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Why is Flash better than Eddie in every possible way?
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Why is Flash better than Eddie in every possible way?
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He fought for the USA!
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>>84261365
I know this probably bait but, I like them both. I also hope we don't go back to status eddie quo.
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>>84261399
Me too.

I want Eddie to come back as Anti-venom and stay that way.
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>>84261386
FUCK YES

USA USA USA USA USA
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>>84261431
I agree, I liked anti-Venom a lot.
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>>84261365
I'd say that Flash added more depth to the role of Venom and made for some better stories before Bendis got his claws on him
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>>84261431
>>84261482
That would be really nice actually.
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>>84261431
I didn't like Anit-Venom. It was shit, but I just wanted something more. Not an OC venom. I like Brock Toxin.
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>>84261431
>>84261482
>>84261590
He did. Read the ongoing Carnage series.
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>>84261651
I do. It's one of the best comics marvel has right now. But he's Toxin, not Antivenom, and he's barely allowed to even use the symbiote.
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>>84261599

>I like Brock Toxin

Fuck that. It came at the cost of Pat Toxin
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>>84261732
I confused their name. My bad. Still he is based.
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>>84261365
>guns
i guess it's over its weakness to loud noises eh
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Patrick Mulligan didn't die for Flash to be relevant for starts
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>>84261732
>>84261782
Between toxin and anti venom who has a better design?
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>>84262192
Anti-Venom
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>>84262192
Anti-venom, easy.
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>>84262192
anti-venom.
Still Toxin's new suit with dem Liefeld pouches looks good.
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>>84261365
>Why is Flash better than Eddie in every possible way?

HAHA NO. Nothing post-2000 Marvel has done has been anything but shit.
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>>84261651
you mean the current Carnage books where they retconned him into a confederate-obsessed redneck? No thanks. He's a native New Yorker, not a subhuman /pol/ shit.
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>>84262713
being followed by stronk vomins doesn't mean he is /pol/. And he is a serial killer.
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>>84261365

Because he's not a cunt...anymore.
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>>84262613
I don't like his mouth in his current look. It just looks kinda weird for some reason.
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>>84264543
>Implying
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>>84264908
I really liked how the spider is crawling off of him here
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>>84261365
every time someone posts this costume it makes me sad because it is not Black Tarantula.
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>>84264908
I love that artist. Checchetto, right?
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>>84265084
Yup.

Any other comics he worked on you'd recommend?
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>gun based hero that isn't Punisher
>good
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>>84265591
Why do you insist on giving Punisher fans a bad name?
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>>84265635
No, the concept of "gun heroes" is lazy as fuck.
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>>84265591
He was a soldier
He uses rubber bullets and regular bullets
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>>84265718
So its War Machine but with Venom.
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>>84265581
Solid Frank is pretty dope.
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>>84265748
Fuck yeah, it is.

If we're going to boil down every character to their base gimmick then capeshit's got a lot to answer for in that case. Originality in terms of powers isn't exactly the Big Two's strongest aspect anymore.
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>>84265748
He actually wins his fights
K tnx bye
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>>84265748
What part of that doesn't sound radical?
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>>84261365
TACTICOOL GARBAGE
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>Space Knight ending soon with Flash Back on Earth
>Around the same time it'll end we get Murrica Avengers

Flash Venom and his edgy sidekick as recurring team helpers when?
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>>84265942
I wish I gave a shit about Marvel comics because that looks pretty cool.
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>>84265942
that cover looks like shit.
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>>84265991
>Venture Bros Marvel
>shit
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>>84266017
honestly don't know anything about these guys in the cover and the Venture Bros
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>>84265907
Name a better garbage than Tacticool
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>>84265942
That cover is American as fuck
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>>84265942
Comic about Flash signing Mania up for the military to learn self-control and sticking around as her mentor when?
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>>84261365
looks boring

what if he looked more like mass effect though
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>>84262713
Did you make that thread earlier?
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Agent Venom is shit, it's literally like something only a 12 year old boy would like.

OK LETS TAKE AN ALREADY EDGY BUT GOOD DESIGN....AND UH, OOOH OOOH I KNOW, SPIKES! SPIKEY SHOULDER PADS ARE METAL! AND UH.....MAKE HIM MORE LIKE DEADPOOL, LIKE A NINJA! FUCK YEAH! OH, AND GUNS....LOTS OF GUNS, CAUSE SUPER POWERS ARE COOL...BUT EVEN COOLER WHEN YOU USE GUNS ANYWAY CAUSE FUCK YEAH!

