Bojack thread
Will season 3 have a bigger gut punch in episode 11?
Also, rate the seasons so far:
as a whole: s1 > s2
episode to episode: s2 > s1
>>84251402
sigh, most of us are looking forward to season 3. but this thread has no potential i am afraid.
>>84251402
So I've seen this show around this board now and then. I don't know shit about it, right, but I saw it on netflx the other day and gave the first episode a shot, and I don't get it. It just seems like Family Guy. Too many cutaway gags. Stoner friend cause 'lol' and it feels like one of those shows some wealthy hollywood exec could relate to more than I could. It's also super painful to the eyes, and it's not subtle at all about the horse supposed to be a pity figure or something? Didn't go back to it. What is so special about it? I don't get why people are saying 'blank is the bojack horseman of blank' or what have you as if this show is something spectacular
>>84252424
It's just a meme.
Please don't watch anymore of it.
>>84252424
Get past the first few episodes. They act as a filter to get rid of the normies.
>>84252424
>What is so special about it
There's no status quo they have to return to and this is people's first time seeing a cartoon character do anything but be happy and/or mean as a joke
There really isn't anything special about Bojack, it's a cartoon about a washed up celebrity.
It's not as if that hasn't appeared in media before, it's just that nobody who watches cartoons watches the kind of stuff where that shows up often
Bojack is an okay cartoon, definitely over hyped like Rick and Morty and Steven Universe, but that doesn't mean it's shit just because it has a rabid fanbase
>>84252424
But you have to do it everyday, that's the hard part.
>>84252424
The first two or three episodes are arguably bad. I suppose it was made that way to hook a specific crowd (as you said, Family Guy, with a bit of Two and a Half Men on the side), to then later on subvert their expectations and catch them completely off guard. I think it worked out, it gets really, really good later on, but if it wasn't for a friend pushing me to watch it I might not have done so. Critics weren't so kind on the first season either when it premiered, they likely only watched the first episode and maybe the second.
Do yourself the favour and watch the first season. Atleast half of it. The characters turn out to have a big deal of depth, with everyone being kinda a bad person without really being a bad guy. It's psychologically believable. The fun of it is realyl figuring out why Bojack is the person that he is. Season 1's episode 11 is probably one of my favourite cartoon episodes of all time.
Also, the writers took advantage of Netflix's binge watching format. There is a strong continuity that you won't find in series that just air one episode a week. Plus, you'll want to rewatch it, because a lot of touches and jokes in the packground you won't pick up until you have seen later episodes.
>the first thing Bojack said to Herb
About the visuals, yeah, I don't like the animation style either, but the art style grows on you, especially with all the visual gags they do with it later on.
Being bojack is suffering
I meanwhen he sees his mom you figured she might say something to encourage him when he was doing the moviebut know she just told him that he's broken just like the rest of his family
>>84252467
I feel like I pretty much got the whole gist from the first episode though. It felt pretentious to me, like oh, these characters all SEEM like they're a one note character, but hey look, the horse hates himself, the stoner has some kind of shady past and uses parties to cope and we're gonna waste the series expanding on this trope we explained in the first half hour. Pity them."
Again, that's just my impression. I haven't looked up anything about it. Just wondering if I'm right
>>84252517
The thing about stoner friend's shady past really is just a joke. It doesn't impact his character development. Todd seems to be one of the more genuinely likable people of the show, but generally he is just there for comedic relief and for Bojack to bounce off of.
>>84252508That felt kinda forced to me, really. People don't talk like in real life, atleast not out of the blue like that.
>>84252517
You're pretty much right
People are hyping up this show because it's about characters that have secret or notso secret parts of themselves that slowly get characterized as time goes on, but that shouldn't be the pinnacle of cartoons, that should be the standard
I like Bojack and I'll recommend it because it's enjoyable, but it's not the funniest or the deepest cartoon out there despite what some might claim
Watch it or don't watch it, it's up to you
discuss
>>84251402
>Also, rate the seasons so far:
Don't you mean sofa?
>>84252517
I almost forgot about that joke with Todd in the first season. Yeah, nah, that's not really him. Todd's just a likable goofball.
And yeah, Bojack does hate himself, but the first episode doesn't get across how or why, and how he acts according to that. It just let's him appear as a jerk, when really he is... well, an even bigger jerk who doesn't want to be a jerk at all. See this post: >>84252500
>>84252594
Yeah, nah, he did everything wrong.
>>84251402
When does that show get good?
>>84252633
Season 1 episode 4, "Zoës and Zeldas"
>>84252517
Todd's thing is less about a shady past and more about being on constant wacky adventures. He often serves as the ridiculous cartoony comedic subplot to contrast to the slightly more serious story going on in most episodes. His history with that mexican gang is dropped quickly to move on to a lot of other different things.
