One of the differences i see the most in the way capes are portrayed in Manga compared to western comics is, the heroes themselves tend to operate more like public servants than vigilantes.
It tends to be government regulated, with associations, where heroes gotta take psych tests, physical test, and register their powers, which are put into categories. In One Punch Man heroes are actually ranked and their rank determines what threats they face.
Compare this to western cape fare where things like "hero registration" is portrayed as a bad thing. Hell Marvel had a whole event ( and movie) tied around Heroes not wanting to be regulated and literally had a "Civil War" break out among heroes over it.
X-Men for years have been fighting a "
Mutant Registration Act" which really in itself not really a bad thing when you think about it, not much different than calling for tougher Gun laws, it tends to go south in the comics when they start going full "Waffen SS" on mother fuckers with death camps and shit, but the idea itself isn't unreasonable.
>>84338052
Compare that to say My Hero Academia. Where all powers( quirks ) are registered and for the most part they don't really have a problem with it. I guess it's just a cultural thing.
>>84338052
yeah fuck off
>>84338052
So do you think it would be safer to love in one of these universes where super powers are regulated, and everythings not the fucking wild west with super powers, would it even matter?
>>84338142
>>84338100
>>84338052
I like OPM but even I'm getting sick of this shit.
>>84338052
>>84338100
>>84338142
I like OPM, but Saitama dick-riders are the new Goku fans. They completely miss the point of the series.
>>84338222
Yeah but they make nice art, also beating Thor isn't much of an accomplishment. He's a fucking jobber
>>84338142
>safer to love
It's never safe, anon. Somethings just never change.
>>84338052
>>84338100
ask any long time X-fan and they'll freely admit that X-men clash with mainline marvel.
Remember that time Genosha got genocided? Why the fuck didn't Thor show up to stop that shit and call in the rest of the avengers?
The obvious answer is that it's an X-men book. You have the Avengers showing up suddenly it's an Avengers book, but it creates logical issues when one writer does something like create yet another clumsy holocaust stand in for a minority born with superpowers.
Another thing you may not be noticing is that Japan is an extremely stratified society. Like to an absurd degree. In japan you'll be cramming for academic tests your entire life pretty much, from as young as 8 years old to entire higher tiers of education in the hopes of reaching your ideal Middle, then Highschool, and finally college.
Oh and you only get one shot at the entrance exam, fail and you're stuck with a lower tier school.
Occasionally you get iconoclasts who get to write their own ticket and that old structure is slowly changing but to this day their society remains very stratified with your school and reccomendations often counting far more than your own capaibilities.
nevermind that Mangaka aren't laboring under the watchful gaze of enormous companies that create bizarre, twisted narratives and draw characters lifetimes out LONG after their story is done with,
>>84338222
>>84338184
/a/ always whined about animeonly casualfags contaminating fanbases and making all discussion cancerous
OPM is when I finally experienced what they meant
It hurts
>>84338286
Yeah, over the years i started to understand why some feel xmen work better as their own universe. While i enjoy things like some mutants joining the Avengers and Logan and Cap in WWII, it always struck me as odd that they hate mutants for having powers but it's ok when it's Spidey or the Avengers.
>>84338052
The Hero Society isn't gov't funded or really regulated.
They operate mostly on donations and Chinners fortune.
Also look up the extra chapter where Saitama helps out the cops who are being humiliated by some corrupt hero association. The police aren't respected anymore in One Punch Man.
>>84338386
that's because most of the avengers have cool powers without affecting their physical appearance. And most of them were normal people who got "the chance". Also, and probably most important, Marvel citiziens are the most ungrateful, selfish, stupid sons of bitches you can have.
>>84338386
It's not even mutants being hated so much. God knows people don't need good reasons to hate eachother. It's the constant persecution mutants face.
Tell me please; what exactly does the government oversight committee for funding and researching enormous genocidal robots look like?
Why is it when some asshole builds a mutant concentration camp in like, bumfuck Arizona Captain America doesn't flip the fuck out and go "THIS IS UNAMERICAN AND IT STOPS RIGHT THE FUCK NOW?!"
the problem with Xmen and Mutants in 616 is they have a persecution field that warps reality so that they're always the underdogs, despite having superpowers, multibillion dollar funding, and at one point an entire corporation dedicated to building pro-mutant cells that'd lobby governments to make life easier on mutants.
>>84338478
>that's because most of the avengers have cool powers without affecting their physical appearance.
That's true of most of the X-men.
The ones that matter, especially.
Even Wolverine is handsome now.