Horrible, design wise they basically just took Venom, Deadpool, and Punisher and threw them in a blender....he was created to satisfy people with a very specific type of tism, aka Shadow The Hedgehog fans
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>>84261365
Eddie was the better villain Venom, Flash made for the better hero Venom.
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>>84267805
Now include the part where it's well written and uses the Flash and Venom as actual characters and you realize all that shit doesn't matter.

Also design wise I'm pretty sure the deadpool look is the natural result of spiderman + guns
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>>84267910
>Now include the part where it's well written

It isn't well written. Once upon a time, it was decently written sure.

But this means literally nothing, literally any character can have good stories if talented and passionate people are writing them.....what's more important is concept and design. You could take a character who's power is turning into a living hunk of fecal matter and a talented person can write a good story about it

>and uses the Flash and Venom as actual characters

I don't read much DC. Also, every single bit of "development" they gave to the symbiote's character has wrecked it. It's character was perfect before, now it's contrived bullshit.
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>>84267805
Except it actually made sense that a shape shifting alien costume creature would take on a form that the host was comfortable with. In this case, Flash is a soldier so his ideal look as a soldier is, well as a soldier. I personally love the look for actually being something unique for a change rather than just the generic bulky brute look that all the previous hosts had. Bendis of course ruined that with the current look though
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>>84265942

What the fuck is going on with that tank?
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>>84261399
Flash has stuck for so long and is actually popular. We might have to wait until someone who read Brock Venom as a little kid to become a writer for him to return.
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>>84261365
My dream Venom movie actually has Flash as Venom with Eddie as a semi-mentor recovering drug addict type who warns him about the symbiotes effects, and becomes Anti-Venom in the sequel.
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>>84269037
To each his own. But I'm wondering if I can get my new character published in Marvel, he's called Demon Carnage, much more extreme than the old look kids should love it
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>>84269178
>carnage the hedgehog
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>>84269214
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>>84265942
Who's that semen demon in the Iron Patriot suit.
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>has a symbiote
>uses guns

yeah....hell, why doesn't superman just tote around a rocket launcher? sure would make his job easier

come to think of it, why doesnt green lantern just use his ring to pull triggers on guns instead of making those dumb constructs?
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>>84269430
A really bad OC, like all of modern Marvel.
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>>84269430
Toni Ho Yinsen, daughter of the guy who helped Stark make his first suit of armor when he was a captive.
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>>84269448
I don't care, I wanna fuck it.

>>84269450
Gotta keep dem MCU characters relevant somehow, I guess.
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>>84269448
Did you just call creating an actual character published officially, created for a comic an OC
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>>84265942
It's like they really don't want males to like comic books anymore...
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>>84261365
I liked the demon stuff. I thought it was neat.
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>>84269673
What?
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>>84261365
he's not an edgy idiot.
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>>84269824
Yes he is.
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>>84265942
That is by far the most Liefeldian comic book cover I have seen since 1993.
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>>84269836
only for the first issues.
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>>84265942
>little ~kawaii~ girl inside giant suit or with giant weapons

I'm really really sick of this meme.
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Post more Venom.
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>>84269437
Because you can't fucking shoot somebody with a Symbiote. Unless the suit can somehow generate and fire bullets like the webs, which it probably can't because it never has.
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Yeah it's been done before, didn't need to be done again.
Flash is a redundant zilch of a character with zero originality.
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>>84269894
You're missing the fucking point. You don't need guns when you have fucking super strength, speed, agility, and fucking alien tentacles
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>>84269971
it really is stupid...it's spawn levels of pointless edginess
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>>84265942
who's the white metal beauty???
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>>84270166
Pod slim
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>>84261365
because you're a millennial with shitty taste

go fap to spider-gwen garbage, kiddo
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>>84261365
Sadly he has the stink of Bendis on him, and that shit don't wash off.
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>>84270202
>>84270166
aww, i was hoping it's a robot
turns out it's another chick in metal armor
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>>84267805
The design makes perfect sense. He was a football player, a soldier, and Spide-rman's number one fan. What did you think you were gonna get?
>>84268192
What do you mean once upon a time? It was well written the whole way through. Sure, I think the demon stuff slowed it down quite a bit, but it was still good. And Spaceknight is nowhere near as great as it was, but it's still pretty good too.
>>84269178
I mean, Carnage is meddling around with some Cthulu type magic at the moment.
>>84269437
>>84269971
Why not have guns? I do agree they're a little redundant with the rest of his powers, but that doesn't mean they're useless.
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>>84261365
Holy fuck, OP. I just got triggered so hard. 10/10 bait.
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>>84262192

