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>>84318006
I'd fuck her, tbqh.
>>84318006
>we're gonna pour some delicious chocolate into the Iron Man armor
Awesome. This will surely sate my jungle fever for another fortnight.
>she'll be 15
What the fuck why!?
I actually like this. Marvel is such retarded drivel but this might be something fun as long as there is no social or political commentary.
>>84318006
Wait...Will this mean Bendis has a new toy to play with and he'll forget about Miles? Will Miles finally get killed off to end this annoying two Spider-Men shit? I'm okay with this if that's the case, never liked Stark anyway.
I wish this would be the straw that broke the camel's back
But of course it won't be.
>>84318045
>Americans
>>84318055
This board will be woorse than /tv/ in a month
>>84318084
No need to thank me, citizen
>>84318070
It's written by Benids anon.
>>84318076
Miles is getting off the avengers and added to a teen team up book.
>>84318084
>Wanting to fuck a fifteen year old.
Is this a thing in other countries that aren't Japan or third world?
>>84318006
>let's make new characters boyz?
>meeeh too lazy, let's introduce some diversity shall we... and appeal to pedos because our target audience aged but didn't grow up
>>84318161
I said there was no need to thank me!
>>84318139
Yes, but will Bendis pay less attention to him? Because once that happens his usefulness passes.
>>84318096
shhhh just wait for Dark Tower shitstorm
Say it with meNO
WHITE
HEROES
>>84318070
> No political commentary from Marvel, ever
Inb4 her character motivation being literally we wuz kings
>>84318153
Considering that's natural fuck age, yes.
>>84318153
Yes
Has there been an Iron Woman or whatever before?
>>84318185
Bendis managed to save Miles from the destruction of his universe, the inly thing stopping him from taking over ASM is Slott.
God help the spider fags.
>>84318244
Pepper Potts was Rescue
>>84318266
How'd that go?
What's important is that they've got a well developed and established personality to inherit the Iron Man mantle... oh, she got introduced literally two months ago. Huh.
>>84318244
Iron man has always been a Fe male
>>84318006
Does that mean friday dies?
>>84318006
Here i come DC.
>>84318277
I liked it, she was all about saving civilians and shit, Stark was getting BTFO at the time.
>>84318157
>appeal to pedos because our target audience aged but didn't grow up
Is this why I'll never here from these two again?
>iron man unlimited
can they do better?
>black captain america
>black/hispanic spiderman
>female thor
>muslim captain america
>white heterosexual male iron man
>quick replace tony with a black teen
What is this horseshit even? Marvel sucks.
>>84318249
>Bendis wants to kill Peter off in canon.
>Slott is preventing that from happening.
>The payment for Slott keeping Peter alive is for us to suffer through him writing for Peter.
Being a spider fag sucks.
>>84318006
>the new Iron Man isn't Japanese
for shame, then they could have called him Tetsujin
>>84318348
>muslim captain america
Nigga you high?
>>84318342
Better than anything that any current Marvel comic.
And i used to HATE Counter-Earth as a kid.
>>84318361
Slott still writes better than 80% of Marvel writers. Let this meme die already.
>>84318389
>Not calling herB-ko
>>84318405
anon meant ms marvel, presumably
>>84318405
No, just sleepy. Meant mrs marvel
>>84318384
marvel liked it enough to make it a cover art.
>>84318361
>Slott is still on Spider-Man
>the last good Spider-Man movie came out 12 years ago
>Spider-Man comics have been a wreck for a decade now
>>84318006
People actually read Ironman?
>>84318006
>It's a "Marvel tries another diversity gimmick" episode
I don't even pirate from this company anymore
>>84318420Crazy town banana pants
>>84318405
i think he means muslim captain britain.
Why don't they just fire Bendis already?
>>84318441
>>84318437
But she hadnt been ms. Marvel for a year or two.
>>84318475
Fucking read Joe Kelly's current Deadpool and Spider-Man, it's the best Peter has been since Superior ended.
>>84318153
It's a major thing in media aimed at teenagers, like new comic books.
>>84318482
Not anymore
>>84318437
>>84318441
Ah, gotcha. In fairness. Ms. Marvel is a legitimately good book. Reminds me of a modern day version of Lee era Spider-Man.
You can have the disney princess. Ill take the president of the united states.
>>84318459
>Marvel liked it.
Is this suppose to be a bragging right?
>>84318475
I hope Homecoming and Spider-Man PS4 can save him.
>>84318205
iinb4 she is drugged raped by Alex Wilder, who steals her armor.
Finally! Iron man can now be portrayed as he was always meant to be, as a proud woman of color!
>>84318187
What will happen to Dark Tower?
>>84318006
Marvel is the biggest joke in comics
>>84318545
I never read Ironman aside for Superior Ironman, I just never gave a fuck about Tony
>>84318289
That's a pretty ironclad pun
>>84318153
That is ripe fucking age anon. I would go two younger in fact.
>>84318286
Why does established matter? Characters can appear without having existed first you know.
>>84318244
Several times, yes. This is an utterly uninteresting and temporary character, who will probably be killed off for cheap drama in Avengers Arena 2 or something.
>>84318612
It must be harder for you, anon. At least people LIKE jokes.
>>84318475
>Two of the greatest Spider-Man cartoons (Spectacular and TAS) will never get a proper ending.
>Marvel has a hate boner for Peter.
>Made Peter Tony Stark.
>They keep making too many fucking Spider-Men.
>Resurrect characters that should've remained dead.
MAKE IT STOP! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcr5uIvUML4
>>84318006
Why.
>>84318006
>mfw the helmet fucks up that afro
Because it makes Disney money.
>>84318528
This is legit an amazing run. Especially this particular issue.
>>84318006
I'm surprised to see that the new season of Marvel Disk Wars decided to switch it up and make the heros Stands as opposed to pseudo-pokemon.
But hey at least we finally get to see >pic related animated.
>>84318689
Why not?
>>84318624
To be frank, I think it was a bit rusty.
>>84318658
that wasn't clever at all
>>84318718
Kelly even managed to make Miles an enjoyable character for the issue that featured him. And even this supposed SJW page here was fucking great in the issue that it comes from.
Spider-Man and Deadpool is saving Spider-Man.
>>84318742
I liked it. Very tungsten cheek.
>>84318740
because they already had a genius IQ black chick that has ties to iron man, why make an OC?
>>84318810
Why can there only be one black iron man character?
So whats going to be the straw that breaks the camels back /co/? When are SJWs going to inevitable turn on Marvel? Why the fuck cant they realize that this gimmick shit doesnt sell past the first book and good writing is what we desperately want!? You would think rebooting every 12 issues would set off some fucking alarm bells
>>84318831
brevity
>>84318006
>It's "let's replace a hero with a completely new character in attempt to trump up sales" gimmick day
It truly is the 90s all over again, isn't it? Aside from /pol/ sperging about the color of skin of Tony's replacement, how can anybody even muster any anger for this? It's entirely cliche at this point, sounds completely boring, and it's by Bendis of all people so you know it won't be any good.
>>84318831
How about one that isnt a shameless stunt that doesnt need to depend on taking the mantle/shtick of another character to justify their presence?
>>84318740
Because you shouldn't pander to a demographic that has no interest in comics and alienate ones that do.
>>84318788
Spider Man and Deadpool are both cancerous, but anything Joe Kelly writes is gold and deserves an insta-buy, so I have no choice.
>>84318831
Rhody's niece would have been the second black iron man, after Rhody himself. But she gets cucked out of relevance by Bendis's daughter insert.
>>84318882
Asian Spider-girl has been a lot of fun.
>>84318882
So if a black person adopts one of the big heroes' names then it's a shameless stunt? How is it different if they were white?
>>84318884
So you're saying white people won't like a character just because they're not white.
>>84318888
Witnessed
Misty Knight can't be Iron Man... she's already Iron Fist! It will be too confusing!
>Okay we need more profits
>Should we try to make a new, interesting character?
>Too risky, just take whoever's popular right now and turn them into a black teenage girl
>>84318055
Please let the entire comic just be this shit. If Bendis had any sort of spine he'd do it.
>>84318919
Go away waifufag. Her books are trash.
How big will that helmet have to be to contain all that hair? Or will that fro be visible from the outside, to represent the person inside is a proud African-American?
>>84318927
it wouldnt have been a shameless stunt if rhody did it again, because he has history with the whole thing, a random nobody who was invented two issues ago should not be iron man.
>>84318070
Her character is a blizzard of special snowflake proportions.
>Black
>Female
>Teen MIT graduate
>Made a functioning Iron Man suit in her dorm room
>Has Tony jizzing himself to have her be his replacement
Stand Name: Iron Man
User: Riri Williams
Power: Create discord on the internet, can summon /pol/ in any board of 4chan.
>>84318934
>Shiklah know's what Death's breath smells like.
