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Good job Delta's - Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
Han Solo #2
Poe Dameron #4

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Sound advice
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>it's a "clones heroically fight to the end despite being born to suffer" episode
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>>84328457
>Boba Fett escapes the Sarlaac
>has no idea empire is wrekt

>Act I
>ship is stolen and needs to get it back
>taken while in Sarlaac
>fights space niggers and gets ship back
>hearing rumours empire is in disarray
>meets mysterious dude who tells him where luke is so he can get revenge

>Act II
>Fett goes to planet with this dude, says he is not fond of jedi either and they can help each other
>Boba's help in exchange for info on Luke
>Planet is sprawling imperial base
>Boba's armor is taken for "repairs"
>approached by high ranking officials in his room
>they want him to make a clone army; because he is an unaltered clone of his father they can do so
>want to restore Empire to greatness with Grand Army of Republic
>Boba hates he is a clone and refuses; they then trap him
>Proceeds to escape the planet and get armor back via espioage/stealth
>Knows Slave I has been moved to an SD in orbit
>steals shuttle to get ship back

>Act 3
>fights stormies aboard SD to get to Slave I
>ends up captured and brought to leader of base
>Carnor Jax, former imperial guard, proclaimed himself emperor
>says manu warlords fighting it out in Empire, wants to restore it to glory and genuinely wants peace
>Boba can help make amends for the sins of his father and himself
>together they can find Luke and end the Jedi
>pottery
>Boba says fuck that and blows up controls
>SD going down and Carnor chases Boba through it as he tries to get to hangar
>gets to ship and Carnor confronts him
>some force abilities and has a force pike; Boba says he has killed Jedi and this will be easy
>Jax lying on floor rekt, says there is something far worse than him in the shattered ranks of the empire; something far more sinister than Palpatine that will rise to power unless stopped
>Boba keks, kills him and flies off

END
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>>84341949
Rip Commander Thorn, we hardly knew thee
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>>84342127
I'd imagine Boba getting out of the Sarlaac all dazed and confused and then it turns into The Hangover with bounty hunters and pirates and stuff.
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>>84342127

Nah. Boba stays in the Sarlacc. Leave him to rot there so he can stop shitting on his dad's legacy.

Also;

>they want him to make a clone army; because he is an unaltered clone of his father they can do so

Can't be done. Unaltered or not, he's still a clone. You can't clone a clone and not have/expect defects. It's like xeroxing something that was xeroxed. Keep doing it and it's going to be more fucked up. Best clones/copies are always of the original source. Clones from Boba are more or less going to turn out in varying degrees of 99.

>Jax lying on floor rekt, says there is something far worse than him in the shattered ranks of the empire; something far more sinister than Palpatine that will rise to power unless stopped

> something far more sinister than Palpatine

I know you're trying to refer to Snoke. But that's just bullshit. Nothing's worse than the Dark Lord of the Sith.
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>>84342266
>Can't be done
This is not xeroxing. This is Kamino cloning. Star Wars has some advanced technology to the point I'm sure the Kaminoians would iron out every kink. Matter of fact, why wouldn't they create a genetic super soldier perfect in everyday? Maybe too expensive. Even for them.
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>>84342127
I like how there's no actual story and it's just a bunch of shit happening
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Rey a best
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Clone Wars guide is done.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12p8_m1o7U5k7jnHdtoLNPFglcJ59-jNeV0NyJT-PxL0/edit?usp=sharing
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>>84342701
Why are there multiple episodes duplicated in column D?
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>>84342701
>Clone cadets episodes listed as random
wtf
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>>84342127
>>84342514
I actually kind of like that idea. A movie where Boba Fett is just this dumb asshole that's like "Aww fuck I want me fuckin ship."

>>84342501
That seems like it would require a more elaborate and slower process than the mass production the Kaminoans used.
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>>84342701
>Slaves of the Republic only 2 stars
>Clone episodes not their own category
Other than solid, but both of those are necessary changes.
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>>84342880
Whoops. I'll fix it tomorrow when I'm more awake.
>>84342957
Idk how to really categorize that episode.
>>84342984
And now I do. I'll make those changes tomorrow morning.
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>>84342701
No guides, watch everything.
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>>84342701
Wait, some of the Kanan comic was originally part of Clone Wars?
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>>84343137
Most of the Kanan comic takes place DURING The Clone Wars.
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>>84343185
I mean the actual TV show, did they intend to introduce him as a padawan?
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>>84343209
No, Kanan was created purely for Rebels, nothing in his story was something intended for TCW.

The closest thing there is that Depa Billaba was set to appear in the background of an episode, but that's it.
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>>84342261
I'd like to see something similar to the Jodo Kast story, where Boba crawls out but finds that in his absence some asshole has started pretending to be him. He sets out to find this guy, but he also has to come to terms with the fact that his time in the Sarlacc has left him with considerable muscle and even nerve damage from which he'll never fully recover, but he's set on making sure that his (and by extension his father's) legacy remains in his hands. He sets out for what may be his last hunt, to find this imposter and settle the score.

He and the imposter have a Sergio Leone-style duel at the end- the imposter is killed, though he also fatally wounds Boba. He dies with the satisfaction that he did so under his own terms, having protected the Fett legacy, and with the satisfaction of knowing that whoever becomes the new "best bounty hunter" will live without knowing whether he would've stacked up against Boba, never having the opportunity to directly challenge him (sort of like how Cad Bane never had the satisfaction of seeing whether he could beat Jango in a straight fight).

Also featuring Dengar and Bossk as supporting characters.
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>>84343655
I don't hate this
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>>84343655
I think something like this with a western vibe would work for Boba. I doubt it would go over well if Boba dies at the end, but a story like that really only works if he dies.
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>>84343655
That has potential.
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>>84343655
Something like this would be great. But we're not going to get that, we're going to get a generic action movie.
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>>84343655
>Sarlacc has left him with considerable muscle and even nerve damage from which he'll never fully recover
I like this idea because one of the things that bothered me about Boba returning from the Sarlacc in the EU was that it never really made an impact on him. There's stories about him in the Sarlacc, stories about him getting out and having to recover... but after that, he just goes back to normal and the ordeal had barely any physical or psychological effect on him despite having been there for weeks or months. He may as well have just been locked in a closet for a few days for all the impact it had on him. He comes back and he's right back to being the same old Boba Fett.
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>>84342127
I just want an Edge of Tomorrow/Groundhog day plot device. No matter what he does he can't escape the Sarlaac
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>>84345754
That's what made Maul's return work. At the beginning it was dumb, he just comes back and goes "yes, REVEENENNNNGGNENNGNEGNE on KENOHHHHBEEEE" and that's boring.

Then season five hits and his arc is less about revenge on Obi-Wan and more about trying to carve out a place for himself after having his life goal and promised position taken from him. At this point, his being defeated by Obi-Wan has a greater impact beyond just "you beat me and cut me in half, I have robot legs now and want revenge", it completely derailed his life and he can't just pick up where he left off because his master moved on and replaced him and now sees him as a threat.

This is also why Maul returning in Rebels doesn't work- he didn't "die" again so this isn't a resurrection cheat, but at the same time it's now been 15 years since the Clone Wars and Maul still has the same story, the same goals, and the same methods. Nothing changed. It's just "welp, here's Maul again!" just like what happened with Boba in legends and it's boring.
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ded thred
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>>84346429
The other day I tried doing an in thread /qst/ to keep threads going during down time.

No one participated. I lost a lot of confidence in that attempt at revival.
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>>84346429
It's Friday.
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>>84346496
I'm still astounded that little Google front page animation apparently triggered a shitload of people
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>>84341700
How long could Kirito last in the Star Wars universe? Could he get through Order 66?
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>>84346560
He's Kirito, he'd kill Palpatine himself and literally every female character in the galaxy would be hungry for his cock.

Yes, even the one you're thinking about.
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>>84346560
>How long could Kirito last in the Star Wars universe? Could he get through Order 66?
If we're being realistic he wouldn't last long.

But Kirito is fueled by bad writing, so he'd be completely unstoppable.
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>>84346572
>No, Ahsoka! Nooo!
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>>84346590
>The Ahsoka Novel is now 400 pages of Ahsoka crying about how Kirito won't ever notice her
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>>84346556
It doesn't take much to trigger the alt-right. They're as bad as SJWs.
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>>84346556
Why wouldn't it?
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>>84346659
Back to /pol/ with you
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>>84346673
Don't have a response? Use memes
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>>84346659
I'm not really seeing the problem. It's a bunch of little doodles that don't represent specific people. The only people who would care are the "b-but white genocide!" morons.
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>>84346496
>>84346556
>>84346655
>>84346659
>>84346673
>>84346700
>>84346722
All of you take this shit elsewhere.
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>>84346749
You're not even trying
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Holy shit
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>>84346496
>>84346556
>>84346655
>>84346659
>>84346673
>>84346700
>>84346722
>>84346733
It's offensive and doesn't represent reality, it undermines people's hard work. It's like how Dr. Matt Taylor's shirt offended people so instead of talking about the Rosetta mission people were talking about some dude's shirt.
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>>84347733
Fuck off already, no one cares faggot.
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Would it be wrong to say this is all that happens in Aftermath?
>Captain Wedge Antillies is captured outside of Akiva by Imperial officer Rae Salone and is rescued by Rebel forces. On the surface of the planet, the Rebels fight against the Empire. After resolving the revolt Rae is promoted. Meanwhile, the Kashyyyk, the beginning of a revolution led by Han Solo and Chewbacca begins.
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What do you guys think of Star Wars?
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>>84348680
It's ok.
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>>84348680
Shit
Don't mention it here again
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>>84348680
>Star Wars
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>>84348680
>Star Wars
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>>84348680
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I had a dream that Rogue One came out and sucked.

Please tell me my dream won't be a reality.
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>>84349540
I'm posting from the future.

I never saw the movie because I'm not that much into Star Wars but I can tell you that my girlfriend is a lying, cheating whore.

Hope that clears things up for you.
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>>84349540
You're dream could become reality.
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>>84349540
Your dream won't be a reality.
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>>84348680
It was better when they weren't ashamed of the shit they did in the past. The EU, the prequels, Boba Fett.

You can't expect something to stay consistently gold all the time without finding some degree of rot.
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>>84349540
That depends. Did you like TFA? If so, you'll probably like rouge one.
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>>84343655
>Also featuring Dengar and Bossk as supporting characters.

>and Bossk as supporting characters.

>Bossk

You realize Bossk died in RoTJ, right?
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>>84350026
What does /swco/ think of Fanboys anyway?
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>>84347914
Throw in a mysterious dark side cult that may or may not be the Knights of Ren, but they do nothing other than obtain Vader's Lightsaber.

And Rae is with an unnamed Admiral on the last SSD.

And Boba's armor was found by Jawa's and sold to someone unknown, and yeah, that's it.
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>>84349540
I had a dream of having sex with an asian milf and then I cummed irl for the first time no lie
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>>84342501
>This is not xeroxing.

It's highly comparable. For every clone cloned from a clone, the genetic sequence breaks down or deforms. So yeah, It kinda is.

> Star Wars has some advanced technology to the point I'm sure the Kaminoians would iron out every kink

Tell that to 99. You try to clone Boba, THIS is what you'll get. Only potentially worse as mental retardation would most certainly be an expected side effect. Boba is an unaltered clone, but is still a clone. And by that alone he can never be a host source.
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>>84350345
Pretty good movie
>ywn wreck Kristen Bell
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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/sci-fi-fantasy/chuck-wendigs-star-wars-aftermath-life-debt-reflects-a-diverse-galaxy/

Life Debt spoilers:
>Han's absence looms over the book like Luke's in TFA
>Vader fanboys/girls start getting violent and the NR has to deal with it
>More Sloane as she gains more Imperial power

Overall this review isn't bad since it doesn't paint Aftermath in a pure positive light, and it even brings up some of the comics and books that already came out to help some points along.
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>>84350339
Shut your stinkin' mouth!
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>On Shaak Ti:

I made it boys, I'm famous now
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>>84351120
Now that you have his attention, ask about the fate of the Wookiee Jam Crew
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>>84351116

I don't like it either, anon. But Bossk is nothing but a burned crispy lizard corpse in the middle of the desert next to a giant toothed sphincter.
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>>84351120
>tfw she must have made the Holocron and then just waited like a bitch for her death while Jedi and children around her fought to the death
>didn't even become a Force Ghost or anything, she just gave up and meditated knowing the Order was about to become extinct.
>She was one of few people who may have stood a chance, may have helped save lives.
>She could have at least tried to get the children out of the Temple.
>Maybe even could have taken Anakin with Cin Drallig and Inky
Fuck this. Waifu officially D R O P P E D.