Anti-Venom, Toxin looks stupid as fuck
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>>84270474
>The design makes perfect sense
That doesn't make it good. It's pretty much the epitome of the tacticool meme, it's basically the modern equivalent of how far Spawn took 90s edge...but more obnoxious because at least Spawn was somehow less of a rehash of pre existing ideas, and he was basically just Venom+Ghost Rider
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>>84270559
I mean, ya it's blantantly tacticool, but I think I think tacticool can be fine if it makes sense, and for this character, it does.

I love Agent Venom's design, and so do a ton of other people.
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>>84264939
that's a badass detail
I wish they did things like that more
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>>84270632
>I love Agent Venom's design, and so do a ton of other people.

Ton of other people love Blacktain America, Squirrel Hurl, and Whor as well, doesn't mean shit.
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>>84270705
Fair enough, but he's at least been popular enough to last for 4 years now.
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>>84261365
Objective Best Hosts
Eddie- Anti-Venom
Cletus - Carnage
Flash - Venom
Pat - Toxin
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>>84270737
How long was Gargan Venom again? He was shit, everyone knew he was shit, but it allowed Marvel to use Venom as a generic evil guy for a while.....Agent Venom is just a new meme

>>84270838
Eddie will always be the true Venom, this new guy is just a Flash in the pan

Also Anti-Venom was stupid, Eddie was based while Anti-Venom but the concept of Anti-Venom is retarded.
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He stinks and I don't like 'em
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>>84269971
Gotta make it interesting to the normies somehow.
Normies love guns tacticool looking military stuff.
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>>84266182
>>84265942

Not wanting Flash and Kaine to move in to a house together and help each other with Mania and Hummingbird.
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>>84270902
>Eddie will always be the true Venom
In 5-7 years Eddie's time as Venom in 616 will be shorter than the time he hasn't had the symbiote.
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>>84272083
So? Ask any casual fan on the street, who is Venom's real name? They will say "Eddie Brock", the character Venom is Eddie Brock...not Scorpion Venom, not Agent Venom, just Venom. When people buy any of the tons of Venom logo merchandise, they are thinking of classic Venom, not any other version.

Capcom even opted out of including Venom at ALL in Marvel vs Capcom 3, because they would have had to use Agent Venom and they know most people don't care about him, while Venom at this point is an iconic character and one of Marvels most recognizable and classic regardless of how the mantle has been treated in the comics, which, most people do not read or care about
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>>84272130
That's mostly because he's been in a whole lot of cartoons, video games and other things of that nature.
Of course he'd be more popular, he has far more exposure.
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>>84261460
>implying a soldier that went AWOL loves his country

Eddie is the true patriot.
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>>84272177
Pretty sure Captain America has went AWOL before, are you saying that Cap is unpatriotic?
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>>84269971
The guns allow him to shoot multiple projectiles at a significantly faster rate and a greater distance than he'd be able to send his alien tentacles.

Also he could use different bullets for different situations, it's like the organic vs mechanical webshooter argument. Specialized bullets for different criminals.
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>>84272159
He's popular because he's the original. You cannot tell the Venom story without Eddie Brock.

Sam might be the new Captain America...he could be for the next decade, he could be pushed to high hell....

But the first thing anybody thinks about when they think of "Captain America" will always be Steve Rogers.

Ask someone who the leader of Decepticons is.....they will ALWAYS say Megatron, even though he currently isn't in any of the current fiction.
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>>84272185
Does he know what NASCAR or MySpace are yet?
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>>84272177
Eddie is also better than Flash because Eddie is not purely good like Flash. Flash is a horrible mix for a character named Venom. He's always destined to succeed in everything when it's more interesting to watch a character who can never seem to find their way.
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>>84272191
Why doesn't he just...use his super powers to beat them up.