>>84338052
>the heroes themselves tend to operate more like public servants than vigilantes.
Nope. Just because two recent manga adapted anime did so, doesn't make it the case. Japan has done just as much vigilante heroes as government heroes
>>84338503
I also don't think someone born with they ability to walk through walls or melt steel beams with his laser eyes is going to be scared of the local school bully. More likely they would use their newfound powers to go Columbine on the whole school if they were even a bit unstable
i want to fuck the frog girl
>>84338574
>>84338574
>Japan has done just as much vigilante heroes as government heroes
To be fair if we're talking Toku, the governments in those are just stupid/non-existent unless the plot centrally needs them.
>>84338582
that too, and honestly once you take away the persecution field you have the solution to the problem. Schools for super powered people.
Don't like the X-Brand? We've had Avengers run schools and government run superschools. Of course those books were cancelled.
honestly it's fucking embarassing that I have to go to japan to get my "superhero kids growing up and becoming superheroes" fix.
>>84338629
Who doesn't? I've wanted to fuck every "frog girl" i have seen in both anime and US stuff, including Attea, and Iruka. The fuck is it with Frog girls, why are they so fuckable?
It's less about loving bureaucracy and more about Japan absolutely fucking loving school-based settings.
High school is the best time of their lives or something. Pretty horrifying.
>>84338663
They had two really good ones. The Intimates by Image comics, and Sidekicks. Which was drawn by Takeshi Miyazawa ( Mary Jane Love Peter Parker)
That's not west compared with east, this is Marvel's take on hero registration vs One Punch Man's take. Marvel's one is about personal freedom vs security while OPM's take is about making super heroics beauracratic.
>>84338672
>>84338629
http://exhentai.org/tag/character:tsuyu+asui
>>84338745
But wouldn't the registration act make super heroics bureaucratic and most heroes not wanting to have to go through red tape to save lives?
>>84338694
It's because there's more freedom to write about things in that setting without making the protagonists too young or too old.
>>84338781
I don't mean the chilling brand, but more of the boring brand for humour.
"Sign paper 1567 to get permission to fight Darkseid etc etc."
>>84338781
I like Boku no Hero Academia's take on it personally. Super Heroes establish offices where they do stuff like fight powered criminals and deal with disasters. They have support types who make gadgets and engage in medical junk and general logistics, and they have managers that pitch them to companies that provide them with backing.
Though honestly I like how they solved the X-men issue. "Quirk" users were born into the world at some point and in greater and greater numbers. This caused Crises of various sorts. Natural selection favored for quirk users. So you get a populace that develops super powers, 70-90% of them just have stuff that's good for parlor tricks and honestly most just use their powers on the job. Forklifts? That's for people who can't find a Telekentic to haul their boxes for them.
Then you got the assholes who use their powers to steal and murder and so on. Police generally stick to normal crap and they leave the dangerous stuff to heroes who want to risk life and limb for fame and fortune.
>>84338653
I'm not talking just toku. And it doesn't matter, it's not like that hasn't been the case in American comics.
>>84338386
What I've heard is that people hate the mutants more because it's relatively common knowledge that mutants are the next step in human evolution. Their purpose is to eventually replace homo sapiens with homo superior.
>>84338052
>X-Men for years have been fighting a "
>Mutant Registration Act" which really in itself not really a bad thing when you think about it
Yeah, lets give every human supremacist group that can sneak into the Pentagon a nice big list of targets. Great idea, surely won't get anybody murdered.
And that's of course, assuming the US government won't use it to oppress the people they force to register. Which, given how Gyrich operates, is so fucking unlikely that it's laughable.
>>84338100
then Doomsday revives and is immune to Saitama's punches.
>>84338116
Underrated post.
>>84340574
>Implying Saitama wouldn't love that
Finally a challenge!
>>84340660
You probably posted it, samefag. But hey it could be the 100th thread complaining about :diversity" and "muh Tumblr". God forbid anyone have a discussion here.
>>84340701
I have the perfect opponent for him
>>84338916
but they didn't. They just made it so normal people accepted that they're just lame normal people and that they're in the lower evolutionary ladder. They didn't solve the X-Men issue they just ignored it.
>>84338052
Definitely a cultural thing. I mean have you seen Japan?
>>84338052
Batman tricks Saitama using a boom tube, sends him to the middle of nowhere in outter space, Saitama dies.
That simple.