First time ever that I actually think the EU version of a character was better.

And we're never getting Rambo Ti, half-naked on a Rancor, ever again.
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>>84351320
She had the added problem of the clones turning against her people, though. She was the Jedi in charge of training the clones and seeing them go off to battle and what not. That probably had a big psychological effect on her to the point where she might not have wanted to try and fight off the clones just to get to Anakin.
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>>84351305
His bio on Starwars.com says nothin' about it, unlike Boba, so I'm gonna say he's still alive. And he deserves to live, after all!
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What do the prequel fanboys here think about Jar Jar Binks?
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>>84351403
>His bio on Starwars.com says nothin' about it

It use to. It's how I found out he died when Jabba's sail barge blew. It's where my image in >>84350339 came from.
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>>84351459
Could have been executed better. WAS executed better in TCW. Toning down the accent and pratfalls for the sake of pratfalls would have made him far more bearable in TPM. I actually quite like the scene of him fucking around during the droid battle for some reason.
That said I don't particularly ride the hate wagon, he's eyerolling at worst and we wouldn't have the greatest star wars comic of all time without him.
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>>84351459
Messa thinkin yousa're goin to has a bombad timen if yousa can't come to yousa ownen conclusions.

He was fine in TCW, and his episodes were fun and as the series go on they even get better.
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>>84351459
He's a good loyal Imperial citizen that deserves all his praise for getting Palpatine into power while no other Senator dared to do so.
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>>84351540
http://www.starwars.com/databank/bossk

I've been looking all over the web archive of that page, but couldn't find any reference to him dying. If it was actually there, that line must have only been there for a short time before it was removed, either due to it being an error or otherwise.
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>>84351459
He's pretty good in Clone Wars.
Not annoying and actually funny.
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>>84351545
>and we wouldn't have the greatest star wars comic of all time without him.
George R. Binks?
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>>84351849
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>>84351816
>No aliens
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>>84351834
>Scarif

Well I know where I'm from in the Star Wars universe now.
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>>84351873
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>>84351876
LSG DUN GOOFED BIG TIME NAMING THE PLANET SCARIF
DONT GOOGLE IT I REPEAT DONT GOOGLE IT
HOLY SHIT

Or do google it if you really want to know, I need someone to be traumatized with
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>>84351932
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>>84351922
What, scarification? That bothers you so much?
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>>84351922
Seems apt
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>>84351941
Last image

And again, Scarif gives me some messed up shit on google images...
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>>84351947
Wounds in general are eww to me
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What are those Rogue One pics? A leak or something?
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>>84351922
>>84351949
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Was Ren vs. Rey a good lightsaber fight? How does it rank up against the other ones?
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>>84351971
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/07/preview-images-from-upcoming-rogue-one-book-reveal-new-planet-and-ship-details.html
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>>84351684

Didn't think of it earlier, but USW alludes to him being dead. Though granted, it doesn't say specifically that he's dead. and Pablo himself has said that USW has a number of errors. But even then, if you watch RoTJ you can see Bossk on board the sail barge.

Literally the last of Bossk's entry in USW

>Bossk meets up with Fett at Jabba's palace, where the Falcon's captain, Han Solo, is hanging on the wall, imprisoned in carbonite. Both Bounty Hunters accompany Jabba's retinue aboard a sail barge to witness the execution of Han and the team of rebels who had tried to rescue him. The barge is destroyed when Han and his friends fight back.

Twi-leks for no reason.
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>>84352019
Bossk's a clever asshole, I'm sure he escaped before it blew up.
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>>84351987
Thanks.
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>>84351975
I loved the lightsaber fight. Like, you can see that Kylo is more experienced than Finn and Rey, but he's also handicapped due to his injury. You can see how Rey uses her lightsaber like a staff and you can see Finn swinging it around like a baseball bat. I liked how realistic the choreography was.

I just wish that Kylo had won because it would have given Rey a motivation to improve her skills in the next movie.
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>>84350407
Cool, thanks. I was trying to add a summary for Aftermath for my cousin and I to go over, but there's so much pointless shit to sift through. Thanks again, you're the man cAnon
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>>84352073

I want to believe that. Really, I do. But as far as I see it there's more evidence to suggest he's dead than alive.
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>>84351975
I liked the TFA fight because of how brutal it was.
My top 5 right now (not including TCW and Rebels) would be:

1.) Luke vs Vader in TESB
2.) Rey and Finn vs Kylo in TFA
3.) Luke vs Vader in ROTJ
4.) Anakin vs Obi Wan in ROTS
5.) Anakin vs Dooku in ROTS
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>>84351804
Bingo.
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>>84351975
It was boring. Literally didn't care about edgelord or mary sue. Even if I forget that it just felt silly. The fight gets broken up by an earthquake of all things.
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>>84352347
Trust in the sexy lizard!
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>>84352408
>It's an anon still hasn't figured out to take a proper screenshot with the correct aspect ration episode.

I took this right now with MPC. Come on now.
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>>84352526

I'd like to, anon. But I'm a man of facts. Not faith.
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>>84352408
>calls Rey a Mary Sue
>while posting Ahsoka picture

wew lad
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>>84352640
I know how to do it. I just don't care.>>84352701
Leave my waifu alone. I also wanted to see them murder the Jedi. That's just bullshit.
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>>84352701
This. Either both of them are Sue's or none of them are.
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>>84352408
>Literally didn't care about edgelord or mary sue.

Don't cut yourself on that edge.
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>>84352844
You can do whatever you like, but that's some omega laziness you have. You set the settings up literally once, then you just click a button. I'd hate to see your playback settings.
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>>84351975
Possibly the worst fight for me (don't kill me). It's not because of how Rey beat Ren. Believe me, how they managed to make Ren injured so he wouldn't overpower Rey was a good idea.

For one they looked like they were struggling to hold the lightsaber as if they were heavy as fuck. They were just swinging them about like kids who haven't held a stick before. The fight was just extremely slow for some reason. It also showed how flawed how Ren's saber was because he couldn't really swing it about and had to be extra careful when handling it. The choreography wasn't that great either. I would expected Rey to show off her skills or something and not just running backwards.

The setting was also shit. I don't know why but you can't easily tell it was filmed in a small warehouse and turns out they did just that. It just felt cramped or something. If you have watched any fight/action scene set in a forest from other films you would understand where I'm coming from. The way the camera was following Ren when he was following Rey felt like I was watching a tv budget fight scene. The concept art looked better.

I don't expect the fight to be as anywhere as near epic as this scene but they could've done a better job with it. The earthquake splitting them apart was a nice touch though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ToztqqDcaY
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>>84349540
What if it's just a movie
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>>84352929
I change the settings depending if it's a small video or if it's full hd, so technically you have to change it regularly.
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>>84351975
In retrospect, it was okay. My only issues were with the characters, not the fight itself. Then again, I'm a little biased towards the lightsaber duels from the OT. (I was never really big on the flashy acrobatics from the prequel fights.)
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>>84353040
Or you can just keep the video's aspect ration and let MPC handle the rest.
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>>84352701
I don't exactly follow. What point are you trying to make?
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>>84352864
>Ahsoka was a Jedi. She had Jedi training. She can do mind-tricks and super cool "force stuff".
>Rey is a scavenger with no Jedi training. She can do mind-tricks and super cool "force stuff".

Who is the mary sue here?
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>>84353127
Okay, I think I got it now.
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>>84353211
So you don't even know what a Mary Sue is. That explains a lot.
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>>84353323
Explain to me why both (rey and ahsoka) are mary sues.
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>>84352984
>For one they looked like they were struggling to hold the lightsaber as if they were heavy as fuck.
>The fight was just extremely slow for some reason.
This.
Their duel was so clunky. I don't think JJ understood/understands how lightsabers work.
It looked like they were swinging some really heavy hammers.

>It also showed how flawed how Ren's saber was because he couldn't really swing it about and had to be extra careful when handling it
Agreed. In practice the crossguard blades are the stupidest things. Had they been metal, fine, but now they're out of plasma so one touch and you've burnt yourself.
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>>84353323
>Google search mary sue
>first character to show up is Rey
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>>84353482
The times, they are a changing...
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>>84352701
I'm hoping that Rey becomes like Ahsoka, hated at her introduction for their Mary Sue traits, but grow flaws and develop their characters into something much more likeable.
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>>84352984
>>84353388
Uh, have you ever seen the OT? Lightsabers are supposed to be heavy.
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>>84353137
Ahsoka was very widely hated and considered a Mary Sue when she was first introduced. It took years for her to become the beloved character she is now.
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>>84353601
I hated Ahsoka because she was kinda annoying and cheesy, not because she was "too perfect" or whatever.
She became a lot better when the show improved. People still tend to forget how bad the first TCW season was.
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>>84353482
It's pretty accurate desu. hp just solves all his problems with magic, hermione is an idealized version of the author, Bella is the author and rey is... rey.
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>>84353629

Circumstances were different in the OT though. Most of Kenobi and Vader's fight was offscreen. And both times Luke fought Vader was because he was novice as hell. And Vader was toying with Luke on Bespin and on the second Death Star he was holding back 'cause he was conflicted and wasn't thinking straight. PT or OT, lightsabers work the exact same and are light as fuck.
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>>84353684
That's the same reason why I hope Episode VIII and IX fixes the problem Rey has. She is at her best with her friendship with Finn and is prone to screwing up, she didn't go full Mary Sue until she got kidnapped by Kylo Ren.

If you were the writer or director of the next two Star Wars episodes, what would you do with Rey?
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>>84353712
Isn't the prime indicator of a Mary Sue being an author self-insert?

Who is Rey an insert of?
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>>84353763
Not sure, but Luke was the self insert for Lucas, so that counts towards him.
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>>84353756
>If you were the writer or director of the next two Star Wars episodes, what would you do with Rey?

I've thought about this a lot and I think the best thing to do is to have Rey murder Kylo Ren in cold blood in Episode VIII. What seems like a Kylo Ren redemption arc is actually a Rey redemption arc.
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>>84353763
J.J?
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>>84353763
Katie McGrath, JJ's wife, I mean she does look kind of like Rey?
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>>84353763
Kathleen Kennedy? She's the one that always goes on about muh stronk female characters, after all.
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>>84353763
Nah, it's a big warning sign but that's not the only thing.
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>>84353763
The audience. The people who demand that a project is crap if it doesn't feature an MC who is either female, a POC, or some other form of culturally different thing.
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>>84353801
That would be actually a good twist, Rey could turn to the dark side after finding out the dark truth behind her past and killing Kylo Ren in cold blood, taking his place as Snoke's apprentice and leader of the Knights of Ren, taking the name Kira Ren.
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>>84353629
Yes, I've noticed that they looked a bit heavy but that's probably because of what they used back then. But even so Luke handled his lightsaber easily like it was nothing, even got a hit on Vader a bunch of times. I'm pretty convinced they only used those heavy lightsabers in the TFA just for this set photo because you know how everyone went crazy over "practical effects" were going to be used in the film. Even though they were going to CGI them anyway.

>>84353683
But how? I remember people hating Ahsoka but she's hardly a Mary Sue.
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>>84353629
Do these sabers look heavy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ_j3s5xj8I
The first 15 seconds are them just swinging them like crazy at each other.
The only weight in a saber is the hilt.

And this>>84353737
>Circumstances were different in the OT though

First duel in ANH doesn't count, it's two old men pointing sticks at each other.
As Anon stated, in ESB Vader don't even want to kill Luke and Luke is shit.
And as my video shows, in ROTJ their duel is fluent and snappy. Not slow and clunky like in TFA.
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>>84353763
All "little girls who are such big Star Wars fans".
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>>84353381
>>84353763
They are Mary Sues because they are author/audience wish fulfillments. Then again, so were Luke and Anakin.
Ahsoka is Filoni's mouthpiece. I mean she's literally the only Jedi who seems to understand what's wrongs with the Jedi Order when even Obi Wan doesn't question them really.
Then she becomes a badass "grey Jedi" who technically isn't a "real" Jedi. If you'd ask any Star Wars fan what kind of Jedi they would like to be, they would most likely answer with "a grey Jedi who isn't part of the Order".