Flash may as well be an all original character and not much would change, they could have given him robotic body parts to go with the tech theme....they could have given him some new form of the super soldier serum that also grew back his legs, they could have had him use a new version of the Lizard formula and made him a new original reptillian super hero

Why did they give him the symbiote? Because people will buy something called VENOM, no reason other than that.
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>>84272194
>He's popular because he's the original
That's some real shitty thinking you've got going there.
I guess Jay Garrick must be the most popular Flash then, and Alan Scott is the most beloved GL too.
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>Flashfags mad because their Punisher light doesn't get enough merchandise and media appearances than Brock

It's never gonna happen, Brock Venom is a Marvel icon and has been for years even though he hasn't actually been Venom in a number of years. He popped up everywhere in Secret Wars and even in Contest of Champions.
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>>84272257
>Eddiefags throwing an autistic fit because some people prefer a different character
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>>84272234
That's different, those characters were not nearly as iconic as the ones who came after them.

Venom was an instant hit, if they made a new Scorpion or Electro nobody would really care and a new guy assuming the mantle could EASILY become more iconic than the originals there because they never resonated with a lot of people, their story was never that interesting to too many people, and few people would cite them as a "favorite character", this is not the case for Venom
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>>84272266
Claiming an unpopular character is popular is pretty autistic, anon.
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>>84272266
The point of this thread was a Flashfag trying to start a fight, don't pull that card you fucking stooge.

I don't care if people like Flash, but when someone makes a thread like this I feel very compelled to voice against them....if this thread was simply titled "I like Flash", I would not even enter it

Not that guy btw
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I initially thought this was a DC flash thread and Eddie was Eddie thawne. Silly me.
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>>84272296
I wasn't though, I was just saying why Eddie is more popular.
Seriously, look at the number of video games the guy has been in. It's actually a pretty big number.
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I hate how divided the symbiote fanbase is. You have those that only want to see the symbiote with Peter, Eddie, Mac, or Flash and those that want to see it with a girl purely for fetish reasons.
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>>84272352
>Mac

In his very first appearance as Venom Spidey basically called him a poser, that he'll never be A list, and dropped a building on him

The whole thing was practically a joke and just an excuse to have Venom be a big evil guy again
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>>84272387
I hear ya, but there are those people that liked him because he let the symbiote run wild for maybe two issues in Thunderbolts before being drugged up in the Dark Avengers. It was a huge mistake by Marvel that's never been brought up since. They probably would've gave the symbiote back to Eddie if Mac didn't get wrapped up in those team books.
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>>84270705
See the thing is Flash and Agent Venom are written better than all three
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>>84261365
prenom/vendator is better
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>>84272257
Agent Venom is pretty big right now. Worked for a toy company it's the only venom they had on shelves.
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>>84261732
didn't toxin die in the first flashvenom run
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>>84272499
No, he was killed off-screen.
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Flash Venom and Anti-Venom > 90% of Eddie's time as Venom. 90s Venom is such a clusterfuck
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>>84272439
Even if something like Whor was actually well written, she would still never replace the real Thor as far as public perception or fan love goes, which is more the point I was getting at. I read some of Agent Venom shit, and I'll even admit it wasn't badly WRITTEN, that is not the issue here

As I brought up earlier in the thread, writing is inconsequential because ANY character can be written well or poorly, the best characters can be written like garbage and the worst can be written well, it really doesn't matter.
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>>84272581
>90s Venom is such a clusterfuck

How?
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>>84272497
Probably because all the Marvel Legends Venoms were already bought, no one buys Agent Venom Ultimate Spider-Man merch or USM merch for that matter.
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>>84272706
Yeah, by one person so that he could scalp them online.
Then there's the stores that never got the wave with Venom and are still selling absorbing man bullshit.
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>>84272497
>Worked for a toy company it's the only venom they had on shelves.

Us suffering from Transformers brand autism call that a "shelf warmer", and if it's an indication of popularity then this chucklefuck is one of the most popular Transformers of all time
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>>84272808
>Not posting Bumblebee
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>>84272827
Sorry, all this Venom debating has my 90's showing
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what did you read to love Flash so much? Those Thunderbolts,GotG or the new ongoing garbage? It is not enough for me I think.
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>>84272929
Remender's run.
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>>84264908
As fucked up as this was it was hilarious
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>>84272929
Venom 2011 from start to finish is pretty great. The best part is from Remender but the rest is OK too.
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>>84273223
>>84273613
completely forget about that stuff. maybe I will check them out.

