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>>84265439
>ywn cuddle with Pabby
:^(
2nd for best girl
>>84265496
Nth for real best girl.
>>84265507
Literally who?At least put her name in the filename so that I can read about her
>making the new thread too early
>jyn erso in charge of /swco/
>>84265542
Jarael. Waifu from the Knights of the Old Republic comic.
>>84265588
Wait, so her race is literally space elves?
>>84265625
Eugenic space elves yes.
>>84265661
But to add, it ain't the race that makes her best girl, its the personality and story.
Another best girl
>I think this is just fan art but still worth posting.
>>84265588
Malak is not a ladies person
>>84265715Knowing that "loser" like Zayne cucks a future Sith Lord always makes me giggle something fierce.
>>84265752
>cucks
Get out
>>84265715
He couldn't please Jarael once he had his lower jaw ripped off. Not even his "sonic stimulator" he had installed did the trick.
>>84265853
No.
>>84265715
I'ma gonna replay through KOTOR 1 and 2 for shits n giggle before I play SWTOR. When do the KOTOR comics take and place and is the a MEGA link to them?
>>84265921
They take place during the Mandolorian War, 5 years before KOTOR 1.
>>84265921
Don't forget The Restored Content Mod
>>84265507
Seconding this
20th for meme music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JOUfAKQyf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66QaJFAj3PI
>>84266190
Thank you for this
>>84265507
Fuck yeah.
>>84265507
>>84265715
>>84265968
People always complain about wanting an alien POV character in star wars but this "alien" girl is literally just a an elf with tattoos.
Be more experimental!
>>84266292
Sorry, I'll rather stay with what I'm comfortable with.
>>84266292
Like I said. It ain't the race that makes Jarael best girl.
>>84266292
Who's that cutie on the left? Or is he Plo?
>>84266426
Acording to the artist, he is just a random force sensitive
>>84266541
Ah, that's still neat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCm8yAxBr8
Just in case there are those that haven't seen this treasure yet.
Does anyone have the leaked Rogue one visual guide pages?
http://www.starwars.com/databank/holonet-news
Interesting. I like how the news media was nationalized (for lack of a better word) under the Republic during the Clone Wars so naturally the Empire just never relinquished control and made it their state-sanctioned mouthpiece to tell the galaxy only what they wanted it to know.
>>84266327
Has anyone ever shooped "disc" to "dick" in this pic?
>>84267913
StarWars.com actually did an AR campaign for this before AOTC (back before AR campaigns were even really a thing) where they'd have an actual Holonet News website with various "real" articles. Some of them described events that would lead up to AOTC such as updates on the Separatist Crisis, press releases from Palpatine, etc, but they'd also have news of random disasters, financial news, society, editorials, etc. When AOTC finally premiered the site said it had been taken over by the office of the chancellor for temporary emergency use.
It was pretty neat and I wish they'd do something like it again.
>>84268492
IIRC Pablo was in charge of that, too. This was some of his earliest stuff, before he was a bigshot creative executive.
>>84268492
That's pretty cool. They did something similar with Rebels, with a website with Imperial propaganda. When Rebels premiered, the website got covered with Sabine's graffiti.
>>84268492
I remember that! They had an article about Nute Gunray's mistress publishing some shocking tell-all book, and how it was at the top of the bestseller list while Valorum's autobiography that came out at the same time wasn't selling for shit.
Also they had a gossip columnist criticizing all of the various senator's outfits like a catty E! host.
>>84268698
>Nute Gunray's mistress publishing some shocking tell-all book
Oh my
>>84268827
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gunray_On_Top
Yes, that is the book's title
>>84268848
>Gunray On Top
Bit of a nerdy question here: does anybody know the standard crew number on an Imperial light cruiser? Wookiepedia wasn't any help.I'm trying to find out how many people Chopper killed at the end of Stealth Strike.
>>84268492
They ran a holonet news site before Rebels came out:
holonetnews.com
Some people were freaking out because they used tumblr to host it. Sadly they haven't added anything to it since season 1.
Jesus Christ, I hope they tone GW back down. I made it to the last node only sacrificing Royal Guard along the way but an all level 80 maxed out team sent three of my teams on what I'll just call a Rey Rape Rally.
Either fix GW or tone Rey the fuck down. She stomps harder than any other character in the game, which is fucking insane.
>>84269353
Well, one thing's for sure.You can't stop the Chop.
>>84265496
This is actual best girl
>>84270560
That is actual dead girl.
>>84270560
I see that she is your waifu, she is my waifu too. Let's not be selfish, let us share her.You get the top half, I get the bottom
How long would it be before TFA fan shows up to spread cancer in this thread?
>>84270786
Roundabout your post showing up, apparently.
Seriously, Star Wars is Star Wars. People want to talk about TFA or the novels or the comics or the cartoons, why not.
>>84265685
>personality and story
I'm not sure you know how this waifu thing works.
>>84270742
>>84270846
But the guy wasn't talking about it. He was baiting.
i for one cant wait until we see this guy in any thing new
I abandoned this general a while ago in the hopes it would stop being shit eventually.
Apparently I came back too early.
>>84265542
>Literally who?
How fucking new are you?
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jmUjxXd.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
If they ever came back and did another season of The Clone Wars and got to rewrite how the Obi-Wan vs Anakin duel went from Episode 3, do you think it would be a good thing for them to change it?
I love Anakin's character way more in The Clone Wars series and feel like Anakin wouldn't be so utterly blinded by rage and overconfidence like he is here to the point where he'd get in such a lousy position to be chopped in half, but I accept it as the canon story daddy George Lucas bestowed upon us. I want to see it played out a little differently. No matter what, Obi-Wan does in fact win and Anakin's charred body is put in the iconic black Vader suit.
>>84271105
That's nice
>>84271105
That's because it was nice until you showed up.
>>84271123
I don't think you understand; Obi-Wan had the higher ground.