Rey was created as a female power fantasy for young women.
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>>84353629
Relatively. Padme even comments on how Anakin's was heavier than she thought it'd be. But that only really applies to the hilt. the blade has no weight which is why it's so difficult and suicidal for those untrained to wield. If you can't track where the blade is going, chances are you're going to cut yourself up.
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>>84353850
I think that was more "We want the Hunger Games audience money" thinking than "stronk female character" speaking
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>>84353987
What the fuck? The TFA duel was much faster than the ROTJ duel. Just watch Kylo twirling his lightsaber like in the prequels to show off.
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>>84354041
So for first time users, I can definitely understand why they'd swing it around like a club or battle hammer.

I have to say though, for a novice to the weapon, Finn put on a much better performance with it than Rey
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>>84354139
Finn was most likely used to those kind of melee weapons since he probably had to train how to beat up some rebels.

Rey just used it like she would use her staff.
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>>84354007
>>84354026
>Rey was created as a female power fantasy for young women.

Is that really a bad thing though? Before, all female fans had were Leia and Padme, neither of whom were Jedi. A few months ago, I was in a restaurant and saw a little girl, no older than 7, wearing a Rey t-shirt. It kinda warmed my heart a little bit even if I don't think Rey is the best character.
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>>84353737
>And both times Luke fought Vader was because he was novice as hell. And Vader was toying with Luke on Bespin and on the second Death Star he was holding back 'cause he was conflicted and wasn't thinking straight.

Sound a lot like the Finn/Kylo duel.
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>>84354221
Ye.
>The Mary Sue is an absolutely perfect OC. They usually have bad pasts, never get angry, be skilled in every skill, have magical powers, be over powered, and never loses. They usually have the rarest abilities and are soooo unique. (Not at all).
There are plenty great role models in fiction, a mary sue ain't one of them.
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>>84353756
>If you were the writer or director of the next two Star Wars episodes, what would you do with Rey?

No dark side shenanigans. That really wouldn't fit Rey's optimistic personality.
Rey should just face some hard obstacles and fail. It would also be great for her to get a real goal apart from finding her family because no matter if Luke is her or father or not, she has already found a new family that cares about her in Luke, Leia, Finn and Poe.
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>>84354221
You can create a "power fantasy" and not have them be a fucking terrible character.
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>>84354221
It's absolutely not a bad thing if you aren't a /pol/tard. However, it doesn't make her character more interesting.
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>>84353756
Rey, riding on a wave of huge confidence, should charge into a fiasco she can't win and Finn should die to save her after her failure.

I feel that way Rey is humbled and flaws are showed.
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>>84354410
>Finn should die to develop Rey's character
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>>84354221
Yes.
If it cheapens the character.
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Enough about Rey. How should Luke die in episode VIII?
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>>84354326
>she has already found a new family that cares about her in Luke, Leia, Finn and Poe.
Implying Luke isn't going to murder her and eat her because he has fuckall to eat on that island
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>>84354563
>Snoke brutally kills the Knights of Ren while Kylo isn't around
>Kylo finds their bodies and assumes that Luke is the one who killed his brothers
>Goes on a rampage and murders Luke before he finds out that Snoke betrayed and manipulated him
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>>84354563
He pulls the same shit Yoda does
>welp, I'm tired, better get to bed
>oh hey, Rey came back, sup Rey
>your Jedi training came very far, I'm very proud
>you have a question for me? about your parents?
>uhhh
>uuuhhhhhhh
>YEAH YOU KNOW WHAT I FORGOT TO TELL YOU I'M ACTUALLY DYING
>oh boy look how old and weak I am
>"There... is... another... Rey..."
>croak

>joins the other ghosts
>Obi-Wan asks what the fuck he was talking about with the other Rey crap
>"I dunno felt like the right thing to say"
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>>84354563
I don't exactly want the trilogy to be about mad kids chasing each other to get revenge. It would get to repetitive if Ren ends up stabbing Luke to death. I want him to die peacefully just like Yoda after teaching Rey at least.
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>people think Luke will die
He's going to steamroll Snoke and bitchboi. Fuck Rey in the ass and call it a day.
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>>84354563
He destroys the entire First Order fleet using THE FORCEâ„¢ and dies from force exhaustion or something.
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>>84354563
I'd rather he not die, because then we're left with Rey being the one to start the new Jedi
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>>84354566
Chewie is on board and has all the Wookie-Cookies Luke want.
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>>84354563
He won't
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So I have a question for hardcore Star Wars nerds: Is Kylo Ren the new legitimate "owner" of Chewie now that Han is dead? I mean life debts are still inherited in the new canon, right?
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>>84354874
The new movies are literally just repeating the original trilogy with new characters.

Han was the new Obi-wan. Luke is the new Yoda.
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>>84355065
Nice meme, but Maz is already the new Yoda + Lando.
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>>84355094
Honestly I think they're going to struggle with finding things for Maz to do. As it was she was barely useful in TFA and even got left behind because they realized there was nothing for her to do on D'Qar. Now that we have Luke, her whole "wise older figure with Force knowledge" thing becomes redundant.
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>>84355326
Not if she sticks around with Finn and the new female character. They could have some wacky adventures together while Poe leads the Resistance and Rey learns about Kylo's tragic past or something.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2016/07/08/maz-kanata-star-wars-aftermath-life-debt-exclusive-excerpt/86839668/

Fan favorite orange Yoda is going to be in Life Debt.
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>>84355487
>Kylo's tragic past or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fF1ZSNTtBQ
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>>84354041
>Padme even comments on how Anakin's was heavier than she thought it'd be
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>>84355516
Well we still don't know why exactly Kylo turned to the dark side and what his actual goal is. I'm sure Luke will tell Rey about it, so we might get another flashback.
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>>84354974
That just means Mark Hamill isn't going to die on set, which really, he doesn't have the authority to say with 100% confidence.
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>>84355504
Maz a cute
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>>84341700
How is the Han Solo comic?
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>>84355504
Maz looks more like ET than Yoda.
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>>84355594
I don't know. In my opinion it doesn't work at all. There's a reason why they say storytelling is all about conflict. Having a weak villain that's not even a threat isn't exactly great storytelling.
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>>84355594
>Well we still don't know why exactly Kylo turned to the dark side and what his actual goal is
He turned to be like grandpa! And to finish what grandpa started! And he did this because... uh.

Because grandpa! That's a reason, right?
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>>84355702
How would giving Kylo a past and a reason to be evil make him a weaker villain? They really have to explain or show his fall in the next movie or else he can't be a tragic villain which he clearly is supposed to be.
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>>84355803
Did the prequels flesh out this guy?
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>>84355504
yay...
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>>84355837
Yes
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>>84355504
Eh, I wasn't going to read it anyway. I was just going to wait for someone to summarize the important parts.
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>>84355837
Yes.
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>>84355837
Not enough, I kinda think that was the biggest flaw of the prequels.
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>>84355837
I'm going to go out on a tangent here; The Force Awakens cheats with Kylo Ren.

Because it assumes we saw the prequels, so we know the whole arc for a Jedi falling to the Dark Side. Without
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>>84355837
>>84355914
-being informed of Anakin's arc, Kylo is a rather empty villain.
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>>84355837
>Likes
Podracing

>Dislikes
Sand

I understand Vaber now.
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>>84350630
You're wrong.
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>>84356053
kek
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>>84355914
>>84355934
Not really, because there wouldn't be enough time to show Kylo's fall AND Rey's story in the same trilogy. So they will instead show us how he turned by giving Rey another vision or soemthing like that. Then Kylo and Rey will meet and he will tell her what happened to him in order to sway her to the dark side. I think you can do that without wasting time by just having Rey represent the audience.
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>>84351849
>dropship and troop transport
Sounds cool. I wonder if Star wars commander will add it
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>>84355914
I think you're giving them too much credit. I doubt they put that much thought into it and expected that because you knew Vader fell to the dark side, even if you didn't watch how he did it, that you'd accept that Kylo did too. It doesn't provide any particular reason for it, beyond "I want to be like my grandfather/Snoke told me to be evil" which is kind of flimsy, but it's basically just what we learned about Vader in the OT: Vader was seduced by the power of the dark side and by the Emperor. The prequels give us more nuance and clarify that it wasn't as clear-cut as "I want power" but going by the lens of the OT, that's all we learn. Similarly, TFA just presents Kylo as someone who wants to be powerful like his grandfather and we learn no other reason. It doesn't expect us to even really question why he went from a good Jedi student to a dark side powermonger, it just wants us to accept it. If Kylo were a basic villain this would be fine, but there's elements of tragedy there that aren't really touched on. He's presented as tragic and struggles with his decision but we never know why he made these decisions to begin with. The movie wants to have a tragic character but not actually flesh him out, and thinks by treating him like the new Vader that's good enough.

It's sort of like what they did with Hosnian Prime, where the destruction is treated with great tragic dressing than Alderaan (shots of the victims watching it about to happen, sad music, etc) but we're never given any reason to care about them. They're random nobodies on a planet that won't even be named until later in the movie, but the movie wants it to be tragic. They want the audience to feel sympathy without having earned it.
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>>84356068


You sure showed him, soldier.
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>>84350630
Not the same guy, but

Cloning makes an exact copy I think, with all the same genes and DNA 100% intact, so you should be able to make a clone from another clone.

Then again, it's Star Wars, so almost anything goes.
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>>84355504
I guess this will be where Han meets her for the first time?
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>>84355837
I think he lost alot more flesh than he gained in the prequels, anon-kun
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Did somebody say "Flesh"?
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>>84356362
THE SINGULARITY ENGINE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9JPF3pn5O4
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>>84350345
I liked it.
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>>84356221
>with all the same genes and DNA 100% intact

It isn't. The gene sequence breaks down. It's fine though if you're cloning from an original host source because the genetic degeneration isn't very drastic. But if you clone from a clone who will, no matter what, always be 99%, at best, you're gonna constantly be getting less of a perfect result. Making a copy from a copy will always be more distorted than the last. That's just how genetics work.

>Cloning makes an exact copy I think

It doesn't. But it's closer than say what you would get through regular procreation and having some really dominant genes. Though with procreation, you get to have the other side/parent's genetics, no matter how dominant or recessive they'd be, to fill in the gaps/errors of the other parent.

So yeah. Any clone made from Boba will always be more flawed on the genetic level than any clone of Jango.

Now if say; Boba had a natural born kid, or a kid with a genetic doner from some woman. And then had that kid cloned a million times, that'd be fine because that kid wouldn't be subject to clone degeneration in their genetic makeup no matter how small it'd be.
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>>84356322
It always bugged me that Darth Vader would fall for someone like Padme. I mean, there's so many things that the prequels got wrong but honestly, meeting his love when was like 9 years old is just hilarious. They really had no connection whatsoever. Not to mention how it's played out. I'm not sure why romance took such a big role in the movies when you have Sheev and a gigantic war going on. It's like...
>Do you want to watch really bad romance between Darth Vader and Padme?
>Or
>Do you want to watch the galactic war and the fall of the Jedi?
The prequels goes like this
>Episode 1
>Sith exists! Uh oh!
>I have a bad feeling like this
>Episode 2
>Sith exists! Uh oh!
>Romance!
>Discovery of the clone army!
>War!
>Suddenly they get married?...
Episode 3
>Finally we get to the fuckhuge war that's... suddenly ending
>"Vader was seduced by the dark side of the force"
>Hey Anakin, I sorta knew a guy that knew how to stop people from dying.
>THE END
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>>84356648

kek.