Too bad the other series he was/still in is so bad.
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>>84272929
His own ongoing by Remender.

The Cullen Bunn stuff was good too. Not great, but leaps and bounds above the Bendis shit, and more engaging than WACKY AA MEETINGS IN SPACE.
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>>84270902
Why do you think the concept of Anti-Venom was retarded? I think it was a great idea to get crazy anti-hero Eddie back.
>>84272130
>>84272194
You're arguing it because of casuals? Of course casuals think of Eddie. That's all they know. Outside of comics, Flash only is in the shitty ultimate spider-man cartoon and has some toys for that cartoon. Eddie's been in a ton of media, and people grew up with him.
>>84272207
>He's always destined to succeed in everything
Alright, so you clearly have not read much of Agent Venom then, and are just arguing for the sake of "muh venom"
>>84272387
That was Angelo Fortuno, not Mac. But Mac was still terrible.
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>>84273946
>You're arguing it because of casuals?
He's probably that same faggot that tried arguing for changing Wally's superhero name from the Flash.
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>>84273976
not any of those anons but that thread was autistic as hell.
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>>84274020
>All that "his name should be changed because it's confusing", "Wally is just living in Barry's shadow" and "Barry is the REAL Flash so Wally needs to change his name" shit
It really was.
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>>84269448
>reminder that batman, spiderman, and every other comic character is an OC
Not counting anything from Amalgamation
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>>84269673
>sunspot team leader
You're just sexist an that blinds you.
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>>84270236
Pod is both
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>>84271512
He took that guy's pizza!
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>>84273946
Flash is boring, every obstacle he has in his way is always waved off because he's supposed to be a big hero. That's why Space Knight is boring, it's Flash being purely a Mary Sue hero which makes for a dull read. It's only gotten interesting because it's finally gotten Venom involved. Brock is interesting as a tragic hero/villain because he's not tied down to be destined as a hero.
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>>84272226
It's because he's Spider-Man's Number One Fan ya doink.
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>>84269958
I thought all the dinosaurs died, but it looks like one stuck around.
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>This thread
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>>84272827
... but BumbleBay actually IS one of the most popular Transformers of all time
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>>84270705
This is obvious bait.
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>>84274310
Then why does he shelfwarm so hard?
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>>84270902
You never read Flash Venom did you
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>>84274213
Like I said, you obviously haven't read much of Remender's run. The entire thing was about him dealing with his inner demons, with the symbiote representative of that. Remember, his dad died, his girlfriend left him, he started drinking again, and more. It was all about him struggling against the symbiote's corruption.

It's also why I enjoy Spaceknight, because it actually allowed him to be the big hero he's always wanted to be, without the symbiote holding him back. It was nice for a little, and now I'm happy it looks like we're going back to classic Agent Venom.
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>>84272266
This. I didn't know Eddie fans were this crazy.
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>>84274392
I'm confused as shit by the Mary Sue comments in this thread. Remender's first volume or two weren't exactly friendly to Flash and he sure as shit wasn't destined to be a hero. I guess you can't really argue with someone that hasn't read the comic though.
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Let's settle this

http://www.strawpoll.me/10671073
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>>84274392
I'm really looking forward to Flash going back to Earth and seeing Mania again.
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>>84274465
Venom is such an abusive waifu.

Also the answer to your poll is Mayday, because hooking up with the daughter of your true love is hilariously sexy.
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>>84274213
What?

He got shit on constantly in AV. He truly was a piderman

Flash can barely do anything right
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>>84274463
Read Space Knight. He's a complete Mary Sue. Never makes any mistakes, boring all around. Bringing up his past in a flashback doesn't make him interesting.
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>>84274465
>Flash listed before Eddie

I already see where this is going.
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>>84274465
Remender's run was so good.
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I'm so confused with all these "you've never read Agent Venom" comments when no one has read any Brock Venom.
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>>84274653
I read all of Brock Venom.The only time I really liked him was in his initial introduction. All the Lethal Protector stuff just oozed 90's edgy.
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>>84273946
>That was Angelo Fortuno, not Mac. But Mac was still terrible.
It was mac, pic related.

>>84274318
No
>>84274332
Yes

>>84274809
This website is for adults.