>>84318927
You know goddamn well this is another stunt to bring in a quick buck. This isnt about creating a good character by the slightest. Her race is trivial. For fuck sake Marvel doesnt know what to do with even half of their recent additions!
>Oh no one is buying insert name anymore? Well fire up the OC furnace boys!
>>84318006
Need "nigga stole my powerarmor" meme
>>84318943
>Should we try to make a new, interesting character?
Legacy characters are the only ones that sell and you know it. Making a 100% brand-new character at this point is literally burning money.
That argument doesn't work anymore, the business realities don't allow it to.
>>84318997
But if they were white it wouldn't be as big a deal. Well I guess it still would be since she's a woman but if it were a white man.
>>84319001
It's the youth that rustles my jimmies. There's nothing wrong with making a hero in their 30s with plenty of relatable experience.
It would have been much better if Tony had actually become trapped in the body of a young black woman, and had to keep that cover for several months to stay hidden, yet still remained active as Iron Man out of necessity. Then you have all your topical crap, like race issues and even gender/body issues, and the original character experiencing new challenges, like faking being as dumb as a teenage girl amd resisting the urge to seduce the cheerleading squad into a big underage lesbian pile of joy. If it becomes popular, you pull an Ultimate Jessica Drew and keep both characters.
>>84318606
Idris Elba is playing Roland in the movies. On the one hand I'm happy that he's getting what could be a big recognizable leading role, on the other the producer is being a massive prick calling everyone who doesn't like the casting a racist.
>>84319048
>But if they were white it wouldn't be as big a deal
This is the only Whor image i have saved
>>84319052
But the kids nowdays hate grown up character, they're unrelatable!
>>84319068
>on the other the producer is being a massive prick calling everyone who doesn't like the casting a racist.
When 75% of the complaints are "FUCKING NIGGERS RUINING MY BOOKS" he has reasons to. Whatever valid arguments exist are being drowned out in a sea of rage.
>>84319028
When have they recently made a brand new, quality character that totally bombed when it shouldn't have? It's not that fucking hard, tie them into an issue of an already popular character and people will read the new one if they're interested.
>>84319048
Just stop. Having ANY genius 15 year old be given the iron man armor is fucking retarded. Why? Because the child prodigy thing has been done to death and being smart doesnt magically make you an effective pilot for the suit. Its poorly written crap. Her gender/race is merely brownie points and a method of defending the change
>>84319057
Remember the last time Tony became a girl?
>>84319048
It's not a big deal now. It's just a sign to abandon the Iron Man books for a while due to cheesy gimmicks overtaking story again.
>they change a character for another to fill his role
I Don't see any problem with that, sometime you need to acquire different tastes
>>84319028
If that's the case just fucking firebomb Marvel's office. Literally blow it up and salt the ashes. If Marvel can't create new, original characters any more, and is only good for preserving legacy characters, what good is it? Kill it. Fucking kill the company.
>>84319126
Actually, if it was Chase Stein, that would be balliin'.
>>84319079
Read the rest of the post. I typed it specifcally for you.
>>84319126
No the problem is not with her being a child prodigy. Nobody cares about that.
Whatever happened to tossing in minor character ideas, having them tidbits of a much larger story, and let fan reaction govern if theyre worth investing/developing? I know creating new characters is an uphill battle but damn shoving OC down our throats and justifying why theyre oh so much better than the heroes you know is fucking stupid
Help me fill out this bingo card, /co/
>>84319154
The image, the content, everything. the b8 in this post is so deep-seated.
>>84318969
still better than spiderman and alot of Marvel comic
>>84319126
Yeah, apart from the entire replace hero gimmick, the teen bit is the only real thing that is cringe worthy because it's so fucking special snowflake cliché. You know why Rhodey as Iron Man was great? Because he fucking was overwhelmed by having to take over and proved himself through fucking up and learning the job as he went on, not because he was a genius rivaling Tony that build spare Iron Man suits in his basement.
>>84319183
>but if it were a white man.
does anyone actually like Sam? he's kind of a fucking twat.
>>84319183
>If I pretend only racists hate this, this makes me feel better about myself for supporting the change
>>84319238
Ryderfag pls.
>>84319252
You haven't proved me wrong. And you're the one who said racist.
>>84318006
And people say comics aren't a dead medium.
>>84319130
No, I don't.
>>84319262
i actually have never read any of the old nova stuff. just a few issues of sams solo and his avengers/ms marvel appearances. i really do not like him.
>>84319190
Nothing happened to it because it was never a thing in the first place.
I'll say it again, I miss Robbie Reyes. This just reminds me that Marvel just cranks out diversity characters to make headlines but will drop them once buzz has died down.
>>84319290
Then what is the problem? Because you heavily implied race and its clear that you wont admit your full of shit because it fucks with your damn hugbox
>>84319130
That's Ultron trying out some new hardware. Tony is just a passenger. Doesn't count.
>>84319201
Okay, here is what I got from only this thread
>>84319002
>>84318939
>>84318192
WE HAVE A BINGO!
>>84318498
Kill yourself tumblr
>>84318006
WE WUZ KANGS
Getting pretty fucking tired of your shit Marvel
>>84319399
Still taking suggestions for things to put in the squares
She makes me hard...that said, are you people idiots of what?
This is obviously a character that is going to take over for a little while and then get a new codename and a mini and either get lost into obscurity or become part of the New/Young Avengers.
Are you retards new to comics or what?
>>84319444
>Bendis
>>84319403
I was quoting Slott as an example you retard.
>>84319444
You'll buy it anyways and You weren't going to buy it anyways
Have they explained who she is or why she is doing this? Marvel has too many books for me to waste money
>>84319295
I hate that Marvel is the face of comics
>>84319399
"Pandering"
Inhumans hate
"Why does Marvel hate X-Men"
/co/ shits on stylized art
Random B-Lister or lower gets series
>>84319001
Eh, the whole "normal teenager by day" shtick is played out.
>>84319444
>at least art looks nice
Or some variety of that.
>>84319068
Insofar as I remember, being white isn't really important to Roland's character (outside of the possible argument that fucks up the Arthurian stuff). If Elba can perform, then fuck it, let him perform.
I'd only be upset if a shit actor got the role just for being black.
>>84319464
/co/ is tired of throwaway characters with an agenda. Good stories are hard to come by these days in Marvel. When you push poorly thought out OCs, the narrative suffers
>>84319491
You shouldn't pay for it to begin with.
cartoonfag here.
Why do the main two comics constantly reimagine heroes and not just make new original ones?
>>84319491
her backstory has been happening in invincible iron man the past couple issues
shes smart a built an armor in her dorm
that is all
>>84319536
Too hard to make new characters popular if they don't ride the popularity of older characters.
>>84319536
If you look at the last ten years of the Big Two comics, you can basically count the successful number of original IPs with one hand. The market does not support creating new characters.
>>84319536
New ones don't sell, haven't for a long time.
When was the last a 100% OC donut steel hero with no legacy connection to any previous cape been a genuine hit?
That's not rhetorical, I can't think of one. Midnighter?
>>84318006
she built her own penis..in a cave...with scrap!
Why don't they just make every character black already?
>>84319589
deadpool
>>84319487
>>84319499
Great ideas
it's gonna be hilarious when all the characters on the old guard side are written by creative teams that are new and diverse.
>>84319536
Because they don't sell
>>84319570
Im beginning to think Stark designs get leaked on the internet. I hate this "everyone is special" crap, because whats the fucking point now?
>>84319608
He's literally a parody character
>>84318006
that's some weird eye makeup
>>84319640
If everyone is specialthen nobody will be
>>84319608
Sure, though he's a weird case considering his backstory.
But he still technically counts.
>>84319608
And it literally took forever before Deadpool was a genuine hit, it was largely thanks to dank mid 00s internet memes and Nicieza's Deadpool & Cable run popularizing him as lol XD randum character to casuals. The original ongoing book in the 90s was on the verge of being cancelled constantly, it's why Kelly got fed up with it and stopped doing any long term stories before finally leaving. Every arc was basically meant to be the last until he was told it wasn't cancelled after all.
>>84319524
Oh fuck off, you people only bitch about non-white non-straight characters.
You poisoned the narrative so hard that everything that is not aimed at /pol/fag tier idiots is now tumblr or whatever boogieman of the week you faggots are hating.
>>84319570
Built it by stealing things from other students, bitch flew off when campus security started knocking on her door.
look I get the need diversity and actually welcome characters of all ethnicity
but why is it every time we get a black chick she has hair like something you'd see on UPN or BET
>>84319685
No Id still be mad about this even if she was male/white. Nice memes though faggot
>>84319676
Syndrome secretly controls Marvel......yeah I could see it
>>84319589
Midnighter is a weird case because he's wildstorm purchase. I think the last OC that has made an impact that lasted in DC is Constantine
What would people's reactions be if they announced that a white guy was going to be the new Black Panther?