>>84338052
>>84338100
>>84338142
Oh look, a spic obsessed with anime and company wars, how new and original! Not getting that Saitama is a joke character like Doraemon.
this coming from a spic
>>84341215
Just a quick question, Sir. Are you mentally retarded? Honest question
>>84338052
Older "superhero" manga, anime, and other Japanese media did not have any of that stuff. Think Dragon Ball Z, Kamen Rider, or anything similar. They were a bunch of unusally-teenage kids who transformed or otherwise had super powers, kept them hidden, and either attended school while fighting on the side or as a wandering stranger type. There were some significant differences between western and eastern superheroes - the western variety wore costumes and hid their identity, while the eastern variety just ran around at night and avoided being scene - but the two were more similar than you may think.
What you are describing is a much, much more recent variety of manga. Tiger & Bunny was probably the first big name in the genre, and you could probably call it a "registered superhero" genre. It's less a Japanese superhero and more a Japanese take on American superheroes; Japan is taking the setting that the typical American superhero comic portrays, and adding some sensibilities to the situation. Rather than having corrupt cops and constant crime and public bank heists in broad daylight, the cops are pretty much standard cops you see, the crime is pretty much the standard crime, and super powered people who could destroy buildings but want to help are doing so in the same way that people in the real world go out and help: they're volunteering or signing up for work to do so.
In short: it's a much more recent theme than you give it credit for.
>>84341215
im a spic and i can confirm this shit
>>84338052
>>84342486
>It's more recent than you think
This. Tiger and Bunny/My Hero Academia/One Punch Man reflect a very Japanese superhero scene. The heroes compete among themselves for ranks and government/corporate support like high school students compete for scholarships.
Japan is a very competitive culture.
You can read it as the heroes from this world being more "civilized" and less "wild west" but you can also read it as them being a bunch of government/corporate shills that treat superheroing more like an extreme sport or entertainment thing (superheros as spectacle is a feature in a lot of these Japanese Nu-cape mangas. The athletic competitions in My Hero Academia are like prime time events)
There are also two things you got to remember about Nu-cape manga.
1. They're comparatively light-hearted and less cynical and "serious" than their western counterparts.
2. The bad guys they fight aren't as extreme as the ones western heroes fight.
You try registering super heroes in Marvel or DC you suddenly put living WMDs at beck and call of fallible politicians. This reflects how Japanese are less likely to criticize their government compared to Westerners. They don't want to believe the people they elect are capable of doing bad shit.
You try registering superhumans in Marvel or DC you also give the bad guys an exploitable databank. Hope you like edge lord bad guys finding out who you are and sending Joker/Dr. Light/Major Force to fridge your loved ones.
Nu-Cape heroes don't deal with absolute sickos. At worse you get Punisher-esche bad guys that will kill you for being a dick or being a super failure. But you don't get guys that will kill and rape your family.
This is where the hype train ends. Hard.
So where does Tokyo ESP fit into all this?
>>84341173
boom tube what now?
OPM is shit
Make way for the good ONE webcomic.
>>84338582
that was my problem with infamous games as well, have powers yet mobs get them and kill them in fear of getting killed.
>>84338052
I'mplying Professor X wouldn't fuck Saitama's shit up.
>>84338672
The power ofmemes.
>>84338052
The main problem with cape registration are holocaust (which is always a forced plot device), and conscription (which makes sense).
The reason the government shouldn't control all superhumans is because they can use the loyal ones to force the rest to serve them and have a big super-military.
Then you get a big superhero weapons race, with every country building up stores of superhumans.
Everything would go to shit pretty fast.
>>84344137
>>84338052
Saitama dies.
>>84344137
the whole point of Saitama is that he is to NEVER lose
he's a parody of the overpowered superhero, but has the self awareness to make it cool
>>84338310
Isn't the point of OPM that he beats anyone, that's the joke.
The answer is always he wins, why do people ask?
>>84338694
its because in Japan when you're an adult you actually are expected to act like one
any issues between characters of adults would be settled as easily as a conversation
teenagers however are all full of angst and hormones, their problems are dealt with drama
>>84338052
OPM is a deconstruction of the Superhero genre
if you want to actually use real examples of east vs west heroes use Boku no Hero, Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, etc
>getting mad at art depicting the strongest hero ever as....the strongest hero ever
What the fuck? Is this a meme?
the way you put it seems like a distinction between public and private superheroing. i'd never thought of the difference in that sense before, so thanks for providing me with a new lens to view the difference.
neato. cool stuff.
>I thought superheroes were just supposed to help people for free?
>Heh, yeah....AMATEUR superheroes.
>>84344218
It's frustrating when people think that the likes of superman or the hulk can have a serious fight with OPM, they don't get that he's a parody character and shouldn't be taken seriously
>>84338184
Look at his face, even he doesn't want to be doing this anymore.