>>84270846
>Star Wars is Star Wars
thred
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>>84271987
So there's someone just straight up named Jenny? Sounds very un-Star Wars-y.
>>84272016
Really? Luke sounds completely Star Wars-ey to you?
>>84272038
Main characters have unusual names typically that make them stand out...Luke does that for Star Wars, just sayin'
>>84269435
>Rey's the most OP character for no determinate reason
IT'S LIKE POETRY
Why was the Darth Nihilus fight so damn easy, fuck. I was expecting this guy to do some crazy force shit but he ended up being less impressive than the random Sith boss you fight on Taris.
why do people misunderstand midiclorians?
>>84273045
They haven't watched TCW ever, and haven't seen Phantom Menace in a decade at least, and thus get all their knowledge from Youtube videos of people who sound like they know everything, but are just as misunderstood.
I think I have seen a dozen posts on 4chan since TFA claiming that JJ retconned the Prequels by not mentioning Midichlorians.
>>84273045
>>84273217
We should have a pastebin going over what the midichlorians are and explains them thoroughly, that we can point people to who don't fully understand.
>>84273045
It's basically just the force but in measured terms, right?
>>84273246
Can we?
>>84273305
No.
If I could try explain it in the simplest way possible, I would say that it's a measurement of your current Force POTENTIAL.
The reason Anakin's was so high, despite no training, was because he was the Chosen One. His potential was already skyrocketed.
The misconception, is that it was a direct measurement, comparable to Dragonball Z powerlevels, which would make Anakin literally more powerful than Yoda.
On top of this, Midichlorians basically flock to Force-hotspots. That's the only reason Jedi are able to "measure" Force sensativity in the first place.
Now consider what Obi-Wan says in reaction to Qui-Gon telling him about Anakin's Midichlorians;
>That's even higher than Master Yoda!
Now most fans were too busy bitching about Anakin having a high Midi count, to realize the implication of Yoda ALSO having a high count. Yoda sure as shit wasn't born with it. It increased over time. As Yoda learned, and trained, he became stronger in the Force, and thus Midichlorians flocked to him.
So there, Midichlorians are not a direct measurement, but a more vague one, to let a Jedi know if there is potential enough to even train a kid. Anakin only had a high count from birth because Shmi activated the CH0S3N1 cheat code.
>>84273373
I'll quickly add that Midichlorians basically don't count past the initial training.
It was literally just supposed to tell Jedi if a kid is worth training or not. Past the initial Yes/No, I don't think Midichlorians really affect anything past that. It's all very much still about perseverance and dedication to make yourself better.
The Force is also unaffected. One of the major complaints is that it demystifies the Force, except (and it admittedly wasn't too clear in TPM) that isn't the case. TCW goes into it much further that there is a difference between the Living Force and Cosmic Force, and it's all very much still deep rooted in magical shit that can not be explained with Science.
It's not like the Jedi are Top Trump cards where they all have stats or anything like that.
>>84273362
Someone who's more knowledgeable when it comes to them should def do it!
>>84273427
If anything, I think midichlorians were almost an effective device to show how far gone the Jedi Order was. They were more concerned about a reading from a blood exam and following a three-line ancient prophecy than preserving the balance of the force and keeping order in the galaxy.
>>84265921
Before you play through KOTOR 2 (or afterwards), make sure you read http://lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-Old-Republic-II/
In fact, reading it may actually be more fun than playing the game. It's that good. It'll convince you that KOTOR2 is secretly the best written game to come out since Neverwinter Nights 2.
>>84273496
And bam, you bring us to the second half of this which is "Why would George include the Midichlorian-checking in the first place?"
You are absolutely 100% right. Some people might just say it was so Lucas could rush up an excuse to have Qui-Gon know about Anakin was strong in the Force, perhaps enough to be some prophecy kid. But if Lucas just wanted that, he could have easily gotten away with Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan just sensing it.
We KNOW from Luke that you don't need to pass blood tests, or train from a kid, to be able to be a successful Jedi. It's the dramatic irony to older fans that we know the Jedi are WRONG in their methods here. They've fallen lazy. Hell, thinking back on Obi-Wan's dialogue in ANH, we know Windu and Yoda not wanting Anakin trained is a mistake because we know Anakin becomes a great Jedi. The entire point of the methods of the Jedi we see, pretty much throughout the ENTIRE Prequel Trilogy, was to show how mistaken and vulnerable they actually were. Pretty much every decision the Jedi make is a mistake that leads them closer and closer into Sheev's hands.
(Retroactively, if you're watching in Chronological Order, you get to see Luke prove Yoda wrong, and have Yoda get the realization that Luke IS the Return of the Jedi. Works great both ways, bravo Lucas, poetry/10)
We were supposed to see this as the earliest seeds of the Jedi Council being weak and vulnerable to corruption. There was also the very on-the-nose introduction of Sheev, so we know who will be doing the corrupting. All of that was absolutely intentional, and planted the seeds for us fans to pick apart. But instead most everybody hated the very concept of the Midichlorians and sadly all the effort from Lucas was lost on the fans.
>>84272925
Because you're stronger by the time you fight him. That's just how all western RPGs work (as well as older JRPGS, but never mind that) At the start of the game you're a weakling who can be bested by a sickly old woman or her pet mouse and yet at the end of such a game you eat planets and shit out moons. So yeah, late game bosses that don't have a RPG mechanic-ignoring gimmick just can't challenge you anymore at that point.
>>84273246
I think we should just forget about midichlorians because they're never gonna pop up again and ultimately don't matter.
Chris Miller and Phil Lord are going to be at the future filmmaker discussion. I think that basically confirms Han Solo news. I hope we get less original trilogy and more Smuggler's Run. Han was such a bastard in that, first time I've liked the character
Has there been any indication of a new on-going after Vader ends? Or is it just going to be down to Star Wars, Poe Dameron, and Han Solo?
>>84274226
They might be saving an announcement for Celebration.