>>84319737
Impulse got a 100 issue or so run. He was set up in one Flash arc and then got hit own book.
>>84319743
Pure outrage and probably active protests outside marvel's building with tv stations covering the whole thing.
>>84319607
Instead of Spider Island it's Cage Match! Everyone is Luke Cage. It could crossover with DC's KFC continuity.
>>84318006
Is it finally time to go back to DC?
I heard Rebirth is good.
>>84319743
i need this to happen right now.
>>84319517
I'm just upset Susannah won't spend an entire half season calling him a honky.
>>84319685
There is some truth to it, though bitching about race is part of it too, unfortunately. It's super lame when you're doing it with everybody. Just from the top of my head, in the last two years the following people have been replaced with varying degree of approval and success:
>Hulk
>Thor
>Wolverine
>Cap
And now we're getting Iron Man. It's stale as fuck.
depends on how you count but runaways, the hood, Amadeus Cho desu, maybe the academy-arena-undercover generation
>>84319685
But Anon, without a white male to look upon as the only possible identifiable hero, we feel afraid and confused by a world we don't understand!
And we can't allow anyone who isn't us to enjoy comics that don't portray white males as the source for all goodness in the world!
Why can't you just empathize with only our point of view here?!?
>>84319589
>Midnighter
Has had two ongoing books, both of which lasted less than two years, iirc. That's not a genuine hit.
>>84319761
And where are they now? Impulse is still beneath Flash and always will be. Constantine is much bigger than Swamp Thing
>>84319743
>like five relevent main-line black Marvel heroes
>a million white ones
>IT'S TOTALLY THE SAME THING YOU GUYS
>>84319789
>I heard Rebirth is good.
It's fan-fucking-tastic dude.
Aquaman and Manta straight to their best, Superdad is cool, Flash is reading really well and you have things like King!Bats and Rucka!WW to boot.
>>84319781
Makes you wonder why they haven't done it yet.
>>84319624
saving it, keep it in the /co/nsciousness
>>84319823
Well impulse got strangled by terrible writing, but he did make his way all the way to the Flash headline. Had the writer not changed the character completely it could have stuck.
>>84319789
Rebirth has been fucking fantastic. Definitely recommended must reads would be Superman, Green Arrow and Green Lanterns.
>>84319517
>>84319068
I wish Elba was the biggest problem this movie has, I really do.
>>84319830
>DC readers drop books moment something happens that takes them out of their safe zone
>Marvel readers know books are shit, that their favorite characters will go through shit and they keep buying
Characterfags, not even once.
>>84319856
Throw Aquaman and Flash on that list.
WW and Titans look like they are going to be slow burners, so grab them in trade format later on.
>>84319789
With the exception of Justice League Rebirth has been good.
>>84319476
That anon should apologise
>>84319830
/co/ has been free advertising her all day. it's hilarious. like 4+ threads constantly
>>84319789
Everything has ranged from good to fantastic. OK tell a lie. Justice League was pretty bad but one issue out of all of Rebirth so far is good going
>>84319824
>>like five relevent main-line black Marvel heroes
>>a million white ones
Didn't someone at Marvel just the other day with the release of that pic of the new lineup (the one with Doom crushing the Iron Man helmet) brag that the majority of their lineup was non-white males?
>>84319886
>smarter than tony was at that age
She made a version of a thing thats been a thing for years and years of her life. Tony made a thing that no one on the planet had conceived of.
>>84319921
get out of here Meowth
>>84319886
>Iron man has always been one of my favorites
Why do they lie?
>>84319939
Probably, though most of those characters are going to be gone in the next fie years and replaced with the original flavours.
Every time /co/ takes the bait and thinks these characters are going to last forever.
>>84319919
>With the exception of Justice League Rebirth has been good.
Hitch is trash.
>>84319935
If it wasn't for /co/ I'd have no idea this was happening. It's sad seeing people fall for Marvel shit every time. If you're really tired of Marvel the best thing to do is just ignore them completely
>>84319961
Because it's hip to be le nerd now anon, though not an actual comic reader.....that shits for losers.
>>84319939
he isnt crushing the helmet, he's getting ready to be team carols iron man
>>84319789
i think so far only Justice League got less than "very good" review. personally i like green arrow the most
>>84318070
>as there is no social or political commentary.
HAHAHAHA.
It's bendis. Who claims in inteviews that he cried while creating miles.
>>84318045
>What the fuck why!?
Because bendis needs that much more BLACKED in his life.
>>84318289
I am repulsored by your sense of humor here.
>>84318342
What should they do with Cho? I know they went with the iron spider armor for MJ over cho. maybe a hulkbuster armor?
>>84319994
I got this picture and the Carol crushing one mixed up, point still stands though. The Marvel head they interviewed when they released this was talking about how majority of their lineup is non-white guys.
There's being representative and then there's straight up pandering.
>>84320013
>Who claims in inteviews that he cried while creating miles.
What a cunt
>>84319789
I think it's time to leave comics in general.
It's a dead medium being affected directly by movies.
>>84318788
Good creators in their groove can do that. Hell, they even made Whore workable.
>>84318927
Nigga please. Did they set up the groundwork for the character? Does the character have an interesting concept? Is there good chemistry anticipated between the new character and the existing characters? Here's a contrast: Even if Rhodey doesn't have an iron man armor, he's still an interesting enough supporting character to Tony.
>>84319988
I don't see how enraging fans over and over again is going to pull in sales. Sure, you can have some resistance bringing in a new character but outright spitting in their face would just turn them away.
>"Look guys! BLACK FEMALE IRONMAN!"
>"Why the fuck would you do that?"
>"I GUESS YOU WANT TO BUY THE COMIC NOW, RIGHT???!"
>"Yeah, no, fuck that."
>>84318006
>It's not Blaxplotation when we do it!
>>84319886
>I love people more when they are people that look like me and have no flaws
Jesus fucking christ that narcissism..
>>84320129
You buy something to see what all the hubbub is about. Word of mouth, motherfucker, geeks love to be enraged. People still go to see the new Transformer movies even though they fucking know they hate BayFormers.
>>84319048
Jean Paul Valley.
>>84319126
Actually, when they gave the iron spider armor to Cho, that worked well enough, but he isn't headlining.
>>84319399
>All new, all different
>Stan Lee gives his direct and explicit approval.
>Mass media fuckheads like the View weigh in
>Sjws claim that it's a civil rights victory.
>Massive crossover.
>>84320093
>Hell, they even made Whore workable
Don't lie.
>>84320208
i havent paid to see a transformers movie since 1, i havent seen a transformers movie since 2.
>>84319994
>civil war 3
>>84319532
Did this come out before Black Like Me?
>>84318289
holy christ
>>84320152
I don't think you know what Blaxploitation means. or exploitation, in general
>>84320208
I've been around the Squirrel girl threads when it first started up. I went from unintrested to wouldn't read even if it was given to me for free.
>>84319589
Invincible in 2002? That's image so it might be cheating.
Atomic Robo in 2007.
Hit Girl in 2008.
If we go big 2, and you count milestone, Static in 1993
Starman I think in 1994.
If the Runaways count as a hit, then 2002.
>>84319743
If chris priest made Kasper Kole or whatever the guy's name was, I'd be down with that shit.
It's like Marvel doesn't want anyone to buy their comics.
>>84320013
>cried while making miles
What? No. This can't be true. Did he actually say that?
>>84320402
Don't worry, variants and events will give them all sales they need.
>>84318006
She's cute as fuck though, shame about the retarded hair.
>>84318045
>15yo
Well never mind, I guess I won't read this.
First gwenpool is underage, now black iron
Fuck marvel and their obsession with teens.
>>84320413
Weren't they bitching about people pirating their titles not too long ago?
I think the fact Disney owns them they think they can do no wrong so they let people like Bendis go hog wild with this nonsense.
>>84320352
>Starman
>not legacy
>>84320402
They're making money in other outlets so they can let the comics division fester.
>>84319961
Just to play devils advocate. She could be (more than likely is) 20 or younger and has been into Iron Man since the first movie when she was like thirteenish. She may have legitimately loved Iron Man most of her comic reading life.
>>84320410
>>84320056
I somewhat misremembered it:
Her'es the exact quote:
>The enormity of Miles Morales' place in comic book history didn’t really hit Bendis, a father who has two kids of color among his four children, until recently. His 4-year-old adopted African-American daughter found a Miles Morales Spidey mask in the toy aisle of a department store, put it on and said, “Look daddy, I’m Spider-Man!” he recalls.
>“I started crying in the middle of the aisle,” says Bendis. “I realized my kids are going to grow up in a world that has a multi-racial Spider-Man, and an African American Captain America and a female Thor.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/marvel-inclusion-biracial-spider-man-article-1.2265591
>>84320237
I'll walk that back a bit. Whor's first appearance that didn't make me want to take a staplegun to my own eyes.