>>84338052
>nani smash ka?
I pretty sure that's not right
>>84338052
Sure, if you compare them to the two superhero manga you know, who happen to have this in common, you'll find a pattern.
Just read more and you'll see how wrong you are.
>>84344121
It was stupid in Civil War too. Human Torch getting his shit pushed in outside of a club. I mean i know he didn't want to use his powers against civvies but come on
>>84338222
>Saitama easily KO ing some powerful mother fucker
Pretty much the same joke as the manga and anime only replaced with western heroes/villains
>>84338222
except its the joke
he is to never lose
he's more powerful than sports master
>>84344492
The funny part is them being all "it's supposed to be a joke , guys. you don't ged it!" while getting mad at the very same joke with western characters.
>>84344202
I think that if Saitama can still get depressed or distressed about something, that means that Xavier can uses his mental powers against him.
Because feeling all that shit is suffering, so he can actually feel pain, if people get depressed enough their brain can get permanent damage so you have to take meds so you won't kill yourself
>>84345134
>I think that if Saitama can still get depressed or distressed about something, that means that Xavier can uses his mental powers against him.
But then Saitama would just punch him.
>>84345134
yeah but then he'd punch him
>>84338100
>>84338916
Its villains are horrifically shallow though. Like paper thin.
>>84345272
None of them have really been explored in detail, on the other hand.
>>84338503
The X-men make it really easy to hate them compared to other teams.
The Fantastic Four, at least in the Stan and Jack comics, helped out government think tanks, hung out with normal people (Yancy Street Gang, Wyatt Wingfoot, Johnny's college friends, etc), and were canonically the first people to land on the Moon.
The X-men on the other hand are a paramilitary organization that trains child soldiers and teach a hard "us vs them" mentality. They also like hanging out with Magneto and White Queen who are mutant versions of dindus.
>>84338663
Ever read Johns' JSA? It's the perfect "kids training to be superheros" book. The old guard teach the new kids how to be heroes and have neighborhood BBQs and parades and birthday parties and fun comfy stuff like that.
>>84344646
What about Squirrel Girl?
>>84338052
The funny thing is that Weeaboos say OPM can beat any western character but they miss the point that this isn't done to make him look awesome, it's done as a joke. When it comes to Capes they're dead right but put him up against Droopy or Popeye and he's fucked
>>84345661
>teach a hard "us vs them" mentality
This is the exact opposite of what the X-Men do
>>84338916
>>84341123
There is a sort of disturbing undercurrent of genetic superiority that kind of gets glossed over in Academia. People are totally fine with this genetic one percenters who go to this school where the normies literally rank below them in Hufflepuff house.
Also, the school's bloodsport training makes the Danger Room look sane and rational. Magic healing kisses still means the kids are being put through intense physical and emotional pain as their classmates literally beat them into bloody pulps.
This is a world where prime time television is watching gene lottery kids maim each other to attract corporate sponsors. That's like something out of a William Gibson book.
>>84345565
They'll pull the curtain at the last second to show REASONS like in every shonen manga.
>>84345745
someone beat you to it >>84341008
>>84344202
>He NEVER loses
To be fair that was Silver Age Superman. Unless you had magic, red solar energy, or kryptonite he was invulnerable. Totally invulnerable.
I mean Dr. Light's faster than light light rays (yes really) that froze even the Flash and teleported the league to other universes didn't effect him.
Amazo couldn't copy his powers (something people forget when they write Amazo) because he was too super.
Starro's molecular dissentigrator rays did nothing to him.
Silver Age Superman was the OPM of defense.
>>84345779
Yeah, they're great at that whole integration thing with their mutant only schools and their "woah is us we must protect the silly humans who are like children and do not understand" victim complex.
They're SJWs who don't pay taxes on the secret jet they keep while the F4 (at least in the Lee/Kirby run) shared their secrets with the world.
>>84345874
>I've never read X-Men comics before but I skimmed the article on wikipedia
Okay dude
>>84338916
Is that monster-lookin' guy in the bottom panel important to the story at all?
>>84345745
He can still win but he's not going to kill a human like Popeye or a fucking dog people keep forgetting he doesn't want to do that
I don't think professor X could survive a trip to Saitama's head with his sanity intact.
Saitama's brain is so extra-mundane that Xavier would probably lose himself in it and then there would be one of those annoying memory loss arcs where they find Xavier working a day job in some deadbeat town and his name has always been Jim.
>>84344968
What if one-punching was a sport?
