman wasn't flawed.
Because Miller doesn't show it on the surface as hacks like Snyder or Johns do, doesn't mean he wasn't a flawed character.
>>84371262
Was he?
The only reason the Joker started killing again was because the batman showed up again, right?
The Joker wouldn't have ever existed if the Bruce has spent all that money on the Gotham Police instead of just on himself
Why couldn't Batman just train the police to act that way?
>>84371540
Didn't testify, I misremembered. Just wrote about it and sent it
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/19/stan-lee-defends-video-game-first-amendment-rights/
>>84372359
I thought the point of all of batman's inner monologues in TDKR were to show how damaged he was. All of them were fairly sad.
>>84372414
But people still keep complaining about Miller's Batman being a Mary sue, while Batman developed as a character throughout the comic, and so did the city and its citizens.
>>84372485
People also thought Rorschach was the hero.
People are bad with subtlety in comics.
>>84372518
he was the hero. that doesn't mean he was a good person
>>84369356
He's Jack Thompson and Jon McIntosh 30 years early.
>>84372392
He's talking about Harvey, though.
Joker did act because of Batman's return, he also exists because of Batman. But he's pretty much unique in that regard, the only one that OP's psychologist's reasoning can be applied to. Why stop being Batman because of just one guy? Joker may do a lot of shit, but that's just a small fragment of the crime that goes on in Gotham. So, on the whole, I'd say Batman is needed.
>The Joker wouldn't have ever existed if the Bruce has spent all that money on the Gotham Police instead of just on himself
>Why couldn't Batman just train the police to act that way?
Just throwing money at something doesn't always work. And if Batman can do what a whole police force can't, I'd say it's more the man trained than the training provided.
>>84372547
He wasn't the hero. From the perspective of the mystery part of the plot, he was the protagonist. But he wasn't the hero of the story.
Arguably no one is, and arguably Ozzy is. I think Watchmen eschews the Monomyth, making pointing to a single character that could be considered a hero difficult.
ZEX, UND ZEX, UND ZEX
>>84372626
LMAO. And why is having a psychologically competent military a bad thing? Besides, I'm pretty sure most of the WW2 soldiers were just inexperienced men and boys pulled from their families and given a gun, not properly trained soldiers that chose to join, like we have today.
>>84370859
It's Noblesse Oblige anon. The term you're looking for is noblesse oblige.
>>84372711
>And if Batman can do what a whole police force can't, I'd say it's more the man trained than the training provided.
I think the bigger issue is that Batman operates outside the law. Having one person act that way is sketchy. Having a whole goddamn police force act that way would be bad fucking news.
>>84372794
When you've grown up rich and sheltered, the needs of brave soldiers never occur to you. After all, war is fought by poor folks. For people like them, they're just tools to make pro-censorship political points.
>>84369356
>every anti-social act can be traced to the media
>anti-social acts predate the media
>>84372933
cave paintings are a cancer to society and must be banned
t. og the caveman
>>84371650
That is black's exclusive fault though. If you ever visit the ghettos, you'll notice a culture there. If you try to keep your head down, study hard and try to get a better life, people will make fun of you and try to keep you down.
Malcolm X or MLK said once that black people are their own biggest enemies and he was completely spot on
>>84372794
>>84372928
I think the implication they're aiming for is that Vidya desensitized players. A psychologically prepared army is fine but they want that to be evidence it turned kids into sociopaths.
>>84372998
Nigga you can't say shit like MLK or Malcolm Xbox said blacks are their own worst enemy and back it up with nothing. especially in a fucking time when black kids were getting killed in horrific terrorist attacks and people were getting lynched. That shits just fucking unrealistic.
>>84373002
It's pretty clear neither of them have fired a gun in their lifetimes, or ever saw someone seriously hurt up close.
It's hard to imagine how sheltered someone could be to honestly believe something like that.
>>84373052
Everyone is getting killed by horrific terrorist attacks, terrorists don't discrimante when they go ALLAHU AKBAR, I have no idea why you singled out the black community. Same for the lynching, in fact I'll sooner watch a few white cops being lynched because of that recent video.
And their reasoning is perfectly fine, ghetto culture is absolute trash and completely toxic, unless your dream is to drugs and get shot in a gang rivalry at age 26. But for some reason the black community doesn't want to let go of it, and as long as that happens, they are their own worst enemy
>>84372794
I don't think that was the point they were making. They said that vidyas make you violent.
>>84373127
I'm pretty sure he was referring to the KKK when he said "terrorists", you absolute moron.
>>84373272
That makes him an even bigger idiot. Show me the burning crosses or mass shootings by KKK members, then we'll talk
>>84373311
He was talking about the 50s, idiot.
>>84373311
Pretty sure that anon was talking about the civil rights era, when MLK and Malcom X were still alive.
He's a liberal straw man in a fascist masturbation fantasy, and yet he still makes good points about joker being harmless without batman, and the consequences of hoodlums turning into wannabe batman copycats. Frank Miller was too busy going "DURR HURR STOOPID JEW- I MEAN - LIBRULS THINKING CRIMINALS ARENT JUST BORN EVIL FOR NO APPARENT REASON" to notice his straw man was almost basically right.