I find this akin to Randal's explanation of the LoTR trilogy.
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>>84355504
>That excerpt

Christ, the writing quality definitely has not improved since the first book.
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>>84356781
Why should it? The only ones that didn't like the first one were haters and homophobes! The writing was perfect and had no reason to change! How can you improve something that's already flawless? Master author Chuck Wendig has given us a sublime entry into the Star Wars canon, a book that stands head and shoulders above all other Star Wars books and surpasses even the movies in scope and sheer artistic vision!
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>>84356362
>We have eternity to know your flesh!
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>>84356853
I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm, but it's hard to tell over the internet, especially considering how many people are actually that stupid. Please tell me this is sarcasm.
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>>84356498
You're applying real world cloning to fucking star wars when they have bacta that can regrow fucking organs like kidneys and livers.

I think it's safe to say the Kamino cloning technique is nearly perfect. 99 is a very different subject. And whose to say the Kaminos arent looking at Jangos blood sample for DNA and making new strands from scratch?
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>>84356928
I mean, they actually say that in the episode. They're stretching Jango's material thin.
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>>84356899
It's pretty obvious sarcasm. It's laid on quite thick.
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>>84356648
>Ididntacutallywatchthemovies.avi

When was the last time you saw any of the prequels? Especially in succession from each other? That's not what happens, bro.
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>>84356221
Yeah, TCW already confirmed that they can't just keep cloning the clones. They didn't get into the specifics, but they did point out that they need to use whatever genetic material they got from Jango and it was starting to run thin, hence Lama Su telling Shaak Ti that they needed to find a new clone donor.
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>>84356967
Which episode? I'm not saying your wrong but I want to see. Because that's pants on head retarded.

>we can regrow organs and make biological chips
>cant artificially create DNA even though we have the tech for it

Come to think of it, a lot of technology in Star Wars is used stupidly. You could make cheap droids like T-1000's and have artificial intelligence that rivals clones but they dont do it. Fuck it, they could make nano viruses and wipe out entire systems too.
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>>84356979
Given the use of coolpalpatine.jpg and total "prequels were dumb!" attitude I'm going to guess this is a Plinkettfag.
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>>84357091
Is regrowing body parts and organs with bacta even canon?
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>>84356985
This was all a scheme to bankrupt the republic. Lama Su is a lying bitch
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>>84355837
Yes. He had some forced soap opera love scenes with Padme with her showing half of her sexy-ass titties and her back showing. Then they rolled around in the grass ans shit, rode a stupid-looking space gondola, and Anakin exclaimed the benefits of a Fascist dictatorship!

Oh, and he slaughtered a bunch of women and children "like animals" (more correctly, they are "savages", not animals, kind of like real-life Arabs), and she was totally okay with it.
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>>84356979
Why would anyone lie about having watch the Star Wars movies... in a thread dedicated to Star Wars?
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>>84356498
Actually it will always be less than the original with Clone Troopers because they modified the Clone Troopers genetics. Only Boba was direct duplication from Jango.

Now that said, it's not like Kamino should need to copy from a clone. After all we know they have the Fett genome coded and in their database from the episode where Fives was investigating embryos for signs of Tup's "anomaly". And since we know they can perform genetic manipulation and even manufacture their own designer genes they don't NEED a living tissue sample from Jango to clone him. They can manufacture a new DNA strand from scratch just from their records. Because if they produce an all new gene that doesn't exist in nature they surely can build one based on Fett's genetic blueprints in their computers. Moreover even if a clone does have slight genetic aberrations since the Kaminoans have the database records for all of their clones genomic data they can just correct it manually by swapping out the aberrant genes for new ones to re-conform to the one in their records.
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>>84357123
But why would Lama Su do that? If the Republic goes bankrupt, then Kamino stops getting money. That's all nonsense unless...

Oh shit Lama Su is an accelerationist who wants the galaxy to fall apart! This is madness!
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>>84356928
>>84356967


99 was from a batch that was made while Jango resided on Kamino. I think you guys give too much credit to the Kaminoans. If they were as good as everyone has unrightfully hyped them to be, flawed specimens like 99 wouldn't have been made or would've been fixed in the early embryo stages.

Is Kaminoan cloning perfect? Obviously not. It's certainly better than what we're capable of doing, and they're said to be the among the best in the field. Though how can you say it's perfect when we've never seen anyone else do it in the SW universe? Saying it's perfect I think is unfair given that we've nothing else to measure their prowess to apart from real world counterparts.
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>>84357140
You'd be surprised. We've gotten people here who have admitted to never having watched anything Star Wars but still tried to argue about it.

Usually they're here to spout memes.
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>>84357248
Memes?
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>>84357120
Yes, read Lost Stars and see the Kanan comic.

In Lost Stars, Ciena has to spend about a year in recovery for her injuries during Endor. She gets her major organs permanently damaged and has to have them regrown.
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>>84356985
That didn't even make sense and was a dropped plot point. Why didn't it make sense? Because they said that about Echo and the rest of Domino Squad, however based on their age alone they were among the "units on the way" Obi-Wan was told about. In other words they were created/born a decade before Jango died. Now how did their Jango Juice run so thin when they specifically kept him on hand as they made new clones, all those babies in tanks we saw. Domino Squad was, at most, among the clones we saw eating in AOTCs but probably older (we argue a bit about how the actor portraying the teen clones don't quite look like Temuera).

Even if we consider the idea that they were talking about needing to accept even inferior members of Jango's batch because they couldn't crate new clones, that's silly because even if they got a new donor it would still be ten years before even accelerated aging would get them combat ready. I seriously doubt they were expecting the Clone Wars to last so long those baby clones would have to be sent to any front lines against droids. Even the three years they fought nearly beggared the galaxy.
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>>84357248
But I didn't say anything that was wrong.
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>>84357216
The Muuns control the Republic. they're trying to achieve a new world order led by an evil Muun. you'll see
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>>84357200
>And since we know they can perform genetic manipulation and even manufacture their own designer genes they don't NEED a living tissue sample from Jango to clone him.

Except they do though. They outright said their more recently produced batches were more problematic because the Kaminoans had to keep drawing from their last sample from Jango sparsely in order to be able to keep making more. To keep making more (efficiently), they needed to collect regular samples from him. Like what >>84356967 mentioned.

>They're stretching Jango's material thin.
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>>84357129
Where the fuck's my medicine? Do you want a pizza roll?
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>>84357347
Whether or not it makes sense doesn't matter. It's still canon. If you're looking to make scientific sense out of things in Star Wars, you're only going to give yourself a headache.
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>>84357246
>flawed specimens like 99 wouldn't have been made or would've been fixed in the early embryo stages.

That's a huge assumption. The Kaminoans are business people. Why assume they'd terminate obviously flawed clones when they can just be repurposed. No sense in wasting materials when they can always use another janitor. They also seem to study aberrant clones. Sometimes the mutations prove beneficial. Did 99's? Not physically but you never know.

I'd actually hazard that the fact that 99 was in such a physical state instead of having him surgically corrected proves that they wish to see how even failed clones perform. It's also entirely possible that one of 99s purposes was as a way to scare clone cadets that if they "fail" they'll end up like him.
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>>84357444
Who is looking for a scientific explanation? It's all about consistency within the world as they present it, anon. Whether it IS canon or not, it's a dropped plot point that's never come up again very probably because they realized it made no sense.

This isn't about trying to figure out what the hell Mortis was, this is an instance where the dialogue of characters doesn't match the logic of the situation as presented elsewhere in canon. This is where canon is at odds with canon. Now in instances such as this when characters talking is matched against the far more indisputable nature of how the clones are created and how long it takes them to mature even under accelerated aging the dialogue is suspect. Either they didn't mean what they seemed to mean or they were misspeaking.

No matter how you try to deny it Domino Squad's members were born years before Jango died so their ill-performance owes absolutely nothing to Jango's genes being "stretched".
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>>84357416
I knew we shouldn't have elected Muuns to the position of sheriff!
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>>84357436
>AARRRRGGGHHHH!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du0buC_H0CQ
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>>84357576
No, it's cool, we got 'em all
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>>84357129
This entire chart proves why Plinkett didn't understand Anakin as a character.

>creepy comments
They weren't and were never implied to be. Padme is very impressed with Anakin's compliments. Did people really not see Padme holding back from him? She's eyeing Anakin up like a meal but she has the mask of professionalism. After his rant, she is completely understanding and finds herself in his position only she has a better grasp of control over it instead of Anakin. The deleted scenes really highlight this and I wish they were never cut. Padme's family starts commenting on their flirtatious attitudes and advances.

>supports fascism
He doesn't. He was commenting that the system was deeply corrupted and maybe things should change. Then he starts mocking Padme. The scene ends with them laughing hysterically about the conversation. It's like he wasn't watching the movie just making a comment.

>megolo rant
He IS the Chosen One meant to bring balance to the Force. He's not wrong its destiny he's suppose to be a powerful Jedi. But he admits he's failing as a person and Jedi to the person he loves. She understands him.
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>>84353801
>Luke fucks up again
Yes please.
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>>84351459

I love him actually.

Because he's the fool, and he's a great character that only gets better the more you watch and know about him.

>Clumbsy, but his influence leads to a lasting alliance between the Naboo and the Gungans
>Becomes the representative of his people to the galactic republic
>Saved his people from seperatist scheming
>Always comes through for his friends and companions
>helped finalize the creation of the clone army which became a force for good (only until the end)
>is the lover of a queen

And despite being an imperial official, he actually remained quite popular with the people of Naboo.
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>>84357458
>Why assume they'd terminate obviously flawed clones

I wasn't. I meant 'flawed specimens like 99 wouldn't have been made' as in that their cloning was so spot on that errors just wouldn't have occurred. Which obviously isn't the case, because 99 happened. Which is my point. The Kaminoan cloning process is as hot shit as everyone has allowed themselves to believe it to be.

>I'd actually hazard that the fact that 99 was in such a physical state instead of having him surgically corrected proves that they wish to see how even failed clones perform. It's also entirely possible that one of 99s purposes was as a way to scare clone cadets that if they "fail" they'll end up like him.

I don't disagree with this. Actually, I think that's kinda interesting. Never thought of it that way before.
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>>84357751
>The Kaminoan cloning process is as hot shit

*cloning process is NOT as hot shit

My bad.
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>>84357688
This entire post is proof anon haven't watched plinkett at all.
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We could run this Domino Squad thing by Pablo and see what he says.
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>>84357688
Shut up, Coloclawfish. You FUCK!

>They weren't and were never implied to be.
Yeeaaah. No. He gives her creepy ass looks the entire time, and asks them in a very inappropriate manner.

>He doesn't.
Uh, yes he does.
Anakin: "We need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problem, agree with what's in the best interests of all the people, and and then do it."
Padme: "That's exactly what we do. The trouble is that people don't always agree."
Anakin: "Well than they should be made to."
Padme: "By whom? Who's going to make them?"
Anakin: "Someone."
Padme: "You?"
Anakin: "Of course not me."
Padme: "Than who?"
Anakin: "Someone wise."

Yeaaahhh. That doesn't sound like the Socialist "Dear Leader" at all. No sir.

>He IS the Chosen One meant to bring balance to the Force. He's not wrong its destiny he's suppose to be a powerful Jedi.
What the fuck?! This is "Muhammad was a rapist, therefore rape is halal" logic.
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>>84357094
I like how this turned out to be an accurate assessment.
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>>84358109
It isn't.
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Dave is one of us.
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>>84358320
Someone who can't give up his waifu?
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>>84358320
>Creator of Ahsoka is an Ahsokafag
Alert the media. Who'd a thunk
Where have you been for the past millennia?
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>>84358320
Dave is the original Ahsokafag
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>84358320
I want this
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>>84358374
It's a meme, you dip.
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>>84358370
>kills the waifus and husbandos of others with reckless abandon
>hesitates to kill his own
>when he finally does can't even commit to it and leaves it open-ended
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>>84358410
orange
buttcheeks
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>>84358320
I had my suspicions.

I mean, that one episode of The Star Wars show where he pounds her ass.
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>>84358442
classic Dave
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>>84342701
Guy from last night. I'm going to start turning this into an image now. Sorry I couldn't do it earlier today, some stuff came up and I was busy all day.
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>>84358423
>Is trapped on the planet with no way off.
>Goes as crazy as Maul when he was re-introduced in TCW over time.
>35 years later goes out like a punk to Kylo Ren because he wants to finish what Vader started.