>>84345921
Nah, one of the less shown students. He can command animals.
Japanese have historically sucked the cock of authority while Americans historically have not.
ITT hasty generalizations of two cultures by people who know dick about either
>>84345745
Does japs do this too? They argue that who wins?
>>84340332
Except it's unlikely to occur by killing you, it's by fucking your sons so that they pop out more of them. YOU BECOME THEM.
>>84338286
> that create bizarre, twisted narratives and draw characters lifetimes out LONG after their story is done with,
I don't feel that. Most heroes don't have an endgoal at least to me.
>>84344218
>>84344202
No people tend to forget the point was trying to make that he makes in all his works.
Power doesn't guarantee you anything other than being powerful. Saitama isn't some meta commentary on being unbeatable he's a commentary about how being basically all-powerful doesn't make you happy.
Saitama getting his ass-kicked would be less detrimental to his character than him suddenly growing his hair back, rediscovering his sex drive, getting friends and money by realizing "oh wait I just needed to get even stronger"
>>84346577
Yeah i know but do they have same problem with one punch man that people seem not to get idea of saitama starts comparing to it with goku or something.
>>84338286
>ask any long time X-fan and they'll freely admit that X-men clash with mainline marvel.
It's not just an X-men thing.
I've read the first chapters of Justice League Dark a few years ago and there're world scale catastrophy happening and no Superman or Green Lantern shows up. Even if it's magic and Superman can't do a thing about it, it's bizarre.
>>84338745
There are others manga where superheroes are associated with the government and there's a lot of superheroes in dc who aren't link to any government sanctioned association.
OP talks about an interesting cultural difference in superheroes' representation and everybody start a shitty /a/ vs /co/ battle.
It's only that way because comics are repellent to change. The idea that any of the characters will still have secret identities in the current world with its ubiquitous technology is just plain stupid.
All manga did was get with the times.
>>84341123
I don't read My hero Academia but maybe they didn't make it sound like people with power were an other species like X-men.
That's a major problem in mutant's representation, they are not homo sapiens with powers. So instead of saying the x gene (which is a pretty stupid idea nowadays, by the way) is an odd thing like birth defect or mutants are the next step in homo sapiens evolution, Marvel makes it sound like mutants are a sign that homo sapiens is a species on the verge of extinction, to be replaced by homo superior (the name in itself is problematic). Of course, it's a source of conflict.
>>84346280
I think that's the issue. It might be good for corporations, but it's bad for any one who wants a story.
That's why I really like genuine legacy heroes. Not "Bruce Wayne isn't Batman anym- Oh wait, he is again." But rather that they pass on the mantle to another hero to deal with the genuine issues of their own time.
Look at Phantom 2140. It makes sense to pass on the mantle to another hero who can now wear it with an environmental message, considering what current human actions are doing to the world.
People keep trying to make certain heroes stand for nebulous themes that they were never designed to, so it comes across as strange. And that's probably why Batman Beyond would speak to a modern audience a lot more.
Our villains aren't mob bosses or barons, they're corporations and media moguls.
There's a reason that Shinra was just a company and not a empire (in the traditional sense).
>>84343497
>This reflects how Japanese are less likely to criticize their government compared to Westerners. They don't want to believe the people they elect are capable of doing bad shit.
I think Japanese are not that interested in politics to begin with. They got the same party in power for more than 50 years... The whole political system is based on clientelism.
You don't see a lot of political plot in manga and when there is, it's either politicians associating themselve with organised crime, incompetent politicians or competent but crafty.
>>84342486
But Dragon Ball and others manga like it are not superhero manga. You don't see San Goku patroling to stop criminal in the act. Gohan does it a bit but it's more a filler story between big events than a major storyline. Most of the time they go fight bad guys who want to control the earth. They don't substitute themselve to the police like your average American superhero does.
Nowadays you see manga with superheroes but its a recent tendency. It's probably a result of all the successful Marvel and Batman movies we got those last 10 years.
>>84338052
I hate One Meme Man and wish he was neve made
>>84345134
He would just punch the depression away
>>84347523
don't hate the player hate the game.
The larger issue is that American comics always have to wrap their narrative in a superhero coating, or at least deal with superheroes being present.
>>84347562
They made a OPM game?!
>>84347574
are you stupid?
>OP makes a supposition
>quotes a sample size of four
D- apply yourself
>>84338052
That's because most Japanese Manga is literally propaganda. They portray the government as good because MUH GLORIOUS NIPPON CUNTRY! LE GOVERNMENT IS NEVAR WRONG! WW2 WUS A LIE!