I'm starting to notice a trend here, it seems most of the Flash fans (or single Flash fan, as every time this thread pops up I see the exact same kinds of responses/arguments) are quite young and in general are into all the modern Marvel fuckery, in which case, good for you...if SOMEONE is enjoying the crap that Marvel shits out these days, I guess that's all that matters, it is entertainment after all so as long as at least one person is entertained it served it's purpose, but you still have shit taste.
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>not wanting to get facefucked by Eddie while Flash takes you from behind
You're all plebs, /co/
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>>84274588
He fucked up and let the Symbiote have too much freedom, he let a psychopath wear it and drive it crazy again so that we backtracked and undid all of the good they had done in the series
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>>84269178
>he's called Demon Carnage

We already have that in the normal Carnage book though. You need to flesh out your own OC my man.
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>>84275084
>all of the good they had done in the series
You're a true fag.
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>>84261365
Hey, I played that game
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>>84274886
Pic related, but that's definitely still Fortuno. That's before he runs away and then the symbiote abandons him in mid air.
I'm 22 and I suppose that means I'm on the younger side, but I've read my fair share of classic stories. And who said anything about current marvel being good? They're the worst they've been in a very long time. Sure I'm really enjoying space knight and carnage, but the vast majority of their comics right now are carnage.
Also, the poll is already showing that there's multiple people who like Flash, so it's not just one guy.
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>>84275313
Pretty sure he means good in the literal sense. As in the actual good he did helping random aliens. It's stated in the comic that venom was revisiting the planets he helped and messing with them.
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>>84275386
>Pic related, but that's definitely still Fortuno. That's before he runs away and then the symbiote abandons him in mid air.
Nope, it's Mac. That's from the end of the arc when Norman breaks out with all the other villains and crap and Mac is distracting him or whatever, if my memory serves me the only time Spidey fought the little brat was at the highschool

>I'm 22
Pic related
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>>84266130
4chan.
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>>84275467
I'm telling you you're wrong. I know for a fact that's Fortuno. He started attacking him at the high school, but Peter brought the fight outside. How else do you explain the panel of the symbiote abandoning him?
Gargan gets the symbiote in his room when he's about to get into a new scorpion costume. Then he joins Osborn's sinister 12 in the next issue or something.
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>>84275621
Not even that guy but you're retarded and oddly insistent about being retarded. Pete even mentions Osborn in that page. Do I have to storytime the whole issue to shut you up?
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>>84275621
>>84275636
You know what? I don't even have to. Here's the next page, that's more than enough.

And his name was Fortunato, not Fortuno. Stop getting your epic trivia from random pages posted on /co/ from time to time and try reading an actual comic sometimes.
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>>84275636
>>84275678
Alright, I'll admit I was wrong. Sorry.

And I have read the story. From the library, years ago.
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>>84262713
New Yorkers have enough superpowered natives. Let the South have a few.
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>>84269450
Yinsen wasn't American tho.
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>>84275368
>tfw you read unleashed venom/demon in the same voice as the darkness

Cash
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>>84272200
Hard to think of a single comic page that's aged as poorly as that one.

Hopefully, modern SJW stuff will seem just as stupid in 10 years.
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>>84265942
>Ross returns

Interesting
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>>84274613
I agree that Space knight hero venom is pretty boring, but I want them to go back to stuff like this. Symbiote as an alcoholism analogy was pretty neat. Bendis really screwed the pooch on the whole Klyntar thing
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>>84261365
Goddamn Agent Venom was so fucking cool looking and so well done during Remender's run

Fucking Bunn.
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Flash Venom sucks. Remender jobs so hard for his pet characters that its fucking ridiculous. And that shitty twist that the crime master was Betty's brother?

Who the fuck asked for that? Why bother resurrecting the retard who died from his gambling problems?

Also Eddie was only great in his early appearances. He started sucking later on. I'd say he started sucking after his first appearance in 300 as they started to have Spidey job like crazy for venom to take the main seat.

HELL thats why carnage was fucking created. Eddie was becoming to stale and boring as they removed him from his psycho roots.

But no, marvel had to fucking overdo it with carnage as well baka.

Symbiotes were fucking mistake. Oh wait my bad Klyntars* were a fucking mistake. Fuck Bendis.
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>>84277708
Eddie was great as an anti-hero, I don't care what anybody says.