>>84369408
>over-education
Are you american?
>>84369408
The point is that he's a gay liberal intellectual who loves criminals and those people are going to ruin America and something has to be done.
>>84373127
A black man was lynched in Atlanta a couple days ago
>>84374127
Not to mention a couple of them were shot by terrorist cops this last week.
>>84371750
I'd highly recommend reading Martha Washington, particularly the first book. Despite the administration being a ridiculous hippy strawman world where red meat is outlawed, they are almost unquestionably the good guys.
>>84371461
The comic ransacks Democrats and Republicans both. You have the psychologist idiot, but the comic also makes fun of the President (who looks like Ronald Reagan) and that fuckstick with a gun who just goes crazy on people in the street when he thinks the world is ending: "It was the end of the world and I had a gun". The way it plays out, depending on how you want to look at it, you could argue Batman is either a libertarian who takes matters into his own hands, government and established "legal" authorities be damned, or as fascistic because all that matters is his will, his way.
>>84371494
>complaining about strawmen with a bold, sweeping generalization
Amazing.
>>84370994
the 'truth' of Nobless Oblige is debatable but it was something taugfht to the wealthy upperclass. "You owe society, especially the underclass, a debt. Without them you could not be where you are. Fund means of transit to aid the worker in reaching his destination. Fund soup kitchens to feed the hungry, fund flophoises to hoise the homeless. Make a difference and repay the faith that was placed in you."
now we don't have that, nevermind that business has changed so radically in terms of what can make you money when compared with what was profitable even 30 years ago.
>>84374062
Holy shit you're retarded
Thinking post 9/11 Miller is the same as 80s Miller, good lord.
>Fascist
Batman is not part of the state, and holds no legitimate authority, he inherently cannot be fascist.
>>84371586
This tbqh famalamadingdong.
>>84374213
It was just a joke making a reference to an oldSimpsonsepisode
>>84374174
President Howard Nissen is a good guy, but he's naive and surrounded by horrible people who are doing their damnedest to ruin him.
>>84374348
Shit. Which one?
>>84374384
The one where Sideshow Bobs becomes mayor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXU2vZTTeMU
>>84374449i'm waiting for Trump's attack ad about how Hillary spends her time attending weddings of Big Businessmen like Donald Trump
>>84374222
Noblesse Oblige was not a "truth" but an educational measure to ensure that the upper class wasn't hated completely by the lower classes, since it's also the basic idea of the fact that most times, they wouldn't be rich without those in classes beneath them.
>>84369356
If you're a fucking pussy,i am sure ghetto shit holes would be happy to have Batman.
This thread right here.
>>84369356
No.He's Frank's strawman liberal. He shoehorns in one in a lot of his works.
>>84371461
I miss when people could take a joke about their politics. Kelsey Grammer is a republican and he loved delivering that line.
>>84374230
>Batman is not part of the state, and holds no legitimate authority, he inherently cannot be fascist.
That's an arbitrary line. The only thing that makes the state have authority is what it can enforce and what people accept.
>>84374062
This.
>>84372998
>>84373052
I think the important thing here is to remember to judge individuals by their actions. Content of character and all that.
Making any generalization about white, black, whatever, just legitimizes prejudice.
>>84371339
>>84372392
>>84374062
Was he right about Batman and Joker?
>>84375268
>I think the important thing here is to remember to judge individuals by their actions. Content of character and all that.
When the opportunity cost is low, of course this is what you should do.
>Making any generalization about white, black, whatever, just legitimizes prejudice.
Closing your eyes to reality causes schizophrenia.
At some point for anyone the opportunity cost for not using statistical predictors in their decision making becomes too great. Phenotypes unfortunately are very powerful predictors.
Making general observations about whites and blacks can legitimize prejudice ... but that's not nearly enough reason not to do it.
>>84375735
why is he barefoot?
>>84376826
Because he's a filthy hippy, obviously
>>84376826
Bleeding heart social science-major hippie liberal.
>>84371239
He's not a democrat, he's a radical nature-loving hippy, he's all over the scale.
>>84375238
Not in fascist terms. The state is a separate entity according to fascism, which holds the supreme right of liberty above every other individual, who are to obey the state. If Miller was a fascist, he would've portrayed a fascist Batman differently. Batman was more randian than fascist.
>>84370759
This. The weird thing is that this guy isn't based on any real person, just an imagined one, one that would argue against the death penalty or believe that criminals are just mentally ill and can be cured. People who have mental hospitals to fill. People like Batman.
I love The Dark Knight Returns, but there are some awkward weak points.
>>84374062
>DURR HURR STOOPID JEW- I MEAN - LIBRULS
There's nothing to suggest Miller has antisemitic opinions.
>>84377488
There are people like that who exist.
>>84374062
It was weird how right he was, but there's a deeper point to be made: Being right doesn't mean being in the right.
>>84369356
So Miller is a conservative right? Cause "liberals are stupid" felt like a big theme in this story.
>>84377597
Who are they? Who out there thinks that psychopaths are a new invention created by the media?