Bojack on the other hand consistently gets actual development and clear arcs.
>>84252675
Well, Todd has an arc in season 1. But really, that's just Bojack's arc of being a jerk who doesn't want to be alone.
>>84252553Sometimes they do when they're old and dying. Old invalid people that have estranged themselves from their families can get really cryptic.
>>84252594
Honestlyhe should have slept on the couch in the house so when whatshername came in he could have said your daughter is in my bed ready to seduce mehe would have a talk then head homeand the daughter would shows up in season 3 ready to sleep with him once again
>>84252594
Every single tiny little thing, he did them all wrong.
I want to
Lisa Hanawalt.
>tfw more horse than a man
>>84252424
Everything up to like episode 6 is shite but after that it's so good that many reviewers had to release statements about how wrong they were with their reviews because netflix shows get reviewed on the first half of the season. Slug it through until episode 6 and you won't be disappointed.
>>84251402
>YfwBojack loses everything again and thenTodd diesin episode 11 of season 3
>>84252888
>Zoes and Zeldas is bad
>Live Fast, Diane Nguyen is bad
Why do you watch this show?
Can't believe they actually got Elijah Wood.
>>84252777
Trips confirm
>>84252943
They're not bad per se. They're just not good, if I was on the fence about watching those episodes wouldn't get me to carry on.
Why does Todd have a lump on his left cheek?
I watched season 1 and 2 and I'm really not sure if I should watch the 3rd one... I can't remember much of the first 2 seasons, nothing funny, except the kind of dramatic season finals
it's a really fucking meh show
>>84253232
I agree that it isn't a terribly hillarious show. It's more about the character development, and the jokes are just kinda there to lighten the mood.
>>84252675
>>84252690
I liked how they were building up to Todd finding out Bojack fucked up his space opera opportunity, only to see that Todd wasn't mad because he expected Bojack to be a selfish douchebag and ruin it.
That somewhat got to me more.
>>84252777
>Tfw more man than a horse
>>84252594
post yfw "I'll fucking kill you"
>>84254055
>tfw likely not a good person
>>84252594
I want her back in S3, fuck him, and realise he's not the man she thinks he is
>>84254257
Nah, give Bojack a new arc in season 3.
>>84252517
>I feel like I pretty much got the whole gist from the first episode though
No, you certainly didn't get the whole gist from the first fucking episode.
>the stoner has some kind of shady past and uses parties to cope
The "shady past" thing is dropped after the whole mexican cartel gag and pretty much retconned out of canon. After that, he's a guy that was kicked off his home for being a slacker.
>>84254406
>implying it wouldn't be that she appears AS he is getting his life back together but fumbles at the last moment and gives in
Classic Bojack
>>84254642
Haha, classic Bojack!
If mr. pb cries, I riot.
I need to protect the dog's smile
>>84254916
I had to walk a friend's golden retriever a few times, and man, that animal is a perfect fit for Mr PB. Dumb as a post, but loves absolutely everything.
>>84254055
>>84255260
This is true but unfortunately Mr PB is actually a yellow labrador retriever. I was surprised when I found out.
>>84252594
Found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9P0NYdWhPg
Pretty much sums it up really
>>84252926
>Bojack is on the same bridge Secretariat was on
>Todd goes out to talk him down
>"You ready to go back?"
>"Yeah... Yeah, I think so."
>As they're climbing back over the railing, a gust of wind blows them both back and into the water
>Bojack has a trippy dream sequence similar to both the bad trip and with bits of the two months he spent in New Mexico sprinkled in
>He wakes up after being resuscitated, gasping for air
>"Wow. Who knew drowning could make you see shit."
>"Hey Todd, did you see anything?"
>He's doesn't respond
>A nurse barks out a time and covers him with a sheet
>"... Todd?"BACK IN THE NINETIES I WAS IN A VERY FAMOUS TV SHOW
>>84252594
>>84254916
>>84255260
>>84255389
>Diane fucks up by either screwing BoJack or someone else
>Throws PB into a complete rut when he discovers this
>Ends up going behind a shed and shooting himself
>His suicide letter only says one thing"I'm a bad dog."
Taking requests for webms of the show.
>mfw S3E11
I think most people watch this for the depression. If don't think this show it really funny.
Todd is awful and unbearable, and he's supposed to be the "funny" character.
The character In can't understand is Mr PB. I really don't know who he really is,or whatever is his personality. Is he a happy, carefree guy? A manipulative cunt? A mix of both?
I'm expecting a twist on how he is actually really depressed but he manage to hide it so well.
I hope they get rid of Todd, he's irrelevant and brings nothing to the story. I feel nothing for him, I can't relate or get behind the character. He's one-dimensional, only here to make a stupid sound and a transition to another scene.