Of course that'll never happen, not on Filoni's watch.
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>>84358470
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>>84358423
Filoni cannot follow his own advice. Darth Lucas allowed him to save Ahsoka once, were he still here he would not allow him to get away with it a second time. His attachment to her is a distraction. Soon the next Sith apprentice will take his place and kill Ahsoka.
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>>84358320
>that top part of the image
Dave knows about little 'soka...
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>>84359157
>Darth Lucas allowed him to save Ahsoka once, were he still here he would not allow him to get away with it a second time
In all seriousness yeah, I don't think George would let him do the Schrodinger's Ahsoka thing. I don't think he would've let them drag Maul's story out like this, either. It was his idea to bring him back in the first place but it seemed like he had a particular story with a particular ending in mind- the fact that they never got a chance to commit to that ending due to the cancellation of TCW is the reason they could justify having him still be alive.
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TFA duel with ROTJ soundtrack. What do you think? I think it almost makes Rey seem like the villain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATCj7GgPGM
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>>84359157
Fuck Lucas. He was a lazy hack who never explained anything about the history of the Galaxy, and just left it to other, better writers to flesh out for him. He was worse than Disney in some respects. The only positive thing I can say about him, is that he didn't shove "Social Justice" down our collective throats constantly.
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>>84359294
>that thumbnail
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>>84359351
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>>84359294
P O T T E R Y

Hopefully Rey and Kylo Ren will do a switcharo.
It's only natural for Rey to progress towards the dark side after TFA.
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>>84359294

It syncs up interestingly. Unless you tweaked it some (I can't tell since I haven't seen TFA since it was in theaters). But overall, I don't think it fits. The fight between Luke and Vader in RoTJ had so much weight behind it and Rey and Kylo's doesn't even come close. The RoTJ duel felt like it was the emotional culmination of everything that happened in the previous five movies. And the Sith theme happening after Kylo gets hit also doesn't fit. Especially when the chasm starts to open. It just doesn't fit.
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>>84359351
Did you mean: J.J. Abrams
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>>84359475

Something new and exotic. As much as I loved worlds like Naboo and Coruscant, I think we should go for something we haven't seen before. At the very least a planet that's appeared in the books but not in a visual sense if we HAVE to go with something familiar. But hopefully it'll be something that has flora, fauna and geography that isn't earth like.
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>>84359475
A biome that hasn't already been used in the previous movies, or at least a fresh take on it.
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>>84359492
>And the Sith theme happening after Kylo gets hit also doesn't fit. Especially when the chasm starts to open. It just doesn't fit.

I disagree. When I hear Sheev's theme while the defeated Kylo is on screen, I somehow have to imagine that Sheev is part of the reason why all of this happened. Like, the soundtrack reminds of how Sheev (and Snoke) completely ruined the Skywalker legacy.
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>>84359492
I thought the same.
The track is supposed to reflect the emotional part of the Vader v Luke duel.
While I never understood why Rey and Kylo Ren even had such hard feelings for each other.

I mean yeah, Kylo killed Han, but Rey had just met the guy. Yet she acts like he just killed her dad or something.
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>>84359572
Even after death, Sheev Sheeved them all.
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>>84359475
Literally anything that isn't a desert, forest, or snow planet.

I'd like some more alien planets like Utapau, or Felucia, with fantasy-esque environments.

But I think as long as we can avoid desert/forest/snow for the rest of the trilogy, we're good.

>>84359294
Nice
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>>84359607
Honestly I'd settle for "forest, but instead of green leaves they're red" or something as mundane as that. At least it would be visually different from what we've gotten.
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>>84359572
>When I hear Sheev's theme while the defeated Kylo is on screen, I somehow have to imagine that Sheev is part of the reason why all of this happened.

I don't completely agree with you, but I respect your opinion. Yet still, if you had to have the Sith theme, you might could've thrown in the bit of the track where Sidious is force-lingtining-ing luke in where the chasm opens. Music needs to react to and enhance what's happening in the scene. Just having the Sith theme go consistent/steady like that just flow right.
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>>84357983
>He gives her creepy ass looks the entire time, and asks them in a very inappropriate manner.
Maybe for the audience but not for Padme. She's completely infatuated with Anakin. Watch her actions and looks closely in Attack of the Clones. Also have this: https://youtu.be/tM5Lu40PZJQ?t=256

>Uh, yes he does.
You should finish quotes before taking them out of context. I'll finish it for you:
>Padme: "That sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me."
>Anakin: "Well... if it works."
Padme: "You’re making fun of me."
Anakin: (laughs) No, I’d be much too frightened to tease a senator.
>both laugh about it

>This is "Muhammad was a rapist, therefore rape is halal" logic.
What?
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>>84359651
>but instead of green leaves they're red"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFAgvYlG0fs
heh
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>>84359258
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>>84359475
I want to see a gloomy dark side planet. Something like Dromund Kaas or Malachor V. Bonus points if it's the planet where Snoke came from.
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V best
IV
VI
VII
III
I
II worst
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>>84359258
OH IS IT THAT TIME AGAIN?
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>>84359577
Well he did torture her. Oh, and he slaughtered Finn who was basically her only friend. Aside from Han who he murdered just before.
I think Rey had a good reason to be pissed.
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>>84359438
Nope, not bait. It's absolute and utter truth. What's with the Lucas dicksucking, anyway?

>>84359499
No, I meant George Lucas. He made three "The Force Awakens" tier movies in a row. He also had the most "hands on" development in Return of the Jedi, which was the worst of the three originals, Palpatine and Jabba notwithstanding.

So far, Abrams only made one "Prequel-tier" piece of shit. Lucas made three.
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>>84359294
I can feel the... THE POTTERY
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>>84359808
DELETE THIS
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>>84357983
>that sidious
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>>84359788
V
VI
III = VI
VII
I
II
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>>84359788
ESB > ANH > ROTJ = ROTS > AOTC > TPM = TFA
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>>84359788
V
IV
VII
VI (fuck the ewoks)
III
I
II
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>>84359351
>>84359815
Are you well, anon?
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>>84359788
V
III
IV
VI
VII
I
II
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>>84359788
III > V > VI > IV > VII > I > II
I'm not saying episode III is the best SW movie, I'm saying I enjoy it the most.
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>>84359788
>God tier

The Empire Strikes Back

>Good tier

A New Hope, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens

>Decent tier

Revenge of the Sith

>Shit tier

The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones
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>>84359888
>>84359919
>>84359949
>>84360008
I want prequel faggots to leave
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>no one mentions the masterpiece that is the Holiday Special

Plebs.
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>>84360047
no u
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>>84360047
I want YOU to leave

I don't Anon, pls stay
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>>84360047
If it were possible to get rid of undesirables just by a simple post, 4chan would be a better place.

But, much like what will become of Rey, it's an exercise in futility.
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>>84360083
>tfw can't watch VR porn in the living room
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>>84359788
In terms of enjoyability for me:

III=I
II
V
VI=IV
VII
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>>84360047
>Implying 3 was bad
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>tfw no VR lightsaber game
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>>84360047
NO, NO, NO NO NO YOU WILL LEAVE
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>>84359744
>Maybe for the audience but not for Padme.
That's the entire point. The audience are the people who interpret the entire fucking scene. If he comes off as creepy to most people, then he is most likely being creepy. Also, there was no genuine affection there. Anakin just sounds like an asshole, and she sounds somewhat annoyed.

>She's completely infatuated with Anakin.
Oh, yeah! Nothing says "infatuation" like "awkward attempts a blowing off his angry/childish attempts at hitting on her" until they get to Naboo and fall in love instantly.

>both laugh about it
You're a complete retard. So, because they laugh at the end, that somehow doesn't make the answers genuine? It pretty much was serious until he said that last line, which was the only line of "teasing" there. The rest was honest political discussion.

>What?
Saying it's okay to slaughter an entire tribe of sand people "because it is the will of the Force, and he is it's Chosen One", is the same thing as excusing Muhammad of butchering villages "because it is the will of Allah, and he is his Messenger".
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>>84360159
I'm not trying to sound angry but seriously, how can anyone enjoy TPM? Are the tedious senate scenes and Anakin's stupid ass dialogue not enough to turn people off?
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>>84360203
https://youtu.be/ZDDr6KjSpAY
Trials on Tat-Tat-Toot.
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>>84360233
I like the Senate scenes and I have no problem with how Anakin talks. He's a kid.

I really like the podrace, Duel of the Fates, the space battle, Gungans vs Droids, etc. There's very little that I dont like.
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>>84360263
>Trials on Tatooine
>Thumbnail has lightsabers
Oh boy I hope I get to kill some sandpeople.
>50 seconds of jump cuts
>3 seconds of gameplay.
T-thanks, ILM.
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>>84360331
I think there's some gameplay on IGN's channel.
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>>84360233
>I'm not trying to sound angry but seriously, how can anyone enjoy TPM?
Different people have different tastes. I don't really like it much, but despite what the internet has taught you for the last 17 years, Episode 1 isn't hated by literally every person that has ever seen it.
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>>84360209
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>>84360233
>Are the tedious senate scenes and Anakin's stupid ass dialogue not enough to turn people off?

The senate scenes are some of the best stuff to come out of Star Wars in my opinion. I loved seeing Sheev completely within his element pulling everyone's strings. Anakin never bothered me at all.
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>>84360390
It's not even so much the game I'm interested in, it's more so how awful the trailer is. I never expected a video literally composed of 100% jump cuts, especially from ILM. That's worse then JJ-tier editing.
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>>84359754
The sad part is that as lazy as that is for an alien environment, it's still more creative than any of the planets he gave us in TFA
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>>84360483
Current year trailers.
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>>84359788
V
VI
IV
III
VII
I
II
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>>84360483
It looks goddamn awful. Not just the trailer, but the game in general.

>Virtual Reality.
>First Person.

Just give me a remake of KoTOR, and I'll be fine.

Also: best trailers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkgzXpKbVGE

V
IV
VI
III=VII
I
II
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What are you most hype about as far as Star Wars goes?

I'm most excited about Donnie Yen playing a blind spear-wielding user of the Force. Dude has more range than any martial arts movie star I can think of.

>flowing wire-fu artsy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcmrXw0IR5g

>flashy modern "sword fight" with a baton and knife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZs48lJXhxM

>channeling his inner Bruce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-vnbHRZRGk

>brutal MMA fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smLAFCVNpwA

Assuming decent choreography that uses his abilities to their potential, this will be the coolest rendition of the Force in a movie to date.
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>>84359815
>So far, Abrams only made one "Prequel-tier" piece of shit. Lucas made three.
Abrams haven't created anything good ever. Lucas created Star Wars. Fuck off.
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>>84360743
I thought he wasn't actually a Force-user, just subscribed to Jedi philosophy
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>>84360911
They've said that he uses mystical powers in order to fight the way he does while also being blind so I assume he has the force. I bet you $50 that if he lives he'll end up in Luke's Jedi Academy.
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>>84360743
>I'm most excited about Donnie Yen playing a blind spear-wielding user of the Force.

Except multiple magazine articles have said that he's not force sensitive. He's a Jediaboo.
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>>84360981
>They've said that he uses mystical powers in order to fight the way he does
Gotta source me on that.
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>>84359808
DELETE THIS
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>>84360981
>They've said that he uses mystical powers in order to fight the way he does while also being blind so I assume he has the force
They've said he's used his spirituality to deal with his blindness, but that's not the same as having powers.
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>>84360825
>That asshurt.
What's the matter, Prequel baby? Don't like your hero getting trashed?

And, no, Lucas didn't "create Star Wars". All he did was pitch an idea, it was everyone else that brought it to life, as well as told Lucas that most of his ideas were fucking retarded, such as Han Solo being some kind of frog creature. Once Lucas, your hero, got full control, it went to shit in terms of movies. Many of the old EU writers did a better job with the Star Wars brand than Lucas did. Deal with it.