There's also the 5-part TFA adaption.
bump
>>84274226
I wanted an Ahsoka ongoing but that's probably not going to happen now that she's getting a book.
Aftermath Life Debt comes out next week.
Who's going to take the plunge?
>>84273810
>Smuggler's Run. Han was such a bastard in that
Memes aside, what did he mean by that?
>>84273721
This is why I love the Jedi during the prequels.
They're not the good guys they think they are.
>>84271987
>I'm literally trying to do this right now for Maz's castle to work out where a bunch of the characters identified in Lego Star Wars and Disney Infinity are. It's hard work I can't even find that black helmet stormtrooper from the Vanity Fair shoot.
>>84274724
Oops didn't mean to green text that.
>>84274545
cAnon
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>>84274226
Is Darth Vader ending soon? I haven't really been caught up on comic news.
Also, are Poe and Han ongoings? I thought they were minis
>>84274912
#25 is Vader's last issue.
>>84274822
>>84274827
>>84274840
these are great! What're they from?
Is Kylo going to get redeemed or is he going to die
Or both
>>84275104
The Galactic Atlas coming out later this year. Interesting to see they're using the ABY BBY system of dating again.
>>84275226
I hope he is redeemed, so Rey can take his place.
Which will lead to Kylo Ren killing Snoke.
What are people's opinions on the crew members from KOTOR 1?
>>84275226
I want Rey to slaughter him in Episode VIII which causes her to veer towards the dark side and Luke to abandon her.
>>84274822
By the looks of this, Onderon might end up being the planet shown off in Rogue One. Was it full of jungle and/or beaches in TCW?
>>84275231
These aren't necessary final.
>>84274822
>mapped, but largely unexplored
I'm okay with this interpretation. Always found the concept of an unmapped section of the galaxy silly.
>>84275231
Where do you see any dates?
>>84275353
Needed to use most of them more often. I often stuck with T3, Mission, and Juhani for the most part.
>>84275430
Sort of.
It was a crazy jungle with lots of colors and exotic plants.
>>84275463
>>mapped, but largely unexplored
But if the the unknown regions were still mapped, then the Resistance would have been able to crossreference the piece of Lukes map they got to find him. They never did need R2 if that's true.
>>84275353
I could tell you, or you could come to your own conclusions if you haven't played the game before.
>>84275531
It's pointless trying to find pirate treasure without the X marking the spot.
>>84275443
Yeah I assume that it'll get removed. The fact that they've applied it to new canon stuff like Dameron's parents gives me hope though. I'd like to see a dating system in use again.
>>84274822
Hosnian Prime seems to have moved since the TFA VD
>>84268492
TCW seemed like the perfect chance to do it, I'm shocked they hadn't considered it again until Rebels.
Then again, considering most TCW material outside of the actual show and Son of Dathomir ended up mixing Legends material with Canon and got the axe for it, its HoloNet News would have been swept away too
>>84275517
Amongst the Yavin stuff, it gives a date of 4 ABY for Dameron's parents settling on Yavin and a date of 0 ABY for the battle of Yavin.
>>84275571
But if you have the part of the treasure map with the X on you can just easily use that.
>>84275544
I have. I just started reading the KOTOR2 playthrough and the guy seems to not like Juhani, which surprised me. I almost always had her on my team after unlocking her, and thought she was really sympathetic.
So I just thought I'd ask.
>>84274680
Didn't Han gamble a planet against the Empire letting him escape?
>>84274912
Poe is ongoing, Han is mini
>>84275738
Not if the map only had the island where the X was without telling where it was located.
>>84274827
>Ahsoka sandwiched between Anakin and Vader
There's some sort of deep pottery happening here but my vision is too clouded to its meaning.
![AAEAAQAAAAAAAAgQAAAAJGM4NzFlNTI2LTllZDAtNGY2Yy05YWYxLTQyOTI2OTU0ZDEwNQ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QQILs7y.jpg "AAEAAQAAAAAAAAgQAAAAJGM4NzFlNTI2LTllZDAtNGY2Yy05YWYxLTQyOTI2OTU0ZDEwNQ[1].jpg")
>>84275811
There's more on that piece of the map than just one planet.
And seeing as that area is actually mapped, you crossreference with another complete map.
>>84275746
Well to me Carth is vid related Carth is vid related. In fairness, he did have backstory that I enjoyed, but it really brings me out of the action when he mentions his suffering every few minutes.
https://youtu.be/6Ymc_5dake0?t=2m20s
Juhani wasn't an interesting character. Nothing about her stands out to me.
Bastilla was alright, but one dimensional, and falls prey to the Bioware style of writing romance.
Canderous was cool. Not because he's a Mandalorian, but because he is one of the few members of the crew who has their opinion change over time.
Mission was fun, Zaalbar was not.
Jolee was everyone's favorite old crotchety Jedi, I enjoy his dialogue with Canderous. I often had them in a party together.
As much as I enjoy HK-47, I didn't have him my party often. It's true that has fun has his dialogue is along with his back story, he's pretty flat in KOTOR 1. I think he's way better written in KOTOR 2.
T3-M4 was just kind of there. I didn't really need to use him because I had his computer skills. But it's fun having an Astromech around.
>>84274827
Does this confirm that Shaak Ti died in canon?
>>84275353
The hardest decision I've had to make in my life is whether I want to plow Bastilla or Mission more. In the end I chose Mission, but it was a difficult choice.
>>84274822
>Abridged Anoat System
The Blockade must still have been up when this map was made
>>84271987
Damn, Swilla Corey is a qt.
>>84276216
>she was killed by Darth Vader during the Jedi Purge, as she meditated in the Temple.
Oh shit, how could I miss out on that.
I guess Shrodinger's Shaak Ti is no more.
>>84276574
>killed by Darth Vader
"Huh, so that's what murdering a Togruta feels like."
>>84276574
FUCK
>>84276574
Guess that scene was canon after all
>>84276574
>>84276216
I mean, I guess it is possible she made that Holocron as the Temple was attacked, and then meditated as she awaited her death?