>>84319886
>>84318006
Sweet Jesus.
>>84320483
>Bendis, a father who has two kids of color among his four children
How many are his wives and how many are adopted?
"If you want your favorite heroes to have particular drastically new traits. Don't give it to them. Create other characters that has those new traits" - Some guy on the internet
>>84320402
But tumblr love it and they buy tonnes of comicsAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bendis, I know you're browsing this board, you meme-loving fuck.
If you're really all about trolling people and not just having a petty vendetta against those you disagree with, kill off the Black Widow in the most pathetic, uninspired way possible and replace her with a male-to-female transgender Black Widow and fill your writing with implications that he's better than Natasha in every way because he is a man.
That way you could get way more tears to drink.
>>84319886
>Tony Stark has been my favorite
The Robert Downey Jr. one right? Riiiight?
Those cinematic universe tarts don't care about the books Marvel. Stop pandering to them.
>>84320538
Two and two.
Nothing's good enough.
As long as the never touch Silver Surfer with this bullshit, I'll be fine.
>>84318289
Underrated.
>>84320589
It never pays off to pander. They'll just say it isn't good enough so they can demand more changes.
U fucking wot m8
>>84320589
This is why you don't panderI can't wait for the porn though
>>84320589
>Pushing for affirmitive action amongst creative departaments
Fuck, I'd love to see what kind of an ungodly aberration would such a team spawn.
>>84320646
That bat symbol on his face ruins the whole thing.
>>84320657
Didn't they figure out that Marvel has never had a black woman writer? Ever?
That's a little more extreme then "FUCKING AFFRIMITIVE ACTION"
>>84320589
This is why governments don't negotiate with terrorists
>>84320646
Go go Power Rangers...
>>84320646
The fact Batman had a yellow suit made for the guy amuses me.
![5-reason-to-watch-steven-universe-828300[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dAK3k4K.jpg "5-reason-to-watch-steven-universe-828300[1]")
>>84320657
>>84320483
What a twat.
>>84320589
As if leftist progressive hipsters running the company and giving you what you want wasn't enough, you want to force black women in the role of creator as well.
What did she mean by this?
>>84319002
Mfw /pol/ is my home board.
>>84320748ARE 138
>>84320748WHATWEREALLYARE
>>84320589
>we have write people for that
Typo, sorry guys.
>>84320769
Robocop Gordon was a good idea that had potential.
>>84320769
The hell happened to She-Hulk? Did she got hit with body positivity rays?
>>84320748KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEPWE KNOW WE KNOW
>>84320817
She's a sjw slut -- er-- excuse me, sexually liberated democrat
>>84320748WUZ KRYSTALS 'N SHEEEIT
>>84320748Wuz
I love how she still looks like an attractive white girl in the face. No big nose or big lips or big hips like a REAL African goddess.
>>84320769
Muslim Captain Britain is a real thing? holy fuck i thought that was just meme shit,
>>84320866
I love it, too.
Reminder that there was already an established young black female that was also an engineering prodigy and specifically worked with both Tony and her uncle, the freshly deceased James Rhodes, on the various Iron Man / Warmachine armors.
>>84320907
But of course they just forget all about her for whatever reason.
>>84320866
They've done this with Storm since her conception and no one seems to have a problem with it.
>>84320589
>only black people can write black characters
>but of course black people can write white characters
>t-that's different cos reasons
>>84318006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmFSR2E4sCY
Sending my regards from /int/
>>84320918
Gotta make sure no one is drawn to be attractive too, don't want to trigger toxic female jealousy and insult the eyes of the reader instead.
>>84320871
Meme are always real anon.
Always.
>>84320941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxKRz5ffWRo
>>84320907
>an established character
Eww gross. We want a brand new character we can load a bunch of progressive ideals on, make them a audience surrogate, and mary sue the fuck out of them.
>>84320769
>associating youth with niggardry
The disease is already inside of you.
>>84320589
What black woman got turned down by marvel? Is that what his point is?
>>84320947
>>84320871
At least we have Web Warriors, for now.
>>84320769
This is some good bait for people who don't read comics.
>>84320907
Who's to say Marvel won't use her as the sidekick?
>Iron Man
heh
>>84321004
That would require Bendis to know about continuity and the history of a title he is working on.
>>84320925
Just like they forget about Patriot and Dust.
>>84320769
Improvement on Starfire desu
Also who is John Stewart?
>>84321009
>Let's be progressive and racially sensitive
>Of course it is a must for a black girl to have an afro!
How is she able to access all the necessary helmet sensors once fully encased in armour? That afro insulation must be a pain to handle when wrapped all over the place.
>>84321027
Man, Dust has a really fucking cool power. Is she still alive?
>>84318006
Does Tony turns into a black woman this time?
>>84318675
It's out of my hands, I'm only a clock!
>>84321076
That's his replacement, a flawless 15-yo old grill genius who built her own iron man armor and is black too
Oh Redfred. You are a treat.
>>84321068
Same way Pepper's ponytail didn't obstruct anything when she wore Rescue.
>>84321122
>>84321068
She uses Felicity powers and hacks the afro to fit into the helmet.
>>84320907
To be fair she's BARELY better. I guess atleast she existed long enough so it doesn't feel she was literally pulled out an ass.
>>84321151
But that's a ponytail.
>>84321122
That looks kinda hot
>>84320999
No black women are trying to break through to writing comics. It's an agenda that's being forced in every facet of creative industry. Trying to put women, gays, minorities, or someone embodying all three in a seat of the creative process regardless of if they are equipped for the job or not.
Look up the Project Green Light clip where this cunt named Effie Brown tries to force Matt Damon and Ben Affleck in choosing a winner to a contest on the persons gender and race alone and Matt Damon shoots her down. It was a big hubbub trying to make him out as a racist as even HBO edited the clip to remove Effie's ignorant claim that diversity > merit.
>>84321155
if Medusa can do it, why not?
>the armor is able to operate in space
>medusas hair can get in through its hull
>>84320907
>Look guys! A BLACK FEMALE Iron man, I'm breaking so many boundaries it's insane. I bet nobody saw a black girl being smart enough to use a ironman suit would be in comics today!
>What about Lila, Bendis?
>W-who?
>>84320769
Always loved how horribly out of context the DC examples are and that most of them are gone now
>>84321071
As far as I know. She just kind of stopped showing up eventually.
>>84320925
Bendis getting royalties isn't "whatever reason".
>>84321213
Right here.
Official Marvel PR:
>The Marvel Universe stands divided. As those who once stood together now stand apart, new heroes will rise to answer the call. This Fall, a new armored avenger suits up in INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1 – a new series launching as part of Marvel NOW! Superstar creator Brian Michael Bendis welcomes incoming artist Stefano Caselli to the ongoing adventures of Marvel’s newest leading lady – Riri Williams!
>Making her debut earlier this year in the pages of Invincible Iron Man, Riri Williams will explode out of the pages of Civil War II and into the boots of the Armored Avenger. Reverse-engineering her own set of armor to make the world a better place, Riri will lead the charge as Iron Man! Well, for now. She’s working on the name! But what has become of Tony Stark? What could have happened during Civil War II to make him hang up the repulsors? That is, if he makes it out in one piece!
>“We’re in the middle of a very big Tony Stark storyline – actually three storylines converging,” says Brian Michael Bendis, speaking with TIME. “His best friend died, his company is collapsing and he’s finding out who his biological parents were all at the same time. How that all shakes out such that Tony is no longer in the armor? You’ll have to wait to find out for the end of Civil War II. But it does create a path for Riri Williams, who Tony will know and will be interacting with very shortly in the comics.”
>Strap in and suit up, True Believer. There’s a new hero in town. And she’s ready to take the Marvel Universe by storm. Be there as Bendis and Caselli armor up to bring you a new armored hero for Marvel NOW! Don’t miss INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1 – coming to comic shops and digital devices everywhere this fall!
INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Art by STEFANO CASELLI
Promo Art by JEFF DEKAL
Coming Fall 2016!
>Dekal insists that promo art is a cover
>implying it will be a variant, and the regular cover (probably from Caselli) is coming soon
>>84321170
>you know Lila, War Machines niece.
>...
>The super intelligent black girl that was basically a rip off of Natasha Irons from DC, You remember her the super smart niece of John Henry Irons. You remember her, right?
>>84321068
Also irl that fro would be fake hair the girl had to work in, but of course bendis doesn't know shit and thinks it just appears that way naturally
>black girl with weapons
reinforcing stereotypes again, Marvel
I thought they were trying to be progressive
>>84319886
>And now I get to see a girl who looks like me
Does she realize her goofy fat face is visible right there in the top left
>Marvel's progress is slow
Do these people literally believe that 'progress' is replacing every white male character with a minority
>>84319685
>you people only bitch about non-white non-straight characters.