Also, Abrams has made some good movies as a director (The Star Trek ones being the only examples I can think of ATM), Lucas hasn't made a decent movie on his own since American Graffiti. You fuck off, Lucas dicksucker and Prequal lover.
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>>84359808
DON'T POST THAT AGAIN
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>>84361002
Wait nevermind. They've said that he isn't force sensitive but he uses the force to help him fight while being blind. So basically who the fuck knows at this point. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chirrut_%C3%8Emwe

Anyone else annoyed by weird shit like this in nucanon? I feel like every other month some new thing comes out that makes absolutely no sense like everything that's happened in between Episode 6 and 7.
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>>84359808
I just finished fapping and I'm hard again. Thanks a lot

>>84361052
>Liking Star Trek reboot
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>>84361052
>You fuck off, Lucas dicksucker and Prequal lover.
Yeah, not bait at all
Stop replying to this idiot
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>>84361052
>What's the matter, Prequel baby?
I don't even like them, anon.
>And, no, Lucas didn't "create Star Wars"
There's retarded and there's I can't even believe there's anyone retarded tier. You're the latter.
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>>84361078
Except that doesn't say anything about him using the Force. Do you not actually know what "spirituality" means?
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>>84360995
Ah, fair enough. Regardless, I'm hype to see his fight scenes. Seriously, watch some of those videos and see if they don't blow every action sequence in Star Wars out of the water.
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>>84361052
>LensFlareTrek
>good
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>>84361079
The first Star Trek film wasnt terrible. Of course, the new Trek films are not much like the old shows and movies, but I liked the first one, Into Darkness was meh, and Beyond might be good
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>>84361143
>Seriously, watch some of those videos and see if they don't blow every action sequence in Star Wars out of the water.

They don't. But I don't deny that they're good.
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Was this an quick and unseen struggle of the Force and wills between the chosen one and his master, the most powerful Sith Lord ever, or was it a cyborg picking up and throwing a distracted 90 year-old man from behind to his death?
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>>84361079
>Liking Star Trek reboot
>Implying that the Star Trek Generations movies were good.
Nothing wrong with that, you Purist. It's a good action movie. I don't give a fuck about your "Star Trek" canon, snob. All I care about is that it was entertaining. It also wasn't a direct scene-by-scene copy of "A New Hope" with social justice thrown in.

>>84361119
>There's retarded and there's I can't even believe there's anyone retarded tier. You're the latter.
Sorry, Champ. Lucas didn't create Star Wars. He was just one of many people who worked to make it. Go read Lucas's original ideas for Star Wars. They were Prequel-tier crap. 90% of his ideas were severely changed or didn't make it in at all, because the editors and execs said they were retarded. That's not "bait", that's reality.
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>>84361256
Yeah, the first was alright. I didn't like Into Darkness at all, and I've come to realize that it's for some of the same reasons I didn't like TFA (Into Darkness was basically a two hour love letter to Wrath of Khan and tried to mirror a lot of the emotional moments in it without understanding why they worked in WoK), but either way the new Star Trek movies sort of miss the point of the franchise. They're action movies with a sci-fi coating. That in itself doesn't necessarily make them bad movies, but it does make them bad Star Trek movies.
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>>84361372
What's funny to me is that Simon Pegg is still bitching about the prequels and how they "missed the point" of Star Wars while taking an active role in a set of movies that miss the point of Star Trek (he's actually writing the new one).
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>>84361346
They weren't even all that great as action movies.
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>>84361078
The only one that's having difficulty with this is you. Stop adding details that aren't there.

>>84361346
>Lucas didn't create Star Wars. He was just one of many people who worked to make it.
Just because Lucas alone didn't fulfill every single role on the crew doesn't mean he didn't create it.

That's a weak argument and you know it.
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>>84361346
The reality is that you seem to have aspergers.
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>>84361413
He made Sulu gay and even George Takei is all "no that's dumb, if you want a gay character just make a new one instead of turning a straight character gay"
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>>84361346
I don't care about Canon either, they are bad movies
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>>84361424
>That's a weak argument and you know it.
He's a known troll. He's repeated the part about how editors and execs changed tons of stuff from the original drafts before (Lucas himself changed most of that way before production) and it's not the first time. Stop giving him what he wants.
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>>84361372
>two hour love letter to Wrath of Khan
Not even a love letter, before release they were trying to trick the public saying the villain isn't Khan, only for it to be Khan like everyone literally suspected.

>>84361413
You're right. Simon Pegg before release has to pretend that the film has elements of Gene's vision of the future - which it doesn't, and that it will surprise fans - which it hasn't.

Pegg also gets to bitch about the prequels, but gets to voice Dengar in TCW - which is set in the Prequel era. But it's okay because he was in the OT so shush.

>>84361450
Takei is right. And it's not just that, apparently they asked him about the character change twice in production and he didn't like the idea, but they did it anyway, presumably without telling him, only for him to find out now. That's pretty low.
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>>84361256
Also, Into Darkness was pretty good, up until that retarded rip ending.

>>84361372
Not really. Only the ending was an obvious rip off, with the exception of Khan living. Most of the plot was new, too. It certainly wasn't "movie of the year", but it was enjoyable enough, to me. TFA was one long scene-for-scene rip off, plot wise.

>Empire builds giant murderball.
>"Resistance" hides plans in Astromech-like droid.
>Plans are found by some teenager wearing earth-toned rags on "not-Tatooine".

And so on.

>>84361424
Okay, I'll rephrase it: Lucas wasn't the sole creative visionary that controlled every aspect of the movie, like he was in the Prequels. He had people he had to listen to, people who told him what was good, and what was not good. Editors and directors that had actual influence and power.

>>84361429
I do. How'd you guess?!
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>>84361549
>I do. How'd you guess?!
No social skills. You're either a bad troll or just retarded.
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>>84361589
How is anything I've said "retarded", and what standard do you use to determine that, outside of your own trolling opinion, dipshit?
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>>84361344
Jane, you ignorant slut.

He joined the Sith. He knew what he was getting into. I say 'they got what was coming to them'.

This would make some great point/counter-point stuff.
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>>84361549
>He had people he had to listen to
Lucas owned the entire company at the time. He is the head honcho, the buck stops with him. Of course there were other executives to assist him, like with literally every other big budget film in existence. People in charge of certain aspects of the film. But Lucas is the one it always comes down to. Designs go through him, Sound goes through him, Music goes through him.
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>>84361529
>Pegg also gets to bitch about the prequels, but gets to voice Dengar in TCW - which is set in the Prequel era. But it's okay because he was in the OT so shush.
I don't even know how he got the job. He's been a vocal critic of the prequels and Lucas, but he was cool taking Lucas's money to be in a prequel-era production. Then come TFA promotion time he's right back to hating on Lucas.
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>>84361549
>Lucas wasn't the sole creative visionary that controlled every aspect of the movie, like he was in the Prequels.
He wasnt with the prequels though. Have you even seen the behind-the-scenes?

>He had people he had to listen to, people who told him what was good, and what was not good. Editors and directors that had actual influence and power.

He had those with the prequels too, even if a lot of people he asked turned him down
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>>84361712
Yeah, it's pretty hypocritical. I liked the voice he did for Dengar, but fortunately it's not hard to replicate- the guy in the Freemaker series is doing a good job.
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>>84361843
who's voicing Dengar on Battlefront?
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>>84361712
To be fair TCW isn't unadulterated garbage like the prequels.
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>>84361712
Pegg just liked the show. You can enjoy things set in the prequel era even if you think the prequels themselves were bad movies. A lot of people loved games like Pod Racer or Republic Commando, for example.
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>>84361944
No one is saying he can't enjoy the show. But for has vocal as he is not just about the quality of the films, but the lore and era itself, to attach himself to a project like TCW is a bit of an eye-roll.
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>>84358632
What do you guys think so far?
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>>84361926
Not sure, but it doesn't sound like Pegg
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>>84361734
>He wasnt with the prequels though. Have you even seen the behind-the-scenes?
You mean the ones where he just bosses everyone around, and inspects every little detail to make sure they are doing it the way he wants?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8s9m4zEpo [Embed]

>He had those with the prequels too, even if a lot of people he asked turned him down
No. He literally told the director when to say "cut", and was the final say in any other decisions. If he had people who questioned him creatively, he wouldn't have put in such crap like Jar Jar or the overly-bloated ending (which Rick McCallum didn't even TRY to point out that the writing would lead to too many things taking place at once, which was Lucas' fault).

He ran the movies like a dictatorship, instead of letting the actors, directors, and editors do their things and debating them.
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>>84361926
>>84362129
Apparently, it is Pegg
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>>84362033


>Not back in 1977, he wasn't. FOX were the ones that co-produced the movie and paid for it. They had editors and people who could tell Lucas what to do, such as with editing or directing.
Editors, such has Marcia Lucas, his wife?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcia_Lucas

Come on now, are you even informed?

>He ran the movies like a dictatorship, instead of letting the actors, directors, and editors do their things and debating them.
Debatable, but that itself confirms that he's the one in charge.
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>>84362149
>Editors, such has Marcia Lucas, his wife?
You mean the one who left him? Doesn't change the fact that he had people who questioned him back then, and didn't by the time of the Prequels.

>Debatable, but that itself confirms that he's the one in charge.
The point being that he was the only one with any creative control. He also treats his actors like slaves that have to obey his every command perfectly. He's a control freak. That's not a good thing, especially when making a movie. Also, by "the movies", I meant the Prequels. Irvin Kershner wasn't taking any of Lucas' bossing around.
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>>84362250
>You mean the one who left him?
Irrelevant.
>Doesn't change the fact that he had people who questioned him back then, and didn't by the time of the Prequels.
Plinkett please.

>The point being that he was the only one with any creative control.
I thought were were talking about Lucas creating Star Wars. Stop moving goalposts .
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>>84362116
Nice
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>>84362385
It looks a little bare bones but when I'm finished inputting all the info I'll add some episode pictures to the side and center the main logo at the top and it should look a lot better.
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>>84362135
>You mean the ones where he just bosses everyone around, and inspects every little detail to make sure they are doing it the way he wants?
He does literally none of that. He was the director of the films, it's his job to do things like look over the props and concept art and stuff. Are you retarded? He doesn't "boss" people around as much as he tells them what to do or give suggestions as he's, you know, the director.

>No. He literally told the director when to say "cut",
He was the director of all three prequels. Are you retarded?

>and was the final say in any other decisions.
He's the director. That's part of his job.

>If he had people who questioned him creatively, he wouldn't have put in such crap like Jar Jar

But Jar Jar wasn't even that bad, there's no reason anyone would have told him not to include him. If anything, if some of the people he'd asked to come on had come on(like Lawrence Kasdan, for example) they'd have told him how to make Jar Jar come off a little better(like he was in TCW)

>or the overly-bloated ending (which Rick McCallum didn't even TRY to point out that the writing would lead to too many things taking place at once, which was Lucas' fault).
I don't remember any over-bloated ending.

>He ran the movies like a dictatorship, instead of letting the actors, directors, and editors do their things and debating them.
Not really. In fact, he did basically the exact opposite.
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>>84362135
>He didn't watch everyone looking scared to tell Lucas no
I'm done with you, troll
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>>84362116
Looking good. I think you should add a mention for episodes that further Anakin as a character
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Both sides are kinda right, actually. Lucas was the one who created Star Wars and he had a lot more creative influence on TESB than people think. On the other hand, it's true that no one was there to hold him back when he made the prequels which is definitely the main reason for many of their flaws.
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>>84362528
For those I've just given them three stars and made them must watches.
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>>84353929
I don't get the boner everyone has over the supposed practical effects of TFA. It has just as much CGI as any of the Prequels.
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>>84362730
Because people are fools who bought into Disney's marketing and can't think for themselves on how visual effects are used in the film industry today.
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>>84362730
Most of the boner was pre-release, when they really hyped up the "wow, REAL effects!" because so many people have bought into the idea that the prequels were all CGI.

It's especially funny when you watch some of the behind the scenes stuff and Abrams is realizing that the practical BB-8 model can't actually do a lot of the shit he needs it do, so he ends up being CGI or CG-assisted for a significant amount of the movie.

Even then, the practical effects that they did have weren't spectacular, particularly the creatures, which is a shame.
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>>84359294
That just made me realize that I don't know any songs from TFA. Aside from the Han and Leia theme, none of the songs in TFA stood out to me.
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>>84362966
Shit. I don't recall any of the music now that you mention it
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>>84362966
Rey's theme stood out to me. Kylo's too, but only because of how simple it is- I'd barely even call it a theme.