I don't know, I think that kind of sucks, I hope this is just a slip-up and there is still a story to tell with her.
It is possibly just a slip-up, seeing as her being alive is an implication in a single comic issue that would go over the heads of most people. But it is also possible that this is her intended death after all.Someone ask Pablo.
>>84274912
Poe was initially ongoing, although some websites have since started listing it as only 5 issues long. I'm honestly not sure how long the comic can be, considering it was just supposed to be about the mission he took prior to TFA. So unless they jump ahead to a post-TFA story...
Han is confirmed 5 issues long.
Vader ends at the end of the current Story arc.
>>84274752
>>84274545
I have the book ordered, and will do my best to push through it and summarize anything important, so you guys don't have to.
>>84276765
>I have the book ordered, and will do my best to push through it and summarize anything important, so you guys don't have to.
based cAnon
>>84275893
There is no pottery, since the characters are just listed in last (or only) name alphabetical.
>>84276765
What other stories could be told with Shaak Ti?
>it only took Wendig 45 days to write Aftermath
No wonder it turned out so shitty
>>84275226
Kylo should get redeemed and survive this trilogy. Then he could be exiled and atone for his sins by wandering around and helping people in need, like a Ronin warrior.
>>84277535
It's just an excuse to avoid having a character die. Lots of people in this general got the headcanon that Shaak Ti could have died literally any way, since there were at least three "deaths" for her that never stuck. Now that she is apparently confirmed to have died in the second of the three manners, that takes away the possibility of the third death that had a whole story behind it. Some people just can't let go of possibilities.
>>84277554
I wonder if Disney/the story group/whoever regrets giving him a contract for three books after they saw how poorly receieved the first one was.
Can someone summarize Bloodlines for me? I can't get into it, but want to know what happens
So, curious question. Say you've been discovered by the Order and are due for induction. Would you prefer your career up to Knighthood took place in the era before or during the Clone Wars?
>>84277756
Before. I may not survive the end of the Clone Wars, but at least I'd have a chance at putting up a better fight.
>>84277756
Before, I don't want to fight in the Clone Wars and be targeted by the Seppies.
>>84277756
Before.
I hope canon sources go into the pre-Clone Wars era more. Or better yet, pre-TPM era.
>>84277756
Before. I don't particularly wanna fight in a war.
>>84277658
>First Order has it's claws in half of the Senators of the New Republic. Said Senators want to secede from the New Republic to avoid having it bring down their planets with stupid laws and such. The usual idiotic secession mindset.
>Leia is loved by the black market crime communities that hated Jabba's influence, since a hologram recording of her killing Jabba got circulated in the underworld. She's called the Huttslayer or some shit by them.
>Leia knows about Padme and a bit about Anakin at this point.
>Leia uncovers the hidden plot that the First Order tries using as a false flag to gain support.
>Leia (and Luke by extension) are revealed to have been related to Vader, aka Space Hitler. Their reputation in the Senate and politics in general is instantly shot down and destroyed. This allows the First Order to continue gaining influence because the Senate won't hear Leia's whistle-blowing out. Bail's reputation is also slightly damaged since he is part of the reason why this knowledge is released to the public.
>Leia starts the Resistance 6 years before TFA.
>Mothma is still alive but very ill. Lando is alive and well doing who knows what. Chewie is living on Kashyyyk while Han is off doing races in the galaxy. Ben and Luke are traveling the shitholes of the galaxy looking for old Jedi stuff.
>Ryloth isn't part of the New Republic, it's an independent planet, along with a good number of other unmentioned ones.
I've started watching Clone Wars
I love how the characters are designed.
Sweet Sheevus Christ, my local store was clearancing out the lego aisle. I snagged the Emperor's Throne Room set for 28 bucks. They also had the Stormtrooper transport with the four Stormtrooper figs for $3.25 each and had about seven boxes, so I army built a bit.
They also had the First Order Transport and Special Forces TIE Fighter for 32 bucks apiece, but I didn't. The only fig I wanted was Phasma, but they had deals on non-Star Wars stuff I won't go into.
Shit, go in for milk and eggs, end up leaving the store feeling like a damn kid. Now I want to buy the Lego Freemaker sets and combine them.
>>84278219
wat
Those are some crazy good deals Anon, lucky you!
>>84278219
Also bought this one just to add the half-built toilet to the Emperor's throne. See if I've got any Lego wrenches handy for the Royal Guard.
>>84273721
Nice explanation. Where did you get the force potential/midichlorians flocking to it changing over time?
>But instead most everybody hated the very concept of the Midichlorians and sadly all the effort from Lucas was lost on the fans.
nerds are retarded, more news at 11.
>>84278242
It's one of those weird stores that almost never has any good deals until they suddenly decide to mark stuff down 65-75% off. I just got lucky to actually be there when they still had stock!
I have the feeling I'll end up kicking myself over that TIE and Phasma one day. I keep telling myself since Phasma is in the next movie she'll be in a new set. Same with BB-8.
>>84277756
Before. I'd walk out during the Clone Wars.
>>84278200
It gets even better imo after season 3. Most of the characters get minor redesigns that I think are immediate improvements.
Also, is your trip new? I haven't seen it around. What do you do to contribute to the thread?
>>84278264
Guess it might help having a picture.
I didn't think I'd like the Freemaker series as much as I do. Really enjoying how they don't take it seriously at all and just have fun. Adding a toilet to the Emperor's Throne might be a bit more Robot Chicken though.
>>84278219
What store carries both dairy products and Star Wars Lego sets?
>>84278337
>>84278200
>another new tripfag
Thats fine, but please tell me you at least do something like the MEGA or anything to contribute to the thread.
>>84278346
If you really want the Phasma fig you could buy her separately from this page.