When in reality all governments and militaries are dicks and would abuse the fuck out of Superhumans for horrible stuff.
Hell, in comic book universes, you had people like Norman Osborn and Lex Luthor in high powerful postitions. And SHOCKING: they abused their political powers. Even people like Waller and Mara Hill who are less evil are still giant dicks.
>>84347591
My thoughts exactly.
>>84347611
>in comic book universes, you had people like Norman Osborn and Lex Luthor in high powerful postitions
And they get away with it, and have done for decades.
And don't you dare say "that's the point!" because you know damn well that it isn't.
>>84338052
i would say proportions are a big part as well. in manga they dont look like they take steroids most of the time. this goes past one punch man and into manga in genral. they like the normal slender person doing super human stuff
>>84347625
King Pin is a saint !
Sometimes I wonder how the hell the American comic system is still running.
How the fuck aren't you bored yet?
The entire industry is just the ">It's a [blank} episode" meme.
>>84347753
>all american comics are capes
>>84347783
Oh yeah, I forgot about Princeless and other comics like that.
>>84347783
The overwhelmingly huge majority of them are. So many in fact that it's barely even a point talking about anything else, other than to highlight how tiny the percentage is.
>>84347611
Only latest like that i can think of is GATE but it didnt bother me at all really.
>>84347795
>>84344384
Artist????
>>84347499
>But Dragon Ball and others manga like it are not superhero manga.
That's kind of the problem, though. There aren't any superhero manga for the same reason there aren't any magical girl American comics: it's mostly a cultural genre. It's something local that just doesn't really come up. You'd need to specify exactly what you're looking for to find a Japanese equivalent. Are you looking for a character who does what superheroes do? Are you looking for something aimed at the same audience?
Note that, even in American comics, your definition isn't very good. The X-Men never go out and patrol streets to stop criminals.
And anyways, it doesn't really change my point. The things you would call a "typical superhero comic" in the manga world are fairly recent. There is no long-standing history of superpowered individuals signing up for the government and being part of an organization, because those manga didn't make an appearance until fairly recently, within the last 10 years or so. Past that, you could probably find a few which might fit the "caped superhero" term, but not many, because they were just shonen/sentai/some other genre which just happened to fit your definition for superheroes as well.
>>84347625
>"that's the point!" because you know damn well that it isn't.
Actually usually that is the point, there's even comments made about how government cooperation or silence is bought off in Marvel, like how Canada turns the other way to allow mutants and super powered people to be re-engineered into weapons and soldiers for use or sale.
Also that other anon is being vague and selective. I can recall works like Death Note and Akumetsu that touch on the cowardice, corruption and ignorance of cops, courts and officials in Japan. Death Note of course went on to focus on America as is to be expected but it also had it so in the end the American Agents and Near managed to catch Light where the Japanese Cops failed and even inadvertently assisted Kira so it's not exactly one sided.
>>84348327
>Actually usually that is the point
Nah. Pretty sure the point is that they're major characters and they can't be removed from the narrative because they're a draw.
>>84345696
squirrel girl is parody of battles that happen off panel
>>84338842
Duh.
Toon Physics > Everything
It is not a cultural thing, but more of a recent trend of introducing bureaucracy in superheroics. The web serial Worm has the superheroes working in Protectorates and the PRT, the Wearing the Cape novel series also have professional superheroism.
It is the introduction of more realism into a superhero setting, because if superpowers exist in real life, organised heroics and professional superheroes are bound to be the norm in first-world countries for superhumans wanting to use their power to save lives rather than make money. Superhuman vigilantes, like real life ones, will only be common in unstable areas like Mexico/Africa/Middle East.
>>84348501
Yeah but writers are aware of that and can take advantage of that to make the point that powerful people get away with fucked up shit
>>84347795
>>84347753
I still have to find a comic on any other part of the world, that is as ambitious, with such amazing world building across all of its spin offs, full of lovable characters dealing with the horror, the tragedy and the victory as the Mignolaverse as a hole.
So complain about anything, but I want you to show me something better - on the same kind of genres - than the Mignolaverse made by europeans or nips.
>>84345813
>exposition through flashback
My favourite.
>>84341173
That's Jane Krakowski? Shit, I didn't even know she was in that movie. Always loved that milf.
>>84344946
Well, sure, but does he gruesomely kill everyone he KOs?
I could see these being funny but the edgy violence turns them into weeaboo fanfiction
>>84345174
>>84345233
Implying Proffesor X doesn't control his mind from far away to make him punch himself.