The Resistance theme too, but a large part of the reason I even remember it is because when I heard it I thought "hey, that sounds reeeeally familiar" and it turns out it's the music playing while the rebels are preparing their defenses on Hoth, only turned into a full theme. It's a bit of a cheat.
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>>84362966
>None of the music on TFA was memorable
How did this happen?
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>>84362453
>He does literally none of that. He was the director of the films, it's his job to do things like look over the props and concept art and stuff. Are you retarded? He doesn't "boss" people around as much as he tells them what to do or give suggestions as he's, you know, the director.
He wasn't just the director. He controlled literally everything in the movie, such as the editing, production, art, and writing. Stop evading the points, you fucktard.

>He was the director of all three prequels. Are you retarded?
I was thinking of Roger Christian. Are you a cunt? You apparently seem to be one.

>He's the director. That's part of his job.
Wrong. A director is the person who just orders the ACTORS around. Lucas was always a shitty director, and he himself hated it. He preferred editing, which he enjoyed.

>But Jar Jar wasn't even that bad, there's no reason anyone would have told him not to include him.
What part of "surrounded by yes men" don't you understand? His employees weren't going to question him because they were sycophants.

>I don't remember any over-bloated ending.
Four fucking action scenes. It becomes very distracting and cluttered to switch between "space battle", "Droid Army vs. Gungan Army", "Lightsaber battle", and "capturing Nute Gunray". Two of those should have been combined. The first two Star Wars movies had very little clutter, in terms of ending scenes. They didn't constantly jump between four different perspectives. SW had a near perfect ending: they attack the Death Star, and it is entirely focused on that and the rebels below dealing with it. ESB has only 2 action scenes: lightsaber duel, and the other heroes fleeing Cloud City. Nothing overly convoluted or cringey, like having Annie go "YAHOO!" after watching Qui-gon get impaled.

>>84362519
You just agreed with me. You're the "troll" here, moron.
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>>84363085
Apparently it was a combination of rushed scoring schedule, a smaller orchestra and Williams not being given a finished cut of the movie to work with. I think Williams is also getting a little rusty.
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>>84362966

Because it's the weakest score of the franchise. And it's so because Disney/JJ didn't let Williams work to his fullest. They made him score the movie AS it was still being filmed, as opposed to what Lucas did in giving Williams fully edited cuts of the movies to score. Also, they didn't let him use the LSO and forced him to use some smaller local L.A. orchestra instead. So yeah. Given with what he had to work with, it was good. But nowhere near as good if they had let him do his job properly.


https://youtu.be/TGNdEJawm7A?list=PLg1hvssN_l38N0eYKv_P6WH5l2AhQydTc
https://youtu.be/fYSgp47Y4dc?list=PLg1hvssN_l39qwdlQYpGrmgmtyNhKpmRg
https://youtu.be/6Md6HkaqTvM?list=PLg1hvssN_l39g1Bd1Uwa-d2ay5GDfPkUu
https://youtu.be/hoWyE6IZS1o?list=PLg1hvssN_l3_vCzEC7G1sko5vt06jSe5z
https://youtu.be/fo2kXIZdFpc?list=PLg1hvssN_l3-4OjrxqF8kGMb4cl9gnuS_
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>>84362730
The funniest thing is that TFA, in terms of practical vs CGI, was not too much different from the prequels. Plenty of sets and practical stuff but also a lot of CGI.

>>84362966
The only ones I can name are Rey's Theme, Snoke, and The Jedi Steps
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I've been working on my own version of guide for TCW, that is mostly to show the big character arcs. I'm gonna add one for Anakin next.
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>>84363088
>He wasn't just the director. He controlled literally everything in the movie, such as the editing, production, art, and writing.
That's HIS JOB.

>I was thinking of Roger Christian.
He was the second-unit director. AKA the person in charge of supplementary footage like establishing shots, stunts, inserts, and cutaways.

>>84363088
>Wrong. A director is the person who just orders the ACTORS around.

Wrong. According to Wikipedia, a director is:

A film director is a person who directs the making of a film. Generally, a film director controls a film's artistic and dramatic aspects, and visualizes the script while guiding the technical crew and actors in the fulfillment of that vision. The director has a key role in choosing the cast members, production design, and the creative aspects of filmmaking.

The film director gives direction to the cast and crew and creates an overall vision through which a film eventually becomes realized, or noticed. Directors need to be able to mediate differences in creative visions and stay in the boundaries of the film's budget. Directors use different approaches. Some outline a general plotline and let the actors improvise dialogue, while others control every aspect, and demand that the actors and crew follow instructions precisely.

>Lucas was always a shitty director....
Irrelevant and/or mostly your opinion.

>What part of "surrounded by yes men" don't you understand?
He wasn't surrounded by "yes men"

>It becomes very distracting and cluttered to switch between "space battle", "Droid Army vs. Gungan Army", "Lightsaber battle", and "capturing Nute Gunray".......

So basically your complaint here is "ANH and ESB didn't do it, therefore no Star Wars movies should"? Because you fail to note that ESB and ANH had smaller casts of characters and that ROTJ(which had a larger cast of characters) had 3 sequences going on at once.
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>>84363241
Looks good, cool idea.
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>>84360233
>baiting this much

>>>/tv/
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>>84363439
Stop feeding him already
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Time to go waifu hunting
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>>84362116
I'd prefer titles even on the unimportant ones
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>>84363866
He won't go down easy
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>>84363439
>Directors rant.
Okay, okay. I was wrong. Stop sperging out, Colo. Also, yes, he was a shitty director, as the acting was hideously bland and unemotional. It's not the actors fault the director sucked at his job.

Go watch that scene of Anakin telling Padme "I am so in love with you". It's the corniest, stupidest shit I've seen before TFA. And that's just one example.

>So basically your complaint here is "ANH and ESB didn't do it, therefore no Star Wars movies should"? Because you fail to note that ESB and ANH had smaller casts of characters and that ROTJ(which had a larger cast of characters) had 3 sequences going on at once.

No. No. I'm saying most movies don't do that, as it leaves the audience confused and exhausted. Only the very best and most creative directors get to break that mold successfully. Most don't try, though. ROTJ was ALSO too cluttered. They could have easily combined the assault on the Death Star with the shield generator attack. Lucas himself thought the ending of TPM was too cluttered, and didn't have enough room to breath and let the audience process emotions (if they felt any).

>>84363499
Anyone who disagrees with Lord Lucas is a troll! Fucking pussy.
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>>84363962
He said waifu not husbando. Still a great taste, anon.
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>>84362966
Honestly, the only theme I remember is that melody that plays when Rey gets the lightsaber during the fight against Kylo, and that's only because it was used in an older movie.
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im on chapter 7 of bloodline...does this shit get any better? Awful so far.

Its a shame cus lost stars was so good
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>>84364600
If you don't like space politics you won't like the book.
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>>84364663

The way I had it explained to me seemed like a lot of it was about Ben being raised and what turned him to the dark side. Was I mislead?
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>>84364690
Yes. Ben isn't even involved in the story, other than hearing from Leia that Luke took Ben to some shithole of the galaxy that doesn't get holonet.
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All done.
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>>84364690
Very much so, as Ben doesn't even appear in the book. The only thing the book contains involving Ben are a few mentions that he's in some remote, difficult to contact location training with Luke.
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>>84364767
>>84364888
....fuck
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So the new lego game is canon?
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>>84364943
Kind of. The bonus levels are paraphrased canon and it has tons of unlockable new canon characters.
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>>84364690
>>84364930
Did you get a description of the book before it even came out or something? That rumor stopped happening once people started to actually read it.
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>>84365039

Yeha, before it was out and I Thought i remembered one of the hosts on Colliders Jedi Council talking about it
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So, it appears that we're getting Luke and Leia in the next episode of Freemakers
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>>84364930
The book does however explain why Ben turned to the dark side and how Leia creates the Resistance though so I would still read it since it's fairly important.
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>>84365085
Which episode? When? Last episode I watched was episode 5.
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>>84360225
>my opinion is right despite what the movie says

>So, because they laugh at the end
Was Anakin being serious? To an extent but was he full on dictator? Absolutely not. He and many others were frustrated with the bureaucratic mess of the Republic. They wanted things to change. The scene was an attempt to show the audience a little bit of Vader but it wasn't all him. Watch the fucking movie first before you talk shit. You're taking scenes out of complete context.

>Saying it's okay to slaughter an entire tribe of sand people "because it is the will of the Force
No one said that. What was said is Anakin is the chosen one meant to bring balance to the Force. Anakin was taught as a child he was going to have access to things no one ever dreamed of. Are you forgetting how conflicted he was talking to Padme? He says he's not the Jedi he should be. He knows he fucked up by killing those sand people and giving into his emotions. It's also implied he's afraid of failing. The anakin and obi comics have Anakin tempted to leave the order because of his own instability.
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>>84365145
Episode 6, which will air on Monday.
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>>84365115
It doesn't at all explain why Ben turned to the dark side. You can assume that learning about Vader was part of it, but it's not definitive in the least.
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>>84365207
Well it sort of shows the thing that will probably be the sole factor that leads Ben to the dark side in the end. The Vader plot in Bloodline is to Ben what Padme's love was to Anakin.
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>>84362129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMBpwpDJ0gk
Nah dude, sounds like Pegg
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>>84365204
Oh, nice. Thanks for the info.
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>>84365291
Yeah. From this point on, new episode will debut every Monday. Possibly morning.
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>>84364779
That's a really complete list, thanks anon
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>>84365571
No problem. Tell me if you find any problems and I'll try and fix them.
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>>84365240
I highly doubt that was even close to being the all encompassing thing or the sole factor in any way. Seems more like a "straw that broke the camel's back" thing, considering it's hinted that Snoke has been hanging around Ben since childhood.
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>>84359294
Jesus Christ, all that shows me is that Williams should really have had more time to score TFA.
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>>84361052
Are you fucking kidding me? Lucas assembled the entire production team. Lucas was hands-on for the casting. Lucas created ILM in the process of making Star Wars. Lucas worked so hard on Star Wars he nearly made himself ill.

OF COURSE he created Star Wars.
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>>84362250
>He also treats his actors like slaves that have to obey his every command perfectly.
Lucas is actually pretty hands-off with the actors.
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>>84351953

I LOVE THE U WING
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>literally no discussion of the new comics released this week

i thought they were okay.
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>>84367392
Both are at slow points. Han's still warming up its story, Poe just ended on "arc" I guess and is starting a new phase. There isn't really much to discuss.
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>>84367560
Grakkus no longer being a Hutt Adonis is a galactic tragedy
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>>84364779
Good job, Anon.
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>>84364779
Should add the unfinished episodes
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>>84360743
What makes me disappointed is that Yen is going to be faster than anyone we've fucking seen in the movies except for maybe Maul, and he's not even Force sensitive. It would have been so great if he was a Matukai.
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>>84362730
The practical effects weren't wowing, but the sets at least carried a welcome sense of physicality that the prequels frequently lacked.

The movie was still a mess, but they did get that part right.
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>>84363866
Y-you can't hurt me...anymore
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>>84359475
As long as we never see Tatooine again, I'll be happy. The prequels just could not get the fuck away from that place and it detracted greatly from the rest of the galaxy in doing so. That they couldn't even make Anakin from someplace not Tatooine was lazy as fuck.
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>>84356860
>1000 years old and you still can't dress to impress, Vitiate? Shameful.
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>>84363977
>Okay, okay. I was wrong. Stop sperging out
Says the retard.
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>>84362730
But the CGI in TFA looked good you fucking retard.
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>>84369268
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utQ9zofncsg
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>>84369268
The ships looked great. Organic stuff, not so much. Even Maz and Snoke looked just okay. They would've been amazing in 2010, but we've already seen CG characters that look much more convincing.

The rathtars would've been okay looking in 2000. In 2015, they look downright embarrassing.
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>>84359808
>Sagely and kind Plo
>A pedophile

Not sure I dig it famalam.
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>>84369364
>>84369390
I think with the rathtars, they thought "well, they're going to be moving a lot and the audience won't really get a good look at them, we're not going to waste time making them look polished and realistic."