It's people selling pieces, figs and whole sets.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sw684&name=Captain%20Phasma&category=%5BStar%20Wars%5D%5BStar%20Wars%20Episode%207%5D#T=S&O={}
>>84278337
The Clone Wars Season 6 is where most of the information on the Force comes from
>>84278401
MEGAnon is actually respectful enough to only have his name on when talking about the Mega.
>>84278401
>>84278358
Been on this board since 2012.
>>84276818
>alphabetical
Aurebeshical
Also,
>implying pottery doesn't supercede writing systems
>>84277907
Thanks
>>84277796
>>84277817
>>84277834
>>84277872
I see we're of the relatively similar mind. While learning in the Clone Wars would no doubt give you a greater martial advantage over learners in peacetime, the greater complication of danger(and even death) is almost certain. Adventure and excitement
is pretty much a given, as well.
For you Beforers, would you rather be a learner in the Valorum or Palpatine years(before the Clone Wars, obviously)? In retrospect, this one is probably a foregone conclusion, but the divide is interesting. For reference, if you choose Valorum, your tenure will be much more traditional and in line with how an Apprenticeship will typically go, with one or two planetary disputes to settle. If you choose Palpatine, there'll be a little more of the same, though you'll probably come upon one or two random Sith conspiracies and end up having to play a larger negotiators role when the Separatist Crisis hits. There will probably also be more thwarting of intergalactic corporate entities trying to collect on dubiously legal affairs.
>>84278577
Valorum. I want my time as a Jedi to be as "safe" as possible.
>>84278392
What store doesn't? Even my local Walgreens pharmacy has an aisle with Lego and Walking Dead merch.
>>84278431
This is true, thanks!
>>84265564
KERNING MOTHERFUCKER, HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?!
>>84266604
>>84266426
Are we posting Ithorians? Because I want more Ithorians.
>>84278769
Ithorians are always great.
>>84278814
...pic seems vaguely erotic.
How does a mechanical battle station built from scratch have snow and trees? Are they artificial/simulated?
>>84270969
>i for one cant wait until we see this guy in any thing new
July 11th.
>>84278832
How? I really don't see it.
Tell me about Ithorians, /swco/.
I don't really know anything aside from that they can shout real loud and have heads that look like poopoo.
>>84271123
I think that if Clone Wars had run its complete arc between the production of Episode 3 and Episode 3, we would not have gotten the Episode 3 that we did.
(I realize that that's a fastuous and illogical statement, I'm just agreeing that Lucas would not have broad-stroked Anakin so hard.)
>>84278905
They have four throats.
Is that still canon?
>>84278861
>built from scratch
It wasn't, was it? I thought it was a planet converted into a weapon.
>>84278577
>>84278628
Now that I think about it I suppose the random Sith conspiracies would be more linked to Valorum's time than Palpatine, given Palpatine would be working much more behind the scenes to aid his gambit in sowing corruption and gridlock in the Senate.
>>84278861
They built the weapon into the planet. Hollowed it out and started construction.
![rep-starwarstheforceawakens.1080p.bluray.x264.mkv_snapshot_00.49.33_[2016.07.04_16.24.17].png](https://i.imgur.com/S1k5bKY.jpg "rep-starwarstheforceawakens.1080p.bluray.x264.mkv_snapshot_00.49.33_[2016.07.04_16.24.17].png")
>>84278861
Starkiller was built into a planet
>>84278952
>>84278992
>>84279013
My mistake. I assumed it was like the Death Star where they built it from the ground up.
How many times have you seen it?
>>84271987
You are now aware that Hem Dazon and Doikk Na'ts were seen hooking up in Ziro's gay bar.
>>84273373
>On top of this, Midichlorians basically flock to Force-hotspots. That's the only reason Jedi are able to "measure" Force sensativity in the first place.
They're an indicator species. Like how algae blooms can tell you about changes to the PH of lake water.
>>84279065
Once normally in theaters, once with rifftrax with a friend.
I thought the rifftrax would temper my rage and I STILL got in a rantfest with them during/after.
>>84274822
The galaxy has way fewer planets than I expected.
>>84279065
Twice.
>>84277535
>What other stories could be told with Shaak Ti?
Frozen in Carbonite and wakes up 500 years later and has to re-found the repeatedly obliterated Jedi Order.
She starts with one rule: "No Skywalkers."
>>84277756
A bit before. I'd choose a course other than Knighthood. (There are Jedi botanists and stuff, aren't there? The head librarian-lady wasn't a Knight.)
Then I'd book it to the Outer Rim during the Clone Wars.
>>84279065
Once, only in theaters. It doesn't have the Star Wars feeling that would compel me to go back for repeat viewings, even on home video. It's more of a one hit wonder.
>>84278392
Bagged, non-refrigerated milk. It's shelf stable.Canadian Hot Topics stock blind-bagged milk.
>>84278832
Be honest. Once you've been on 4chan long enough everything is.
>>84278927
...Ithorian porn must be amazing.
>>84278861
The planet was converted. In fact the planet was MAGICAL and that's why it was converted. The FO has solved the energy crisis forever with their harnessing Quintessence or Dark Energy and the crystals in the surface of the Starkiller Base planet just happen to resonate perfectly. So they mined out the planet and turned the whole thing into a weapon.
Fun fact, but the presence of the magical crystals in the surface makes people think it is Ilum, or that when people talk about the crystals they think the person is talking about Ilum. The snow obviously helps in the confusion. Nope, totally different magic crystal planet.
Of course NONE of that is in the movie, it's in the Visual Dictionary and probably the novelization. Didn't read the novel.
>>84279333
Really? I figure that the noises Ithorians make mid-climax would deafen most other sapients, so Ithorian porn is very niche and comes with it's own protective headgear for non-Ithorians.
Now Sy Snootles species, whoa momma.
>>84279254
Knighthood is kind of a requirement, as far as I know. After that, your career path is your choice.
Do you think the Priestesses from the Yoda arc used to be the Shaman of the Whills? It seems likely if this comic (based on his script) and the clone wars came from George. Filoni said he never asked whether they were one and the same so it's kind of left open I guess...