Did you forget about Alpha: Big Time so quickly?
>>84321284
>Does she realize her goofy fat face is visible right there in the top left
Something something all blacks look the same
>>84318006
What if they renamed it from Iron Man to Iron Maiden?
Would that make it okay? It changes my entire perspective on the change.
So does Marvel admit, or at least acknowledge that they are clearly pushing an agenda at this point?
>>84321284
>Do these people literally believe that 'progress' is replacing every white male character with a minority
Yes. I mean, most of them aren't so obvious about it, but if they had a button in front of them that would do just that, they would not hesitate to press it.
>>84321308
No. An interview for Marvel Now had them say that a lot of the lineup being women and minorities is purely coincidental.
>>84321302
What if they renamed it Iron Mammy?
>>84318006
IRONY MAN
>>84321259
>he’s finding out who his biological parents were
Wait what now? Please for the love of god tell me they haven't changed who his parents were?
>>84321321
>purely coincidental.
>>84321339
yes but dude.
Iron Maiden.
>>84320769
>Superman hasn't been updated to Lex Luthor
>Blackbolt not being cucked
>No Raz or Hanktron
>Z-lister like Noh-Varr on there at all
>No Blackshot just to confuse people
>mfw this issue is going to be framed just like the new Ghostbusters movie; if you dare speak out against it, you are immediately branded a misogynist
It is a brilliant business strategy, though... creating a character that no one is allowed to complain about
>>84321321
Well that's just a straight-up lie on their part.
>>84321327
>Iron Mammy
With a polkadot head scarf and apron
>>84321284
>Do these people literally believe that 'progress' is replacing every white male character with a minority
Literally yes. It's not enough to just have natural proportional representation (say 2/10) be poc. It's not true representation until at least 9/10 are poc.
>tfw I'm not even joking or exaggerating
>>84321368
It's funny that you think normal people will even know about this.
>>84321363
I'd rather have that name used in some metal as fuck comic, than bland tumblr pandering shit.
>>84321368
>>84321368
>you are immediately branded a misogynist
So?
>>84321058
Is this OC?
>>84321389
I literally just found out about this because it made CNN front-page news. I am not a regular /co/ poster, nor do I regularly read comics, but this shit makes mainstream news every time Marvel does this.
It's funny that you appear to have forgotten how when Spidey was recently rebooted in the MCU how many normies bitched that it wasn't Miles Morales
>>84318289
OK. ILL GIVE YOU THIS ONE. THIS ON AND THIS ONE ONLY.
>>84321442
I'm surprised normies know Miles. More normies complained when DC turned Green Lantern into a cracker for the movie
Are the people that actualy buy the comic books, and am assuming those are western people, still white young males on avarge, or was there a sudden influx of female readers and non white people at some point? Because if yes, I kind of a envy you guys, well not the color part, but here if a female is somehow found reading a comic it is always a manga.
>>84321397
yeah, it'd be cooler if it was a white girl who was metal as fuck.
But you know.. take what you can get I guess.
>>84321476
>and am assuming those are western people, still white young males on avarge,
Oh yes. Overwhelmingly so
Every other SS rank hero has a chick version why not Iron Chick or whatever she goes by?
Pic related, batman had four until they got changed or retconned to have different names
>>84321122
Post more this arouses me. This might not be a halfbad idea.
>>84321504
Did they ever replace Batman?
>>84321479
>24 people depicted
>2 white males
>Nuremberg
Seems accurate.
>>84321493
So you guys started to like non white females or something, because I can't think of any other reason for so many of the to pop up everywhere?
Or is that some other sexual thing, I get it because you would not expect how much nazi porn there was in Isreal in the 50-60s.
>>84321504
Oh hey on the subject is lady Thor retconned out of existance, still mainline Thor, or a side character to Thor? Maybe some Marvelites could help me out with this because i cant get a straigt answer out of google, just old news articles from when she was introduced.
>Marvel made a good diversity comic with Ms Marvel
>Tries to make lightning strike twice by imitating the "young non-white and or female character takes over the mantle of an old hero"
>Doesn't actually do any of the things that made Ms Marvel good
This fucking company
>>84321525
Your acting like this is permanent. Its a fucking capeshit comic is Tony is dead or a nazi or whatever the excuse is this time it will be fixed in a few story arcs. Knowing Marvel via cloning.
>>84321551
The short version is, read the fucking comics.
Oh wait, the fucking comics in this case are horrible, possibly Aarons worst work ever.
Thor Odinson is still around, but is having esteem issues is a secondary/ b plot character. Whor leads the book.
So is it going to be Lady Iron Man? Iron Woman? Iron Lady?
>>84321536
It's Marvel trying to appeal to a new audience while trying to seem more progressive in the public eye.
... it's not working.
>>84321571
No I'm not you faggot. It will last a year. Now answer the question. Did they ever replace Batman?
>>84321473
They don't know who he is. They know he's the biracial flavor of Spider-Man and make their judgements from there.
>>84321536
>>84321536
>So you guys started to like non white females or something
Not me, personally. Their minority pandering was one of the factors for me quitting Marvel entirely ( It's actually a smaller factor than constant events and the price though)
But yeah it's what >>84321598 said
>>84321633
Hell, I've read at least two dozen of his books and I have no clue what kind of person he is, beyond bland as tapioca on white bread.
>>84321574
Damn. As a Norse pagan this whole thing pissed me off for totally non geek related reasons. Thor is a masculine god, manlyness is part of his freakig pantheon. If thy wanted to get a female Asgardian hero they could have just givin Sif, Freya or Frigg an avatar on earth and givin her her own comics. I know comics Thor isnt even close to being god level powera and should be considered an alien but it feels... blasphemous, I guess. Heck I would have been less upset if they gave him a gay avatar. It would have enraged the white supremishits who claim to be norse pagans and pleased the SJWs while still being masculine.
Thanks anon.
>>84321598
Ah ok. Well I understand them, if I had to live around SJW people, and most of my friends were SJW, I wouldn't want to explain why my work is mostly about strong white males and sexy white women.
>>84321653
>Sif
Why does everyone today wants to remind me about Journey into Mystery with Sif never being continued?
;_;
>>84321609
A year is the approximate lengty of time for 'a few story arcs' you double shitfuck. And with that tone im not answering a question that has an answer which doesn't have anything to do with the point im trying to make. Because if they ever did Batman came back, just like how this will happen. Calm your tits.
>>84321641
Meanwhile, two issues into his own book, Simon Baz has half of /co/'s DC readers declaring him best Lantern. Marvel fucked bad with Miles by playing it safe as to not offend anybody that he became bland as fuck
>Bendis has two black wive's daughters
MEME MAGIC
>>84321653
That's not their MO. Existing minority characters won't suffice. They gotta push these OCs and really leverage them using the old, important mantles.
>>84321692
>And with that tone
Alright Mum, calm down
>>84321442
Miles Morales enjoyed a much bigger push than this character will ever get, and was by that time already an established character. People aren't going to find tumblr fanblogs and pages of comic book scans if they do a google search for this nobody. Plus, Tony isn't getting his sides blown out and buried in the fucking dirt prior to this switchover. Peter's death and the perceived slight of his being replaced was possibly the biggest reason why Miles got pushed so hard in the first place. Nerd rage is always a reliable source of promotion. But Riri here is different. You said it yourself: you are only aware of this change because the biggest global news corporation did a piece on it. Once this fades out of the news cycle and is no longer thrust in their faces people will forget about it. Do people even know or care that the Hulk was literally sucked into an asian kid? Do they remember the pieces showing Superman without his powers or James Gordon as Batman?
>>84321583
Iron Lady sounds cool but too many connotations to Margret Thatcher. Unless they make her have super conservacunt views which would be hilarious.
>>84321692
It's not about the permanence, it's about the principal. All the pandering illustrates that quality in storytelling isn't even a remote priority.
>>84321704
Wait a minute. Isn't Bendis jewish?we don't marry black people, we don't even marry ethiopians who are technicly jews .
>>84321719
>Riri meets Cap
>she's overjoyed and feels this is a great honor
>during their handshake Cap mentions that he has Irish genes
>she stops being excited, suddenly talks in a very cold monotone and goes to wash her hands at the first opportunity
>>84321345
Many moons ago, senpai. Arno Stark is their son, Tony is some kid they adopted to have around because Arno was sick little lad.
>>84321719
>black 15 year old condoliza rice channeling the ghost of ayn rand/nizche ubermensh will to power.
now THAT would be something.
>>84321741
Dude, its capeshit genre. If quality were ever important tony stark would be either dead or geriatric by now because rebooting a universe is the most half ass way to write when things get too convoluted. If quality were ever a concern the heroes would age and die and not be magically brought back all the fucking time.