>>84374062
>the consequences of hoodlums turning into wannabe batman copycats
As Lana Lang said
>If they kill criminals it's a-ok
>>84377382
Batman is acting as an authority that supercedes the state and acts unilaterally.
>>84377718
Both sides got ribbing. Miller agrees with conservatives on some issues, but not most.
>>84377727
The dindu meme didn't come out of nowhere.
>>84377718
Yeah pretty much. It makes for a good story and it's an interesting take on the Batman story in the mind of someone who saw a doomed liberal future. Like how Batman made his fight with Superman personal in the end. What he said made it less about doing what's right and more about conquest.
>>84377718
Considering what he does with Reagan it's more like everyone's stupid
>>84377718
well he also made fun of ronald reagan and crazy conservatives, portraying them as a bunch of rich, corrupt, pieces of racist shit.
he is conservative but a weird batman conservative where he still stands for rebellion/art/progress... which is weird
>>84377762
Criminals are people, too, who have reasons for their actions. They're not some subhuman race born with the urge to commit crime.
>>84377800
Dindu is too vague and didn't come from the mouth of a celebrity psychologist.
>>84377800
>libertarian
Ah ok
>>84377893
There's Fredric Wertham, the guy who infamously blamed juvenile delinquency on comic books because he interviewed juvenile delinquents, found out they all read comic books, and assumed that correlation equaled causation.
>>84377879
I was actually complaining about the way he "resolved" the problem
Sorry if it came out the wrong way
>>84371754
Ironically, the only time Luthor actually improved the world when Superman was gone was only because he became the world leader.
>>84377962
Yea honestly I think liberals complain about media content way more than conservatives.
Although religious conservatives do complain about things that offend their religious values I still see "triggered" liberals wanting censorship way more often.
>>84378058
Those religious conservatives had far more noise and influence in the 80s and 90s, but they all got old and died.
>>84377962
I haven't read about him, but did he say that these problems didn't exist before comics? The problem with Dr. Jewfrohitler is that he implies that Batman makes his villains commit revenge crimes because he oppressed them when they commit crimes.
>>84378058
In the same way that conservatives throw a bitch fit over a strong female lead in Mad Max or a gay character in How to Train your Dragon 2.
We know it's not all conservatives just like we know it's not all liberals. Social media not only gives people a new way to voice shitty opinions, but also a new way to draw attention to their shitty opinions or for people to write articles about how shitty their opinion is, and framing it in such a way that in our heads "something that one asshole believes" becomes "something those assholes believe."
>>84375891
You need to shut up. There are a multitude of factors, indeed among them Ethnicity, that play a part in the causal relationship with crime. Ethnicity however only has a small influence. Every criminologist can tell you that. Also, what crime? Street crimes? White collar crimes? Cybercrime?
>>84371006
A black committing violence likely has only himself to blame but the fact that there is lots of violence from blacks as whole in america is societal thing.
Not to say the black community isn't responsible for it's actions however there are other factors as well. The media is pretty bad when it comes to enabling the bad habits of black culture.
>>84378278
>conservatives throw a bitch fit over a strong female lead in Mad Max
No they didn't
it was just some mgtow ledditors
Politics as a single axis was a mistake
>>84374449
God DAMN Kelsey Grammer is an amazing actor. Bonus points for him saying those lines whilst being a card-carrying Republican himself; we all need to learn to poke fun at our own beliefs every now and then.
>>84378278
>female lead
>Mad Max
That's the problem, you fucking dipshit. He wasn't the lead in his own movie.
>>84379235
Whenever on /tg/ someone made a thread about doing a campaign in the Mad Max world it would always develop in a fight between people complaining about "the shitty SJW movie" and the one defending it
>>84379638
You're acting like he was the lead in the others
>>84379665
>has only watched a few clips of the Road Warrior on youtube
The post.
>>84378760
I think people are too afraid to put dividing lines of behavior within races. You see the same phenomenon with trumps supposed racism towards Mexicans and the term "radical islam".
>>84379645
But /tg/ is a good board. They don't tend to stupid discussions in their threads.
>>84379235
It was a big to do among the MMR crowd. The point that I was making was roping a select group with the larger, sweeping group by using broad terms is dumb.
I mean really, a gay Breitbart journalist writes an angry anti-trans article and a conservative radio guy goes on a tirade about how vicious the gay community is.
>>84379919
As somebody who lurks a fair amount on /tg/... yeah, they can. Hell,I had to be warned for arguing politics in a recent board games thread.
>>84369356
>Every anti-social act can be traced to irreponsible media input
It's amazing how this line of thinking has resurfaced in the past few years. Of all the things from the late 80s/early 90s that made a return, it had to be that.
>>84380838
It never left, but at the same time that's really a gross stereotype and exagguration of what they're really saying.
>>84379733
He wasn't.
>>84375735
he was absolutely correct. they really wanted to fuck each other the whole time.
>>84369356
why does this guy remind me of Mr. Satan from Dragonball Z screaming that its all special effects and tricks.
>>84376826
Because subtly is for liberal faggots.
>>84379740
>supposed racism
>supposed
>>84381741
so that's what he meant
then why were people disagreeing with him?