Apparently it somewhat worked because a lot of people didn't notice, though some of us saw it right off the bat.
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>>84358689
>No way to get off

Pls. There is a giant ass sith temple on that planet with god knows how many priceless artifacts, nevermind that the temple itself is a functional superweapon (even without the key). That place is going to be swarming with imperial researchers in no tiem given how much Sheev is looking for new toys. Also there are the inquisitor ties there, she can fix them up if she wants too, she was a rather capable mechanic in TCW
Also
>Implying the only remaining properly trained duelist during the ST would die to a punk ass bitchboi

Also if she was part of Lukes jedi order she would have slapped some sense into the edgelord the moment he started going off. So if (big if) she's still alive shes propably chilling somewhere away from all this shit with her grandchildren
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>ywn sit in a comfy shelter and eat bugs with Anakin and Obi-wan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA9ksYF1ZRs
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I always thought it was weird starship troopers of all things had had impressive cgi but tons of movies later on doesn't. This shit was made in 1997 and I still think it looks good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywKJSglL24
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>>84369268
Resorting to throwing insults won't make you right, anon.
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Why haven't we attempted meme magic yet? I vote we use it to bring Revan back into canon.

Failing that, give "Sequel Trilogy Luke" "EU Luke's" powers and abilities.

Failing that, Make Finn a Jedi
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>>84369594
Well we dont know Lukes powers yet, they will propably mess Revan up and if not no way they will satisfy all fans, and Finn is better as a guy in over his head who makes it despite not being a normal-ish dude
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>>84369268
It's not impressive to have better CGI ten years later

And I think RotS composited the CGI better overall anyway

The ship CGI in TFA looks really weird
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>>84368345
I wonder about him talking about how age has taken it's toll. Hutts aren't as long lived in the new canon? Or Grakkus was older than he looked? Or the author was just mistaken since they knew decades had passed since we saw him last but didn't know how old Hutts live?

Could have just talked about how prison life wasn't suiting him. Though I am saddened he doesn't have one of those freakilshly ripped prison bodes as he hits the gym to pass the time.
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>>84370778
So unrealistic. Obi-Wan's voice didn't change even if his balls got squished.
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>>84353763
Kathleen Kennedy. Same with Jyn Erso maybe.
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>>84370778
BRAVO LUCAS
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>>84370778
Realer than real life
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>>84370778
He said overall, anon. Stop nitpicking 2 second CGI shots.
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>>84371545
Not the same guy, but the prequels have aged like milk.
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>>84371623
tfa is still the worst sw movie
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>>84371623
Nah, the CG isn't offensively bad. Some spots sure. But overall it holds up.
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>>84370778
>>84371623
Alien Isolation looks better than this.
I still love Episode III
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>>84371647
That's not relevant here anon.
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>>84371669
It really doesn't. The CG is out dated and even when the movies were out, the CG looked like shit because it was poorly used.
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>>84371623
But Greivous is one of the best looking CGI creations of all time.

I was going to post a webm of Live-Action Greivous, but I can't find it, so have this instead.

Honestly a lot of the CGI in the Prequels was just fine. At least, in the 2011 versions which I last watched, they were perfectly fine and outright impressive at times.

Sure there's going to be some dated shots. But there is dated effects in the OT, and sadly TFA too already.

I honestly don't care. I have never been pulled out of the movie by any effect in any of the 7 movies.
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>>84367392
I'm really enjoying the Han Solo comic. There is a great enjoyment with seeing how coherent the canon has become. Everything is fitting but It concerns me within the next 10 years, things will be fucked up like the EU.

Not really feeling poe. The ST era bores me to tears because it's nothing new. Seeing Graakus was a treat though too bad he's turned into a fat sack of shit.
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>>84372001
ST?
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>>84371623
Of course, everything ages badly. Even 2010 technology looks dated. Nothing lasts forever, I'm amazed people think like this. The Thing, Jurassic Park, Stargate, Jaws, Toy story, The Arrival, Lord of the Rings all are dated to hell.

It's a stupid complaint.
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>>84372025
Sequel trilogy
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>>84371623
Not really. Most of the CGI holds up rather well.
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>>84372055
>The Thing, Lord of the Rings all are dated to hell.
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>>84370778
Can we talk about the state of Obi's now powdered pelvis?
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>>84372055
>The Thing
>dated to hell
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>>84372328
>>84372394
Opinions, anons.

Not all of them are right. Not all of them make sense. Most of them even stink, but people still have them
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>>84372055
>The Thing, Jurassic Park, Lord of the Rings
>dated
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>Hux's first name is Armitage
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>>84372477
>mysterious benefactor is Brendol
Thrawn-wanting fanboys btfo
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>>84372477
>Armitage Hux
ywn have such a good name
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>>84372477
Any more of these tidbits?
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>>84372055
Wow, prequelfags really are delusional. Sorry, but even Terminator 2 looks much better than the prequels and that movie is like 25 years old. Not even talking about movies like Jurassic Park and Lotr that still hold up perfectly.
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>>84372328
>>84372394
>>84372442
Please take off your nostalgia goggles.

Are you really suggesting the puppets and animtronics in the Thing look good in 2016? It's a great movie let's not pretend the dogs don't look like obvious animatronic.

As for Jurassic Park, yes, it's dated. Most of the CGI is stiff and non fluid. Up close they lack real details. The Raptors suffer from the same special effects dating as the Brachosaur. What saves the T-Rex is the night scenes. You can directly compare the Raptors from JW and JP and see the real advances in CGI. The JW are incredibly most realistic and fluid.

As for Lord of the Rings, let's not kid ourselves, the Wargs, eagles, orcs ents and even Gollum look dated. Impressive 10 years ago but now not so much. compare avatar to gollum's CGI.

>>84372669
>matte paintings
>rubber masks
>poor compositing
>stop motion
>better than modern CGI
Stop.
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>>84372762
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>>84372776
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>>84372792
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>>84372807
Impressive years ago but modern CGI is superior. It'll only get better from here.
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>>84372762
That's just like, your opinion man. Advances in CGI don't invalidate the technology and special effects before.

Other people like it and think it looks fine. It's too bad if you aren't.
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>>84372762
>Please take off your nostalgia goggles
Nigger please. You people keep saying nostalgia like it means anything. The Thing looks ten times better than TFA and most modern movies.
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>>84372834
>Advances in CGI don't invalidate the technology and special effects before.
That's not the point and what is being argued. What's being argued is effects and technology become dated. However, fans get awfully nostalgic and pretend effects from 30 years ago are superior to modern technology. That's just silly.
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>>84372922
Using the term dated is literally trying to invalidate older stuff. And I do think there is plenty of examples of older stuff that looks better than modern stuff.

Just cause CGI has improved doesn't mean it looks better, especially since that's an opinion. Which is why we're disagreeing with you.

I think The Thing looks better than half of the modern CGIfests.
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>>84371623
Their effects are still impressive after all these years and still hold up actually. The CGI here was among the best when they were released just like LotR. It's still better than TFA's mixture of old and new effects which looked out of place.

Then again, I don't know why people try to compare effects when none of them are realistic to begin and it doesn't stop you from watching cartoons.
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>>84372880
>The Thing looks ten times better than TFA and most modern movies.
For you.
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>>84372982
No, not really. The Thing ranks as one of the best horror movies ever made. Ten years from now TFA will be forgotten.
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>>84372762
Yeah the Thing is animatronic and has that look but the issue is whether it's effective and holds up, I think it does.
Besides no special effect looks truly looks real even at the time of release, cg ages the worst of all because of the constant advances in computers, even new stuff looks off and weightless.
The issue is not how real it looks but if it's effective.
This one here is one of the better effects I don't even think modern cg could do it better.
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>>84372960
>Using the term dated is literally trying to invalidate older stuff.
It has many terms for many different usages but in the context of this conversation, it's argued that we've come a long way from rubber masks and stop motion animation. The effects from those old movies aren't invalidated or irrelevant they just dont look as good as they use to compared to modern technology. The Thing remake's technology has a fluidity and realistic approach. Fans got upset because they weren't using practical effects like they grew up with. But technology isn't to blame for that movie being super successful.

>The Thing ranks as one of the best horror movies ever made
Funny because at the time of it's release it was absolutely loathed. Much like ESB.
>Ten years from now TFA will be forgotten.
I believe this. Especially if the next films do something new and spectacular.
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>>84372960
>I think The Thing looks better than half of the modern CGIfests.
Funny thing is people fail to spot modern CGI. It's used in so many films to fix minor mistakes, add cars and planes you never notice it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL6hp8BKB24
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>>84373225
But people do notice, he even mentions that in the video.
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>contribute to discussion yesterday by giving my own opinion/thoughts on TFA's lightsaber fight and mention how they used different lightsaber sticks compared to the OT and PT
>come back next day and the thread turned into a shitfest with tiring CGI vs practical effects discussions leading back to my original post
What have I done.
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>>84372601
Jabba's rancor is called Pateesa. Screw what anyone says about Wendig I will always love him for this. Also sadly Yularen is confirmed to have died at on the first death star.
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>>84369258
>I'm a cunt.
Okay, Prequel baby troll. We get it, your penis is small, and you get off praising Lucas for the Prequels.

Doesn't change the fact that Lucas is a shit-tier director, now, and hasn't made a good movie since the ROTJ. Didn't he say that "a special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing"? That "special effects are just tools" to tell stories with? What changed? Why did he fill the Prequels full of green-screen, instead of using actual props and sets?

I'll tell you why: he got fucking lazy, and no one called him on it.
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>>84373403
You did this. You should be careful with your power.
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>>84373518
(You)
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>>84373518
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>>84373518
I'm not the one that didn't even know what a director does for a living. Which is ironic since you're imitating fatty who also doesn't know anything about film-making.
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>>84373534
I only made a comment about how they probably only used those light up lightsabers just to show off their "practical effects" with that set photo then that one guy replied with "NO NO, TFA CGI IS STILL BETTER THAN THE PREQUELS" and that's how this debate started.
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>>84373602
He knows the basics. Which is all anyone needs to rip the CGI bore fests called the Prequels apart. Also, It's hilarious that a CGI-loving retard who thinks "The Thing" looks bad, also wouldn't know a good script if it bit him in the ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfx5gbVw3q0

No, but, please, tell me how this is good acting. You know, since you are fount of human knowledge, and all.
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>>84373633
You accidentally brought out the unintentional bait for the crowd that argues incessantly about their personal tastes, even if you're making a different point all together.

I'm sorry, you scoundrel.
Bravo, Sheev
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Anyone got the pics of post-Citadel Echo?
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>>84373694
Everyone had already done that 10 years before him. I'm also not who you think I am, assburger retard.
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Next thread please don't post outdated information in header again.
>>84373403
>meta-posting
no one cares bro. you are not a special snowflake the conversation evolved past your faggy comments
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>>84373828
Sure they did, cupcake. He was the first one to do it right, though. And you're one to talk about "retards", as you like the Prequels, and can only respond with base insults instead of reasoned arguments. I really shouldn't expect more from someone so pretentious and hateful of people with Aspergers.
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>>84373893
Well in the land of the free, the next week hasn't started yet. But I'll set up a thread with the info just for you. Just Aftermath, right?
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>>84373919
Again, you've mistaken me for someone else. I don't like the prequels. And repeating "oh look the cgi is bad" for the prequels aren't reasoned arguments, it's been done to death a million times when you weren't here.
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>>84373936
Normal threads say "upcoming" or "next week releases" you idiot. They're not lazily copypasted
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>>84374005
Upcoming releases is literally the first link in every OP. Either I don't follow you, or I don't think we've ever done what you described when we make these threads.
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>>84373964
>I don't like the prequels.
Good! We agree on something!

>it's been done to death a million times
No reason that it can't be done a million and one times. It also wasn't the point. The writing, the acting, the editing, the production, they were all Lucas' responsibility. And he failed.
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>>84374053
>implying assholes include dated comic information so they can get their favorite waifu on the frontpage

got to hell shipper
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>>84374112
Now I'm completely lost, no clue what you're going on about. In any case, the OP will be updated, thread on standby.
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>>84374057
There was no point. If I follow the reply chain that you're Mr. Autismo and there was only incoherent ranting about nothing.
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