>>84320925
Bad writing practices, mostly.
In other words, business as usual at one of the Big Two.
>>84321803
If you're gonna be so dismissive of superhero books, why are you even posting in this thread? Just to shitpost?
>>84321751
>we
OUT! OUT, YOU JEW RAT BASTARD! BACK TO THE CAMP WITH YOUR KIND, AND STAY THERE THIS TIME
>>84321268
>I-I have no idea what you're talking about! Now, look here, see the afro? Going to blow away people! The first Black Female that's good with ironman suits! I'm going to make history!
>>84321228
General quality of life correlates with scoring a lot more than race.
>>84321397
A teenager putting on a weaponized mech suit and blowing shit up seems fairly metal to me.
>>84321838
Im not being dismissive, i just know when to not take thjngs super seriously and a fucking comic book is one of them. Its not like this is remotely as terribad as new52
>>84318006
I wouldn't have minded this if
1) She didn't have the retarded afro
2) Didn't come out of bumfuck nowhere
I bet she'll have the whole
>NUH UH YOU DID NOT JUST MAKE FUN OF MAH SUIT
>>84321907
Hmmm what does the fro have to do with anything?
>>84321751
American jews are fucked up.
>>84318006
Are they trying to push she's actually smart enough to make the suit or upgrade it by herself or is she just like a soldier whom tony gives the suit?
>>84321935
How's it going to fit in the helmet?
>>84321751
Depends, theres a lot of racial jews who dont give a shit about the guidelines of being a jew because theyre not jews by religion.
>>84321935
How the fuck is she going to get that into a helmet that size quickly and without obscuring something important?
Like 90% of it needs to go and that's coming from someone with an afro.
>>84321983
She's only been around for like two months, but her entire thing is being a child genius.
>>84319886
"I loved tony stark in the avengers movie and tumblr told me about black iron man, I have an opinion that matters, look at me"
I can only seethe so much before the froth turns to poison in my mouth
>>84321991
Hair ties. Its just poofy, it doesnt have any extra mass.
>>84321935
in addition to it being stupid to use a facemask and helmet with an afro, it's a overused design, second only to afro puffs.
>>84321844
Well actualy my parents and grandparents do live in a camp :D. But realy those Amerijews, worse then the sefardis I tell you.
>>84318006
why cant i help but get the feeling this will be viewed as racist a couple decades from now?
>>84321442
>Doesn't browse /co/
So why did you slip in this thread?
>>84319886
As a black person I want this person to die. It's obvious she only knows Downey Jr. Man and doesn't give a shit about the comics.
>>84321866
>everything i dont like is /pol/
I rarely visit that board. I just hate partisan politics.
>>84322023
You do realise that there's a hell of a lot of hell there.
Tie it in a bun and you have a mass pushing into the back of your head, leave it loose and you're going to have it everywhere.
Tying it won't do shit.
>>84322008
>black genius
maybe, not that much for me
>woman genius
ok, whatever
>black woman genius
nah senpai I'll pass
>>84319994
I work with girls IRL, this is just civil war PMS waiting to happen, with lots of pregnancies because the nig nog characters cant put a fucking willie on, but its perfect, because it will create the 'dad isnt there for baby' drama. How edgy our dads are, it speaks to the minority
>>84321894
How's it not?
>>84321321
The creepiest aspect of this whole cultural movement is its pathological need to hide its intentions and values and lie about their presence.
Why are they only turning good guys into women/blacks?
>>84322058
Are you saying women and black people can't be intelligent?
>>84322025
>But realy those Amerijews, worse then the sefardis I tell you.
Still better than moroccan jews
>>84322071
becase it's fiction
>>84322075
I'm saying a black woman can't be tech genius
>>84320589
someday they are gonna stop digging themselves holes and start tying rope around tree branches like they are supposed to.
>>84322071
more controversy, more angry fans, more sales. No one cares about legacy villains one way or the other.
>>84319685
>tumblr
>boogieman of the week
>of the week
>the week
>week
M8 they've been terrible since the beginning.
>>84322075
Yes
Jesus, even tumblr artists pander less than marvel
>>84322079
I don't know, marocan jews have good food and their girls act good. we have cousins from US of A every summer, no words can describe stuff they do.
Heck I would sooner date[not marry] an etiopian, then an american. They know their place at least.
>>84321397
>we'll never have a metal as fuck Iron Man suit piloted by a mechanical genius musician
It'd salvage this whole thing if this character was that.
Imagine
>Genius
>only interested in music and applies it to that
>Tony goes to a university for a lecture
>character crashes the lecture
>Tony shows interest because that's some impressive tech
>eventually leads up to her becoming the iron maiden to take over for Tony at an unspecified dateWhich is never because comic timelines
>only agrees if Tony can get her some real shows and she can use the suit for them
>>84322061
Its only one character being fucked in the assface
>>84322089
In fiction anyone can be anything
>>84320623
Newfag
>>84322089
And why is that? Wanda Austin is doing fine.
>>84321991
>>84321997
>>84322024
She could easily slide a stocking cap over her hair and or tie it in a ponytail. It's not that complex dealing with a fro.
>>84322114
>Only one
Depends if you step back and look at the bigger picture.
Marvel just kind of "slowly" did similar assfucking.
>>84322075
>knows how to fix power armor
>can't swim
>>84322143
I have hair about 70% the size of hers and the compression ratio is pretty crazy. I can squeeze it all into a single small topknot when I gotta wear a helmet or wig
>>84322107
I was actually just saying a black woman can't be the next setve jobs, bill gates, zuckerberg or ellon musk. I'm pretty sure there are black women at harvard and shit and maybe there can be a pretty smart black man or smart woman but it's actually impossible for me to imagine a black woman tech genius
>>84322107
Except women/black women exist in the tech field and in high positions. Not as much as men mind you but to say they don't exist is retarded.
Most of this thread is retarded. People jumping on someone who likes the new girl for being black but just like that person they like it when a character is white like them.
I don't read Ironman either way but /co/ is starting to look like /tv/ lite more and more.
>>84322143
>She could easily slide a stocking cap over her hair and or tie it in a ponytail.
Which brings us to the "quickly" part.
By the time she does that and puts on the suit half of the city would be destroyed.
Not to mention there's still a bunch of hair scratching the back of your neck.
I don't think you've ever dealt with a large afro in a small helmet before.
>>84319994
This is literally "quirky and poc characters" vs "old school white people"
>>84322154
Le black people can't swim meme
Nice
>every white marvel hero is replaced by a black or female lead
>soon there will be zero white male heros
>kids will stop reading because the majority of the market isn't represented
it's like there isn't any foresight of these consequences
>>84322137
did she actually engineered or create something or just became a CEO through the corporate ladder?
>>84322174
>Old School White People vs Quirky POCs....and Dr. Strange
>>84321866
>hugbox on /pol/.
>/pol/ is a hugbox
>every other thread is a bait thread
>>84322089
There's not actual green giant men jumping around getting stronger as they get madder. Why does fiction have to reflect real life all of a sudden.
>>84322188
Kids already stopped reading stupid.
This is a pathetic attempt to try and get kids to read it, namely tumblr kids who think diversity is the bees knees
Ursula Burns is the Chairman and CEO of Xerox and she's black.
>>84322215
Of course a black woman could only get ahead by copying what other people have done
>15 Year Old
>Tech Genuis
Already a Mary Sue.
>She's also black and a woman
>Anybody who has an issue with this is racist
well played
>>84322222
Oh boy good one
>>84322222
Quints of POTTERY
>>84322222
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
We full /pol/ now
>>84322227
To be fair genius teenagers are a diamond dozen in comics.
Let's see how insufferable she is before we jump to conclusions. I mean you'll probably be right, there's zero chance she'll be good what with the Bendis and all but she could just be boring and lame like Miles.
>>84322166
>I don't read Ironman either way but /co/ is starting to look like /tv/ lite more and more.
you mean pol:^)
>>84322168
It's a comic book. So you can jade reality just a little. It takes a literal 10 seconds to slide a cap over your head perfectly. I don't see why this is an issue when there's comics about a guy summoning a costume out of a ring and a woman who spins and becomes 10x sexier. A man literally says Shazam and gets a neat lightening costume
>>84322260
Admit it it was a good joke.
>>84318070
Her very fucking creation is political/social commentary
>MMHMM GURRRRRL U KNOW LEQUANDA BE AS SMART AS IRON MAIN SHIIIIIEEEEEEEET
>>84322227
Well that's what makes them super. A genetic edge.
>>84322227
>tech genius
>even slightly uncommon in Marvel
>>84322281
>political/social commentary
>>84318831
>Implying people liked war machine
So series will be renamed to Ironwoman?
>>84322267
>It's a comic book. So you can jade reality just a little.