>>84279326
Why does no one ever cosplay as Ithorians?
All the girls want to be Twileks and all the boys want to be Bobba Fett!
>>84279381
It would be pretty damn interesting if it were Ilum. Unfortunately the new trilogy seems to have a strange phobia of showing planets and species that are not OC-do-not-steals.
>>84279065
4 times I think.
2 times at the cinema and 2 times at home.
Liked it the first time, liked it less the second time even less the next and so on.
>>84279065
Twice. First time watching it was great because I was excited and didn't pay much attention to detail but the second time I started to realise how many plot holes there were and how repetitive it got.
>>84279408
I still think it's pretty BS that if you don't make Knight they kick you out of the Order. There are so many jobs that would be perfect for a less than perfect Padawan. They don't have any artists or musicians. I mean imagine painting with the Force as your guide? Or philosophers? You may have a shit midi-chlorian count but surely you can philosophize. Or historians? But even their librarian is a badass ex-member of the Jedi Council.
>>84279611
Jedi service corps.
>>84279611
So I'd happily get my training, not take the knighthood tests and leave.
Shit, i can use the Force and have NO organizational responsibilities? I've got it made!
(I know that canon says that if you don't make knight they make you leave -- but I don't believe that statement. We NEVER hear about all the Padawans forced to leave the order getting into shit. That absence speaks volumes. Either it isn't happening, or Kit Fisto is hunting down Padawans on the sly for sport.)
![10911270_1596822857217173_7205596433806025770_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9TiHaUH.jpg "10911270_1596822857217173_7205596433806025770_o[1].jpg")
>>84279415
I had to search for some Ithorian cosplay, there was not a lot.
>>84279611
Not sure about Canon, but in the EU, you could stay at the Temple and do other jobs.
I remember a Jedi called Hestizo in Red Harvest who failed her trials, so she just became a gardener, and uses the Force to help the plants grow and shit.
And now that I think about it, there was the Jedi doctors seen in Season 6 of TCW, and Jocasta Nu is a librarian, so maybe there are jobs you can do if you don't become a Knight.
>>84279180
See, Tarkin didn't say a 'million' worlds, he said a 'milh-hion' worlds, 'milh-hion' being a term meaning 'a few dozen', a term that on Eriadu has a long history dating back...
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/07/updated-with-video-luke-skywalker-rocks-out-in-star-wars-episode-viii/
Possible spoilers obviously:"The strange part is that in concept art glimpsed around the location, suddenly Ahch-To has a binary sunset while Luke meditates. I’m thinking the concept art is implying that Luke sees this when in a meditative state because if the planet had two suns it would be a lot hotter than it is. Perhaps mentally going back to the twin suns of Tatooine centers the old Jedi?"
Mr Rian Johnson is going for some pretty darn good pottery, the mad man.
Video of the scene being shot, quality is shit but it's something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx0iH3GvIIc
>>84279657
The old one had that. It even had Coleman (that dinosaur dude Jango shot in the face) as more a statesman kind of sedate dude that hadn't used a saber offensively in ages but answered the call when Mace needed every Jedi he could muster.
Still they have to do something with people. I mean what do they do with those students who have an aptitude for the Force yet show signs of the Dark Side unbefitting a Jedi Knight? Like Anakin could have been time and time again.
>>84279680
The Anakin and Obi-Wan comic had a bit about Anakin wanting to leave and find himself. While Yoda pointed out that no one can be taught Jedi Ways that aren't a Jedi Obi-Wan was prepared to leave to remain with Anakin and, presumably, teaching him anyway outside of the organization. I thought that was curious. There's a whole slew of What-Ifs there! Most of them probably not very interesting, but definitely some potential
>>84279872
Please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck.
![Binary_Sunset[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/fdNz3i6.jpg "Binary_Sunset[1].png")
>>84279872
From the video, it looks like they're going for something like pic related. But on Ahch-To.
Rian Johnson the absolute mad man!
>>84279781
Jocasta Nu was once a member of the High Council. Becoming Librarian is like her retirement. Curiously despite once being a member of the High Council she doesn't have access to the restricted section, though you'd think being a Librarian who WAS a Council Member means she'd be perfect to tend it as well.
The healer, well, makes sense really since she specializes in some obscure techniques to help Force Sensitives. Regular doctors just wouldn't necessarily know, you know?
>>84279437
>It would be pretty damn interesting if it were Ilum.
It's been confirmed for a long time now that Starkiller Base is not Ilum.
>>84278861
I thought it was dumb how underutilized those walkers were. should have seen them firing at the Resistance from the ground.
>>84280053
I know, but I'm saying if it WERE, that would be an interesting twist.
>>84280080
I thought it was dumb how an entire planet's worth of materiel couldn't defeat thirty snubfighters
>what good are snubfighters going to be against that?
Quite a lot, apparently.
>>84279781
Rig Neema is a Jedi, and presumably they won't let you be a doctor if you don't graduate. At least I assume they don't say, "Sorry you failed your trials. Hey, we need someone to check Yoda for anal polyps, think you'd be any good at that?"
http://www.starwars.com/databank/rig-nema
Also of interest, her design is actually based on proto Mace Windu, before Jackson was cast. If the file name is to be believed it was also envisioned as a Dark Sider. Iain McCaig's work, too. I'm glad he's still working on the movies, and I hope he's less hamstrung as he appeared to be under JJ.
I also love how Filoni loves grabbing old concept art and reusing it, whether it's Talzin derived from Darth Maul concept art or Fifth Brother from a Knight of Ren.
Would somebody mind summarizing Tarkin for me? I don't think I'll read it but I'm curious as to what happens in it.
>>84280092
It could have been but I'm glad it wasn't. Nice to know some things survived, however I seriously doubt Emperor Palpatine just let it sit there so I somehow doubt it had a happy ending. He either mined it for Kyber resources or it was on his shit list in case of his death like destroying Naboo was.