>>84338629Ochako is better though
>>84347795
still triggered, shes triggered over fair, and doesn't even know fair means golden, not white.
>>84338052
>In One Punch Man heroes are actually ranked and their rank determines what threats they face.
And none of it matters in the slightest because the only one who can ever do anything to the badguy of the week is Saitama, who kills them instantly.
The whole series is that episode of DBZ when Recoome is wrecking everyone, then Goku shows up and one-shots him.
I know it's supposed to be a joke, but the fact is, it's a lame joke.
>>84345781
Uh, the classes in MHA aren't ranked.
Also, most of the people on the non-hero course also have powers. They either applied simply to go to school there or they didn't have the skills to make it as heroes.
In MHA like 95% of all people have superpowers.
>>84345913
>i pick and choose what's canon at my leisure
some honorary cape comics.
>>84352430
>>84352489
korean x-men.
>>84352520
>>84341123
due to crises that occuree before the story takes place 90% of the populace has superpowers. 'normal' people as we understand it arent an endangered species.
they're a genetic throwback.
quirk users survived the coming storm easier and bred out their competition.
It's because Spider-Man and X-Men are so popular. Both have bad PR in universe but irl are super popular. That stuff has been taken and applied to other heroes.
It's changed some recently. but used to be different Avengers usually had a government liaison. The FF are like eccentric rich people like Elon Musk. Tony Stark is Steve Jobs. Superman's always helping out with officials. Batman was like deputized. Wonder Woman's a damn diplomat. Being the Flash was Wally's job.
also of course watchmen and dkr
>>84351230
Yeah it seems like you do.
>>84338286
>Remember that time Genosha got genocided? >Why the fuck didn't Thor show to stop that shit and call in the rest of the Avengers?
Because the Avengers were currently dealing with Kang quite successfully launching a campaign for world domination and nuking DC. Which of course the X-Men didn't do dick to prevent.
It's more of a US thing
>>84338052
OPM is shit and a meme character. I like manga but japs got nothing on the west when it comes to the capes.
>>84338142
>>84338100
>>84338052
>OPM
>Killing good guys
OPM's powerset relies on him entirely wanting to be a hero.
If he kills a hero, he's no longer a hero and no longer OPM
>>84338582
cyclops' eye blasts are concussive, like a punch, not hot, like a flame
>>84347753
How are manga fans not tired of high school kids? It's the same thing. You like what you like.
>>84338503
Captain america hates mutants that aren't house muggas like wanda
>>84338052
>the heroes themselves tend to operate more like public servants than vigilantes
Of course they do, Japan hates nonconformists.
>>84353213
>How are manga fans not tired of high school kids?
may count for anime, most high shool manga are mediocre LN/VN adaptions that barely last a few volumes.
>>84338100
Watch Concrete Revolutio and say that again.
Government regulation is 50% of the plot, the other 50% is the search for objective justice if it even exists.Best anime of the fucking decade.
>>84352895
But Fate series is japans capeshit.
>>84338052
The reason why those are viewed as a bad thing in western comics is because things like registrations and government control are the antithesis of freedom and liberty. We view them as bad things because, historically speaking, they are. Hell, even in the comics they prove this to be true when those on the side of the registration end up being like nazis.
The Japanese don't mind it because they're used to being oppressed.
>>84353389
I mostly think its because Japs aren't as anti government as America.
>>84344492
To be fair. it's not just that they don't get Saitama. He'a also not a hero killer. He only kills hostile and malicious threats.
>>84353389
Oh please, the whole "vigilant with a suit" and "registration is BAAAAD" schtick is old and cliche.
I like MHA's take on a society being mostly "mutants" and heroes working together to keep the peace with a structured government.
It also makes way more sense than governments just being okie doke with a bunch of demi gods doing whatever.
>>84338052
Fuck off you authoritarian sack of shit.
>>84353389
last time we had widespread vigilantism in the USA was the old west.
murder, rape, and theft with the excuse 'they deserved it' were rampant.
registration of dangerous items is sensible.
sensible regulations are good. unless youd like to claim that stopping companies from putting lead in paint or releasing snake oil onto the open market are good things.
>>84349931
He'd just punch him though.
>>84345781
>There is a sort of disturbing undercurrent of genetic superiority that kind of gets glossed over in Academia. People are totally fine with this genetic one percenters who go to this school where the normies literally rank below them in Hufflepuff house.
What?
Everyone in Academia has powers, dude. Some of them have shitty powers, or powers that aren't good for fighting, but there's like 1% of people who literally don't have powers at all. Deku was a freak.