Not for shit like this anon.
>It takes a literal 10 seconds to slide a cap over your head perfectly.
>perfectly
Are you retarded?
If you were to just slip a cap on over that you would have hair fucking everywhere.
>I don't see why this is an issue when there's comics about a guy summoning a costume out of a ring and a woman who spins and becomes 10x sexier. A man literally says Shazam and gets a neat lightening costume
Gee I don't know, maybe because this character
1) Isn't super fast
2) Isn't magical
3) Doesn't transform in any way.
>>84322281
So was any other super hero creation. Comicbooks were propaganda to start with. Captain America ran around curb stomping Nazis.
>>84322264
I mean /tv/ try posting a movie with a black person on /tv/. Elba, Jackson and Denzel are about the only three that get a pass.
>>84322304
Shouldn't it be iron-girl?
>>84322319
The suit doesn't have tits like rescue so man is fine
>>84322304
Why would they? They let Thor be a title, at least Iron Man is actually an alias.
>>84318006
Nigger aside, the fuck is going on with Tony's thumb
>>84318006
So, is there anything original that has black characters in it?
>>84318997
Sam becoming Captain America was seen as a stunt as well and he has history.
>>84320769
DC still does it better.
>>84318006
This makes me physically sick.
I think this is worse than the new Ghostbusters movie.
What the hell is the point of all of this shit, and when will it end?
You want black, female characters, okay fine, make something original.
I don't give a fuck what ethnicity or gender they are, but I hate it when they fuck with something that is already established.
>>84322325
Well, was more pointing out her age, admittedly Spider-Man started out similarly, but still seems odd.
>>84322306
Says who? For what reason does it escape your grasp of reality for someone to slide a cap on and quickly pack hair into said cap? I'm sorry that's just cherry picking at its finest.
>>84322328
Well Thor didn't have man in his name.
Its kinda weird to have male Ironman and female Ironman
>>84322310
Okay so what's the social/political commentary in the creation of Thor, Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Dr. Strange?
![Screen+Shot+2014-07-22+at+6.24.39+PM[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JIEoxD2.png "Screen+Shot+2014-07-22+at+6.24.39+PM[1]")
>>84322328
Marvel Thor was a title from day zero. It not being a title was a hamfisted retcon done for shock value.
>>84322222
Top kek
Shoving political correctness up our asses as usual.
As an aside, I'm predicting that by the end of the decade that every major established entertainment franchise will be the victim of this trend.
There will be like, a Charlie Brown Christmas where him and his friends are all black, poor, and live in the ghetto, so they have to ask black Santa for a Christmas tree.
So instead of originality, we just get gender swaps and ethnic "muh diversity".
>>84322075
It's overplayed as fuck. Genius by itself is common and boring. And since the SJW types are generally afraid of making the POC look bad, even if it's necessary to create a unique character, they tend to avoid black brick heads.
So, there's a long march practically identical tech geniuses, like black power girl, or natasha irons,
You want my attention, you need to throw in SOMETHING more. Mr Terrific's atheisim. Cho's bullseye powers. Blue Marvel's stick up his ass.
>>84322143
I'll concede that point if they ever show her wearing one. Hell, even if they throw in a line about her engineering some gizmo in the helmet to manage the afro, I'll give it points for that.
>>84322195
Her real ability is navigating military purchasing requirements. Credit where credit's due. That shit's some serious corporate and managerial skills. But it's not tech.
Well, if we get a Spanish American president, suddenly there will be Spanish people represented more often in entertainment, etc.
It seems that's how the thinking goes for whatever reason.
President is half black, okay, African Americans are everywhere now.
We have a golden retriever for a leader, now dogs are taking all of the previously human roles.
Totally bonkers.
>>84322344
With Ghostbusters they seemingly actually rewrote/ignored the preset lore entirely, with this it's more just passing the title to someone new, like Cap and Thor. The characters don't exist as they were in the past anymore, they're just celebrity cameos, if they show up, whereas Tony, Steve, and Odinson are still around, just doing other shit.
>>84322306
>Are you retarded?
If you were to just slip a cap on over that you would have hair fucking everywhere.
That you could easily pack inside the cap within seconds.
>Sauce
Have a fro. Doesn't take effort to shove it in helmets and caps.
>>84322325
Iron Person!!!
>Still reading Marvel comics
You have no one but yourselves to blame.
When will it end
>>84322355
That doesn't seem like a title to me.
He seems to think of Thor as a totally different dude.
>>84322364
>It's overplayed as fuck. Genius by itself is common and boring. And since the SJW types are generally afraid of making the POC look bad, even if it's necessary to create a unique character, they tend to avoid black brick heads.
Reminds me of SJW retards being butthurt that the black chick in the Ghostbusters is "street smart" instead of a scientist and she told them all to shut the fuck up.
God I love it when white liberal college kids get smacked the fuck down by the very people they claim to champion
>>84322261
Consider that it's Bendis, and that it's likely to take 6 years for her to develop anything resembling a personality.
>>84322377
I see your point, and maybe I had it backwards, but it still seems highly unoriginal in any case.
>>84322361
Well if you kill yourself before that then you won't need to see it happen! : ^)
>>84322375
>Taking the argument to the completely absurd
>>84322361
I would watch the fuck out of this. You need a better simile.
>>84322412
Let him have his fub
>>84322390
When comic book movies stop being successful and comics retreat from the mainstream. The only reason this keeps happening is because SJW's are moviefags and they only care about the characters they see in movies so in order to pander to them you must take existing characters and make them a proud coloured pers-- I mean, person of colour.
>>84322407
>Well if you kill yourself
>if you kill yourself
>you kill yourself
>KILL YOURSELF
Seems to be the only way to get away from this garbage.
>>84322398
Indeed, not saying it isn't kind of stupid itself, just not Ghostbusters stupid. Should just give here a different but similar alias, ie Iron-Woman/Girl or whatever.
>>84322428
>fub
What's fub? Is it like flubber?
>>84322351
Thor was for cripples, we'd call them handicapped.
Spider man was for poor people.
Wolverine was for canadians. Much like Puck, who's named after the hockey puck.
Dr Strange is for eastern religious, which really triggered the ultra christfags of the time.
>>84322430
Comic books have been trying to appeal to the mainstream for decades now. We got some stupid shit 90s as well.
>>84322439
>Thor was for cripples, we'd call them handicapped.
Explain.
>>84322433
I am wondering what her motivation would be to create an Iron Man armor suit in the first place?
Does she have heart problems, and also wants to be a hero?
I am also wondering who the target audience is.
Honestly, and maybe I am wrong, but I don't think many young black girls give a damn about comic books.
>>84322437
>fun
The letter B is right next to N on the keyboard.
>>84322452
Don Blake didn't have the walking stick for nothing, he had a bum leg and couldn't walk without it
>>84322439
>Much like Puck, who's named after the hockey puck.
keckles
>>84318153
Well it certainly was for thousands of years.
Now people want to fuck 15 year olds but they pretend they don't because of "muh american social standards"
>>84321170
Riri will be Iron Man and maybe Lila can be War Machine and Toni Ho is Iron Patriot. Sexy mecha girls for everyone.
>>84322386
I keked so hard
Its strange how new52 drove people away from DC just in time for Marvel to slowly star getting tenfold worse then New52. I honestly prefer twink Lobo to rich, not detrimentally insane Deadpool. The fact he struggled with mental illness made him relatable to me. Puc related, that page pulled me oyt of a nervous near-breakdown xaused by a bout of de-realization. You want progressive yet ruin the first hero who openly deals with mental illness? True deadpool has hopped dimensions into the otherwise god awful, bland x-men movie franchise.
>>84322457
The social rejects do, but that's true of everyone really. And they prefer the movies more anyway.
>>84322457
Iron Man went missing (he faked his death to go deep undercover and didn't warn anyone)
she new she was smart enough to make her own suit using the leaked schematics of his previous one, and felt like it as a sign
the target audience is people who buy internet controversial books to see what all the fuss is about, a demographic which makes up about half of Marvel's revenue
>>84322486
>A letters page in Alpha Flight seemed to confirm that Judd is named after the Shakespearean character. However, in a FAQ dated 5/30/2006, John Byrne has stated that he is named after a hockey puck.
>>84318006
Progressive af
>>84322489
>Now people want to fuck 15 year olds but they pretend they don't because of "muh american social standards"
Yep, that's true.
Also, it okay for young girls to furiously masturbate while reading about a sparkling vampire.
>>84322361
There is a youtube channel dedicated to making Charlie Brown an co. stereotypical ghetto black citizens, its great, just look up the "Great Dolemite"
>>84318153
It's a human being thing, anon. People don't fuck 15 year olds because they don't want to go to jail, not because they don't want to.
>>84322501
Goddamnit
NOW pic related. I need to go to bed. I guess the other pic could be still related to me fucking up just now.