>>84279164
How badly do they rip it apart?
>>84280159
>Tarkin has a ship called the Carrion Spike
>He REALLY loves this ship
>No seriously, it's the raddest ship ever, it's based on that ship that could go invisible in TCW
>But then some scum steal it
>So he hunts the fuckers down
>Sometimes he gets distracted and starts rambling about how tough his childhood is on Eriadu
>Then he decides to trap the thieves by using the first ever Interdictor to catch it
>It goes wrong, and hundreds of ships get dragged out of hyperspace and crash
>But Tarkin gets his ship back
>Sheev thought it was brilliant, and promotes Tarkin to Grand Moff
Based Tarkin.
>>84280159
Tarkin is called back from constructing the Death Star after a surprise attack by insurgents on its construction base, and teams up with Darth Vader to deal with palace politics and machinations as he tries to unravel this new strange insurgency's goals and motives.
>>84280159
Wilhuff Tarkin was born into the wealthy Tarkin family on a hostile wilderness planet known as Eriadu. The Tarkins helped settle Eriadu and form a military. Wilhuff took these history lessons to heart and his parents made sure that he knew that respect, discipline and obedience were of the utmost importance. He was taught combat and aerial skills and how to survive at a young age.
During his time in the military, Wilhuff decoded the pattern in the Q'anah's Marauders attacks, Tarkin captured their ship, launching it on a slow course into a sun. Any ships sent to rescue the crew were destroyed on sight. At the age of nineteen Wilhuff began designing his own ships.
Tarkin attended the Sullust Sector Spacefarers Academy where he met Sheev Palpatine. Palpatine offered to help him secure a place in the Republic's Judicial Academy, but asked him to consider a career in politics. Tarkin turned down the request for politics, but took the spot at the Academy.
After a mission to the world Halcyon alongside a group of Jedi Willhuff Tarkin's skills and leadership brought the group to safety after their leader disobeyed direct orders. When they arrived the Jedi had just completed the mission. Tarkin was credited with saving their lives. As he continued to build a name for himself, Tarkin saw that conflicts throughout the galaxy were increasing, and turned his mind to Palpatine's advice to enter politics.
After hunting down the thieves who stole his ship, The Carrion Spike, Wilhuff Tarkin is promoted to Grand Moff by Palpatine and becomes the overseer of the Empire's newest weapon, The Death Star.
>>84280245
You left out the part where Vader is told repeatedly to ask Tarkin why he named it the Carrion Spike and when he finally does we get this painfully long, rambling anecdote about him fucking around in the wilderness because this is a Tarkin family tradition and how he killed the alpha monkey and suddenly all the other monkeys left him alone
>>84274827
>No Barriss Offee
>No Rex
>Anakin and Darth Vader being separate
>Even Lobot aka THAT GUY gets a spot
>>84274840
>BBY & ABY being in use again
>>84280324
They never quit using them
>>84280324
Lobot is the truest of bros, I will fight you
>>84280360
Yes they did. Nucanon uses either Empire Day or Sheev being raised Supreme Chancellor as Year 0.
>>84280360
>They never quit using them
They actually did. Kind of funny to see them back in use though, since Pablo has said he doesn't really like the system being used in-universe since he doesn't feel it's realistic for the entire galaxy to base their calendar on the destruction of the Death Star as opposed to the defeat of the Emperor or the founding the Empire or something else much more concrete.
>>84280313
He didn't kill the alpha monkey. The beta monkey led a coup on the alpha monkey, killing it, then Tarkin killed the beta monkey, and none of the other monkeys knew what to do.
>>84280446
Ah, that's right. It's been a while, all I remember clearly is that it was long, boring and completely killed the book's momentum.
>>84280483
>I remember clearly is that it was long, boring and completely killed the book's momentum
Just like every flashback the book has. It would be a much better book if Luceno knew when to stop giving the reader history lessons. The Carrion Spike monkey story at least serves a purpose in that it shows us where the beginning of Tarkin's use of fear as a weapon came from (even if it is way too long and overly detailed), but the random detours to discuss Eriadu's history are the worst.
>>84280446
Hey, that's what happened with Vader and Sheev, and the Empire post-RotJ.
Poetry.
>>84280483
Thankfully the book wasn't very long. It was nice to get more Tarkin, but it definitely was a dreary read with a lot of pace-breaking flashback chapters.
>>84280524
I liked them, but I completely understand why I would be in the minority there.
>>84280598
The biggest problem with them as that he drops them just as the book is building momentum. It destroys it each time, so the book's pacing is horrible.
>>84280692
Is it too late to fire Wendig and have Claudia Gray write this?
>>84280692
Ugh!
>>84280745
I genuinely am wondering if its too late to replace him or cancel the 3rd book entirely.
Is that possible if this book doesn't sell enough? Either way there is no way they are giving him more work after this trilogy, right?
>>84279657
Be a Padawan. Sure you'll be a super cool Jedi Knight one day and have all kinds of really awesome adventures and even the fate of the galaxy will one day rest on your shoulders!
Then your Master comes up and tells you you failed your trials, but hey that's okay there just happens to be a new position open for cashier at the Jedi Temple gift shoppe.
One day you see all your friends who of course are all Jedi Knights now. They wave at you and it's nice to know they still care...until you realize they're trying to mind trick you. You testily shout that that doesn't work on you, that you still have the Force as your price guide, dammit, but too late you realize while you were distracted one of them TK'ed your trousers around your ankles. Right in front of this female Padawan you had a crush on for years.
On that day you leave the Temple behind, take to the stars, find a world of original red Sith species, then descend upon it like a one-person Mandalorian warband. You conquer the planet, break it, and then tame it with your penis until the original Red Sith genes are nearly extinct. Then and only then do you rise with your new followers to the stars and conquer the galaxy. And just when you are about to bend the Jedi Council over your knee, that's when your Apprentice uses the Force to pull down your trousers and then cuts your head off as everyone laughs at you.