All I want is for there to be a Venom anti-hero book with talent behind it that's primarily street level, dark and maybe a little funny, maybe have him gain some new villains of his own

Also Eddie was never as crazy or pure evil as Carnage...he started off as just a guy with a hate boner for Spider-Man, and in his mind he was always doing the "right thing", he saw Spider-Man as the badguy....Carnage on the other hand is just pure evil incarnate
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Just read it, super stoked, I hope there's a dialogue between flash and peter if he goes back to earth now that peter knows its flash wearing the suit
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>>84277384
Fucking Bunn? While not quite as good as Remender's run, Bunn was by no means bad, especially with how he brought in both the callback to the Venom clone, which became Mania, and brought in the plot point of Circle of Four which remained mostly unresolved with the other three. If anyone screwed the pooch it was Bendis who took what could've been a cool idea of Agent Venom in space and set up the pieces for that Space Knight bullshit to happen.
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>>84269101
they made the apocalypse tank american
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>>84277974
Dude read his early appearances. He was a fucking psychopath. HE went downhill when they started to make him a fucking anti hero.

Read his shit minis man. It gets progressively worse and worse. Even his creator fucking disowned him.

Him being a crazy anti venom dude trying to kill venom and depower peter was the only high point return to who he was.
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>>84278845
What's this from?
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>>84279685
The latest issue of Venom Space Knight
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I hate that Eddie killed Hybrid and Scream. Especially Scream since she's thick.

I need another artist on that Carnage book. They symbiotes look like shit. Toxin doesn't even have his original colors. Sick of red and black.

God dammit why did they take Scream from me!?
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>>84262192
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Remender's venom was fantastic. I haven't read anything about the character since that run.
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>>84270838
This is boiled down to very simplistic terms, but this is completely how I feel.

>Eddie- Anti-Venom
>Pat - Toxin

Especially these two.
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>>84279862
>I hate that Eddie killed Hybrid
That was in poor taste, yeah.
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>you haven't read Agent Venom
>you haven't read Brock Venom

It's not like anyone here collected issues of or gave a shit about Eddie or Flash before they became Venom.
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>>84278845
This is news to me holy shit. Is Space Knight good?
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>>84284407
Hold me.
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>>84265591
>the punisher
>hero
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>>84284921
There's plenty of heroes that fit that description, tagged why we love seeing him act the hero, and why he's more interesting.
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>>84261769
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>mfw Eddie is a more interesting character in Carnage than Flash is in Space Knight and Carnage sells multiple thousands of more copies
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>>84284696
it starts of kind of bland but It's looking like its really starting to pick up and be great
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>>84272130
>Ask any casual fan on the street, who is Venom's real name? They will say nothing because they don't exist.

Fixed.
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>>84285215
They actually might say Topher Grace, but then practically everyone knows what shit his Venom was and how much they want to see him done right with the typical meme reaponse of having Brock Lensar playing Eddie.
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>>84272226
>Why doesn't he just...use his super powers to beat them up.

Because shooting them is faster and can be done at a much longer range.
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>>84285281
You mean it's not edgy enough. Pic related.
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>>84272324
I think the reason he's been in so many games is they were made when Eddie was Venom, and unlike Flash Venom he doesn't use guns which would probably increase the rating more than any shit the symbiote can do on its own. So they're less inclined to include Flash. A named character using guns is different than some nameless mooks using guns.
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>>84261365
Dont you slander venom and antivenom.
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>>84285359
You don't remember what happened with Contest of Champions? Agent Venom was one of the first characters teased, but he wasn't released for months after the launch, then they made and released Brock Venom because they knew he would sell more and then released Agent Venom many months after that.
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>>84284781
>Hold me.
Not my usual thing, but this is a special kind of trauma.

::holds close and tight::

There, there. It'll be alright. We shall overcome. One day.
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>>84261769
>It came at the cost of Pat Toxin
Yeah, this, combined with the loss of Brock as Anti-Venom really makes the idea of even trying to allow myself to enjoy stories of Brock as Toxin very difficult to fathom. Worst still, I'm not normally like this; I'm pretty easygoing when it comes to enjoying and finding the positives of things like these that others tend to hate.
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>>84285699
I support this.
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>>84285616
I wish it was easier
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>>84273507
Source?
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>>84286342
Agent Venom 27.1
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>>84261365

But he's not anon and he is not Venom.

Venom needs to return the Eddie Venom is the best Venom
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>>84286532
Thanks, I don't remember this issue.
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>>84285332
At least he looks cute.
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