ITT villains that would rekt saitama
>>84352815
>>84338286
X-Men never get involve when the Avengers get trashed but cry when they get crashed.
That said the Avengers did get involve that one time Crystal and Pietro's daughter got kidnapped and taken to Genosha, SHIELD told them not to but the Avengers did anyway so there's that.
>>84353609
I think he means he doesn't like the idea that those born with the "good" super powers get to be heroes or something.
Also I think its implied back when Quirks were becoming the norm, a lot of people died and shit was not happy.
>>84353213
I think anime has more high school setting than manga really. Has someone ever asked japs that are they bored of high school settings?
>>84353640
i dunno in a universe where powers are a genetic lottery it only makes sense that some people would luck into 'good' powers.
add into that we see people who use their powers to support heroes or just do their jobs and it doesn't strike me as that bad a place to live
>>84353672
some are, but you might as well ask american comic readers if they're sick of capeshit. it dominates the market.
>>84353705
Actually people trying to fucking Eugenics their way into having the best super hero child is a big plot point for one character and its played as fucked up as it should be.
>>84353740
Todoroki was it? But yeah its not exactly viewed as common practice. and 90% of people have powers anyway so you'd have to be pretty twisted to do it.
>>84353545
The Wild West probably wasn't anything like how you think it was. Most people's perception of that place and time period are based on hollywoods interpretation, which is far detached from how things actually were.
The OP isn't talking about food and drug regulations. He's talking about governments seizing control of and registering people to be servants of the state, in many cases against their will. That is a bad thing.
>>84347795
...no it doesn't. "Fair" comes from the old German word for "beautiful". It just means "beautiful" or "pleasing". As in "a fair wind".
"Fair-skinned" is just the last holdover from the days of yore when white was expensive as hell to maintain because everything was covered in shit, so "fair" also came to mean clean and bright. Hence "fair-haired", which is gold, not white.
So maybe try reading a little yourself, angry young girl.
>>84353740
>>84353705
(Forgot to say more)
But yeah, MHA's setting is much more optimistic than OPM's setting which is extremely bleak.
That said, there's still some fucked up shit in MHA's setting that goes on.
>>84353769
The father who does it is basically the number 2 hero and people just put up with it. And no, fucker went through like 5 "wives" or something like that in order for him to get the kid with the RIGHT powers. Shit's fucked.
>>84344218
What happens if he fights Squirrel Girl?
>>84338184
>>84338222
The fact that you're getting booty blasted about power levels and your favs getting their asses kicked is what OPM is all about.
>>84353856
what exactly are they supposed to do to stop it? guy is loaded, has super powers, presumably the women consented if only from pressure via their families. yeah its morally fucked but so is most dynastic shit.
>>84347795
That's tumblr tier shit though, so it's not worth mentioning
>>84353837
i kinda take issue with regulating and registering people being bad when actual super powers are a thing. its bad for people like us. butvwhen 25% if your population are living weapons...
Why do autistic people have to shove one meme man on everything comic related? He was made to be a
joke on people who take power levels seriously that he can defeat everything in one punch. Now people are
taking it like if it's suppose to be serious. One punch man would have been an epic if it is a short series
but how can you even keep one punch line an on going series. I even heard people calling it "deep and sad"
like SU, I seen it too but saying one punch man 2deep4u is like taking a piss on "graveyard of butterflies" and "Up".
Anyone can make a hero with the power of one punch with backround and personality too. In fact why not
make a hero that defeats one meme man with just a blink of an eye or a fart. I even gained autism from the
one punch man fan base. Didn't mean to sound this autistic but damm one punch man is annoying.
>>84354294
Because OPM is way more than just "And then Saitama wins." There's a lot of character interaction and character growth too.
The whole "lol saitama wins" is just people's inherent nature to love power war battle bullshit.
>Hey anon ever see the newest Death Battle?
I usually want to just scream in people's ear going "FUUUUUUUUUUUCK OFF" when I hear someone ask me that.
>>84354293
Fair enough, but again, it's not simply about registering superhumans. It's about registering them and then placing them under the control of the state. I live in the U.S. and our government routinely sucks at their job. I wouldn't trust them with super heroes
>>84350132Kirishima is best girl though
>>84345832
SA Superman while powerful, he got smacked around like a bitch by bothe Darkseid and Mongul.
>>84341173
He kinda didx that to shaggyman
>>84346196
You know you people are always so hostile. Does this come from never getting laid?
>>84345781
>People are totally fine with this genetic one percenters who go to this school where the normies literally rank below them in Hufflepuff house.
IQ does that in real life and people accept it.