>>84322507
>the target audience is people who buy internet controversial books to see what all the fuss is about, a demographic which makes up about half of Marvel's revenue
Ugh, I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
this shit is only happening because America is so "culturally diverse"
wouldn't happen in my 91% white country
>>84322548
Shuddap!
Stop making me jealous.
So, when they are going to reveal the new teen white male superhero?
Not trying to be /pol/ here, but the only one right now is Kid Cyclops (not so new actually), that in the new Champions book will be treated as Kid Hitler.
So, yeah.
>>84322540
Because its true.
>>84322573
I know, that's why I had a sickening reaction.
>>84322566
How long ago was Alpha?
Also I'd count Nova and blue beetle as white hispanic.
>>84322351
Wasn't Spider-Man some sort of poor nerd that was suppose to relate to the reader? Also, the X-men and Ironman were political and social commentary.
Ironman was a big business suit who was humbled by a life endangering incident.
We all know what the X-men was about it's blantantly stated.
Also note, Dr. Strange was a big time surgeon who wouldn't work on people if they couldn't provide the funds for the operation. He was smug and stuck up and much like Ironman, he was humbled by having his hands restored.
>let's create a character young black people can relate to
>give her a genius-level IQ
![african-indian-hair-afro-help-hair-mini-afro-hairstyles[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IF0y0VL.jpg "african-indian-hair-afro-help-hair-mini-afro-hairstyles[1]")
>>84322346
>Says who?
Says someone who actually has a damn afro. Getting it into a helmet is fucking awkward as shit, an Iron Man helmet has more fucking worries than a regular one as that seeing as it's a full helmet rather than one for the top of your head.
>>84322381
>Have a fro
Reminder, if you have a fro like this you have no stake in this argument.
>>84322593
Well the average comic reader doesn't have a genius level IQ, yet they can related with Bruce Banner and Reed Richards.
>>84322605
That's because they had more character than their race and sex
>>84322452
Thor is retarted
>>84322619
If she has a genius-level IQ then isn't that more than her race and sex?
>>84321270
>Afros are fake
Wut?
>>84322636
Not really, at this point having a genius level IQ is the norm for Marvel.
>>84322645
Still adds a character trait. On top of that, the comic hasn't even came out yet....so where you're magically getting her personality is her race from, escapes me. We know zelch my man.
>>84322548
>wouldn't happen in my 91% white country
What country is that?
>>84322645
>>84322636
>>84322605
>>84322593
She's an engineer. Not Eisenstein. Her IQ doesn't need to be mesmerizing, she just needs to understand nuts and bolts.
>>84322588
2012, good year for spider-related character.
But he is in the limbo now, so doesnt count.
Now we are at the point that we should have a white male for the diversity.
Having a son of some greek/roman deity would be cool for example, so they dont have to deal with the race.
(Ib4 the guy is half greek god half indian)
>>84322675
>so where you're magically getting her personality is her race from
The only character that didn't fall under that was Kamala the rest were defined by their race and sex with a quirky personality trait that's rarely brought up, what makes you think this is going to change any time soon?
>>84322701
>he only character that didn't fall under that was Kamala the rest were defined by their race and sex
Have you read Ms Marvel? She's completely defined by her muslim background, but it's really well done. Miles isn't defined by his blackness because he rarely ever even brings it up. They rarely bring up anything of the sort with Miles and he's an awful character because he's boring. That's with a majority of black character. CapFalcon isn't running in the street acting like a stereotypical black dude, so I don't know how that makes him defined by his race.
>what makes you think this is going to change any time soon?
All i'm saying is WE DONT KNOW. We don't know on what level her character depth is. So how about we wait and see.
>>84322675
She's been around for two months. And from the looks of things, Bendis is going to play it super safe again like with Miles.
Since this is obviously Bendis writing for his daughters, I have an urge to make horrible rule 34 with some bendis shaped characters fucking the hell out of them.
>>84322701
>The only character that didn't fall under that was Kamala the rest were defined by their race and sex with a quirky personality trait that's rarely brought up
Ms Marvel is defined by her race. Miles really isn't. Which is why he sucks so bad, because he's just peter parker but black. A good black spiderman would be some ghetto hoodlum running around calling women bitches.. I'd get a kick outta that.
>>84322390
Race war.
>>84322741
>Barracuda with Spider-Man powers
That would be terrifying.
>>84322730
Kamala is also defined by her family members.
Robbie Reys works the same way.
So far you could swap panels with this new girl and Natasha irons, and the black power girl and it would play out exactly the same.
>>84322730
>She's completely defined by her muslim background
You're not getting it.
Kamala wants to escape from it which ties into her regular teen life, idols and what not.
The others are defined in the fact that their characters are just black, just a woman, just gay and so on.
>>84322757
>Kamala wants to escape from it which ties into her regular teen life, idols and what not.
Which still means she's defined by her background. A background she wishes to escape.
>The others are defined in the fact that their characters are just black, just a woman, just gay and so on.
How in anyway is that definition? Miles is black, but he acts like some suburban black dude. He's not defined by being black because rarely is it brought up that he's black. Maybe by you, because that's all you notice, but Miles really isn't defined by anything but wanting to be a hero and his spider powers.
>>84322700
>greek/roman
>white
>>84322741
Naw, you don't need that, the problem is that bends refuses to give miles any bad characteristics, he doesn't need to be defined by his race. What he needs is some defining characteristics that isn't about race or isn't about peter.
>>84322757
>The others are defined in the fact that their characters are just black, just a woman, just gay and so on.
>Miles
Is a black dude who inspires to try to be the hero he looks up to so much. That's his definition. The fact he's black is just the entry point. He really isn't defined by his "blackness" because no one is running around playing the racecard. He's just a kid.
Many women and gays in Marvel are the same as this. Many have stand out backgrounds and ideologies, Marvel just fails to deliver so you can't really grasp these people as believable so you hang on to the most prominent feature. Which is their race, gender, or sexuality.
>>84322804
>What he needs is some defining characteristics that isn't about race or isn't about peter.
The point i'm trying to make is, Miles has no black characteristics, because how would you even make black a characteristic. People are saying he's defined as a black, but what they mean is his primary gimmick is he's black.
>it's yet another OC teen genius """"legacy"""" character
repulsive
>>84322779
Good god you're retarded.
Lets do it like this
Kamala = muslim wanting to leave + hero fanatic + rookie hero + Teenager problem
Miles = Peter but black
That's it, there's fucking nothing there.
I think the mistake you're making is that you think I'm saying he's defined by BEING black as in "grew up in the ghetto" black when it's literally just skin deep he's not even a stereotypical black he's JUST black
>>84322548
who gives a shit about your country.
>>84322822
I get that, but what I am trying to say is that they shouldn't even bother and try to make him a relatable character with out race.
>>84322850
>Kamala = muslim wanting to leave + hero fanatic + rookie hero + Teenager problem
Okay, like I said defined by her background. A muslim teen wanting to branch away.
Also
>Miles = Peter but black
Miles isn't even black Peter, that would actually require giving him characterization. Because Peter was likable. How can he have no characterization, but also have the depth of Peter's characterization? That's contradictory.
Miles' flaw is he wants to live up to Peter. He WANTS to be Peter but he can't. That's his characterization. He's standing in the shadow of a giant, he can never please the reader like Peter could, emotionally.
>>84322741
Are you seriously saying it's hard for you to imagine a black person with respect for people?
>>84322888
>Miles' flaw is he wants to live up to Peter. He WANTS to be Peter but he can't. That's his characterization.
Which is bad because they're writing him as a copy of Peter without the things that made him a good character.
What aren't you getting here?
>>84322913
You saying he's BLACK Peter. When saying that means he has depth.
He's Miles, he isn't defined by his blackness, he's defined as living in the shadow of a giant.
>>84318006
Is Marvel really making enough from their movies that they don't care about comic sales anymore?
>>84320771
>/pol/ is my home board.
>>84322931
Pretty much.
Everything leading up to and after Secret Wars has been pure, grade-A, shit.
They're going for a market that doesn't exist and it's starting to catch up to them.
>>84320129
To be honest, i've long since stopped caring. There's only so many times Marvel can do this before it doesn't even register a reaction from me.
Miles, Ms. Marvel, Falcon Cap, Fem Thor, now Black Female Iron Man. It's not controversial when it happens to every hero.
agree.. I have pretty much given up on Marvel and DC.
After Civil War and the Brightest Day.. the good times were over.. its all shit now.. do what you will no more money from me..
>>84323238
The beginning of what you say as "good times" for Marvel started at Avengers Disassembled.
>Spider-Man is a black kid
>Iron Man is a black kid
>Captain America is a black guy
WE WUZ MARVELZ
>>84318531
I knew a 14yr old in high school with bigger tits than that.
>>84322631
>Retart
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