>>84255422
what the hell is wrong with you
>>84255607
NO
>>84256406
>>84256418Do you want to hear the Penny one?
>>84255422
>>84255607
DELETE THIS!
>>84256664
Yes.
>>84256069
this one: https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/kell.quaddicted.com/convoked.html and the sequel https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/kell.quaddicted.com/chapters/chapters.html (if you use quake injector, make sure you start on the start map)
>>84257034
fuck that was the wrong thread
>>84256954
>Bojack is enjoying his newfound fame
>Walking down the street one day, he bumps into someone
>"Hey, watch it-"
>It's Penny
>"Oh, fuck me."
>Break
>"What I meant to say was, I'm screwed."
>Break
>"Okay, lets just take it from the top..."
>They get coffee together and she explains that she's been staying with her aunt in LA
>Explains that she moved out after the family situation became unbearable
>Her parents wouldn't stop fighting
>Dad kept asking what happened that night
>Maddy ended up as fine as a teenage alcoholic like her could have
>Pete ended up developing a nervous stutter that he constantly gets stuck on
>She says she can't take the way things are back home and doesn't want to go back
>Feeling guilty and solely responsible, he ends up extending an invitation for her to stay at his place
>She eventually ends up sleeping in his bed and with him
>She had been saving herself for him, for this moment
>During climax, he saysher mother's nameThe truth is, she doesn't have an aunt.Her family has no idea where she is.
>>84256069
Well that and I find the animal puns amusing.
>>84252594
>>84254055
>>84254055
>>84252926
Todd could definitely die.
He is not a very developed character, isn't really important and has no big relationship
>>84257199
>Gets preggies
>>84257824
>>84257199
>Charlotte!
>...whst?
>oh shit
~back in the nineties...
>>84256069
>I'm expecting a twist on how he is actually really depressed but he manage to hide it so well.
Isn't that kind of what his little speech about how he spends his whole day just waiting for Diane to come home was about?
>>84257199
I always thought he'd call her Harper as he came.
>>84258070
>>84258105
>>84258381
>Penny thinks Bojack only sees her as an analog for her own mother
>He tries to reassure her that he doesn't, although he's not entirely certain of this himself
>She can't go back to her family; they'd reject her for running away to a man they hate
>Worse yet, it turns out he was able to knock her up
>Over the next couple of weeks things start looking up
>"I've got this great place picked out."
>"It's out in Maine."
>"There's a lake, and a cozy cabin, and it's near a small-town."
>"No bright lights. No big city. Nobody. Just us."
>"Does that sound okay to you?"
>She nods, looking up at him, giving a half-hearted smile>She ends up killing herself in his bathroom>"It should have just stayed on that boat.[Harper giggling distantly]
>>84258546BACK IN THE 90s
>>84256069
>The character In can't understand is Mr PB. I really don't know who he really is,or whatever is his personality. Is he a happy, carefree guy? A manipulative cunt? A mix of both?
He is the opposide of Bojack. He is just genuinely dumb and happy with himself.
>>84256069
>>84257986
>wanting Todd to die
What is wrong with you? He is Bojack's only real friend. He is not supposed to be developed. He is something for Bojack to bounce off of.
>>84259421
Is Mr PB really dumb? I feel like all of this is a facade.
And how is Todd a friend? He did nothing to be considered a friend. He's nice with Bojack, that's it, while he's a parasite who sleep on his couch.
He's a nice and chill guy, but thats it.
I don't especially want him to die, that would be too much, but I wouldn't be very surprised if the creators make that happening
>>84259525
>Is Mr PB really dumb? I feel like all of this is a facade.
Nah, it was pretty much spelled out already. He's a Zoe. That's it. Don't look for depth where there is intended to be none.
>And how is Todd a friend?
Maybe friend is the wrong term, but he is the one to keep Bojack company. Killing him off if he wasn't important to Bojack would be pretty forced anyway. Why not just develop him rather than killing him for being underdeveloped?
>>84252517
No, you're not correct at all.
one last bump before bed
>>84258326
That, and
>Sweetie, you know I support you, whatever you want to do, but you're not gonna find what you're looking for in these awful made-up places. The universe is a cruel, uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't a search for meaning. It's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually, you'll be dead.
I'm not sure if either really signify that he's secretly depressed, more just a bit nihilistic.
>>84254055
I've been haunted by this phrase for the last week.
How can it be interpreted?
I keep saying the biggest gut punch would be Mr. Peanutbutter's suicide.
>>84252424
>it feels like one of those shows some wealthy hollywood exec could relate to more than I could.
The point is that even a 1%er can be sad, something a lot of this generation doesn't seem to get, for some reason. Money can't buy you happiness, love, or fulfillment. It can only buy you free time and cool stuff.