>>84279409
Filoni said they were actually one being that split its consciousness after eons as a ghost. Would fit it being a singular shaman, then.
>>84280843
>>84279657
>>84279892
Does anyone have that awesome fanfic about a Jedi Service Corps guy who gets attacked by bandits or something?
Did another story called "Korriban Nights" I THINK.
>>84280843
The first recorded example of the infamous power games of the Sith
It's a wonder they ruled the galaxy at all
>>84280245
>>84280251
>>84280282
Thanks, guys.
>>84280801
Do you think Disney regrets signing him on to a three book contract?
>>84280745
>>84280801
>>84281047
He's a Marvel writer now
>>84280745
Considering it's being released in one week, yes. They are probably all printed and being shipped out to stores right now.
>>84280801
Empire's End is already being written or may be even done already. It's too late for them to change him out for the third book, or just cancel it entirely.
>>84279992
>you'd think being a Librarian who WAS a Council Member means she'd be perfect to tend it as well.
Maybe the Restricted Section had been declared 'extra hot' due to the imbalance in the force, and they were keeping former council members in the dark in regards to it?
The only ones we saw discussing it were Yoda and Windu, in very hush-hush terms. I think the Council was keeping it close to the chest.
>>84281047
Not sure. Reviews haven't been good but I'm assuming Aftermath sold well, not necessarily because of Wendig but because it was the biggest of the Force Friday books and as the first book of the new post-ROTJ era, it was a major step in the new canon.
We'll see how well Life Debt sells now that it doesn't have the same hype to push it and people are now aware of what they're getting when they see "Chuck Wendig" on the cover.
>>84280948
I actually prefer the Priestesses as a fractured persona, each living their own independent life. But that said I'm sure Filoni only said that's how he envisioned them, so it's a kind of not-very-firm word of god. He's done that before when talking about Mortis, saying the way to approach it for the writers was he said to think of it like a Force vision.
Anyway I don't think what he said is absolute canon. We can argue it, but I think he's just giving his take on it instead of saying what the canon is because despite how high up he was in the project the word of god was still George's so I think that's why he offers his take but doesn't say that is exactly how it was.
I'm not trying to nitpick or argue, this is just something that popped into my head when I was reading the thread and thought it worth saying. There's obviously a lot Filoni CAN say about the canon, but the big questions about the nature of the Priestesses or Mortis he seems much more careful. I could be wrong! I just always saw him as avoiding saying definitively because TCWs was still George's baby.
I'm curious what others thing.
>>84281047
Since he somehow got the writing credit for the TFA comic adaptation, I don't think they do, at least not yet. Hopefully Life Debt and Empire's End sell poorly enough that they realize how bad of a writer he is.
>>84280745
>Is it too late to fire Wendig and have Claudia Gray write this?
Okay, you have a choice between Scott Ciencin and Ryder Windham.
>>84281125
That's very likely the answer. They definitely upped security in the Temple and even had clone troopers and war machines! That honestly shocked me in the temple bombing arc. I mean it made sense given they were generals but just the notion that they had weapons of war inside their sacred temple... It's weird. Sure they have laser swords but those are supposed to be weapons of keeping the peace, right?
One of those things that made it easier to sympathize with Barriss, or at least understand what might have set her off.
>>84281239
Jedi are Jedi KNIGHTS, they've always been a martial order.
All Jedi Padawans receive full weapons and vehicle training. You think a starfighter isn't a weapon of war?
>>84280159
Tarkin's being commended by the Emperor on a successful raid of Rebel base when he gets a call from Eriadu. He hasn't gotten an communication from there in decades, so he takes the call in his private quarters.
Turns out it's a message from his cousin, who tells him his Aunt's on her death bed an if he wants to see her, he should come quickly.
Tarkin's Aunt was an inspiration to him growing up and was proud of his quick rise through the ranks in the days of the Republic but disagrees with the Galactic Empire. She's also an alcoholic and a drug addict, so there's this mutual embarrassment on Tarkin's part where he a) ashamed of his Aunt's addiction and hopes nobody important in the Empire finds out and b) is ashamed that he's letting her down by working for the Empire.
He resolves that he should see her before she dies but doesn't have time to make plans right away.
Sheev presents him with another mission, to inspect a potential new source of kyber crystals on an Mid Rim world which shouldn't take too long. He hesitates briefly, but dutifully accepts.
When they get there, things go smoothly for the first few hours until their research base falls under blaster fire. Initially, Tarkin suspects rebels but there's no report of Rebel activity anywhere near this sector. A group of stormtroopers are sent out inspect the forest the fire came from and return a few hours later.
As they're being let through, they kill the troopers at the gates and a couple dozens Clone troopers storm the station.
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>>84281311
The clones had been dropped onto the planet right at the end of the Clone Wars, Black Ops style, in order to foil a seperatist plot. They were camped in the dense forest, awaiting the signal to attack, but with Order 66, the death of the Separatist leadership and all the other chaos, it never came, and they had remained on the planet, thinking the Clone Wars raged on.
They attack Tarkin's base, thinking them Separatists and taking him and the other researchers hostage, refusing to believe what has happened in the intervening years.
The leader of the Clones is named Tally (so called because he tallies each kill on his armor), he's charismatic for a clone and has development something of a cult of personality among his men. When Tally uses the station's communication rig to contact Republic command and receives no response, he becomes violent and starts executing the researchers. When the clones begin to accept that the War has been over for years, some rebel against Tally, others take their own lives. As the situation unravels, Tarkin gains a clone called Buck's trust by swapping old Clone War stories and is able to send a distress signal out.DarkTrooperseventually storm the base, killing all the Clones including Tally and Buck.
As Tarkin returns to report to the Emperor, Sheev gives him a dressing down and expresses his disappointment. Tarkin contacts his cousin to arrange a visit to Eriadu but his Aunt has already died.
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>>84281284
No Starfighters are for picking up hot alien chicks
